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@Patrick, more ad hom abuse. Now the trolls are tagging posts that do not even reference other users! This should be removed from jail and the offender banned from marking ad hom. Otherwise others will be force to retaliate by marking all posts of trolls as as hom.

BlueSardine says

Thats because trumps law will actually be enforced...

No, it's because Trump's supporters are ignorant morons who have no grasp on reality.

Some people are just fucking stupid.

Straw Man says

Yes. For you. You see how small that piece of pie that belongs to the US? 17% fucking percent.

The U.S. is 5% of the population. And you tried to censor that response. That's an admission of guilt.

Did you ever figure out the silversmith's mark?
Presumably you have posted it elsewhere as well and I was just wondering.

jazz_music says

@curious2 I didn't say that Islam is no threat, it's not the biggest threat.

Even YOUR LINK, which cherry picks the time period 2008-2016, acknowledges this fact: "Islamist extremists killed more people overall, with a death toll of 90 people compared to 79." Muslims comprise only 1% of the population, and YOUR LINK says they killed more people than all "right wing" terrorists combined.

If you choose a more informative time scale, e.g. 20 years, the disparity grows wider.

Also, Islam says to kill or subjugate all non-Muslims, meaning 99% of the American population. The only reason they haven't done that yet is because they haven't figured out how. As WMDs proliferate, the Islamic kill rates will almost certainly increase.

You are getting played like a saxophone by a deliberate disinformation campaign specifically intended to mislead you into accepting hijrah. As with the people of Yathrib, by the time you figure out what you've let in, it will be too late. They made the mistake of accepting some of Mohamed's followers as refugees. Internal divisions increased, and within a few years they welcomed Mohamed himself. Within five years, he and his followers had murdered or enslaved everyone else in the city. Today, the city is called Medina, and it is for Muslims only. If you like multiculturalism, then demand Saudi Arabia allow non-Muslims to set up churches and flying spaghetti monster collanders and demand all countries allow people to disagree about religion and even call each other's religions false. Otherwise, you aren't really supporting liberalism, nor multiculturalism, only hijrah.

Make up a bnch of lies, attribute those lies to conservatives, attempt to pass this all off as a serious editorial.

Not sure it's possible to fail worse than you jazz music.

jazz_music says

all religions

No, that is an ignorant falsehood. Even the Old Testament, which does revere the violent conquest of "the holy land," limits that to the tiny patch now called Israel. Take the time to read the articles linked above, and notice that even YOUR OWN LINK uses a misleading headline to spin the actual numbers and mislead you. Take time to read original sources (OT, NT, Koran) before you claim to know what they're based on. Otherwise you end up as ignorant as a saxophone, and badly played.

jazz_music says

comparatively young religion

The charlatan Mohamed fabricated Islam more than 1k years ago for the express purpose of conquering and enslaving as many people as possible. It operates as designed. The Muslim conquest of India killed more than 60 million people, until the rise of the Sikh faith enabled some defense against Islamic persecution. Notice the Hindus and Sikhs had never attacked the Arabian peninsula, and have never attacked New York, but Muslims conquered India and attacked New York.

curious2 says

best doctors I have ever had are muslims.

One of the best doctors I've ever met is a smoker. That isn't an argument for smoking. He's already had cancer once, but being an oncologist he detected it early. Consider the Fort Hood Dr. jihadi who murdered 13 and injured 31, and consider the second generation (e.g. doctors' kids) are even more likely to get involved in terror. You may have enjoyed greater convenience by seeing a Muslim doctor here and shifting the bill via mandatory insurance rather than crossing the border to see a Mexican doctor at a fraction of the price, but your savings comes at a horrible cost to everyone else.

jazz_music says

our own DoD has cleared many many muslims to work

Again, consider the Ft. Hood Dr. jihadi, and other Muslims on the DoD payroll caught killing fellow Americans, and spying for Islamic groups including al Qaeda. It's funny how you suddenly agree with DoD when they say something you like. You mentioned profitably: consider that following each jihadi costs/spends more than $10k per day. Again, you're getting played like a saxophone, welcoming hijrah and the surveillance it requires.

Are these Trump "comfort food" for the conservative brain?

jazz_music says

That pretty much summarizes the conservative philosophy for both the left and the right.

jazz_music says

Now you have me preaching conversion to islam. --not too hysterical are you?

I did not accuse you of that, nor call you hysterical. You're badly misled, and singing the purported benefits of hijrah. The fact you don't even recommend Islam, nor even read it, makes your comments even more hypocritical and willfully ignorant. The effect of Islam varies with its prevalence in the population; in most countries that have Muslim majorities, most Muslims demand Sharia, which would kill you for criticizing Islam.

jazz_music says

in-network providers

Meaning you shift the cost via insurance.

jazz_music says

Do you recommend ignoring such risks?

Many have no choice. I've recommended repealing Obamneycare and the Rx requirement and applying NAFTA to the medical sector, so Mexican medical professionals could relocate here. We could have excellent Mexican doctors for a fraction of the cost of your beloved Muslim doctors. You choose to indulge and empower mandatory insurance and welcome hijrah. These are different choices.

jazz_music says

MOST TERRORISTS IN THE U.S. ARE RIGHT WING, NOT MUSLIM

Historically that has always been the case. The quintessential terrorist organization in American history is the KKK.

This also shows that the conservative right is no different from the left. Before the right had significant political power it engaged in the same bullying, unlawful, and terrorist tactics as Antifa does today. If Antifa ever gained political power, it would then promote lawfulness because it would have control of the law. Similarly, if the right loses control of the law, it would revert to lawless tactics. The tactics used depends on how much control of the government the tribe has, not on the political beliefs of the tribe.

That all said, Islam is still incompatible with western values, as is modern Christianity to a lesser degree. Medieval Christianity was every bit as incompatible with western values as modern Islam.

Dan8267 says

The tactics used depends on how much control of the government the tribe has, not on the political beliefs of the tribe.

That is an excellent point. Once Muslims gain control of government, they tend to shift from terrorism to Sharia. If, however, a government tries to remain secular despite having a large Muslim population, then vigilante Sharia patrols enforce Sharia with impunity. The experience of Bangladesh shows that it's almost impossible to enforce secular law against Sharia patrols in a country that has a Muslim majority, even in the aftermath of Islamic genocide against Hindus.

curious2 says

Dan8267 says

The tactics used depends on how much control of the government the tribe has, not on the political beliefs of the tribe.

That is an excellent point. Once Muslims gain control of government, they tend to shift from terrorism to Sharia

Of course. Muslims are also conservative. As was Stalin and Hitler. All these tribes have the same quintessential properties.

The opposite set of properties is liberalism. Essentially liberalism means you believe each person has equal legal standing and should be free to do whatever he wants that does not violate the rights of other. This is why liberalism is the only non-hypocritical political philosophy, and the only one that actually works without violence or the threat of violence. We should all be liberals regardless of what cultural preferences we have.

curious2 says

it's almost impossible to enforce secular law against Sharia patrols in a country that has a Muslim majority

Just realize that the exactly same thing would apply to Christianity if it were to return to the level of radicalization that it held for 80% of its existence. It is the strength of the faith that matters far more than the mythology.

jazz_music says

Interesting, but you have to say "probably" because it has never happened yet.

Almost certainly. The core nature of the beast is no different than the KKK.

jazz_music says

Dan8267 says

exactly same thing would apply to Christianity if it were to return to the level of radicalization that it held for 80% of its existence.

Interesting point that people forget SO MUCH so easily.

Most people don't forget that. They look at relevant time frames, e.g. the lifetimes of their families including grandchildren.

Some people allow themselves to be misled by PR driven headlines rather than reading the actual numbers underneath the headlines, and indulge their own spending preferences while ignoring the lifetimes of their grandchildren (if they have any). I hope you will find time to read what I linked above, as I read what you linked above.

Trump had it wrong. He said we'd get tired of winning. What he meant to say was that the leftists would get tired of the rest of America winning. So on a day when Trump is validated by the Supreme Court, the leftists get tired of America winning and have to start misrepresenting and blatantly making stuff up.

Personally, I haven't had near my full of win.

That TDS is ruining you lady.

jazz_music says

Fucking White Male says

Not sure it's possible to fail worse than you jazz music.

Did you have a fucking point, or are you just crushing on me?

It looks like your point is that you hate reading.

Unlike you, I don't fellate blatant falsehoods. You're losing it lady.

jazz_music's original post is correct. Hell, you can see the conservative right on PatNet illustrate this post every single day.

Fucking White Male says

Not sure it's possible to fail worse than you jazz music.

This.

jazz_music says

Feelz feelz feelz.

Condolences for the butthurt, Mrs. fuck-knuckle?

You're sadly turning into the left version of ironman.

Talking about the "choices" you make in a busted system is like talking about which glory hole you stuck your wang through. You're getting fucked no matter what, and you'll never really know by who.

curious2 says

They look at relevant time frames, e.g. the lifetimes of their families including grandchildren.

This is dangerous and foolish thinking. Political changes can happen very rapidly. Just look at how quickly the Nazis rose to power or countless other examples of societies losing their freedoms within a decade. Tyranny can arise very quickly once a power grab reaches a critical mass. See Naomi Wolf: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps.

jazz_music says

Mmm, and this.

My sentiments exactly.

jazz_music says

MOST TERRORISTS IN THE U.S. ARE RIGHT WING, NOT MUSLIM

Holy shit! This line is straight out of DHS indoctrination material from a few years back. I can't believe you're parroting this tripe. Next you'll tell us Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Dan8267 says

Tyranny can arise very quickly once a power grab reaches a critical mass. See Naomi Wolf: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps.

I agree, and have read at length about how Weimar fell to the Nazis, and I respect Naomi Wolf though I haven't read all of her work. It's part of why I found the 2016 Democratic nominee's plans so alarming: although she acknowledged that lethal terrorism was "clearly rooted in Islamic thinking," she used that fact as an argument to empower her Saudi clients and increase mass surveillance on behalf of her corporate clients. It's funny how AntiFa and other anti-Trumpers have to draw their own swastikas and phone in phony threats in order to make the President look like a Nazi, which he isn't. The Muslim-Nazi similarities are much stronger in both ideology and violent tactics. The Nazis took power when they became more than 20% of the population, and I've written previously (and cited a short paper online at Fourmilab.ch) documenting that Islam is bimodal: most countries that have allowed themselves to become more than 20% Muslim are more than 90% Muslim. Nobody has ever combined a free society, modern technology, and a 20% Muslim population. Even France, with only 10% Muslims, is already sacrificing liberty for "temporary" (soon to be permanent) emergency measures to curtail terrorism; they'll exceed 20% Muslim within a generation, and after that the Muslim police and vigilante Sharia patrols will probably use the warrantless searches and house arrests to identify and exterminate blasphemers.

jazz_music says

USA should not become central to all the problems in the world.

Taxpayers can't afford it as much as bankers may love it.

I like the idea, but how does that relate to your post?

jazz_music says

I took your post to reference the problems in Oceania with islam and the various countries tactics to fight the problems that come as the cultures vy for power.

Ahh, no. That's a classic line of propaganda from the government of 1984. I was equating it to your classic line of government propaganda in your threads title.

Judaism only seeks the land of Israel to be dominated by Jews (and even then not necessarily cleansed of non-Jews).
Christianity does not believe the End Times depends on Christianity's dominance, indeed Revelations states that there will either be non-Christians or former Christians during the Battle of Megiddo in the Apocalypse.
Buddhism is primarily centered on individual enlightenment.
Islam believes the End of the World bringing Peace and Happiness can ONLY happen when the entire world is brought into the House of Peace, aka Islam.

Only one of the 4 major religions depend on a total dominance across the entire world to ring in Golden Age.

jazz_music says

7: Sex is awful and filthy, and you should save it for someone you love.

Dude,the vast majority of Baptists, Evangelicals,etc. don't even believe this, both in doctrine and practice.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if as many or more college graduates believe that heterosexual sex is rape than very religious Christians believe sex is bad.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

,the vast majority of Baptists, Evangelicals,etc. don't even believe this, both in doctrine and practice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_ball

http://www.newsweek.com/womens-rights-birth-control-abortion-missouri-discrimination-628538

jazz_music says

curious2 says

The fact you don't even recommend Islam, nor even read it

Far from established fact, more at wild assertion.

jazz_music says

I didn't say that Islam is no threat, it's not the biggest threat. The Islamic threat is....

So, you call it a threat.

jazz_music says

curious2 says

One of the best doctors I've ever met is a smoker.

Now you have me preaching conversion to islam. --not too hysterical are you?

Also, you deny preaching conversion to it.

Therefore, you don't recommend it. Now you call that observation a "wild assertion", without linking any evidence to show it's false. I infer something has interfered with your short term memory, hmm, I wonder what could that be, someone who likes jazz music and gardening, maybe smoking in the evening, losing short term memory, hmmm...

Without research, I believe new immigrants have to have two sponsors. If they take welfare or assistance the money will come out from the sponsor.

That's fair.

4k a month to pay for section 8 in san francisco, that's moronic.

In a capitalistic society. It will create winners and losers and it's inevitable a large chunk have no chance to compete and play the government assistance game. It's just basic math and psychology, why work when you can get away with not working.

Not a big fan of companies with tremendous capex needs. Lp for a business is about the worst way to acquire capital, so I never understood the draw of being in one long term.

If you are a legit business, why would that business make any joe and Sam a partner?

You have to catch the cycle.

OK, based on this picture some potential guesses at the makers mark:
T Ault
J Ault
F Ault

I'm not sure if the A is really an A or maybe a Jl, or something???

Call the NJREC 609-292-8300. Let the commission know what he did to you and also ask if he disclosed any prior criminal or licensure activity. Make sure to bring up his previous activities and firing. Also ask them about their new legislation about sexual offenders. Ask for the main regulatory officer and tell them if no immediate action is taken you are calling NBC10 or Fox 29 and putting them all on blast.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Iosef V HydroCabron says

If realtors were clearly identifiable - say, by being on fire and writhing on the ground - the children would be safe.

Or nailed to a cross butt forward and set on fire. They could warn children and provide a wholesome outlet for police who may otherwise prey on old people and small children.

bwahahaha

He's been hammering this line of propaganda for a long time now. I don't know if it was a grand plan, but it sure has had a big effect.

Actually this only proves you didn't read that book. Nice graphic though! Might wanna brush up on your classics, and then you'd know that in the novel, the press/news/television was entirely state owned. There were no government officials calling it "fake news," since they were already dictating it to the station! So actually you have this exactly wrong. Trump is more like the protagonist in "1984" who knows it's all fake news and wants to wreck the ministry of truth.

Another galactic fail. You should stick to housing and stock picks. You're good at those.

Lol @ "it's extremely necessary".

Only to you Squealer