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Talking about the "choices" you make in a busted system is like talking about which glory hole you stuck your wang through. You're getting fucked no matter what, and you'll never really know by who.

curious2 says

They look at relevant time frames, e.g. the lifetimes of their families including grandchildren.

This is dangerous and foolish thinking. Political changes can happen very rapidly. Just look at how quickly the Nazis rose to power or countless other examples of societies losing their freedoms within a decade. Tyranny can arise very quickly once a power grab reaches a critical mass. See Naomi Wolf: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps.

jazz_music says

Mmm, and this.

My sentiments exactly.

jazz_music says

MOST TERRORISTS IN THE U.S. ARE RIGHT WING, NOT MUSLIM

Holy shit! This line is straight out of DHS indoctrination material from a few years back. I can't believe you're parroting this tripe. Next you'll tell us Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Dan8267 says

Tyranny can arise very quickly once a power grab reaches a critical mass. See Naomi Wolf: Fascist America, in 10 easy steps.

I agree, and have read at length about how Weimar fell to the Nazis, and I respect Naomi Wolf though I haven't read all of her work. It's part of why I found the 2016 Democratic nominee's plans so alarming: although she acknowledged that lethal terrorism was "clearly rooted in Islamic thinking," she used that fact as an argument to empower her Saudi clients and increase mass surveillance on behalf of her corporate clients. It's funny how AntiFa and other anti-Trumpers have to draw their own swastikas and phone in phony threats in order to make the President look like a Nazi, which he isn't. The Muslim-Nazi similarities are much stronger in both ideology and violent tactics. The Nazis took power when they became more than 20% of the population, and I've written previously (and cited a short paper online at Fourmilab.ch) documenting that Islam is bimodal: most countries that have allowed themselves to become more than 20% Muslim are more than 90% Muslim. Nobody has ever combined a free society, modern technology, and a 20% Muslim population. Even France, with only 10% Muslims, is already sacrificing liberty for "temporary" (soon to be permanent) emergency measures to curtail terrorism; they'll exceed 20% Muslim within a generation, and after that the Muslim police and vigilante Sharia patrols will probably use the warrantless searches and house arrests to identify and exterminate blasphemers.

jazz_music says

USA should not become central to all the problems in the world.

Taxpayers can't afford it as much as bankers may love it.

I like the idea, but how does that relate to your post?

jazz_music says

I took your post to reference the problems in Oceania with islam and the various countries tactics to fight the problems that come as the cultures vy for power.

Ahh, no. That's a classic line of propaganda from the government of 1984. I was equating it to your classic line of government propaganda in your threads title.

Judaism only seeks the land of Israel to be dominated by Jews (and even then not necessarily cleansed of non-Jews).
Christianity does not believe the End Times depends on Christianity's dominance, indeed Revelations states that there will either be non-Christians or former Christians during the Battle of Megiddo in the Apocalypse.
Buddhism is primarily centered on individual enlightenment.
Islam believes the End of the World bringing Peace and Happiness can ONLY happen when the entire world is brought into the House of Peace, aka Islam.

Only one of the 4 major religions depend on a total dominance across the entire world to ring in Golden Age.

jazz_music says

7: Sex is awful and filthy, and you should save it for someone you love.

Dude,the vast majority of Baptists, Evangelicals,etc. don't even believe this, both in doctrine and practice.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if as many or more college graduates believe that heterosexual sex is rape than very religious Christians believe sex is bad.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

,the vast majority of Baptists, Evangelicals,etc. don't even believe this, both in doctrine and practice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_ball

http://www.newsweek.com/womens-rights-birth-control-abortion-missouri-discrimination-628538

jazz_music says

curious2 says

The fact you don't even recommend Islam, nor even read it

Far from established fact, more at wild assertion.

jazz_music says

I didn't say that Islam is no threat, it's not the biggest threat. The Islamic threat is....

So, you call it a threat.

jazz_music says

curious2 says

One of the best doctors I've ever met is a smoker.

Now you have me preaching conversion to islam. --not too hysterical are you?

Also, you deny preaching conversion to it.

Therefore, you don't recommend it. Now you call that observation a "wild assertion", without linking any evidence to show it's false. I infer something has interfered with your short term memory, hmm, I wonder what could that be, someone who likes jazz music and gardening, maybe smoking in the evening, losing short term memory, hmmm...

Without research, I believe new immigrants have to have two sponsors. If they take welfare or assistance the money will come out from the sponsor.

That's fair.

4k a month to pay for section 8 in san francisco, that's moronic.

In a capitalistic society. It will create winners and losers and it's inevitable a large chunk have no chance to compete and play the government assistance game. It's just basic math and psychology, why work when you can get away with not working.

Not a big fan of companies with tremendous capex needs. Lp for a business is about the worst way to acquire capital, so I never understood the draw of being in one long term.

If you are a legit business, why would that business make any joe and Sam a partner?

You have to catch the cycle.

OK, based on this picture some potential guesses at the makers mark:
T Ault
J Ault
F Ault

I'm not sure if the A is really an A or maybe a Jl, or something???

Call the NJREC 609-292-8300. Let the commission know what he did to you and also ask if he disclosed any prior criminal or licensure activity. Make sure to bring up his previous activities and firing. Also ask them about their new legislation about sexual offenders. Ask for the main regulatory officer and tell them if no immediate action is taken you are calling NBC10 or Fox 29 and putting them all on blast.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Iosef V HydroCabron says

If realtors were clearly identifiable - say, by being on fire and writhing on the ground - the children would be safe.

Or nailed to a cross butt forward and set on fire. They could warn children and provide a wholesome outlet for police who may otherwise prey on old people and small children.

bwahahaha

He's been hammering this line of propaganda for a long time now. I don't know if it was a grand plan, but it sure has had a big effect.

Actually this only proves you didn't read that book. Nice graphic though! Might wanna brush up on your classics, and then you'd know that in the novel, the press/news/television was entirely state owned. There were no government officials calling it "fake news," since they were already dictating it to the station! So actually you have this exactly wrong. Trump is more like the protagonist in "1984" who knows it's all fake news and wants to wreck the ministry of truth.

Another galactic fail. You should stick to housing and stock picks. You're good at those.

Lol @ "it's extremely necessary".

Only to you Squealer

Megan's law should apply to realtors clearly

Press has been lying so Trump is right. This is truth, not Orwellian

FortWayne says

Press has been lying so Trump is right.

And so have the Republicans & their media.
Iraq has WMD.
Every time a Rep/Con says liar,they must be looking into a mirror?
What happened to Rep/Con morals?

Fake news (=propaganda) has been the domain of right wing media for 100s of years in the US, and especially rampantly so from 1980 onward, with cable television, Fox Broadcasting and right -wing talk shows on AM radio. Fake News was perpetrated upon any Democratic Party candidate, president, representative and voter, along with loud fake complaints about the "liberal media".

This was standard operating procedure for so many years, and it was very effective. It was so effective that true progressive Democrats were all but silenced, and dared not speak their values. And the corporate-and-security War Democrats all went over too the other side, and started advocating war and "security" and tax cuts, to compete with the right. This started with BIll Clinton(*). This even continued after the 2008 Obama victory.

Then, however, in 2015, something unprecedented happened: The left wing started fighting back, including pointing out all the fake news created by Breitbart, Fox and so on. This pushback through the mainstream media was only allowed to happen because the right-wing establishment (=the wealthy) were losing control of their party and was at risk of getting Donald Trump as their candidate. But, the Trump grassroots wing then threw the fake news accusation back at their own establishment-wing rulers and the left wing.

Then the bluecollar section of the right wing (and their exploiters, like Breitbart), the unchallenged champions of fake news for so many years, starting accusing the left wing of fake news. And the accusation stuck, because of the Russia hacking/election hysteria. And some of the accusation were even true! Amazing.

(*) Have you ever wondered why Republicans were so rabid about Bill Clinton? Well, it was because Bill Clinton outdid the right wing in pandering to the wealthy! The Republicans suddenly had no reason to exist, because the wealthy could get what they wanted straight from the Democratic Party. This in effect took jobs and monetary contributions away from the Republican Party, which made the RP extremely irate.

Did the government try to take over the press in 1984, or was it already a done deal?

If Trump does control the press, than you can make this point. Until then, you just sound like a lefty alarmist who's one beer away from mowing down a group of baseball-playing senators.

How in the fuck did this become about Amazon and collecting sales taxes? I know they collect sales taxes on the orders I make. How does that have anything to do at all with the topic?

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

http://www.newson6.com/story/25325012/grove-realtor-charged-with-child-molestation

GROVE, Oklahoma - A mother of a Grove 17 year old said Smith took her son to work at the farm and tried to get him to perform sexual acts, but he refused. She said many Grove boys work at the farm, and she believes there are more victims.

OMG, my parents said my childhood dog went to a farm in Oklahoma. What has he done to Sparky?

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Or nailed to a cross butt forward and set on fire. They could warn children and provide a wholesome outlet for police who may otherwise prey on old people and small children.

Realtors, bankers, attorneys, Neo-Nazi Cannibals, Zyklon B Chemist, Pedophiles, Serial Killers, Rachel Maddow; all entities at around the same level of trustworthiness.

So you started off with the argument: "Donald Trump is controlling the media exactly like 1984 omg omg!"
Then when that argument got wtfpwned, you changed the subject multiple times and demanded answers to questions that were completely off topic.
Interspersed, of course, were your trademark comments calling all opponents idiots and lamenting the end of western civilization.

Sorry, but nobody wants to play your game when you change the rules like a bitch every time you are losing.

At some point in my life it dawned on me that nobody ever talked about what the conservatives wanted to conserve. After some further investigation I concluded:
Conservatives want to conserve the wealth of the wealthy and the poverty of the poor.

That's why they call themselves conservatives.

You will find no stronger conservationists than hunters and fisherman. I would guess 95%+ Republicans.

jazz_music says

WHY DON'T CONSERVATIVES WANT TO CONSERVE THE PLANET?

Because it's public property, not private property.

Pass a law stating that every acre of land lost to sea-level rising is replaced by confiscating an acre of land from the richest land owners, and then conservatives will care about climate change.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Send him to Hell. It awaits all REALTORs!

And priests and cardinals, apparently. BTW, the Realtor(TM) is clearly an amateur at this racket. A real pro would have joined the priesthood. Customers pay cash in advance and offer up their own children for molestation, then try to collect imaginary suites on a cloud after they're dead.

curious2 says

And priests and cardinals, apparently. BTW, the Realtor(TM) is clearly an amateur at this racket. A real pro would have joined the priesthood. Customers pay cash in advance and offer up their own children for molestation, then try to collect imaginary suites on a cloud after they're dead.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/28/asia/cardinal-pell-australia/index.html
Cardinal George Pell, one of the most senior members of the Catholic Church, has been charged with multiple historical sexual assault offenses in his home country of Australia, police said Thursday.

Strategist says

curious2 says

And priests and cardinals, apparently. BTW, the Realtor(TM) is clearly an amateur at this racket. A real pro would have joined the priesthood. Customers pay cash in advance and offer up their own children for molestation, then try to collect imaginary suites on a cloud after they're dead.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/28/asia/cardinal-pell-australia/index.html

Cardinal George Pell, one of the most senior members of the Catholic Church, has been charged with multiple historical sexual assault offenses in his home country of Australia, police said Thursday.

No religious leader is ever capable of molesting anyone. How can a man of God ever do such a thing. It's the fucking liberals who spread such horrible rumors.

Poe's Law

Strategist says

No religious leader is ever capable of molesting anyone. How can a man of God ever do such a thing

Well then there was a certain Prophet of a certain religion..

Fucking White Male says

You will find no stronger conservationists than hunters and fisherman. I would guess 95%+ Republicans.

This.

Yeah this thread is just more Me=good, you=bad nonsense.

Ex: Why don't democrats care about murder? Why don't democrats care about rape culture?
Why don't democrats care about poor people? Why don't democrats care about our environment? Why don't democrats care about war?

See that?! Just like chutes and ladders, anyone w a 6 year old intellect can play this game.