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Sniper says

He doesn't, he's afraid of those scary "assault weapons of war".

Well the fact that he isn't talking about his gear and setup, or even the caliber he's shooting with, pretty much tells me that there might be some fibbing going on here.

Sniper says

Exactly.... sending a big wad of birdshot down range to break a clay pigeon is simple in comparison.

I've done rounds where I hit 24 out of 25 or 25 out of 25 without breaking a sweat. I've also seen 10 year olds easily score 20 out of 25 hits.

The amount of people I know personally who can hit an 8 inch steel plate consistently at 1000 yards with a 308 bullet... maybe 1-2 individuals? Myself not included. It's an extremely difficult shot, and given the trajectory characteristics of the 308 round, takes some luck. I've done it before, 2 out of 10 shots.

Goran_K says

Sniper says

He doesn't, he's afraid of those scary "assault weapons of war".

Well the fact that he isn't talking about his gear and setup, or even the caliber he's shooting with, pretty much tells me that there might be some fibbing going on here.

What’s the fib?

Why on Earth would I lie about it?

Gear i was wearing sweatpants and a hoodie. Setup was three different 12 gauge shotguns, a large box of clays, a launcher and a case of shells. Somebody forgot to get any 16 gauge shells so my Ithaca stayed cold. Is it fair to assume that you project that others are fibbing, because you assume that others are dishonest, because you your self are less than honest?

I have nothing to gain by coming on Patnet and telling lies

errc says

Goran_K says

Sniper says

He doesn't, he's afraid of those scary "assault weapons of war".

Well the fact that he isn't talking about his gear and setup, or even the caliber he's shooting with, pretty much tells me that there might be some fibbing going on here.

What’s the fib?

Why on Earth would I lie about it?

Gear i was wearing sweatpants and a hoodie. Setup was three different 12 gauge shotguns, a large box of clays, a launcher and a case of shells. Somebody forgot to get any 16 gauge shells so my Ithaca stayed cold. Is it fair to assume that you project that others are fibbing, because you assume that others are dishonest, because you your self are less than honest?

I have nothing to gain by coming on Patnet and telling lies

You said long distance shooting was too easy for you. What was your setup for long range shooting? What distances were you hitting? Got any screen grabs of your targets?

Goran_K says

errc says

Goran_K says

Sniper says

He doesn't, he's afraid of those scary "assault weapons of war".

Well the fact that he isn't talking about his gear and setup, or even the caliber he's shooting with, pretty much tells me that there might be some fibbing going on here.

What’s the fib?

Why on Earth would I lie about it?

Gear i was wearing sweatpants and a hoodie. Setup was three different 12 gauge shotguns, a large box of clays, a launcher and a case of shells. Somebody forgot to get any 16 gauge shells so my Ithaca stayed cold. Is it fair to assume that you project that others are fibbing, because you assume that others are dishonest, because you your self are less than honest?

I have not...

There you go lying again. I said i prefer a moving target to a stationary one. Why is it so hard for you to be honest?

Do you feel that falsely accusing others of lying is civil?

Dude, you said:

errc says

Apparently hitting a stationary target is hard for some while I guess it comes naturally to many others.

So that's why I'm asking you about your experience with long range target shooting. What was your setup for long range shooting? What distances were you hitting? Got any screen grabs of your targets? If what you said was untrue (a lie), then just admit it. I won't think any less of you for admitting it.

Point out where you are accusing me of lying

errc says

Point out where you are accusing me of lying

I don't think you've ever shot long range targets with any consistency and are just BS'ing.

Cut it out with the personal insults.

errc says

this comment has been jailed for incivility

Such uncivil behavior. Tisk tisk.

Goran_K says

Cut it out with the personal insults.

So you call me a liar, that’s not a personal attack, and not uncivil, even though I’ve never lied on Patnet

I return in kind and correctly label you a liar, and my comment gets put in uncivil jail.

@Patrick you can’t make this shit up.

Apparently hitting a stationary target is hard for some while I guess it comes naturally to many others. I prefer the challenge of a moving target



Clays. A small pile of shotguns, a case of clays and shells beside the launcher


Not much anymore. There’s no challenge



What’s the fib?

Why on Earth would I lie about it?

Gear i was wearing sweatpants and a hoodie. Setup was three different 12 gauge shotguns, a large box of clays, a launcher and a case of shells. Somebody forgot to get any 16 gauge shells so my Ithaca stayed cold. Is it fair to assume that you project that others are fibbing, because you assume that others are dishonest, because you your self are less than honest?

I have nothing to gain by coming on Patnet and telling lies


There you go lying again. I said i prefer a moving target to a stationary one. Why is it so hard for you to be honest?

Do you feel that falsely accusing others of lying is civil?


Point out where you are accusing me of lying


So because you are a serial liar, you assume others regularly lie as well? Pathetic



So you call me a liar, that’s not a personal attack, and not uncivil, even though I’ve never lied on Patnet

I return in kind and correctly label you a liar, and my comment gets put in uncivil jail.

@Patrick you can’t make this shit up.


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There’s my comments in the thread. No lies

Why do you guys feel the need to lie so frequently?

errc says

So you call me a liar, that’s not a personal attack, and not uncivil, even though I’ve never lied on Patnet

I return in kind and correctly label you a liar, and my comment gets put in uncivil jail.

@Patrick you can’t make this shit up.

I didn't call you a "serial liar", and say you "regularly lie", but I said "if what you said is untrue", just admit it. I still highly doubt that you have ever engaged in long range shooting and are simply in here to troll.

Seeing as we are a dozen posts in, and you still have yet to explain your long range setup, I'm guessing I'm correct. Of course you could prove me wrong. What was your setup for long range shooting? What distances were you hitting? Got any screen grabs of your targets?

HEYYOU says

At random,when the trigger finger starts to move there could a blast of mortar,artillery,missile explosions.
A loud high pitched shrill could be added for variety.

Have you been to a range before? There are literally dozens of loud noises going off mere feet from you as you shoot.

Goran_K says

errc says

So you call me a liar, that’s not a personal attack, and not uncivil, even though I’ve never lied on Patnet

I return in kind and correctly label you a liar, and my comment gets put in uncivil jail.

@Patrick you can’t make this shit up.

I didn't call you a "serial liar", and say you "regularly lie", but I said "if what you said is untrue", just admit it. I still highly doubt that you have ever engaged in long range shooting and are simply in here to troll.

Seeing as we are a dozen posts in, and you still have yet to explain your long range setup, I'm guessing I'm correct. Of course you could prove me wrong. What was your setup for long range shooting? What distances were you hitting? Got any screen grabs of your targets?

You suggested i was fibbing which is the same as calling me a liar.

You keep asking me the same questions I’ve already answered.

What do you shoot? What's your setup?

Clays. A small pile of shotguns, a case of clays and shells beside the launcher.

How many more times are you going to keep asking me the same question that I’ve already answered?

Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem, or maybe you’re so dishonest that you are misrepresenting what I’m saying, hard to tell at this point.

Go back and read all my comments and replies and then get someone to help you translate English to whichever language you speak. I’m not sure how I can be any clearer or honest here.

Why do you feel the need to lie and misrepresent what I’m saying here

You shoot long range with a shotgun?

Goran_K says

You shoot long range with a shotgun?

When did I ever say that?

errc says

When did I ever say that?

Okay, so you have never done serious target shooting, don't have a long range setup, and don't know if it's easy or not? Cool. Thanks for confirming.

Goran_K says

errc says

When did I ever say that?

Okay, so you have never done serious target shooting, don't have a long range setup, and don't know if it's easy or not? Cool. Thanks for confirming.

When did i ever say that? Looks like you’re lying again, not very civil behavior for a moderator

Goran_K says

Seeing as we are a dozen posts in, and you still have yet to explain your long range setup, I'm guessing I'm correct

wtf--he said he prefers hitting moving targets. Why would he have a setup for a stationary target??

NRA says having more guns lying around will reduce the number of people using them to shoot other people.

So is the best way to avoid nuclear war is for more countries to have nuclear weapons?

Doesn't more guns correlate to more gun violence? America sure has a lot of guns and a lot of shootings.

Every day? Wow!
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/03/us/how-often-do-mass-shootings-occur-on-average-every-day-records-show.html
Definitions matter, this article says they are getting more deadly.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/04/mass-shootings-more-deadly-frequent-research-215678

anon_8f378 says

Goran_K says

Seeing as we are a dozen posts in, and you still have yet to explain your long range setup, I'm guessing I'm correct

wtf--he said he prefers hitting moving targets. Why would he have a setup for a stationary target??

Who said his setup can't be long-range and moving AT THE SAME TIME?

KimJongUn says

Who said his setup can't be long-range and moving AT THE SAME TIME?

I think most people already know he doesn't or never did have a long range setup. So him saying "it's easy" is an inexperienced opinion.

Exactly. It's like if someone came onto patNet and said "I did a 1 minute 15 second" lap at Laguna Seca in a Porsche 911."

Then some guy, let's call him "Errrg" comes along and says, "Apparently running a sub 1.5 minute lap at Laguna Seca is hard for some while I guess it comes naturally to others."

You would then naturally think, "Wow this guy must know how to drive, because that's a pretty good time for even pro drivers, and he must have done this many times."

But if their response is, "Well, I've been to the Go Kart track once or twice and beat a few kids in some races", you would then question that person's authenticity.