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WHITE TERROR: bombings in Austin, Texas


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2018 Mar 21, 9:30am   26,202 views  102 comments

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I was wondering why the right-wing of US politics (and patnet) was so quiet about the Austin bomber. Then I realized why: They had a hunch, and correctly so, that the bomber was a white guy. Hence, they did not do the usual thing and demand that the bombings be declared as TERRORISM.

I think it is time to resurrect an old term that originated during the French Revolution, and has since been reused several times through the centuries:

WHITE TERROR

So from now one, if there is an act that could be viewed as possible terrorism, the public should always ask: Is it terrorism? Is it WHITE TERROR? Then the public should relentlessly hound rightist politicians and blog jockeys why why WHY have they not denounced the violence as a cowardly act of terrorism. That would only be fair, given that the rightists always want to brand violence by Muslim or brown people as terrorism, while ignoring the same acts if perpetrated by a white person.

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47   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 21, 2:31pm  

If this is the deceased suspect, it's a refutation of the Media/DNC (but I repeat myself) line about it being "White Terror"

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/reddit-user-claims-austin-bomber-compares-zodiac-article-1.3886094
48   MrMagic   2018 Mar 21, 2:33pm  

HappyGilmore says
deepcgi says
Ah...sarcasm. I think you’ll find that bombs are already illegal. Apparently didn’t matter did it?


Again--so the solution is to get rid of all laws then?

Last I checked, people are still getting raped, so rape laws don't matter


Please point out here who said get rid of all laws? Please link it.

What's been pointed out with the delusional Libbies is that laws already exist on the books that make these acts illegal, but the Libbies think adding NEW laws will stop future attacks.
49   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 21, 2:34pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
If this is the deceased suspect, it's a refutation of the Media/DNC (but I repeat myself) line about it being "White Terror"


Can you provide a DNC or media source claiming it was white terror?
50   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 21, 2:35pm  

HappyGilmore says
Pretty sure most here would assume it was Islamic terrorism if he was Muslim.


If he yelled "Alahu Ahkbar" before he did it, the muslim terror would be a reasonable guess.

If there were a string and pattern of christians terrorizing the country using bombs like this, then assuming christian terror may be valid.

In this situation, there is no association between his christian family, and his actions. Unless they find a manifesto where he says something to that nature than calling it WHITE or CHRISTIAN terror is pure bigotry. Its a deplorable move... but go ahead and try to make your bigoted point if ya like.
51   MrMagic   2018 Mar 21, 2:36pm  

HappyGilmore says
No, it's just a chance to, once again, show the hypocrisy of the Trump supporters.


What hypocrisy would that be?
52   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 21, 2:37pm  

Sniper says
What's been pointed out with the delusional Libbies is that laws already exist on the books that make these acts illegal, but the Libbies think adding NEW laws will stop future attacks.


Yeah i noticed his bait and switch too. Very weak, illogical argument
53   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 21, 2:38pm  

CBOEtrader says

In this situation, there is no association between his christian family, and his actions. Unless they find a manifesto where he says something to that nature than calling it WHITE or CHRISTIAN terror is pure bigotry. Its a deplorable move... but go ahead and try to make your bigoted point if ya like.


No, my point is we should all be non-bigoted and not assume anything.

Just fyi:

http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/

"Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11"
54   RWSGFY   2018 Mar 21, 2:40pm  

HappyGilmore says
"Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11"


Convenient. Why 9/11 is excluded? Because it tips the scale in unwanted direction?
55   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 21, 2:42pm  

HappyGilmore says
No, it's just a chance to, once again, show the hypocrisy of the Trump supporters.


So you are being hypocritical with the intent to show that someone else is hypocritical. FACEPALM

The left is today so lost in their foolish righteousness that they justify obvious deplorable behavior. Its ok to be racist against whites, because some white guy somewhere behaved racist once.

This is the logic that leads to death camps. Please stop the righteous racism before things get worse.
56   MrMagic   2018 Mar 21, 2:47pm  

HappyGilmore says
Just fyi:

http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/

"Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11"


Wow, just wow...

..."In their June study, the foundation decided to examine groups “engaged in violent extremist activity” and found that white extremists were by far the most dangerous. They pointed to the recent Emanuel AME Church shooting in Charleston, S.C., and the 2012 attack on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, as well as many lesser-known attacks on Jewish institutions and on police. They found that 48 people were killed by white terrorists, while 26 were killed by radical Islamists, since Sept. 11.

This is what is being used to support a narrative? Unbelievable

Hell, 48 get killed in a month in Chicago.
57   mell   2018 Mar 21, 2:48pm  

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
HappyGilmore says
"Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11"


Convenient. Why 9/11 is excluded? Because it tips the scale in unwanted direction?


Those studies have been debunked many times cause they group everything Caucasian without motive under white extremism. The real numbers are the polar opposite to what they claim.
58   Patrick   2018 Mar 21, 2:50pm  

HappyGilmore says
"Study Says White Extremists Have Killed More Americans in the U.S. Than Jihadists Since 9/11"


This is a very weak argument as well, since whites outnumber Muslims in America by something like 40 to 1.

The fact that Muslim terrorist attacks are similarly frequent means that Muslims are attacking innocent Americans at about 40 times the reverse rate.
59   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 21, 2:50pm  

Sniper says
..."In their June study, the foundation decided to examine groups “engaged in violent extremist activity” and found that white extremists were by far the most dangerous. They pointed to the recent Emanuel AME Church shooting in Charleston, S.C., and the 2012 attack on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, as well as many lesser-known attacks on Jewish institutions and on police. They found that 48 people were killed by white terrorists, while 26 were killed by radical Islamists, since Sept. 11.


Debunk this very quickly:

Whites are more than 70% of the US Population.
Muslims are 1% of the US Population.

Therefore, White Supremacists would have to kill hundreds of people each year to merely EQUAL the Islamic Domestic Fatalities in the USA.
60   Patrick   2018 Mar 21, 2:51pm  

CBOEtrader says
righteous racism


Good description.
61   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 21, 2:51pm  

mell says
Those studies have been debunked many times cause they group everything Caucasian without motive under white extremism. The real numbers are the polar opposite to what they claim.


Exactly. And the opposite, like the DC Sniper, isn't considered an Islamic Attack, even though the notebook is filled with Quranic Quotes and he asks Allah to help him kill.

And I think one of the US Base attacks, though clearly Islamic, isn't counted as a Terror Attack but as "Mental Illness" (as is Mohammed Allen or whatever the DC Sniper was called).

While the guy who hated the IRS and crashed a plane into it, is counted as White Supremacist Terror, even though the guy wasn't at all racist and simply hated the IRS. A terrorist maybe, but not a White Surpemacist one.
62   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 21, 3:08pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
Sniper says
..."In their June study, the foundation decided to examine groups “engaged in violent extremist activity” and found that white extremists were by far the most dangerous. They pointed to the recent Emanuel AME Church shooting in Charleston, S.C., and the 2012 attack on a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, as well as many lesser-known attacks on Jewish institutions and on police. They found that 48 people were killed by white terrorists, while 26 were killed by radical Islamists, since Sept. 11.


Debunk this very quickly:

Whites are more than 70% of the US Population.
Muslims are 1% of the US Population.

Therefore, White Supremacists would have to kill hundreds of people each year to merely EQUAL the Islamic Domestic Fatalities in the USA.


That doesnt even count cherrypicking dates. "Since 911..." You mean when terrorists killed 3000 americans? OK, so since then they have to manipulate data to suggest that white extremists have killed 48 people. How does anyone not see the foolishness of this logic?

Sure lets just leave out the event that killed 60 times the number of people that white extremists supposedly have killed in the last 17 years. Seems totally reasonable. DOUBLE FACEPALM
63   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 21, 3:11pm  

TwoScoopsPlissken says
A terrorist maybe, but not a White Surpemacist one.


Yeah if you go into the details of the data, it is all garbage. Total idiocy on a platter only accepted by those affected by the worst confirmation bias.
64   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 21, 4:35pm  

Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Convenient. Why 9/11 is excluded? Because it tips the scale in unwanted direction?


Because that's when they chose to start the study?

CBOEtrader says
So you are being hypocritical with the intent to show that someone else is hypocritical. FACEPALM


Yes, it's a common technique to help others see their own faults. People see it immediately in others, but are painfully blind and unable to see it in themselves.
65   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 21, 4:36pm  

Still waiting for Two Scoops source on DNC or media calling him a White Terrorist.

Coming soon?
66   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 21, 4:38pm  

Sniper says
What hypocrisy would that be?


There are so many to choose from. In this case, Trump supporters are all "Don't jump to any conclusions, let's wait and see the motive"
67   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 21, 4:39pm  

CBOEtrader says
Sniper says
What's been pointed out with the delusional Libbies is that laws already exist on the books that make these acts illegal, but the Libbies think adding NEW laws will stop future attacks.


Yeah i noticed his bait and switch too. Very weak, illogical argument


lol--Is someone going to tell me why we have any laws on the books at all??

Criminals don't follow them, so what's the point???
68   Booger   2018 Mar 21, 4:51pm  

Family Guy reference:
69   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Mar 21, 5:09pm  

Speaking of White Terror, within 24 hours of this guy blowing himself up, we have multiple footage released by the Austin PD.

Where is the Footage of the Las Vegas Shooter? Been like 6 months.

They're both dead so neither is awaiting trial, so what gives LVPD?
70   justme   2018 Mar 21, 5:09pm  

rando says
CBOEtrader says
just seems like the left cant skip a chance to shit on white men


The unifying theme of the NY Times and NPR is that they shit on white men every day,


People may not realize, or not care, but I personally quite agree that white men as a group are badly treated in US society. Indeed, all men are treated very badly in almost all countries of the world. But the proper response to that problem is not to paper over the occurrences of white (and christian) males killing people as mental illness, while jumping on opportunities to denounce non-white non-christian males misdeeds as "terrorism". The solution to the mistreatment of white males is not to exclaim, at every opportunity, "look at those non-white non-Christian (meaning Muslim) men, they are much worse than us, they are TERRORISTS!".

Indeed, there is a group of predominantly white and so-called Christian men in Washington that are responsible for killing large number of Muslims, and by a huge factor, maybe 400X if you look at 5k dead US soldiers and 2M dead in the Middle East wars. Not to speak of completely demolishing entire cities in order to rid them of terrorists that the US Government pretty much enabled or created with previous and ongoing evil and stupid actions.

What this thread is about is the hypocrisy of these Washington (mostly) white men (and women such as Condoleeza Rice, Hillary Clinton, Viktoria Nuland), and their murder-apologist supporters that uncritically enable this mass slaughter. There exists no valid moral reason for 2M dead Arabs in the ME since 2003. It is all complete bullshit and psychopathic power games.

It dumbfounds me that people do not understand this.
71   Bd6r   2018 Mar 21, 5:18pm  

justme says
It is all complete bullshit and psychopathic power games.

And enrichment of a selected segment of population - ones who already are ultra-rich.
72   Patrick   2018 Mar 21, 5:29pm  

justme says
It dumbfounds me that people do not understand this.


Lol, please show some causal connection between Christianity and the bad things you mention!

We should also complain about people who breathe air, because all terrorists breathe air, right?
73   RWSGFY   2018 Mar 21, 5:38pm  

HappyGilmore says
Satoshi_Nakamoto says
Convenient. Why 9/11 is excluded? Because it tips the scale in unwanted direction?


Because that's when they chose to start the study?


It's a non-answer. Why did they choose to start the study specifically after 9/11? What's so special about 09/12/2001 that made it a perferct day for the start of the study? It's not like info on terror acts prior to 09/12/2001 is unavailable or unreliable - I'd say we have a pretty good record of this kind of events in the West going at least a century back.
74   justme   2018 Mar 21, 5:38pm  

Patrick says
Lol, please show some causal connection between Christianity and the bad things you mention!


Try this logic on for size:

It is ok for white Christians to kill 2M Muslims, because we are not doing it because we are Christian, we are doing it because they are Muslim, and that is a bad and violent religion.

It is not ok for Arab Muslims to kill 3k (9/11) + 5k white Christians, because they are doing it motivated by being Muslim.

Do people see the problem in the above? In my logic, It is NOT ok to kill 2M humans because some religious relatives of these 2M humans killed 3k humans.
75   Shaman   2018 Mar 21, 5:50pm  

HappyGilmore says
criminals don't follow laws, so why make more of them"

That is basically arguing for zero laws. Rapists don't follow laws, so why make it illegal?


I know Leftists are horrid at logic, but this is just pathetic!

Let me break this into tiny bites so even a Leftist can (possibly) Understand it. A caveman does have more of a chance, but here we go anyway.

You’re not a criminal until you’ve BROKEN a law! After that, we don’t need more laws to prosecute you, what we need is law ENFORCEMENT!
76   Patrick   2018 Mar 21, 6:00pm  

False analogy!

The war in Iraq was because of George W Fucking Bush, a super friend of the most violent extremist Muslims, the Saudis.

Please show some causation due to Christianity.
77   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 21, 6:04pm  

HappyGilmore says
lol--Is someone going to tell me why we have any laws on the books at all??


So we have legal recourse when someone breaks them.
78   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 21, 6:06pm  

justme says
Indeed, there is a group of predominantly white and so-called Christian men in Washington that are responsible for killing large number of Muslims, and by a huge factor, maybe 400X if you look at 5k dead US soldiers and 2M dead in the Middle East wars. Not to speak of completely demolishing entire cities in order to rid them of terrorists that the US Government pretty much enabled or created with previous and ongoing evil and stupid actions.


Yup thats why voting for D's and R's is a terrible idea. I'm glad you are on the Trump train. #maga
79   CBOEtrader   2018 Mar 21, 6:08pm  

justme says
What this thread is about


According to the OP, the thread is about calling this guy a WHITE TERRORIST. Dont expect anyone to read your mind or follow your "dog whistle" if it isnt explained in clear language.
80   MrMagic   2018 Mar 21, 6:16pm  

HappyGilmore says
Still waiting for Two Scoops source on DNC or media calling him a White Terrorist.

Coming soon?


Still waiting for HG to tell us what NEW laws would prevent these mass shootings and terror bombings.

Coming soon?
81   MrMagic   2018 Mar 21, 6:18pm  

Quigley says
HappyGilmore says
criminals don't follow laws, so why make more of them"

That is basically arguing for zero laws. Rapists don't follow laws, so why make it illegal?


I know Leftists are horrid at logic, but this is just pathetic!


It's so pathetic, it almost borders on trolling.
82   mell   2018 Mar 21, 6:21pm  

justme says
Patrick says
Lol, please show some causal connection between Christianity and the bad things you mention!


Try this logic on for size:

It is ok for white Christians to kill 2M Muslims, because we are not doing it because we are Christian, we are doing it because they are Muslim, and that is a bad and violent religion.

It is not ok for Arab Muslims to kill 3k (9/11) + 5k white Christians, because they are doing it motivated by being Muslim.

Do people see the problem in the above? In my logic, It is NOT ok to kill 2M humans because some religious relatives of these 2M humans killed 3k humans.


That's bs cause we didn't kill them, this has been a constant war zone. If the US pulled out and let Israel do whatever they wanted they'd already have annexed most if not all of middle east. But if this is what you want/prefer (Israeli dominance) instead if the status quo then you do actually have a point.
83   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 21, 7:51pm  

CBOEtrader says
HappyGilmore says
lol--Is someone going to tell me why we have any laws on the books at all??


So we have legal recourse when someone breaks them.


Yes, and that legal recourse is designed to be a deterrent. To create consequences severe enough to prevent people from performing actions that society deems to be bad.

Laws are created to influence behavior.
84   HappyGilmore   2018 Mar 21, 7:53pm  

Quigley says
know Leftists are horrid at logic, but this is just pathetic!

Let me break this into tiny bites so even a Leftist can (possibly) Understand it. A caveman does have more of a chance, but here we go anyway.

You’re not a criminal until you’ve BROKEN a law! After that, we don’t need more laws to prosecute you, what we need is law ENFORCEMENT!


Another post that seems to violate the rules. Quigley--you seem to be having a hard time today.

But, my logic is impeccable. Laws are designed to influence behavior by punishing those that violate them.
85   MrMagic   2018 Mar 21, 8:08pm  

HappyGilmore says
CBOEtrader says
HappyGilmore says
lol--Is someone going to tell me why we have any laws on the books at all??


So we have legal recourse when someone breaks them.


Yes, and that legal recourse is designed to be a deterrent. To create consequences severe enough to prevent people from performing actions that society deems to be bad.

Laws are created to influence behavior.


OK, we're finally making some progress.

Apparently the current laws stating it's illegal to shoot and kill someone aren't working, according to the Liberals. Since all you've been saying is that we need "common sense gun laws", please state specifically what they would be, and what ones the criminals WILL obey?

Is that a hard question to answer? You seem to have no problem spewing the "common sense" narrative, now please post the answer to my question. I've asked it from you multiple times.

HappyGilmore says
But, my logic is impeccable. Laws are designed to influence behavior by punishing those that violate them.


Then it should be extremely easy to provide the answer I've requested, right?
86   FortWayne   2018 Mar 21, 8:27pm  

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun.

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