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It Begins: Racist South Africa goes full Zimbabwe


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2018 Aug 20, 7:12am   6,873 views  61 comments

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Take 1/10th the land value, or we'll take your land anyway.
South African government has begun the process of seizing land from white farmers.

Local newspaper City Press reports two game farms in the northern province of Limpopo are the first to be targeted for unilateral seizure after negotiations with the owners to purchase the properties stalled.

While the government says it intends to pay, owners Akkerland Boerdery wanted 200 million rand ($18.7 million) for the land — they’re being offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million).

“Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5, 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state,” a letter sent to the owners earlier this year said.

Akkerland Boerdery obtained an urgent injunction to prevent eviction until a court had ruled on the issue, but the Department of Rural Development and Land Affairs is opposing the application.


“What makes the Akkerland case unique is that they apparently were not given the opportunity to first dispute the claim in court, as the law requires,” AgriSA union spokeswoman Annelize Crosby told the paper.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/south-africa-begins-seizing-whiteowned-farms/news-story/8937f899bd3f131bfc4ffb648ea5c53b

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16   NuttBoxer   2018 Aug 20, 10:37am  

Quigley says
Defense is for the public good. If you disagree, I suggest moving to Yemen.


When was the last time our military defended us from a foreign invader? ... ... ...

Yeah.

Appropriately ironic suggestion given all the defending US troops have done in Yemen, making it quite the defense paradise.
17   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 10:42am  

lostand confused says
You cna go to court, fight it and also get full compensation-full. In this case an entire race is being targeted-some who have been there for 300 years and their entire proeprty being stolen-with no compensation.
Only dems cna be so heartless and only look at politics.


Wow--when did Trump cultists lose their sense of humor. Obviously what is happening in South Africa is not the same as eminent domain in the US.
18   FortWayne   2018 Aug 20, 10:54am  

6 - migrate to America
7 - repeat that through affirmative action in US

dr6B says
Simple

step 1 - take land from white farmers - not raycist because they are white, no one in West is protesting
step 2 - give land to government cronies
step 3 - production plummets
step 4 - hunger
step 5 - refugees!
19   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 11:00am  

LeonDurham says
ow--when did Trump cultists lose their sense of humor. Obviously what is happening in South Africa is not the same as eminent domain in the US.

Only a cold heartless SJW dem would find humor in families being tossed into the streets peniless and still somehow bring trump into it. Then when caught-humor-yeah right. Many of these people ahve been there 300 years.
20   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 11:04am  

lostand confused says
Only a cold heartless SJW dem would find humor in families being tossed into the streets peniless and still somehow bring trump into it. Then when caught-humor-yeah right. Many of these people ahve been there 300 years.


Penniless? Perhaps you didn't read the article. They were offered $1.87MM.

Is it OK to make a joke now?
21   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 11:17am  

LeonDurham says
Penniless? Perhaps you didn't read the article. They were offered $1.87MM.

Is it OK to make a joke now?


For a property worth 18 million. You think they won't have a mortgage to cover business expenses? If they have a modest 4 million mortgage on the 18 million proeprty-who is going to cover the rest-YOU???
This is just a start-they have openly said they are going to seize all the lands for no compensation-this maybe as good a sit gets.

keep laughing-one day if your kind has its way-this may be our fate too-redistribution is all the rage in your side of the aisle. Democrats sicken me-claiming to be peace and tolerance-but inr elaity -well Germany, cambodia, Soviet union all show what ahppeend.
22   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 11:23am  

lostand confused says
For a property worth 18 million


lol. They asked for $18MM. Do you have an independent appraisal of the farm? When did they buy it? What did they pay for it?

lostand confused says
keep laughing-one day if your kind has its way-this may be our fate too-redistribution is all the rage in your side of the aisle.


Thanks for your permission to make jokes. I will continue. And, yes, redistribution in the form of progressive taxation is absolutely necessary in a free market capitalistic society to prevent all wealth from accumulating at the top. That is a fact.
23   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 11:27am  

LeonDurham says
lol. They asked for $18MM. Do you have an independent appraisal of the farm? When did they buy it? What did they pay for it?

Do you? You are so happy theya r egtting 1.87 million. The govt is now saying they will give zero soon.
LeonDurham says
Thanks for your permission to make jokes. I will continue. And, yes, redistribution in the form of progressive taxation is absolutely necessary in a free market capitalistic society to prevent all wealth from accumulating at the top. That is a fact.


Wow!! Just wow!! Redistribution and socialism-now dems do not hide it anymore-it is out in the open. Folks this mid terms and the future few elections are as important as civil war.
24   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 11:38am  

lostand confused says
Do you? You are so happy theya r egtting 1.87 million. The govt is now saying they will give zero soon.


Am I happy? Making a joke = I'm happy?

lostand confused says
Wow!! Just wow!! Redistribution and socialism-now dems do not hide it anymore-it is out in the open. Folks this mid terms and the future few elections are as important as civil war.


If you think progressive taxation is socialism then there is no point having a discussion. The midterms are important. It's literally fact vs. fiction. Truth vs. lies.
25   RWSGFY   2018 Aug 20, 11:44am  

LeonDurham says
Do you have an independent appraisal of the farm?


I'm afraid there won't be such thing as "independent appraisal" of anything there anymore.
26   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 11:48am  

LeonDurham says
If you think progressive taxation is socialism then there is no point having a discussion. The midterms are important. It's literally fact vs. fiction. Truth vs. lies.


Progressive taxation is what we have-redistribution is what you propose-Lord help us. My parents came froma socialist countyr for this. My parents country ahs gone capitalist-time to move back?
27   bob2356   2018 Aug 20, 11:58am  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
It Begins: Racist South Africa goes full Zimbabwe


So you are saying 50 years of apartheid wasn't racist?
28   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 20, 12:03pm  

bob2356 says
So you are saying 50 years of apartheid wasn't racist?



Nope. That's a helluva obvious yet weak strawman attempt.


Time to boycott South Africa again, for Racism. Stop Property Apartheid. Wish I had shorted the ETF back months ago when I first thought of it, it's wayyy down.

Some companies with subsidiaries in South Africa:
Barclays
Vodafone
inBev (Anheiser-Busch)
29   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 12:11pm  

lostand confused says
Progressive taxation is what we have-redistribution is what you propose


Progressive taxation is redistribution.
30   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 12:12pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
bob2356 says
So you are saying 50 years of apartheid wasn't racist?



Nope


And how do you come to this conclusion?
31   FortWayne   2018 Aug 20, 12:20pm  

Leon this is how socialism works. Take away from haves to give to government cronies.

The fact you think it’s fine, is pretty unamerican.

LeonDurham says
lostand confused says
Only a cold heartless SJW dem would find humor in families being tossed into the streets peniless and still somehow bring trump into it. Then when caught-humor-yeah right. Many of these people ahve been there 300 years.


Penniless? Perhaps you didn't read the article. They were offered $1.87MM.

Is it OK to make a joke now?
32   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 12:28pm  

FortWayne says
Leon this is how socialism works. Take away from haves to give to government cronies.

The fact you think it’s fine, is pretty unamerican.


My lord. Who says I think it's fine?
33   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 12:57pm  

LeonDurham says
Progressive taxation is redistribution.


No it is not. redistribution si what they did in Venezuela and now S Africa-seize people's proeprties/assets and redistribute. Stop trying to spin your socialist plans.
34   Ceffer   2018 Aug 20, 12:58pm  

They're just offering more than what the property will be worth under the new management. It was only worth 18.7 million under the old management.
35   Shaman   2018 Aug 20, 1:31pm  

bob2356 says
So you are saying 50 years of apartheid wasn't racist?


Clearly it wasn’t long enough.
36   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 1:33pm  

lostand confused says
No it is not. redistribution si what they did in Venezuela and now S Africa-seize people's proeprties/assets and redistribute. Stop trying to spin your socialist plans.


Again--the midterms is about truth and fiction. Facts and lies.
37   Shaman   2018 Aug 20, 1:38pm  

LeonDurham says
Again--the midterms is about truth and fiction. Facts and lies.


I agree. The question is whether the Lie of Cultural Marxism will be upheld, or the sword of truth will cleave off another chunk of Democrat influence this November.

Ya all know which one I’m sure will happen.
38   Goran_K   2018 Aug 20, 1:45pm  

Collectivism always goes this way, theft, violence, and then minority oppression.

Nazis had the holocaust.
Soviets had the red purges.
Democrats had black slavery and Japanese internment.

... and on and on.

South Africa is no different. Collectivist causing misery and death through their warped ideology which trounces all over individual rights and freedoms.
39   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 2:01pm  

LeonDurham says
Again--the midterms is about truth and fiction. Facts and lies.

Yup democrat lies so far-now they openly embrace it.
40   LeonDurham   2018 Aug 20, 2:02pm  

lostand confused says

Yup democrat lies so far-now they openly embrace it.


No that's the cult leader. He openly embraces lying and encourages all around him to do the same. Pat.net is a great example--his cult members don't even know when they are lying anymore and they don't care.
41   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 2:12pm  

LeonDurham says
is cult members don't even know when they are lying anymore and they don't care.

Your ammo-you come here and accuse so many people of lies-perhaps look at your own beleifs and the way you swing around reality to defend them. The mid term and next few elections are critical to stamp out socialism and its horrors or God forbid we becoem Venezuela.
42   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 20, 2:14pm  

LeonDurham says
And how do you come to this conclusion?


Uhhh. Go back and re-read.
43   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Aug 20, 2:14pm  

LeonDurham says
Again--the midterms is about truth and fiction. Facts and lies.


Yep. Russia Lies, Racism Lies, and just plain Crazy Lies.

Or the Truth of a Great Economy.
44   Bd6r   2018 Aug 20, 3:00pm  

AntiOcasioCortez says
Nope. Just ask the poor folks in New London, Conn who got screwed & tatooed by SCOTUS when they said that seizing the land to hand out to crony developers was AO constitutionally K.

To add insult to injury, the developer went broke and developed nothing on that land.
45   FortWayne   2018 Aug 20, 3:03pm  

The way you said, you dismissed it like it’s an ok thing.

LeonDurham says
FortWayne says
Leon this is how socialism works. Take away from haves to give to government cronies.

The fact you think it’s fine, is pretty unamerican.


My lord. Who says I think it's fine?
46   MrMagic   2018 Aug 20, 3:07pm  

LeonDurham says
FortWayne says
Leon this is how socialism works. Take away from haves to give to government cronies.

The fact you think it’s fine, is pretty unamerican.


My lord. Who says I think it's fine?


You voted for Bernie, remember?
47   MrMagic   2018 Aug 20, 3:09pm  

LeonDurham says
Again--the midterms is about truth and fiction. Facts and lies.


Nope, wrong...

It's about Reality versus the "Perception of Reality" (as promoted by the Dems).
48   bob2356   2018 Aug 20, 3:13pm  

lostand confused says
LeonDurham says
is cult members don't even know when they are lying anymore and they don't care.

Your ammo-you come here and accuse so many people of lies-perhaps look at your own beleifs and the way you swing around reality to defend them. The mid term and next few elections are critical to stamp out socialism and its horrors or God forbid we becoem Venezuela.


That's pretty funny. Let's start stamping out socialism at the department of defense, the department of agriculture, and the koch brothers enterprises A libertarian is someone who thinks the government spends too much money on other people.
49   lostand confused   2018 Aug 20, 3:37pm  

bob2356 says
Let's start stamping out socialism at the department of defense, the department of agriculture, and the koch brothers enterprises A libertarian is someone who thinks the government spends too much money on other people.


I actually agree. i think our govt spends way too much -especially int he er of 20 trillion debt. We need tot ighten and start with defense. trump is doing a god thing making NATO pay more, but that si not socialism or redistribution.
50   Bd6r   2018 Aug 20, 3:40pm  

bob2356 says
stamping out socialism at the department of defense

this should be #1 issue as military spending is out of control.
51   MAGA   2018 Aug 20, 3:41pm  

Sounds like a Realtor's wet dream.
52   Strategist   2018 Aug 20, 7:23pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Time to boycott South Africa again, for Racism. Stop Property Apartheid. Wish I had shorted the ETF back months ago when I first thought of it, it's wayyy down.


The South African politicians will never be able to manage the country. They are no different than other African politicians on the continent. Useless, stupid, and corrupt as hell.
South Africa will slowly die, and it will all be America's fault as usual.
53   Strategist   2018 Aug 20, 7:29pm  

bob2356 says
That's pretty funny. Let's start stamping out socialism at the department of defense, the department of agriculture, and the koch brothers enterprises


That's still capitalism. Subsidies to oil companies, Welfare Queens, and public employee Unions is socialism.
54   Strategist   2018 Aug 20, 7:33pm  

dr6B says
bob2356 says
stamping out socialism at the department of defense

this should be #1 issue as military spending is out of control.


If it wasn't for Islam, communism, and socialism, we wouldn't even need a defense department.
55   Strategist   2018 Aug 20, 7:37pm  

NuttBoxer says
Quigley says
Defense is for the public good. If you disagree, I suggest moving to Yemen.


When was the last time our military defended us from a foreign invader? ... ... ...


The mere existence of our military ensures no one will dare invade us.

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