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For what it's worth, I worked for a start-up car company in the past (remember DeLorean), so I've seen these start-up quality issues before.
Musk has already accomplished much more than DeLorean, whose DeLorean Motor Co. built only 9,080 cars before collapsing. That's about as many as Tesla sold monthly last year.
All companies eventually drop support on their products. That's when you really need a new computer.
Strategist saysDo you really need linux today?
I've used Ubuntu to run home media server, backup drive, and bittorrent service for a number of years. Plan to add an email server, but that project will take some time. I've extended the life of a shitty Dell I bought about 4 years back by running a stripped down Linux version, I think XLE.
Linux if for people who like doing things for themselves, and getting the most out of their hardware.
Yes. Linux and a barebones combustion engine with as little electronic gimmicks as possible.
What kind of warranty does Tesla offer? Usual 60k 5 years?
FortWayne saysWhat kind of warranty does Tesla offer? Usual 60k 5 years?
Shockingly, they have this info right on tesla.com:
Model S or Model X is protected by a 4 year or 50,000 miles (80,000 km) (whichever comes first) New Vehicle Limited Warranty and 8 year or unlimited miles Battery and Drive Unit Limited Warranty.
Model 3 is protected by a New Vehicle Limited Warranty for 4 years or 50,000 miles (80,000 km), whichever comes first. The Battery and Drive Unit in your vehicle are covered for a period of:
Vehicles with Standard Range Battery - 8 years or 100,000 miles (160,000 km), whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
Vehicles with Long Range Battery - 8 years or 120,000 miles (192,000 km), whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.
Too much white bro, colored cars matter.
E-man saysI'm surprised you're still waiting for your Model 3 reservation. Is it because you only want to buy the basic $35k model?
Yes, I don't want to go above $40K. The Model S is unaffordable to me. If the Model 3 was not so economical, I would not have considered buying it.
E-man saysI'm the owner of a Model S and used my account to order two Tesla Model 3 for my wife's siblings. Here are the cars line up in the recent visit to my in-law parents. They're amazing cars. Once you've owned and driven one, you don't want to go back and drive a gas car. My biz partner owns a Model X, also a white car. The instant torque is addictive. Everyone is loving their Tesla. Now my wife wants one where I already bought her a new MDX last year. I told her to give me another year. Sigh.....
The electric cars ...
If you don't want to wait, there's always a Bolt... :)
you can buy extended warranty for another 4 years at the end of the 4th year for $4,400.
Model 3 is protected by a New Vehicle Limited Warranty for 4 years or 50,000 miles
E-man saysIf you don't want to wait, there's always a Bolt... :)
A Bolt, Leaf or something is my choice for a second car. But a Tesla is the first choice.
If it's such an awesome car, why do you need to buy an extended warranty? It shouldn't need any repairs...
You get sold extended warranties on any car you purchase.
On average the extended warranty purchaser never uses the full value of the warranty. If you can afford to pay for the repairs the odds are that you should not buy a warranty if you cannot pay for repairs that you're better off purchasing the warranty
WookieMan saysYou get sold extended warranties on any car you purchase.
What are you even talking about? You get sold extended warranties on any car you purchase.
Oh, that's right, you buy the perfect car that has zero problems so warranties don't matter to you.
But the other commenter was making a statement that seemed to imply that warranties are a needed thing with Tesla's. They're not.
People buy the warranty and they just made an extra $1-2k on that sale.
On average the extended warranty purchaser never uses the full value of the warranty. If you can afford to pay for the repairs the odds are that you should not buy a warranty if you cannot pay for repairs that you're better off purchasing the warranty
It's as simple as that and doesn't speak to the quality of the car as was being implied.
Great choice. Patience is a virtue. Although Tesla's powertrain and battery are only guaranteed for 8 years or 100,000 miles, the battery is still running at 500,000 miles with less than 20% battery degradation when tested. The powertrain is designed to last 1,000,000 miles. Basically, it takes over 80 years to drive 1,000,000 miles for the average American folks. Not sure if you would live that long to see your powertrain lasted 1,000,000 miles.
After $7,500 Fed tax credit, $2,500 CA tax rebate and $500 PG&E rebate, the Model 3 costs less than $50k out the door. It's costing me $15/mo on average for 1,000 miles/mo driving. With the gas saving for a few years, it will pay for the next $10k. Just go for the long range now. No need to wait. Make that jump.
E-man saysGreat choice. Patience is a virtue. Although Tesla's powertrain and battery are only guaranteed for 8 years or 100,000 miles, the battery is still running at 500,000 miles with less than 20% battery degradation when tested. The powertrain is designed to last 1,000,000 miles. Basically, it takes over 80 years to drive 1,000,000 miles for the average American folks. Not sure if you would live that long to see your powertrain lasted 1,000,000 miles.
After $7,500 Fed tax credit, $2,500 CA tax rebate and $500 PG&E rebate, the Model 3 costs less than $50k out the door. It's costing me $15/mo on average for 1,000 miles/mo driving. With the gas saving for a few years, it will pay for the next $10k. Just go for the long range now. No need to wait. Make that jump.
This is the type of logic I used 7 years ago with the 2011 Prius compared to the 2011 Honda Civic. The lowest advertised ...
Even though the Prius cost $4,500 more than a wonderful Civic, I have already saved $17,000 more. Now tell me which car was cheaper?
I'm not disagreeing that you came out ahead, but some of your numbers are questionable? I've got 150k on my Civic, and only had 2 brake jobs so far. As far as other maintenance, how do you automatically assume $1000 saved?
So you don't really need it. You just want it.
Gas savings 10cents per mile $10,000
e cars 3 cents per mile
Electricity rebates $500 per year $1,500
Assume 3 years only.
The total maintenance I have spent on the 160,000 Prius miles was $1,000 including the brakes + oil changes. No repairs were done, because nothing ever went wrong.
Without any problems found That's a fucking miracle car. I want to take you to the track next time I go to pick my horse.
I have a 2014 Camry hybrid and I gotta say I like the car.
Quigley saysI have a 2014 Camry hybrid and I gotta say I like the car.
Did you buy the extended warranty.
bob2356 saysWithout any problems found That's a fucking miracle car. I want to take you to the track next time I go to pick my horse.
That's all I have spent. Plus oil changes.
I've been a car guy for 40 years and have never seen anything close to that.
I've been a car guy for 40 years and have never seen anything close to that.
Uh-oh... Fire under the Big Top!
https://twitter.com/rajmathai/status/1032796272476868609
EDIT: looks like that is a small tent, not the Model 3 assembly line.
MrMagic saysIf it's such an awesome car, why do you need to buy an extended warranty? It shouldn't need any repairs...
What are you even talking about? You get sold extended warranties on any car you purchase. This isn't exclusive to Tesla. Oh, that's right, you buy the perfect car that has zero problems so warranties don't matter to you. Do you read what you type?
Uh-oh... Fire under the Big Top!
https://twitter.com/rajmathai/status/1032796272476868609
EDIT: looks like that is a small tent, not the Model 3 assembly line.
E-man saysGreat choice. Patience is a virtue. Although Tesla's powertrain and battery are only guaranteed for 8 years or 100,000 miles, the battery is still running at 500,000 miles with less than 20% battery degradation when tested. The powertrain is designed to last 1,000,000 miles. Basically, it takes over 80 years to drive 1,000,000 miles for the average American folks. Not sure if you would live that long to see your powertrain lasted 1,000,000 miles.
After $7,500 Fed tax credit, $2,500 CA tax rebate and $500 PG&E rebate, the Model 3 costs less than $50k out the door. It's costing me $15/mo on average for 1,000 miles/mo driving. With the gas saving for a few years, it will pay for the next $10k. Just go for the long range now. No need to wait. Make that jump.
This is the type of logic I used 7 years ago with the 2011 Prius compared to the 2011 Honda Civic. The lowest advertised ...
Thanks for interjecting some common sense. It's best not to feed the trolls.
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