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The American people lost.

Democrats want the votes of illegals and lower wages to please their corporate donors above all else.

Patrick says

The American people lost.

Democrats want the votes of illegals and lower wages to please their corporate donors above all else.

@Patrick,

my skeptical mind says that it was all a YUUGE circus. Neither side wants to increase wages of people who actually do the work. Think logically - what was the chance that D's will give in about the wall since it is in some way symbol of Trump or his legacy? I'd say 0.000000 and anyone with one neuron in brain could see it.

What is the chance that R's want higher wages for blue collar workers? Who will work for $5/hr in construction or meat packing? Will they really support Trump in limiting illegal immigration or will they quietly support D's in bringing in new batches of illegals? I have not made up my mind on what Trump wants yet, since his gyrations are difficult to analyze, but fact that he employs H1's in his hotels is telling. I know these are not illegals but they still decrease wages of locals.

Sure @d6rB I agree that the Democrats were dead set against the wall simply to deprive Trump of another opportunity to claim success. They have lots of lame rationalizations, but the true reason is simply hate for Trump, as ever. He threatens their comfy sinecures.

And I agree that Republicans in general, as the other party of the bosses, also did not want to stem the inflow of illegals in the least. But Republicans have always been for the bosses, so it's impossible to be disappointed in them.

Trump alone is the missing Labor Party in the US. He alone is speaking the truths about illegal immigration which the party duopoly will not speak. Trump is not a Republican. He is sui generis, something we desperately needed. Some thing different, even if not ideal.

Of course if Trump were really serious about protecting US workers, he would be proposing mandatory prison time for all employers of illegals. But he hasn't done that, so that inspires doubt. But at least Trump is a far better traditional Democrat than the current withered crop of Democratic politicians are. So workers at least have a little bit of representation where before they had no representation at all in either party.

Patrick says

Of course if Trump were really serious about protecting US workers, he would be proposing mandatory prison time for all employers of illegals. But he hasn't done that, so that inspires doubt.

I'd say D's would have much harder time fighting against this proposal as it would involve weeping CEO's hauled off to prison instead of weeping minority womyn on TV. Perhaps that is why it is not suggested? Or R's are dead set against this proposal, since their sponsors would be ones going to prison?

Yeah, rigged in Hillary's favor, which goes to show how unliked she really was. Everyday I thank God that horrendous old cow isn't president. It's doubtful the world would have survived 4 to 8 of Hillary in office.

I scoff at what you said. What a joke, not even funny. We all know who the real socialist party is and it has become obvious with the radical lefts Dems like Ocasio Cortez, and you just watch CA governor wreck this state with his socialist policies. He'll have a rampant homeless population and shit all over the streets. You won't be able to walk out your door in four years. Gee, I wonder if you'll be making jokes about Republicans and socialism then.

If you were smart you would never vote for another Democrat. They're nothing but a pack of liars working against your own interests, that is if you're interested in a strong economy, strong infrastructure, and actual border security, that includes a wall.

If you're for mass immigration, flooding the state with illegals, giving them free health care and everything else including free lawyers, then Gavin Newsom is your man.

And yet somehow Trump was elected.

That's not a fringe thing, nor a cult. It's democracy.

Trump, for all his faults, is doing quite well as president by all objective measures.

The haters need to look at themselves and understand that they are the cult now.

I can't wait for Valenti and Marcotte to shriek in rage at the inevitable Jokes, wanting everybody to ignore how Kamala's rise was related to Mr. Brown's Willie. Or rather Willie's rise was related to Kamala.

Here's the new action figure:

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1088521837439578112

Hey, good catch! I'll switch my bookmarks over. Thanks

The Elites say if the Borders aren't wide open, no work will get done from a labour shortage.

The Elites say if middle Class Whites have children, it'll deprive them of a half million in income, and pollute the planet.

Its Started: GOP Media / Pundit Types Use the media To Shank "The Golden Golem" Like Gangs In Prison after he caved on the wall. To be more precise he got his fat pasty white ass handed to him in his hands by a woman of all things.

Ann Coulter and other conservatives have vented their frustrations over a risky bid that eroded support for Trump......

“Good news for George Herbert Walker Bush: As of today, he is no longer the biggest wimp ever to serve as President of the United States,” Coulter tweeted Friday.

Tomi Lahren, a Fox Nation host, tweeted that Trump allowed “Nancy to walk all over him,” referring to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). “It’s President Trump, not President Pelosi. Act like it. #BuildThatWall,” she wrote.

Fox Business host Lou Dobbs, who described himself as an “an animated, energetic supporter of this president,” conceded that Pelosi “has just whipped the president of the United States.” “It will be perceived as such on every television monitor and screen in the country and to deny it is to escape from reality,” he said.

On his Fox News show, Tucker Carlson left most of the opining about Trump’s shutdown deal to his guests, adding that “you know what erodes your popularity with the public? Weakness.”

The Daily Caller seemed to capture the sentiment with its headline about the deal on the homepage. “TRUMP CAVES,” its headline read in all caps. “A serious reversal.”

There was similar frustration in the headlines of the Gateway Pundit, a Trump-aligned site known for helping to spread conspiracy theories. “TRUMP CAVES!” one headline shouted. “Ends Shutdown with NO BORDER WALL — Pelosi’s SECOND BIG WIN This Week.” That article included a YouTube video from December of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) dancing.

Breitbart wrote: “Government Open……And Border. NO WALL.” “The White House finally caved to Democrats demands,” the Breitbart article said, “despite Trump’s repeated assertions this week that he would not do so.”

Like a pack of Hyenas at feeding time with the caveat that hyenas have better morals and more class

freespeak says

Adios, Land of the Free? New Princeton study says we're an oligarchy now

Now? Where have you been for the last 50 years?

I've never seen so many defeatist Liberals enslaved by their own paranoid minds. But thinks the con men that has fucked up this country for the last 40 years, are their salvation.
Trump just got here and all of your worldly problems are Trump's fault. You people are piss poor pathetic. I would stay home and lick my anal wounds and never leave home if I were you pathetic little snot whistles.

I choose free will, and Chose Trump so we can continue to chose free will.

I thought about it, but worried that the certificate will be revoked for political reasons and so thought it best to at least leave plain http as an option.

Dependencies on centralized authorities simply to speak kind of bothers me. I wish there were a way to encrypt the site without any external dependency. Maybe via javascript somehow?

Elgatouno says

“He put a lot of American federal workers through hell for nothing. This whole idea of building the wall was not something that had any validity on Capitol Hill,” said former Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele. “If this was a such a priority for them, why didn’t they pass it over the last two years?”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/national/smaller-government-some-trump-supporters-cheer-the-shutdown/2019/01/26/4679c2ca-218d-11e9-a759-2b8541bbbe20_story.html

Why post this and then immediately change your screen name from Rocketmanjoe to Elgatouno? You do realize this assbag is speaking for the establishment that wants access to illegal aliens to depress labor prices, don't you?

ForcedTQ says

speaking for the establishment that wants access to illegal aliens to depress labor prices, don't you?

IT doesn't make the question any less legitimate. Perhaps implied in your response is the answer ?

Trump waited until he knew he would be able to get it, to try to make it happen ? That's why it wasn't a priority when he had congress and could have done it ?

I guess even back then, if Trump went for it there would have been congressional meeting in which they would have had to look at all the facts and data which say the wall is a waste compared to other ways we could continue the successful increase in border security that's been going on for nearly a decade. And they did allocate $1.6 billion last year for repairs and extensions to the fences. What happened is Ann Coulter.

Perhaps Steele isn't representing the establishment as much as he is pointing out what's obvious, which is how easy Trump finds manipulating his base to be.

Left has been very adamant about silencing disagreement, that’s for sure.

freespeak says

To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.

One kind of DNA testing I think we really need is mandatory paternity testing at birth.

Every man should know with 100% certainty whether the kid is his or not. I think a lot of child abuse is because the father suspects he has been defrauded by a cheating woman and resents it. But if he knew for sure, he'd be more caring toward his actual kids, and absolutely refuse to support the kids of some other guy.

Unfortunately, militant feminists currently control the courts and routinely make men pay to support kids that are not their own. The guy just has to have "acted as the father" or some such bullshit. It's essentially indentured servitude, and should be ruled unconstitutional.

The NY Times reported the case of one man in 2009 who found out after three years that his daughter was not his. He continued to pay child support but when his wife later married the child’s biological father, he sued to end paternity rights. He lost the case. He loves his child but is paying for “a biologically intact family.” The biological father didn’t show up in court but his ex-wife did and contested it. She won and continued to receive support payments from the man she defrauded. ...

Many worry that the state will be forced to pick up the costs of supporting the children if men are allowed to bow out of paternity.

Last year, the Toronto Sun reported a case of a father in Canada who discovered after 16 years of marriage that three of his four children were not his and were sired by three different men. He was ordered to pay child support despite this revelation. The man knew his wife cheated but he didn’t expect the results to be what they were.

If the man acts like the father, he is the father in some states. There is a time limit on how long a man can request a change in payments.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/should-men-who-arent-biological-fathers-be-forced-to-pay-child-support/

Build the wall now.

I think this is a question Trump needs to answer. Why try to get your highest priority or at least the one you spoke endlessly about, after you have lost unified Republican control of the Government? Trump had two years to do it. Yes the filibuster but the Dems offered Trump 25 billion for the wall inreturn for DACA, to which Trump agreed and then reneged. My guess is there is no "good" answer. And Coulter is right, Trump is a wimp as most bullies are after they discover their bluster doesn't work when someone stands up to them, they then fold. I don't believe Trump gives a shit about the wall, its only the winning he cares about particularly a second term and this paralyzes him in complex situations.

Elgatouno says

“If this was a such a priority for them, why didn’t they pass it over the last two years?”

Wait, the same wall and border security that almost every single Republican Candidate for House, Senate, and President has claimed they were going to implement for 2 decades?

If that were to happen, just use a self signed certificate. If SHTF you are more likely to lose the DNS registration than have the SSL cert revoked anyway.

@patrick

Kolo2 looks like another bot

Lots of bots or foreign troll lately.. Like these kolo and girl characters.

Yup, that one from Vietnam.

Nuked now.

The original article is pretty interesting:

The tactic, which cops have deployed for months in states like Oklahoma, is a new twist in “civil forfeiture,” a controversial legal process that lets police seize funds from motorists if they suspect money is tied to a drug crime. Critics, however, liken the practice to banditry—noting the police use forfeiture to pay themselves, and that citizens must take extraordinary legal measures to get their money back.

The arrival of the handheld ERAD machines, which stands for Electronic Recovery and Access to Data, comes at a time when fewer people are carrying cash. They work by imitating the payment terminals found at ordinary retailers, and allowing cops to slurp up the values found on pre-paid cards for Visa (v, +0.68%) , Starbucks (sbux, +3.01%) and so on.

For now, it appears the ERAD devices are only able to siphon funds from pre-paid cards, and not from a driver’s personal bank account or credit card.

d6rB says

Patrick says

Of course if Trump were really serious about protecting US workers, he would be proposing mandatory prison time for all employers of illegals. But he hasn't done that, so that inspires doubt.

I'd say D's would have much harder time fighting against this proposal as it would involve weeping CEO's hauled off to prison instead of weeping minority womyn on TV. Perhaps that is why it is not suggested? Or R's are dead set against this proposal, since their sponsors would be ones going to prison?

Note that absolutely zero Democrats are also for mandatory prison time for the employers of illegals.

Like Chomsky says, they are really just two wings of the same party, the business party.

Why yes I have. Trump did not significantly affect the federal debt trajectory:



And yet the economy has been fantastic.

So you have to give some credit to Trump's policies.

But has Trump been good for your personal security and prosperity?

Yes, he has.

So why all the hate?

Patrick says

But has Trump been good for your personal security and prosperity

Hasn't improved either one for me. Then again I try not to let politicians take care of me - more of a look out for myself type. Promises made, Promises broken. The worst solutions of all are the Bi-Partisan ones which means getting screwed without the lube.

Hate is such a nasty word to use the adjective of the Potus.

Is Utter Detestation better ?

Elgatouno says

mental genius

What happened, did your Rocketmanjoe, sockpuppet account expire, so now you're Elgatouno?

Elgatouno says

you think he'd of seen this coming

Interesting, I just looked up "Elgatouno" to see what it meant. Look what came up:



What are the odds?

"The most comprehensive study done to assess the link between OVERPOPULATION, HUMAN NATURE, and INABILITY OF DINDUS TO GET THEIR SHIT IN ORDER WITHOUT THE WHITE DEBIL has confirmed that the OVERPOPULATION, HUMAN NATURE, and INABILITY OF DINDUS TO GET THEIR SHIT IN ORDER WITHOUT THE WHITE DEBIL is fueling conflicts that lead to more refugees." Fuck, now I am become think tank.

It's always about MOO ney.

Convicted felons already lose their freedom. They get imprisoned.

I'm not sure felons have a right to privacy for their DNA.

Patrick says

Convicted felons already lose their freedom. They get imprisoned.

I'm not sure felons have a right to privacy for their DNA.

Convicted Felons also lose voting and firearms rights. And if on Parole, lose freedom of movement and sometimes get a curfew. Compared to this, I think DNA privacy will be no different than Mug Shot privacy.

Have you missed Kavanaugha confirmation?
Guilty at accusation, arrest isn’t needed.

married says

Everyone arrested is guilty?

WTF?

Don't call my mom a cheeseburger!

Ceffer says

It's good they don't ticket for cutting the cheese while driving, I'd be in big trouble.

I hear that if you can run your car in a "renewable" way that way, you get to use the carpool lane solo in California.

just_dregalicious says

I use an electric shaver every morning on my way into work. Been doing so for over a quarter century. Time saver!

Got to get the man-scaping done somehow.