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I agree that this push is coming from the left now. I meet many covert trump supporters in the bay area who after carefully feeling out your political leanings tell you they stopped mostly talking politics to their lefty friends since they cannot debate accordingly without the triggering. And they say they have many friends like themselves who lay low politically in an area as batshit crazy left as the bay area. But all of them are the nicest people, usually accompanied by a hot gf/wife and a pleasure to talk to, not just about politics but everything else. And most of them are socially actually relatively liberal as long as you don't push your beliefs onto them or their family. If Trump would win 80% of the votes tomorrow the US would be transformed into a polite, grounded, no-nonsense and confident country. Civil War my ass.

Tenpoundbass says

This is what's called right wing dirtbag virtue signaling.

We have the most corrupt incompetent President in history, and guess what, all of the sudden liberals are baby killers again.

Transparent much ?

Patrick says

The left have become the Nazis of the current day, violently intolerant of even the mildest forms of dissent.

You live in the Bay area, so your view is warped. I argue with you guys all the time, and yet I don't like SJWs, or what they stand for with respect to freedom of speech, and I at least partially agree with your views. I'm definitely on the left but I don't fit your definition of the left at all.

(OMFG - you mean it's not black and white - you don't have to always take one of two extreme positions ? )

You don't have to decide whether homosexuality is good or bad, and allowing gays to exist freely and without a lot of hate directed at them is actually a different question than whether it's ultimately good or bad ?

And yes, for example race can exist, and still most significant differences - even the ones "on average" can be almost entirely due to cultural factors.

THe shocking thing to realize is that what Trump voters really want is a dictator.

marcus says

You don't have to decide whether homosexuality is good or bad, and allowing gays to exist freely and without a lot of hate directed at them is actually a different question than whether it's ultimately good or bad ?

I guess the meaning of freedom is lost on Trump supporters.

ThreeBays says

Patrick says

The left, and the left alone, created Trump and got him elected.

What else stupid will the right do, that's the lefts fault? Isn't the right supposed to be the party of self responsibility?

What's been lost is the moderate.

We're most of us moderates. 82% of the country hold moderate views and believe in dialogue or even compromise.

What is presented in popular media today is nothing but the fringe. We're exposed to nothing but the looney margins of political thought (if you can even call it thought): the foaming, myopic Trumpers, the hate-filled pussyhatters and antifas.

These bizarro characters are a laughably small minority, and yet they occupy the lions share of public media attention. Moderate voices don't get your ire up, and open dialogue isn't salacious enough to sell clicks, but it is imperative to the survival of our culture that we start paying more attention to the moderate middle, and stop wasting our attentions on the trash peddlers and tantrum throwers of the far right and left.

Another day... TDS running rampant again...

You may be describing nepotism.

This is what dictatorship looks like:

LOL You guys never let up with the hype.

I like the Liberal Idiots when they were worried about Scary Clowns in the Woods.

You know Trump wasn't elected back then. They were running around the country dressing up as scary clowns in the woods and getting their Commie friends to film it, so they could have self induced panic attacks. Trump filled that void for them. Just remember people who hate Trump have mental issues and would dress in Killer Clown costumes and give themselves a panic attack if Trump didn't exist. Trump just fills their Mental needs.

You Boys quit working yourselves up you're going to give yourselves a heart attack.

LOL I swear...

Remember The Guam!

Liberals civil army consisting of trannies, blue haired freaks screaming equality and ending gun rights-LOL!!

marcus says

We have the most corrupt incompetent President in history, and guess what, all of the sudden liberals are baby killers again.

Transparent much ?

44 Killing Liberal Scumbags are in the Senate Right now. Nasty Stuff Marcus, you might not know because you watch CNN or National Review.
But year, they voted on Killing Babies after 3 Liberal Governors voted it into Law. A fetus is in the womb, if it is out and alive. That's called a Baby. Not a clump of Cells.
You need to get yourself Educated and know about the Evil bastards you consort with Marcus you seem like a nice guy.
Please stop reading that mind rotting filth that is the Fake News MSM.


What rational Journalism body would Lobby to a Corrupt Communist Baby Killing Democrat House to investigate the Sitting President for calling them names?

Come on Marcus you're smarter than that! NO?


It's a new World Marcus and with Trump's Free Speech EO the Liberals are toast in 2020. I'm going to the Universities and call every Democrat there to their face, Baby Killer supporters.

We Shall Overcome Mother Fuckers!

jazz_music says

Amazon prime wardrobe

Needs searchable sizing (34Wx29L), textile (wool, cotton, etc), etc. Amazon sucks for clothes for this reason, particularly if you're athletic but don't want to wear a volumnous "regular/classic" cotton bag but can't squeeze your pecs and arms into Gillette slim fit because of your Or wear size 13 shoes.

Too many times I put in data and get results where they only have size 10 shoes or 30Wx32L pants or 15Nx35A shit left.

Ebay is much better.

More LibbyFuck Globalist Boo-shhheyat Propafuckanda. Trying to make the Heartland appear to be the BungHoleLand because they voted for Trump. If you want to see a BungHole created by LibbyFuck values, just peruse downtown San Francisco and Third World California. Now, THERE'S a BungHole.
AND the patronage divide between the LibbyFuck Royal Rich and the general populace scum suckers.

jazz_music says

Civil war might be the actual thing that forces all sides to face the life-or-death realities of our situation SO MUCH that gaslighting and trolling will stop being cute.

BOOM

Long overdue.

You do know, if that happens, there will be thousands from your Blue Team taking dirt naps, right?

Worrying about trolling will be the least of the worries.

He made a claim about the 2 groups falling behind (white ppl in trump-country who support trump, and black/latino ppl in big cities) but he didn't provide any data to support it?

His other point about electoral votes at least had some data, but it was extremely meek and very biased in favor of supporting his agenda. He compared CA w/ Wyoming, the most and least populated states.

Who is this joker?

This is what I call "lame science" - a small dash of data + some good looking charts and production, and maybe a white person in a suit - which gives people the impression of credibility to their message.

I'm seeing people that before would have never been employed, now being employed.
Trump made it OK for a company to tell the black Youth. You know, go back home take that gold grill out of your mouth and lose the Coolio hairdo, and pull your damn pants up, and if you come back tomorrow and take this interview more seriously. We will give you a shot. You can see the pride in their eyes. They don't feel disrespected. Liberals made them disrespect themselves for so many years. They forgot how good it feels to work for yourself and to be a respectable human being. Without demanding respect from the pistol grip end of a gun.

Even the company I work for. In 2015 when I started there. They only had about 3 black guys in the back shipping area. Now there are Several Black people working in the Business end of the Company. Sourcing, Project Management, and Customer Service and Sales. Out of a company of about 300, I would say 25% are black, 20% Latino, and about 10% Arab. This company actually pulled off Diversity without White Liberal Idiots working in HR making the hiring of People of other color about them. I've never heard a word from our company about "Diversity" it just happened and we all appreciate each other. Hiring and respecting people shouldn't be an accomplishment for a Liberal.

The Incredulous Mitch McConnell



The world is no longer watching, they’re gawking. Congressional Republicans have been silent, no-comment, as one after another of Trump’s closest aides, advisors, cabineteers, attorney, and family members are implicated, indicted, arrested, found guilty and sentenced for felonies committed. We have a third-rate President who holds up his third finger to everyone who might oppose him. Screw Justice. Screw Congress. Screw laws. He’ll just have a hissy-fit and shut the government down if he can’t get his way. A two-year old in a 46-X-large suit. Another round of 800,000 federal employees forced to work and wait patiently, hopefully for the promise of a paycheck when the President is finally sated.

But hold on, collusion to the rescue. This great man (as in 246-overweight pounds greatness) apparently made a stealthy deal with the Senate’s flabber-gasser, the one who never fails to astonish us with his special brand of hot air—Mitch McConnell. Finally, going one step too far, this President who defines and embodies “national emergency”, has declared one at our southern boarder. He is the child who continues to play with his toy soldiers except that now they are real, living, breathing service men and women who he moves around with feckless contempt. Now, he is about to raid their budget to fund his obsessive wall and Mitch McConnell is his general contractor endorsing this national emergency!

Apparently, when Trump plays with plastic toy boats during bath-time, he sees a the enemy’s armada on the horizon. This is a man without vision, who sees visions. Every day he tests and pushes through the ethical, moral and legal boundaries just to test the flexibility of his party cohorts. They haven’t disappointed him yet. What is their motivation? Are they fearful of retaliation and public humiliation at the commander-in-thief’s hand? Is it pure selfishness that they defiantly hang on to their power? It doesn’t really matter. Mitch is Donald’s pitchman. His oath to act independently, to protect the country from outside and inside enemies, is a perversion, a ruse to protect Donald-the-dictator.

McConnell’s misdiagnosing that there is a national emergency seriously brings into question his own perception and fitness for the job. Is he also deranged? Hallucinating? Perhaps whatever ails Trump is infectious. Regardless, Mitch has crossed the line and has become an enemy of the state—a colluder and Trump’s handmaiden. Call in the cleaning crews to disinfect! The ACLU, and scores of interdictors will arrive shortly with buckets of lye.

https://www.whatthortoldme.com/the-incredulous-mitch-mcconnell/

The left wing media made their idiots on the left believe there is civil war coming. Too funny. It takes serious stupid to think war would come amid prosperity.

But propaganda does gaslight liberal minds well these days.

Tarantula says

Pretty quiet on this topic. I'm still wondering why the wall wasn't an emergency for the entire TWO YEARS when the Republicans had a majority in both houses?

I keep hearing that talking point. What is the point of reminding Trump supporters over and over, the same Rino's they tried to Primary out because they didn't support Trump,
Lost anyway, because Brenda Snipes is one hell of a Ballot Cook?

So the Rinos are out, because the Republican Party in many districts in America are to Chickenshit to inject a suitable RINO Primary challenger.
What would you guys that keep repeating this Mantra how the Republicans had the house for two years and didn't do anything that Trump wanted?
What is your suggestion, or are you just stating the Obvious that the RINO's didn't do shit for us? Is your name Sherlock?

Tarantula says

I haven't heard a good reason why there was no emergency until the Democrats took control of the House of Representatives.

Go ask your Dem friends in Congress. You know, the ones who voted FOR 600 miles of wall in 2013.

Remember, they were FOR the wall before they were AGAINST it.

Hypocrites...

BTW, nice new sockpuppet account.

The President decides what an emergency is. Congress gave him the powers. Don't like it, Congress can take it away.

I call a million or more unauthorized border crossings a national emergency.

Obama declared Yemen elections and Ukraine to be national emergencies, but our porous border isn't?

Tarantula says

Still no answer.

With the amount of time spend on wall discussion, I'm surprised that nobody has an answer to this question.

Here's one.....

Don't come in here as a long time poster with yet another account posing loaded questions.

If a reasonable discussion is wished for, ask balanced fact finding questions or present a reasonable point of view. Present why, in factual detail, the wall is a bad idea, and what a better idea to deal with illegal immigration is. Short of that, no one is taking the bait.

The questions are STUPID because EVERYONE knows Trumps emergency declaration is bullshit. Its just a way to try and get the wall built. His supporters know it, his opponents know it.

Tarantula says

Still no answer.

With the amount of time spend on wall discussion, I'm surprised that nobody has an answer to this question.

Nobody is really answering because it's a boring question.

Tarantula says

Pretty quiet on this topic.

I've expressed on Patnet why I don't like the idea of the WALL! at least 3 times (see here - http://patrick.net/post/1322601?0#comment-1572694). I do not see why I should do it the 4th - posters will get tired of reading the same thing over and over. And I agree with Rand Paul on emergency declaration 100%

d6rB says

I've expressed on Patnet why I don't like the idea of the WALL! at least 3 times

My idea was to invade and conquer Mexico. Then annex it as a state when it’s been properly subdued. Then build a wall on the border with Guatemala. Much more reasonable project!

Tarantula says

I haven't heard a good reason why there was no emergency

There has been an emergency for decades.

Interesting. The lobsters still have the bands on the claws. Euphemism for no nukes?

becaue it's only an emergency when libbies control anything...

Tarantula says

Why didn't Trump declare an emergency when Republicans controlled the house?

Wall is emergency from at least 30 years.
Just nobody cares before. Congress protect borders of other countries and spend billions on it, while ours own border was leaking.

Yeah was disappointed with Rando on this, from what I heard. Why is there such a race to suck Jew cock so by T/R? Better be a bretty gud reason. Hopefully is optics.

Tarantula says

We've never had a wall, so I guess the "emergency" is 242 years old and counting ;)

Walls are the coming thing. They're propping up all over the World, and Obama paid for Jordan's Wall with Syria - which works great. As does the new Hungarian Wall.

Get with the program, the open borders project is dead.

Thing is though, I'm starting to go from wall to flog and tossover.

Tarantula says

I haven't heard a good reason why there was no emergency until the Democrats took control of the House of Representatives.

You will not hear a good reason - ever.

You will hear a lot of crappy bullshit reasons but not a good reason, not a sound reason based in logic, not an intelligently thought out reason - but a plenty of bullshit and spin reasons.

Tarantula says

Tenpoundbass says

I keep hearing that talking point.

It's not a talking point, Trout. It's a legitimate question.

Why didn't Trump declare an emergency when Republicans controlled the house?

You're trying to avoid answering the question by deflecting.

I did more than called it a talking point, I also asked a serious question. Answer it seriously or don't get taken seriously.