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I did look at Michigan as the COL is among lowest in the country, but pay is also very low.
The Lakes prevent the 100% humidity that blankets the Midwest
No - it is boring, depressive and a pain in the ass to deal with. Overcast constantly - a day with sunshine is a rare commodity. Big pain in the ass
Wind/breezes off the lake do nothing for Deer Flies, plus those suckers can break skin right through a sweatshirt . Mosquitos will appear like magic as soon as you get a few feet into the woods.
Go into the woods in May and June become a moving smorgasbord
You're conflating two things, the dense snowfall, and the clouds.
FortWayneIndiana saysWas thinking of going back to Indiana, but couldn't convince the Mrs.
Tbf, Indiana is as boring as a state can get. Low cost of living though sure. You can pick up a corn field farmhouse for peanuts
I accepted a job in Phoenix, partly for the 30% decrease in cost-of-living, partly to stay within a drive-able distance of friends and relatives in San Diego.
Debt is Slavery!
Younger people are not as prone to getting into the gloom/depression but the shit gets to people after awhile - just like the Northwest. Grey skies and more grey skies.
My apologies, I'm clearly not as well versed in the various forms and sources of welfare as are you ;)
I'm curious how an astute and boot-strapping right-wing Trump supporting conservative
Personally, I'd be embarrassed and ashamed to be on welfare.
. But you are educated in the adult WWF, false dichotomy, hate anyone who doesn't agree with you propaganda. Trump is a warmongering, Wall Street insider who was smart enough to see an angle into the White House. Obama was warmongering Wall Street insider who did the same. You, are an ignorant bigot who has wasted his life defending one, and hating the other, but they both took turns fucking you.
I believe he's outside of Atlanta, GA
Down with the Rednecks. Talk about a culture shock when leaving CA, right?
MrMagic says
I believe he's outside of Atlanta, GA
Down with the Rednecks. Talk about a culture shock when leaving CA, right?
The biggest culture shock was the workplace. People actually speak their mind down here without caring about stepping on someone else's toes. It's nice.
The other thing, people down here joke about skin color (my co-workers are about 50% black, 10% latino). Reality is, no one really cares what color you are - just the media - who try to race bait everyone.
no one really cares what color you are
After about a month here I've already decided I'm never going back. The one thing I didn't account for here is how much less stressful life is. When I go to the store, I don't have people constantly on top of me. There's more parking. The commute is at least five miles further than what I had in San Diego, but it takes me the same amount of time. My neighborhood is super quite, everyone is friendly, I have a yard, at least 500 more square feet, two car garage, and a pool for $300 less a month than what I paid for a 2/2 condo. And I can realistically buy a house here without going into debt for the rest of my life.
After about a month here I've already decided I'm never going back. The one thing I didn't account for here is how much less stressful life is. When I go to the store, I don't have people constantly on top of me. There's more parking. The commute is at least five miles further than what I had in San Diego, but it takes me the same amount of time. My neighborhood is super quite, everyone is friendly, I have a yard, at least 500 more square feet, two car garage, and a pool for $300 less a month than what I paid for a 2/2 condo. And I can realistically buy a house here without going into debt for the rest of my life.
Oh yeah, and I already got my daughter into a charter that is VASTLY superior to the one she attends in San Diego.
Those people you talk about don't come from California. Californians have legitimate reason to leave.
Are you in Texas?
Retirement communities are expanding is my guess.
Some people just move because they are chronically agitated and annoyed where they already live and think that the 'adventure' of moving will change things, until they become agitated and annoyed in their new environment.
but the 3 day trip to visit family in California was a deal breaker
You can always return to SD to vote there. Even citizens of Mexico can vote in California.
My wife and I have tossed around the idea of leaving Silicon Valley for quite a while.
BayArea saysMy wife and I have tossed around the idea of leaving Silicon Valley for quite a while.
Is the Bay Area your home town area? (ie, where you grew up?)
Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.
Yes, grew up in the East Bay
after all the liberals have died out from feminism
Patrick saysMaybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.
Except, you still won't be able to escape "Something", even if you hide in the bathroom with the door shut.
www.youtube.com/embed/_G_cjOipwW8
Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo. Ahora, nosotros tenemos los pollos luchar. Debito cuarenta dolares en "La Machina", el grande le aca.
California still has really incredible natural beauty in spite of everything.
Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.
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I've always preached live within your means, this is me making the hard decision and practicing it. If you rent you are always one move away from getting back on track.
Debt is Slavery!