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joshuatrio says

no one really cares what color you are

Au Contraire - one of many similar comments personally heard while facilitating training sessions in the greater Conyers area

I might have to work with "them" but I don't have to break bread with "them"

I might have to be nice to "them" at work but I don't have to spend time with "them" outside of work

The Old South has not died - it is just better hidden from view most of the time

Americans are relocating more frequently than before, here's why. On average, 47 million U.S. residents moved each year from 2012 through 2016

As the housing market continues to slow down across the country, many homeowners are relocating to housing markets that better suit their financial needs.

In fact, according to NerdWallet’s Home Buyer Survey an average 47 million U.S. residents moved each year from 2012 to 2016.

And among the 25 metros analyzed in the report, all but Chicago and New York posted a net resident increase from migration.

“There are a lot of factors to consider when trying to understand why people move to a new city, and why some from abroad look to make the United States their new home,” NerdWallet Expert Holden Lewis said. “While some of those reasons might seem obvious, like a lower cost of living or relocation for a new job, some factors may be less tied to finances, like wanting to live closer to family or in a more culturally diverse city.”

That being said, NerdWallet’s report indicates the most common factor behind homeowner migration is the request of a housing upgrade.

“More than one-third of people who had recently moved said they wanted a larger or better-quality home, according to the 2017 American Housing Survey by the Census Bureau,” NerdWallet writes. “Such upgrades don’t typically require big moves — heading down the street or into another neighborhood is often enough. But some may seek more dramatic changes and move to another state.”

For those migrating out of state, NerdWallet’s data points to affordability as the second biggest motivation for relocation.

“Even though upgrading is the most common reason people move, according to the American Housing Survey, 18% of recent movers say they left their prior residence to reduce housing costs,” NerdWallet writes.

So, what markets are these homeowners relocating to? Well, according to the analysis, Tampa and Phoenix.

These housing markets had the highest share of out-of-state new homeowners, sitting at a whopping 41%. This total even exceeds the national average of 32%.

“Often the cities that attract the most newcomers are the same places where people are forced to compete for living space,” Lewis said. “In these growing metros, if construction of affordable housing doesn’t keep pace with population growth, then rents and home prices will rise.”

And Lewis is right, as Nerdwallet revealed homeownership costs have priced out many of out-of-state newcomers, resulting in 68% settling into their new housing markets as renters.

NOTE: NerdWallet’s Home Buyer survey is based on data collected from The Harris Poll, which features the responses of 2,029 U.S. adults ranging from January 16th through 18th.

https://www.housingwire.com/articles/48687-americans-are-relocating-more-frequently-than-before-heres-why

I look at what happens to some of the old people.. They end up kicked into assisted living, etc. by family & company, etc. Thus, I continually downsize out of bigger into smaller places that fit my needs. Retirement communities are expanding is my guess.

Personally I'd rather migrate right the hell out of here to a country where people are valued.

Some people just move because they are chronically agitated and annoyed where they already live and think that the 'adventure' of moving will change things, until they become agitated and annoyed in their new environment.

After about a month here I've already decided I'm never going back. The one thing I didn't account for here is how much less stressful life is. When I go to the store, I don't have people constantly on top of me. There's more parking. The commute is at least five miles further than what I had in San Diego, but it takes me the same amount of time. My neighborhood is super quite, everyone is friendly, I have a yard, at least 500 more square feet, two car garage, and a pool for $300 less a month than what I paid for a 2/2 condo. And I can realistically buy a house here without going into debt for the rest of my life.

Oh yeah, and I already got my daughter into a charter that is VASTLY superior to the one she attends in San Diego.

Those people you talk about don't come from California. Californians have legitimate reason to leave.

NuttBoxer says

 

After about a month here I've already decided I'm never going back. The one thing I didn't account for here is how much less stressful life is. When I go to the store, I don't have people constantly on top of me. There's more parking. The commute is at least five miles further than what I had in San Diego, but it takes me the same amount of time. My neighborhood is super quite, everyone is friendly, I have a yard, at least 500 more square feet, two car garage, and a pool for $300 less a month than what I paid for a 2/2 condo. And I can realistically buy a house here without going into debt for the rest of my life.

Sounds pretty identical to our story.

Glad the move has worked out for you guys!

Are you in Texas?

NuttBoxer says

After about a month here I've already decided I'm never going back. The one thing I didn't account for here is how much less stressful life is. When I go to the store, I don't have people constantly on top of me. There's more parking. The commute is at least five miles further than what I had in San Diego, but it takes me the same amount of time. My neighborhood is super quite, everyone is friendly, I have a yard, at least 500 more square feet, two car garage, and a pool for $300 less a month than what I paid for a 2/2 condo. And I can realistically buy a house here without going into debt for the rest of my life.

Oh yeah, and I already got my daughter into a charter that is VASTLY superior to the one she attends in San Diego.

Those people you talk about don't come from California. Californians have legitimate reason to leave.

FortWayneIndiana says

Are you in Texas?

Arizona. Thought about Texas, but the 3 day trip to visit family in California was a deal breaker.

Someone asked above.

The answer is Scottsdale over SD, no question

By the way, thanks for sharing your story.

My wife and I have tossed around the idea of leaving Silicon Valley for quite a while.

Unless you got into housing at the right time, why compete so hard for so little?

everything says

Retirement communities are expanding is my guess.

Rent before buying in a 55 and over place - a cautionary warning, I did not buy in one of them and glad I didn't.

Ceffer says

Some people just move because they are chronically agitated and annoyed where they already live and think that the 'adventure' of moving will change things, until they become agitated and annoyed in their new environment.

Also referred to as a "geographic" in 12 step programs. Doesn't work for most of those that try it since the underlying problems travel with them.

NuttBoxer says

but the 3 day trip to visit family in California was a deal breaker

That would seem to be an incentive in a lot of cases - actually a 4-5 hour plane trip removed is far better and you just can't put a price on a 12 hour plus plane trip, different day and time zone..

You can always return to SD to vote there. Even citizens of Mexico can vote in California.

willywonka says

You can always return to SD to vote there. Even citizens of Mexico can vote in California.

Or put voting in your Will. Dems like to "mine" the posthumous vote.

BayArea says

My wife and I have tossed around the idea of leaving Silicon Valley for quite a while.

Is the Bay Area your home town area? (ie, where you grew up?)

B.A.C.A.H. says

BayArea says

My wife and I have tossed around the idea of leaving Silicon Valley for quite a while.

Is the Bay Area your home town area? (ie, where you grew up?)

Yes, grew up in the East Bay

1 hour of Classic San Fran Freako rant

www.youtube.com/embed/B3BpkRa2Ubg

You got to do what makes financial sense for you. I feel like CA has gone from a family friendly place, to just a place everyone trashes. bums, needles, mentally ill parades (lgbt, trannies, and other horseshit), illegals, and problems such shortage of housing and other basic needs which probably stems from insane inflow of illegals that the system fails to keep up with.

I can't fault anyone for leaving CA, like I can't fault anyone for wanting to get the fuck out of Detroit.

California still has really incredible natural beauty in spite of everything.

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Patrick says

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Except, you still won't be able to escape "Something", even if you hide in the bathroom with the door shut.

www.youtube.com/embed/_G_cjOipwW8

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo. Ahora, nosotros tenemos los pollos luchar. Debito cuarenta dolares en "La Machina", el grande le aca.

BayArea says

Yes, grew up in the East Bay

Yep. This is sad. I know more homies who left than stayed. Many more.

Patrick says

after all the liberals have died out from feminism

Won't even be missed. Privileged grad-school graduates with H-1's backfilling the void with their own kids and value systems. We're becoming an extension of Shanghai and Bombay, with a population of illegals for them to exploit.

MisterLearnToCode says

Patrick says

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Except, you still won't be able to escape "Something", even if you hide in the bathroom with the door shut.

www.youtube.com/embed/_G_cjOipwW8

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo. Ahora, nosotros tenemos los pollos luchar. Debito cuarenta dolares en "La Machina", el grande le aca.

Damn, she's cute.

Mostly I don't mind the Mexicans as people. Good families, hard workers. I just want them to come here legally and in limited numbers, or not at all. And once here legally, they should strive to become American like previous waves of immigrants did.

Everything comes and goes. Left is obsessed with promoting fag shit and feminism.

4-8 years that fetish will pass. CA will be conservative again, it will not survive otherwise. And history teaches us that liberalism leads to shit, followed by conservatism.

Patrick says

California still has really incredible natural beauty in spite of everything.

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

MisterLearnToCode says

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo.

That has been my experience trying to camp anywhere near Austin or San Antonio. Day and Night. Every. Damn. Time.

Patrick says

Damn, she's cute.

Mostly I don't mind the Mexicans as people. Good families, hard workers. I just want them to come here legally and in limited numbers, or not at all. And once here legally, they should strive to become American like previous waves of immigrants did.

Agreed, especially on the first count. My post was facetious. It's the Left Wing crowd that is the danger.

Patrick says

Mostly I don't mind the Mexicans as people. Good families, hard workers

Heard the same lines in Conyersa few years back. Some of those "good ole boys" like on the Dukes of Hazard talking about their black co-workers.

They were a bit more specific though...

Wouldn't want one to marry into the family

Wouldn't marry one themselves

Wouldn't want to break bread with them or hang out with them after work

But other than that they were okay with "them", hell they might even share the lunch room with "them peoples".

just_dregalicious says

MisterLearnToCode says

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo.

That has been my experience trying to camp anywhere near Austin or San Antonio. Day and Night. Every. Damn. Time.

My last few camping trips in CA have included neighbors having all night fiestas.

BayArea says

My last few camping trips in CA have included neighbors having all night fiestas.

I’ve experienced that as well, but only at the State Parks campgrounds. Go to a private campground or KOA and you will have a much better experience. I know the State locked up the best locations, but there are some really nice ones in private hands!
Best experience hands down was Ventana in Big Sur. Shady grounds with large spaces plenty of room, nice bathrooms and showers, surrounded by massive redwoods, and you can have campfires. Very relaxing, and only 3 miles from Pfieffer Beach with the purple sand!

BayArea says

just_dregalicious says

MisterLearnToCode says

Ese, it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo.

That has been my experience trying to camp anywhere near Austin or San Antonio. Day and Night. Every. Damn. Time.

My last few camping trips in CA have included neighbors having all night fiestas.

Don't forget the diapers, trash, and graffiti. Anything that is free or cheep, or near city gets trashed by them.

HonkpilledMaster says

it's 3AM, the fiesta no silencio, amigo.

That's why there is a siesta. The night is there to party. You just need your afternoon nap. Same in Spain.

Patrick says

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Really? How many kids you have? It will be Mexican, and that's that.

Heraclitusstudent says

Patrick says

Maybe after all the liberals have died out from feminism, it will once again become a good place to raise a family and stay long term.

Really? How many kids you have? It will be Mexican, and that's that.

Mexicans will def be more conservative than leftoids and reign back in the wildebeest feminazi womyn currently damaging society. In fact most other cultures are more conservative than the current white white west under the leftoid kybosh of tranny-feminazy-lgbtqq+-1234xyz freakism.

Celebrated the 4th with my family and parents who are in town. Cooked and ate outside with high around 105, sitting under a fan. Yes, in Phoenix an outside fan and covered porch are standard. Was a bit warm, but not too bad. I guess that's what they mean by dry heat. Also set off some fireworks which are legal in Arizona. They only allow fountains, but when the fountain is the size of your head, it packs a punch. Brought back memories of when we used to light m80's in Michigan. Good times!