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102854   HeadSet   2019 May 20, 7:54pm  

Am I the only who looked at the summary of why each of those people were indicted, and thought "gee, most of these indictments are BS desperate attempts to prosecute them for anything they could, so they could squeeze them into squealing on others"

This harassment of Trump's family. friends, and business associates is also a warning to Mark Cuban, Starbucks Schwartz, and any other businessperson who would dare run for President.
102855   Shaman   2019 May 20, 8:03pm  

Trump may have been the only person able to withstand the absolute wall of shit the establishment has thrown at him for the crime of daring to oppose them. Anyone less bumptious or less wealthy or less of a narcissist would have buckled by now. You’ve got to admire the sheer fortitude of the man who can tell all the actors, politicians, and public figures that they’re LOSERS when they all come after him.
That kind of self-image is kind of impressive.
102856   HeadSet   2019 May 20, 8:07pm  

Quigley says
Trump may have been the only person able to withstand the absolute wall of shit the establishment has thrown at him for the crime of daring to oppose them. Anyone less bumptious or less wealthy or less of a narcissist would have buckled by now. You’ve got to admire the sheer fortitude of the man who can tell all the actors, politicians, and public figures that they’re LOSERS when they all come after him.
That kind of self-image is kind of impressive.


It also takes a lot of intelligence, both the analytical type and the type that allows one to read human nature.
102857   RWSGFY   2019 May 20, 9:36pm  

All of them!
102858   Ceffer   2019 May 20, 10:19pm  

Just give everybody in the video their rainbow teddy bears and pacifiers, and promise them lots and lots of free shit, and they will all feel better.
102859   Entitlemented   2019 May 20, 11:04pm  

https://carnegieendowment.org/2018/12/10/how-trade-did-and-did-not-account-for-manufacturing-job-losses-pub-77794

Believe that your have many of the effects correct, but you miss the main cause.
102861   Goran_K   2019 May 21, 8:36am  

This thread

102862   Bd6r   2019 May 21, 8:54am  

Returning to OP and being serious for a second - while I am no supporter of t-RUMP, it would be interesting to hear what mechanism will be used to establish a dictatorship, and how someone who is a "fucking idiot" according to the Left, can pull off dictatorship in this country. It seems being an idiot precludes possibility of becoming a dictator...

I bet $250 that we will not have a dictatorship. Instead, if economy crashes before elections, Trump will be removed from office in elections and will go away ferociously tweeting nonsense; if economy does not crash, he will be re-elected and will just continue governing in the style we see now, and will peacefully go away in 2024.
102863   Tenpoundbass   2019 May 21, 8:55am  

Can a Liberal explain to me why Maduro's dictatorship is fine, but you don't want it here in America?

I thought we love our dear Dictators, we give them Pallets of cash in Iran, we protect them in Venezuela while Commies fire warning shots from Congress to Trump not to tuck with them.

What up Widat!?
102864   Bd6r   2019 May 21, 8:57am  

Tim Aurora says
You need to install a Trump statue and rename him as a Greek God

I already have golden statue of our PLENIPOTENTIARY! in my yard! When t-RUMP seizes all power that rightly belongs to him and declares himself to be a FÜHRER of UNIVERSE, I will not be executed for treason!
102865   Ceffer   2019 May 21, 11:16am  

When will Trump abolish the Thirteenth Amendment, and start distributing sex slave illegals to the righteous men of the just and noble Republican Party?
102866   Goran_K   2019 May 21, 11:35am  

lol

102867   WookieMan   2019 May 21, 3:48pm  

d6rB says
it would be interesting to hear what mechanism will be used to establish a dictatorship, and how someone who is a "fucking idiot" according to the Left, can pull off dictatorship in this country. It seems being an idiot precludes possibility of becoming a dictator...


I actually drafted a similar comment last night and never finished. This is spot on. Take into account that even most Republicans congress critters can't stand him. He'd be impeached in 2 seconds if it looked like he was taking the dictator route. While your average Joe in the military doesn't want to get shot at, the military brass are in all reality not happy we haven't gotten into another conflict. So I'd be surprised if they'd back him, which would 100% HAVE to happen for this scenario to play out.

People can "think" about it (dictatorship) happening all they want. But the reality is that is never will. My opinion is that the ONLY way America ever has a president turned dictator is if we are attacked here, in America and there are mass civilian casualties. That ain't happening with our natural defenses outside of nuclear war and we all know how that ends.
102868   Bd6r   2019 May 21, 4:15pm  

WookieMan says
Take into account that even most Republicans congress critters can't stand him. He'd be impeached in 2 seconds if it looked like he was taking the dictator route. While your average Joe in the military doesn't want to get shot at, the military brass are in all reality not happy we haven't gotten into another conflict. So I'd be surprised if they'd back him, which would 100% HAVE to happen for this scenario to play out.

All this "dictatorship" and "Russians" and "IMPEACH!" stuff is either consequence of butthurt Left because t-RUMP "stole" election from a highly qualified, and extremely deserving womyn Hillary, or attempts to rile up D base so they would go and vote. I am not sure which is the correct explanation, may be both. Or may be a smokescreen behind which politicians can keep looting while population argues about stupid stuff. Last one seems possible because investigations have not found anything of consequence in NY REALTOR (TM) activities in mob-infested 80's, which seems impossible.
102869   Shaman   2019 May 21, 4:22pm  

Agreed, in a matchup between Golden Don and Simple Joe, the Democrat is gonna get creamed. No way people want to risk another Yuuuge Recession by electing a bumbling idiot. Especially now that The Donald has proven he can crank the economy up to 11 while keeping the peace with world enemies and standing strong for American interests. Oh and also protecting our Constitution instead of trying to find ways to eliminate it in order to implement a Progressive Utopia (TM).
Trump is doing just fine, perhaps even great in all the metrics that actually affect the lives of regular working Americans. They’d have to go full retard to elect Simple Joe.
102870   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 May 21, 4:37pm  

Fake News, hell not even news, just a dumb opinion of dumb sexually confused liberal.

Biggest thread to liberals is liberalism and gay plague.
102871   Bd6r   2019 May 21, 4:39pm  

FortWayneIndiana says
Fake News


Agreed - very selective interpretation. For example, according to the data from the article (ADL heat map), this counts as "right wing extremist murder". Apparently right wing extremists murder their own family members for racial or extremist reasons. They are grasping at straws to find more right-wing murders

Extremist Murder
7/27/2018
Robstown, TX
Right Wing (White Supremacist)
Richard Starry, 61, shot and killed four people who were family members or family connections in two locations before killing himself. According to a media source, Starry, who had an extensive criminal record, had belonged to a white supremacist group while in prison.
102872   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 21, 5:43pm  

Did Farron point out that MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, etc. spent the entire Presidency of Obama carrying his water? Or the entire Trump Presidency bashing him?

That the Honeymoon Period afforded every President, in a dire and dark break with Tradition and Precedence, was even denied Trump?

It's entertaining that the Left ignores the fact that 90% of Print, Radio, and Television Media in Existence is 92% Negative on Trump.

That's not including Social Media controlled by Democrat Fanatic Big Tech.

Par for the course for the Authoritarian Left. They ignore that 90% of Media is under their total control, and blame the 10% they don't totally control for all their problems in convincing people that shit isn't shit.

The other funny thing is that the Left IS the Establishment, but still think they're revolutionaries, which is most entertaining when talking to college students parroting their Teachers, Professors, Deans, and the majority of the Media Outlet's Official Opinion and acting like they're all rebels for justice and shit.
102873   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 21, 6:00pm  

The ADL is a biased source since it's now run by an Ex-Obama WH Special Advisor Jonathan Greenblatt.

It used to be run by the Centrist Foxman until 2015.
102874   Tenpoundbass   2019 May 21, 6:45pm  

Sorry guys, nobody at the IRS wants to own up to it, in fact it has "DRAFT" stamped on it.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/05/leak-irs-mystery-memo-says-trump-must-give-tax-docs-to-congress-unless-he-asserts-executive-privilege/
A confidential IRS draft memo says President Trump must turn over his tax documents to Congress… unless he invokes executive privilege.

A copy of the 10-page memo, which was obtained by the Washington Post, says the disclosure of tax returns to the committee “is mandatory, requiring the Secretary to disclose returns, and return information, requested by the tax-writing Chairs.”

The memo was reportedly penned by a lawyer in the Office of Chief Counsel several months ago and did not represent the agency’s “official position.”


The mystery memo is stamped “DRAFT,” does not reference Trump and it wasn’t even signed.

The author of the memo is unknown and IRS Chief Rettig and chief counsel Michael Desmond weren’t even aware of it until the Washington Post reached out to them for comment.

According to the Post, the IRS says the memo was never even forwarded to the Treasury.

Secretary Mnuchin told Democrats that he’s ready to take the battle for Trump tax returns to court and now all of a sudden this mystery memo, written by a mystery lawyer surfaces in a leak to the Washington Post that argues Congress has the authority to access tax returns. How convenient.
102875   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 21, 9:52pm  

Quote of the day capturing the Democrats' position on obstruction: "While we recognize that the man did not actually steal any horses, he is obviously guilty of trying to resist being hanged for it."

— David Horowitz (@horowitz39) May 21, 2019

102876   marcus   2019 May 21, 9:57pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
Quote of the day capturing the Democrats' position on obstruction: "While we recognize that the man did not actually steal any horses, he is obviously guilty of trying to resist being hanged for it."


SO stupid.

If you're innocent of stealing horses, you don't obstruct investigators from confirming your innocence.

Oh, I almost forgot. Truth and facts and people that write truthful fact based stories that reflect negatively on TRump are part of a left wing conspiracy. THose libtards are given way too much attention for their purely subjective point of view of Trump. IT's not fair. IT can't be that Trump actually is despicable. How could that possibly be objectively true ?
It couldn't be true, right ?

And if it were, what would it say about all the people that voted for him ?

That is the reason it can't be true.
102877   REpro   2019 May 21, 10:06pm  

Only person easy to be controlled FIT the President position.
102878   marcus   2019 May 21, 10:08pm  

jazz_music says
TRUMP UNFIT IS UNDENIABLE NOW


So you're saying it was deniable before ?
102879   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 21, 10:10pm  

marcus says
If you're innocent of stealing horses, you don't obstruct investigators from confirming your innocence.


Did Mueller find any indictable evidence of obstruction and make recommendations?
102880   WookieMan   2019 May 22, 3:05am  

HonkpilledMaster says
marcus says
If you're innocent of stealing horses, you don't obstruct investigators from confirming your innocence.


Did Mueller find any indictable evidence of obstruction and make recommendations?


Has Mueller? Has the news media? Has another foreign country knowing it could cause our political system to go into turmoil?

There are more parties/persons trying to find dirt, probably more than any politician in the history of the world and what..... a big fat nothing.

People can keep wasting their time stomping their feet over Trump or enjoy life. The almost 3 year temper tantrum can stop at some point. And I'm not saying give Trump carte blanche to do what he pleases and not keep an eye on him, but this is making a lot of people look delusional from someone that rests fairly in the middle of the political spectrum.

I didn't vote for him in 2016 and I'm not dead set on voting for him in 2020. Things seem good, but I want to give more time to see how these tax cuts play out given we just went through our first tax season with them.

Serious question for y'all that aren't happy. Are you still going to be upset and saying the exact same stuff in 2021 if he gets reelected? Or are you going to realize that after 5-6 years he's just a horny loudmouth that the country wants as president?
102881   fdhfoiehfeoi   2019 May 22, 1:01pm  

Have you every heard of Crony Capitalism?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism
102882   BigFrank   2019 May 22, 3:55pm  

Tee. Dee. Ess!!!!
102883   BigFrank   2019 May 22, 3:56pm  

If we pretend that this didn't happen, and focus instead on important things like chiding Liberals, will that make it go away?

Asking for a friend
102884   BigFrank   2019 May 22, 3:57pm  

Fake News!!! Trump is above reproach! Republicans are NEVER TO BE CRITICIZED!!!

Focus all your energy on SJW's and Liberals, because AMERICA! HATES! FREEDOM! and LIBERTY!!
102886   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 23, 1:02am  

THE CHARGES AGAINST AVENATTI
CALIFORNIA


10 counts of wire fraud

Avenatti allegedly committed wire fraud by lying to five clients about their settlements from cases he represented them in.

The total sum of the money he allegedly misappropriated is $12million.

He is accused of not only hiding their payments from them but spending the money himself on private planes, repaying the IRS and funding his own businesses between 2015 and 2017.

19 counts of tax fraud

Avenatti has not filed personal income tax returns since 2010, it is claimed.

Between 2015 and 2017, his coffee company Global Baristas US, did not pay $3.2million in federal payroll taxes.

More than $2million of that figure was withheld from staff pay checks and spent by Avenatti himself, it is alleged.

2 counts of bank fraud

The two bank fraud charges relate to the original indictment and claims he submitted bogus financial information to obtain three loans totaling $4.1 million from The People's Bank in Mississippi.

The bogus information included a tax return that had never been sent to the IRS and him overstating his law firm's resources when it was on the brink of bankruptcy.

One said his firm, Eagan Avenatti, had more than $500,000 in an operating account when it only had $43,000, it is claimed.

4 counts bankruptcy fraud

Three of the bankruptcy fraud charges allege that Avenatti submitted, under penalty of perjury, monthly operating reports that failed to report all of the firm's accounts receivable in 2017.

Avenatti is charged with falsely testifying under oath during a June 2017 bankruptcy hearing by denying the firm had received any fees related to a lawsuit when Eagan Avenatti had actually received more than $1.3 million

New York case 1

Conspiracy to commit extortion


Avenatti allegedly attempted to extort Nike by saying he had information which incriminated it in a pay-for-play college basketball scandal this year.

He allegedly told the company that he would conduct an internal investigation for a $25million fee instead of exposing it.

Nike reported him.

New York case 2

Charged with misappropriating funds belonging to the ex adult film star Stormy Daniels to the tune of nearly $300,000.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7060961/Michael-Avenatti-admits-flew-close-sun-epic-fall-grace.html
102887   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 May 23, 1:03am  

But muh Trump! Russia! Possible Collusion!
102888   Ceffer   2019 May 23, 1:43am  

Tee Hee! Avenatti, the EveryReady Bunny Sociopath, he never stops. This is true of some sociopaths who are a bit frontal lobe impaired. They lie to so many people and generate so many incidents, they create a Gordian knot of cascading WTF's that can be impossible to untangle in any meaningful way. I guess he's in the right profession.
102889   Ceffer   2019 May 23, 2:05am  

This was Trump's fault, too? IMPEACH TRUMP!
102890   Shaman   2019 May 23, 4:47am  

He’s going to prison now. He tried to send Trump there, and is going to wind up doing quite a bit of hard time. Maybe the next Dem POTUS will pardon him for “services rendered?”
Might be a while on that tho. Trump’s got another five and a half years, and then we might get lucky again. Leftists are on the wane lately, and another Trump Republican might be just the ticket.
102891   clambo   2019 May 23, 6:17am  

I can answer you; I lived in Mexico before coming to California; they think the USA is crazy but they love it.

In Mexico they say "If you don't work, you don't eat." They've heard of food stamps and etc and can't believe it even exists.

Many believe that Mexico's poverty is caused by the USA somehow; politicians of the ruling PRI party repeated this crap for 71 years of their rule.

Mexican single mothers illegally in the USA feel the same way American single mothers do; "society owes me help to support my child."
102892   HeadSet   2019 May 23, 7:23am  

abuse of working people.

This is funny from one who fights Trumps efforts to curb unfettered illegal immigration and fights Trumps efforts to tariff a low wage high polluting China. Both unfettered illegal immigration and outsourcing to slave wage China hurt American working people.
102893   Tenpoundbass   2019 May 23, 7:29am  

You can't buy bread this dense.

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