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jazz_music says

No, that's not how the hillary card is played.

It's played when some confused leftist starts spouting on, making Trump accusations, and attacking your character, accusing you of supporting a politician who is (corrupt / liar / swampy / etc...). That's when you remind them that they LOVE corrupt hillary, who has been objectively proven of crimes for a long time.

I love educating lefties of their double standards.

Their reaction when they realize you're right is well characterized by these 4 stages:

Patrick says

ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

Liberals are systematically suppressing US wages for poor citizens by importing literally millions of Mexicans and demanding that everyone accept it or be called "racist".

It's only about MONEY and liberals are sucking corporate cock for MONEY.

Yep! Obama didn't want to raise wages, he simply said the manufacturing jobs weren't coming back, suck up your $8/hr no benefit Chinese Crap Warehouse job instead.

The Dems can't treat the Rustbelt White Working Class like Hood rats.

They don't want free Obamaphones, shitty "Free" Healthcare, and other free peanuts that Zoo Apes like thrown at them, they want jobs and to be self--supporting and eventually have a house of their own that they own. Not a subsidized HUD apartment rental with a pool like AOC is offering.

richwicks says

Greta Thunberg, a 16 year old child, is now the icon of this. I'm certainly no scientist, but I'm well aware of propaganda techniques because that's my hobby. The "child hero" is a common propaganda method used by both fascist and communist nations. A child is used, because criticism of their statements will make you appear cruel to a child, and child can sincerely believe anything. Go watch her speech and notice the UN CLAPS after her presentation after she denounces them and tells them they have ruined the world because of their inaction and empty rhetoric for decades. Why would they clap at that? She just called them incompetent do-nothing selfish liars - yet they applaud her. A 16 year old know nothing who apparently believes, sincerely, the world is going to end in a decade. Why is the UN clapping? "Yeah, this 16 year old snot is right! We are a bunch of useless assholes!!!"

Right on.

richwicks says

16 year old know nothing
...
this 16 year old snot

This guy flashed a Trump 2020 shirt during a socialist party rally in Spain

@Hircus, where do you get these embeds? AWESOME.

lol I just made a handful of clips of Greta's speech one day. And then a few from some Boney M songs.

I convert youtube to mp3 via https://ytmp3.cc/
and then I cut the file up via ffmpeg:

ffmpeg -y -i greta-whine-full.mp3 -ss 00:04:39.150 -to 00:04:42.100 -c copy -codec:a libmp3lame -qscale:a 2 clips/how-dare-joo.mp3

I've been uploading them to https://vocaroo.com/?upload for lack of a better free hosting solution. I should prob find a better place.

For some of the smaller clips I just embedded the audio via data urls like:

<?php
$mp3File = 'how-dare-joo.mp3';
printf('<video controls> <!-- %s --> <source src="data:audio/mp3;base64,%s" type="audio/mp3"></video>', $mp3File, base64_encode(file_get_contents($mp3File)));


There's also https://ytcutter.com/ which is awesome for making a clip real quick, but it has a bug and sometimes the start / end points aren't accurate - they seem to differ depending on which player use to listen to the clip with (as odd as that sounds).

Thanks Hircus!

marcus says

Your insistence on this after we've looked at it before is the ultimate example of the pathological dishonesty required to be a TRump Cuck. No better than Trump himself.

Marcus, the Golden Child said the jobs were never coming back. We've seen almost half a million of them come roaring back in just 21 months.

You did not address the huge role that Trump's Regulatory Rollback played in bringing jobs back, as well as reciprocal and putative tariffs on dishonest trade partners.

The fact is that almost 3 years into the Trump Presidency, the job growth and economic growth has been vastly superior to that of the Obama Administration.

Had 2009 and beyond been an ordinary recovery, the job gains and the growth should back been front loaded, not end loaded. That is, the biggest gains and growth should have been seen around 2011-2013, not in 2017-2019.

NASA! SCIENTISTS! SATELLITE! DATA!

6 degree DROPS! IN TEMPS! SOOT THE POLES NOW!

marcus says

You prove Obama to probably be correct. He didn't say it would never increase again. He said it wasn't coming back. Bama is a wonk, so he understands all to well that automation destroyed more American manufacturing jobs than exporting manufacturing jobs did.

Obama said they were NEVER coming back, Marcus. That's not "They might come back for a while, then go away again".

Obama is not a wonk, he was a goddamned Community Organizer and probably somebody's Operative.

NoCoupForYou says

goddamned Community Organizer

And a toady of Saul-Patron Saint of Losers-Alinsky

marcus says

Want to absolutely guarantee more Trump voters?

That will do it.

marcus says

Now you want me to be your bitch and just accept it ?

Woah, where did that come from.

Just saying that you won't convert anyone to your point of view by insulting them.

How about getting back to the business of representing the working class rather than representing only tech billionaires and gays?

marcus says

I agree. But Trump has in my view been more anti working class than any democrat would have been.

You don't know a single person in the working class do you, much less talk to them?

You can say Obama lies too("you can keep your doctor"), but it's nothing like the same.

No, he led us into the Syrian and Libyan wars. You don't know, because you don't fight these wars and don't know anybody that does.

marcus says

:
I mostly associate with working class people. And I consider myself working class.

Really? What do you do?

One of my friends painted cabinets. He had to compete against illegal immigrants for the same job. He dropped out of high school in 11th grade. He had to take money under the table because that's how illegal immigrants get paid and his boss couldn't otherwise hire him.

He was very fearful that if he was caught, he was going to go to jail for tax evasion. The illegals they just disappear.

That's the situation for working class. You have NO FUCKING IDEA about this group.

marcus says

Do you ever get tired of these fictions?

Go to Flint Michigan and talk to some people there. The vast majority of people are apolitical. They have no faith in the system.

marcus says

Patrick says

How about getting back to the business of representing the working class rather than representing only tech billionaires and gays?

I agree. But Trump has in my view been more anti working class than any democrat would have been.

Reality disagrees. Working class doing much better with trump, not even close

marcus says

But I know you buy Trumps con, and resell it here on a regular basis.

Which con? Be specific.

Ambiguous memes cant be debated. pure emotion void of facts seems to be what you are going for.

marcus says

I find the idea that science will never be able to make inferences form data, or that conclusions will always be based on someones agenda, not only ridiculously cynical, it's also just outright stupid.

Their models are wrong too!