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The Probe! They want to get Trump into a closed room without witnesses or representatives and let IHLlary have her way with him with her collection of barbed wire knobby strap ons.

Tim and Walter

Why do you think the president should be impeached? Give us an honest response. Not feelings, actual facts.

WaltertheoFlanders says

Do you really think anyone at this site has actual facts. There will be a public hearing, at that point we can discuss your question. Tell me why we should not have an impeachment inquiry?

Exactly, what facts? Everyone is pushing for an impeachment with NO facts. Our government is there to serve us. If there are facts with Trump that should be disclosed, well fucking disclose them already. No one is going to or should be behind an impeachment without some evidence of wrong doing made public. You know there are no legitimate facts and so does the Democratic party. They have nothing, so they aren't saying anything. It's frankly embarrassing. Come out and say Trump did X, Y and Z. There's none of that going on.

I'll be the first one to say Trump should go IF they find a fucking thing. To date they haven't. There's no evidence of anything. Nothing. And you answered the question exactly as I predicted. Fine, don't like Trump. You can't just impeach someone because you lost or your feelings are hurt by his rhetoric.

Left does not control their racist minorities well, they constantly parade them screaming "fuck white people" on CNN and other media outlets. They constantly promote them.

Yes there is danger to letting fringe leftists come to power, and I sure as hell don't want to be under their contorl where they will take from me to give to illegals, minorities, and anyone who they feel on the left needs to be given from my pocket.

Tim Aurora says

Found this on the internet

I'd suggest stop finding things on the internet. What criminal act has Trump committed as POTUS?

I'm an independent and everything the left throws at the right is pure hyperbole with no backing data. I'm sure you'll call him a Russian spy/troll, but NoCoup comes with links and information. The left here just "says" Trump did something illegal. That doesn't make it true because you type or say it. And if you found that paragraph/statement on the internet, why not link it? I think because deep down you know it's bull shit and you just don't like Trump. Am I right?

Tim Aurora says

There is enough evidence that Trump pressured a dependent foreign Govt for his own political gain.

What political gain? Seriously? Biden is/was a former government official. It's completely legal to investigate him. It's also completely legal to withhold tax payer money from a foreign government if you want them to do something. Biden isn't running for POTUS yet, so Trump has interfered in nothing to date. Is Biden above the law because he is trying to be some party's nominee? There's a distinction there that the left/dems continually just skim over. Words matter.

Not one person here wanting impeachment has answered the question truthfully. What information is Trump being impeached on? You don't know and the Democrats don't either. Stop with this Biden thing. It's a non-issue and is not valid grounds for impeachment. So what is it? I think it's hurt feelings. And if they vote for impeachment and send it to the senate, I fear our country is fucked. Stupidity has no bounds I guess.

Again, time and again, Trump has called foreign governments to investigate and hurt his political opponents

Name them please. This sounds like a pushed false narrative.

And, because he didn't do anything wrong, is not an acceptable answer because this IS the process to find out if he did anything wrong.

That is what is know as a "fishing expedition."

At least the Dems were shamed into having a vote. Next, shamed into putting it in the judiciary committee and giving subpoena power to the minority.

Just like nadler insisted Clinton got. And received without much Ado

At least the Dems were shamed into having a vote. Next, shamed into putting it in the judiciary committee and giving subpoena power to the minority. Oh, and Presidents counsel present.

Just like nadler insisted Clinton got. And received without much Ado. Nixon also

Tim Aurora says

The anger they hold is deep and growing worse every day.

Yeah, TDS will do that to you.

WookieMan says

I'm sure you'll call him a Russian spy/troll, but NoCoup comes with links and

Ukrainian troll.

Russian bot/troll is so 2018

Tim Aurora says

live surrounded by members of the Trump/GOP Cult, including members of my own family.

They also don't accept my higher learning and intellectual achievements with my PhD in film studies, which I completed with my thesis on Gender Play in 1970s Alpha France
titles, concentrating in problematic gender roles in Rx for Sex. With LaHayes character in particular.

My dad and brother act as if their 35 years of pipefitting and bachelor's in engineering is superior to my job as freelance writer on huffpo and my part time contract job teaching Cinema 101 and Humperdinck Community College, even though I have a terminal degree.

WaltertheoFlanders says

There will be a public hearing, at that point we can discuss your question. Tell me why we should not have an impeachment inquiry? And, because he didn't do anything wrong, is not an acceptable answer because this IS the process to find out if he did anything wrong.

Guilty until proven innocent!

What do you THINK he did wrong? What high crime or misdemeanor do you THINK he is not innocent of?

Tim Aurora says

There is enough evidence that Trump pressured a dependent foreign Govt for his own political gain.

There is solid video evidence that Biden pressured a dependent foreign Govt for his own financial gain. Which is worse?

Now you know why Democrats will lose 2020. Stupid is what stupid does.

Tim Aurora says

then it should become a precedent and norm and tomorrow Democrats should be allowed to do that.

You're joking, right? They did do that. Hillary and company in 2016. Everyone does it. It's a problem now for some reason? Impeachable?

People need to open their eyes. Trump is flawed in many ways, but he's opening the curtain behind the bureaucracy and political bull shit that's gone on far too long. He knows the game. He played it via donations and greasing the wheels of politics to get his real estate deals done in the past. The average American doesn't understand this at all and has a completely uneducated opinion about how the system works. If you haven't done work in high level government either on the public side or private, you'll never understand. It's just Trump is bad.

I don't like Trump, but I bet in 6-8 years you'll be singing his praises or will have vanished from this site.

Tim Aurora says

WookieMan says

They did do that. Hillary and company in 2016

Which government did Hillary ask to probe Trump. ( understand the word Govt not individuals)

OUR OWN GOVERNMENT FOR CHRIST SAKE!!!!! This has to be sarcasm.

There's a reason I avoided political threads here for so long. Blind loyalty. Our populous has been so dumbed down it's scary. Enjoy the impeachment. Not one person here advocating for it understands a god damn thing about it.

HEYYOU says

5 time draft dodging

What boomer didn't try this? Generation of cowards. Sorry.
HEYYOU says

multiple adulterer,sexual pervert.

You've just described 50% of the human race. lol.
HEYYOU says

Hope their daughters' & granddaughters' little pussies get grabbed.

They probably will and they'll probably like it or want it. Again, human nature.
HEYYOU says

Just received my property tax bill increased by you God Damn Republicans.

Highly unlikely. Republicans are dishonest, but at the local level they generally stick to low taxes. If you're talking about SALT deductions, that's on your state as a whole and likely not Republicans.

I don’t want Americans replaced by foreigners. 100% against outsourcing, no matter excuse.

Tim Aurora says

Fortwaynemobile says

Replacing Americans with illegals and H1Bs for profit is the biggest game.

It is up to Americans to decide if they want highly skilled here or the highly skilled Jobs to to other countries. I have no preference either way. Canada and Australia are going to benefit from that.

jazz_music says

STOP CHASING AWAY COMMENTERS

You're still here. That is a good sign. The cognitive dissonance between real facts and what you hear on wherever you get your "facts" from will hopefully drive you to question why Trump has unhinged you and made you so angry. I really do think you have some good ideas and I have liked it when you say sensible things.

I just don't understand why people suffer from TDS. Ten years ago Trump was a popular icon among people of all races, colors, and creeds. I thought he was a reality show clown. Again, I did not vote for him, I voted against Hillary. If the democrats come up with a good candidate that has the interest of AMERICA and its core values of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness I will vote for they. If they keep offering candidates full of hate and socialism, they'll lose.

#sendthemback

jazz_music says

This TDS comment ads no value and betrays a narcissistic tactic of abuse as if the commentor has authority to diagnose when you don’t.

What does Trumptard mean?

What has been happening, really since the 60s, is that the Left takes the alleged "moral highground" under the guise of Tolerance, and either scolds or shreiks until it gets what it wants.
Each time, they only want "Don't ask, don't tell" or a "Meritocracy jump started by limited affirmative action hiring and recruiting".
As soon as they get that, it's on to "Civil Partnership and neutrality on gays in the military? NOT ENOUGH BIGOT, FULL MARRIAGE EQUITY NOW! And Wax muh Balls, Cis Scum! And you can't exempt your kids from the Drag Queen Gender Bender part of the K-12 Curriculum!" or "End Toxic Masculinity and Whiteness"

The normal thing was for some bowtied mild mannered conservative to say "Tsk, tsk, let us go slow." in the face of "STOP OPPRESSION NOW, YOU BIGOT!"

What is happening is that people woke up and realized not only is normal behavior frowned upon and the wisdom of millenia actively opposed by powerful institutions, but the Left wants everybody grinding flour by hand mill and sweltering when the solar panels can't keep the AC on.

And they're pissed, and they're slapping back, for the time time. They've realized that putting up process obstacles on everything from Abortion to Zoophilia doesn't work.
They've realized the goal of the alleged oppressed isn't Tolerance, but Marcusian Fake Tolerance, aka Censorship, aka the "Oppressed" becoming the "Oppressor"
The "Oppressed" oppose all that is good an successful, from Monogamous Two-Parent Families to the Literal Concept of Time and Punctuality as "Oppressive Whiteness"
We've got to turn the car around instead of trying to keep the foot on the ever more worn out brake pedals.

Patton noted that nobody won a war by defending; Conservatives cannot slow down the crazy train, they have to flip the switch so the Train goes back to Happy Town.

The darkest secret in US Life is that the #1 Cause of abused children, underperformance in school and life, laziness, etc. are Single Mother households. Many are starting to become aware, despite the desperation of left-dominated sociology to underplay that and instead emphasize racial or class disparity.

The George Will / Compassionate Conservative era is over. The era of Trumpian Slap Back has begun.

Question Libtard Authority. It starts by making sure every Leftist is confronted with Baltimore and Chicago and NOLA as the cesspits they are BECAUSE of Leftist Policy.

And the Left can't stand being on the defensive.

NoCoupForYou says

What does Trumptard mean?

NoCoupForYou says

Question Libtard Authority.

Trumptard is the opposite of libtard. Both describe someone who blindly supports their side regardless of facts. I don't think either of these groups post here.

Everyone has something to offer. If we can kindly change minds or let our minds be changed we can change the world from this greedy, polluted, corrupt, state back into something like it was meant to be. I don't hate anyone willing to debate me, but I will mock you if you get ridiculous.

Tim Aurora says

I hope to be right on Trump.

Which Dem Candidate would you support for prez?

Tim Aurora says

Trump was always a bullshitters.

Agreed.

I especially like that time he took out vince mcmahon.

www.youtube.com/embed/ZEDP5-O9MZI

I'm still not certain it's not all theatre. I just didn't want to go through the Hillary horror show.

WaltertheoFlanders says

Which is ok, the problem is when one asks a foreign government. Is the United States a foreign government? Did you not understand the difference?

It's exponentially more dangerous to us for our OWN government's intelligence assets to be used against someone ACTUALLY running for POTUS. Do you not understand the difference?

WTF? Twighlight zone... Like the fucking Ukraine or Russia have a fraction of a percentage of intelligence that the US does. And it was weaponized and used against a person running for POTUS. This is 100% undeniable. The actions of Hillary and her cohorts making up complete bull shit to abuse the FISA courts is 100% the worsts threat that has occurred in recent history in the US.

You don't have to like Trump. I'm personally not that fond of him, but so far not one of his policies have hurt me too much. I'm one of the weird one's that didn't actually get a tax cut, while most did (SALT cap). But feelings shouldn't dictate that maybe 1/3 of the country has a 3 year temper tantrum and continually makes up completely bogus and bull shit stuff to try and out a sitting President. I'm waiting for the next charge that he jaywalked..... ahhhhhhhhh impeach.... Jesus

Tim Aurora says

Found this on the internet

I live surrounded by members of the Trump/GOP Cult, including members of my own family.
And what I Understand is that Nothing, No Facts, No Irrefutable Truths, no acts of Undeniable Criminality or Ethical Failings shall deter them from their worship of the Organized Crime Boss living in the White House.
It's not about Trump the Man to them, it's much bigger. They have with the Trump Era an opportunity to express their resentment to Change and Modernization and to reject our growing Multi Cultural society where women are equals and white "privilege" is no longer automatic.
And all attempts to reign in Trumps criminal impulses is a direct threat to their sense of self and place in society.
The anger they hold is deep and growing worse every day. And it's that unbridled anger that Frightens GOP Lawmakers that are not "true believers".
Only the People can change this. The last best chance to save our Democracy will be next November. If Tr...

We can all find stupid on the internet. Why post something this delusional here?

WaltertheoFlanders says

Nancy P is doing a great job. What exactly are you trying to say that she isn't doing right

Well the budgets she’s delivered for signing sure are heavy on the deficit! Or were you planning to blame all that on Trump?

You are willing to pay for a more sturdy wall?

I thought you Democrat’s cried crocodile tears over this fence.

WaltertheoFlanders says

What a fucking waste. This illustrates why I don't believe our realtor in Chief.

So the wall is worse than our previous protection then? Interesting... I appreciate you being honest about open borders at least.

Illegal immigration is not a victimless crime. I suppose we should legalize rape next... Sure it's a leap, but not wanting to stop what is probably our largest security threat and threat to citizen's well being (jobs and physical well being) is pretty important in my book. But hey, we put something in place to slow 'em down and that's a bad thing all a sudden? Something Democrats are all a sudden flipping opinions on. Jesus....

WaltertheoFlanders says

we should come up with a more 21 century way to protect the border

Great idea! We can add sensors and cameras to the wall and then dispatch reaper drones.

Booger says

Nice summary.

WaltertheoFlanders says

It's funny you tried to make an account acting like you aren't a tRump supporter but you have been taken by all their conspiracy theories.

Lol. Yup, made my account in 2012 (after 4 years of lurking) because I'm a Trump supporter. I've been waiting years for this to happen and now it's my time to shine!!!!

I'm glad you're okay with our own government investigating a presidential candidate. The fact that doesn't scare you is alarming. A slimy career politician made an attempt to knock someone out of a race by using our own government against Trump. This whole Ukraine thing (Trump or Biden) is a fucking joke and has zero bearing on the future of our country. Until Trump goes after the Democrat that is ACTUALLY running for President, this all is a pity party from losers.

Sorry Hillary got her nuts kicked in by a real estate developer. You're not going to win them all. It's okay to stop the temper tantrum at some point though. The adults are getting sick of it.

Onvacation says

WaltertheoFlanders says

we should come up with a more 21 century way to protect the border

Add sensors and cameras.

Zero tolerance, come illegally and never have the possibility to be a US citizen.

Mines

E-Verify is an answer. Sadly, it was not introduced when Trump had majorities both in House and Senate, showing that perhaps he is just as full of hot air as all other politicians WRT to illegal immigration.

6rdB says

E-Verify is an answer. Sadly, it was not introduced when Trump had majorities both in House and Senate, showing that perhaps he is just as full of hot air as all other politicians WRT to illegal immigration.

This is true. Unfortunately, just like the Mexicans with saws are cutting through the fence, business will find loopholes with E-Verify to go through if forcefully enacted. It has to be multi faceted with E-Verify and tons of other stuff. For some here to pretend like a wall does nothing is hysterical though. Didn't know so many Americans either lost their common sense or never had it in the first place.

WaltertheoFlanders says

tRump has had 3 years to gather evidence and yet the only thing I hear is how some dossier is the only thing that got Hillary a FISA warrent.

Evidence of what? I never claimed what Hillary did was illegal. She hired someone to make up bull shit claims to get a warrant. Some secret court (to most of the American public) made a decision to allow intelligence agencies to look into things. A shit decision was made by that court to allow it. While the way it was done was highly unethical, no where am I stating it was illegal and "lock her up." I'm not the guy you think I am with regards to Trump.

WaltertheoFlanders says

Tell me, what is tRump doing to get rid of the Patriot act and the FISA court. Jack shit, that's what he's doing.

You know the fucking reason. Not sure if you're being obtuse on purpose or sarcastic or what. Trump is going to use the FISA court now knowing it's legal. Hillary and Obama started a dangerous precedent. Although I'm not certain Trump will need to use the FISA court as this whole impeachment stuff is better than a SNL episode when it was actually good.

6rdB says

E-Verify is an answer. Sadly, it was not introduced when Trump had majorities both in House and Senate

Saying the Republicans had control of the Senate and the House, with assholes like Paul Ryan and Chuck Grassley, is a joke.
The Establishment had control of the Senate and the House, just like it does right now. If the GOP allows Lindsey Graham to serve out until after the 2020 elections.
Then every GOP Cock Sucker in Washington needs to be voted out, that is not a Member of the Freedom Caucus. and has over 2 hours of Youtube footage actually Questioning these traitorous fools in Nadler's Kangaroo Courts. Remember that's limited to 5 minutes of questioning at a time!


The Republican party the shitbirds keep squawking about, is a dead political party with no power or place in the NWO obstruction Trump has brought about. They have been relegated to all sitting on one side of the boat, to try to flip the boat over and derail Trump. Even if means, giving the country up to Muslims and Commies. The party been commandeered by the Patriots. The people interested in saving this country from a Communist and depraved immoral fate. There's about 70 million of us, so there's THAT!