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jazz_music says

...When a hat starts being associated with right-wing terrorists and murderers, that would probably be a good time for people who disapprove of their actions to stop wearing that hat.

You don’t keep wearing the uniform of a hate group unless you deliberately wanted to provoke and outrage people. You know, like if you were just a huge asshole or and Trump Troll and a blog who just enjoys making other people uncomfortable and upset.

Classy.

Citing a website that openly advocates the end of free speech. Nice.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bill-mahers-show-has-gone-completely-off-the-rails?ref=home

How dare Bill Maher allow Dennis Prager to speak his mind!

Jazz, why do you hate free speech? Why are you posting on a free speech site when you support and read propaganda from those who are against free speech?

How do YOU know this?

jazz_music says

mind control is not a vague, mystical process but, instead, is the result of a concrete and specific and systematic set of methods and techniques

So true. TDS is caused by the constant big lies coming from the media.

jazz_music says

Of all these tactics, the “us versus them” mindset is probably one of the most effective. From the moment you are recruited into a cult, you are made to feel special, part of an “inside” group in opposition to unenlightened, unbelieving, dangerous “outsiders.”

One of these days the global warming believers are gonna hurt a "denier".

Tenpoundbass says

If Trump does not prevail, Presidents are irrelevant.
The sorry sons of bitches in the Donkey House, has not seen a Revolt yet, they have no idea what resisting even is

The most unpopular President of modern times, who couldn't even win the popular vote against Hilary Clinton.

You have to blame the media, for reporting all the things he says and does. "FAKE BOOS"

marcus says

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Okay so there are racists on the right.

There's just a s many people on the left that are confused about gender or who think abortion is should be legal.

So it's even, right ?

People on the left are racist. Who else screams "fuck white people", or color codes people all day long, hint no one else except the left. Left are racist mother fuckers.

It's a damn lie, there is nobody that voted for Trump over Hillary, that did not do so for the same reasons, a Trump supporter would not support any of the current Democrats.
Not only that, their lack of support for the Dems will supersede any prejudices or annoyances you may have with Trump's style.

marcus says

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Okay so there are racists on the right.

There's just a s many people on the left that are confused about gender or who think abortion is should be legal.

So it's even, right ?

Probably fair.

The problem is (most) of the left is afraid to call out their most extreme elements. This has been jordan Peterson's long time observication as I'm sure you know.

Combine that w the attempted control of technical speech/thought control and the left today is a very scary mechanism indeed.

Was reading an article about a "cancelled" writer in Seattle, a gay woman writing about gay women who transitioned and are regrettably transition back.

She was given the full nazi treatment for suggesting caution when going through permanent damage via transitioning, and accused of being anti-trans.

The left is throwing logical thinkers into social jail. Stop pretending the right is anywhere near the same level of problem today

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What JP says is "how far is too far on the left. Can we define that ?"

He posits that we know what too far to the right is. (i.e. racial hatred.)


CBOEtrader says

Stop pretending the right is anywhere near the same level of problem today

Let's say that I'm on the moderate left, and you're on the moderate right.

Why is it that I'm far more willing to acknowledge the identity politics on the right that I don't like, than you are on the right.

You people totally deny the racism on the right that makes Trump possible.

Tenpoundbass says

their lack of support for the Dems will supersede any prejudices or annoyances you may have with Trump's style

Boooooooo !!

TDS

TDS

Every Republican President is Hitler.

jazz_music says

mell says

TDS

That is an admission that you have nothing really to say.

Yet there you go again against someone who did have something to say.

Why do that?

Because you have to be fucking retarded to compare anything Trump did with the ideology of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and their systematic ethnic cleansing, gassing people with Zyklon B. It's not only retarded but a slap in the face of concentration camp survivors of the various leftist rulers and worst offenders in history, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc. Think about for a minute what the writer of this bs is doing, relativizing genocide by comparing it to Trump's policies and voter base. Or you have TDS.

NoCoupForYou says

Every Republican President is Hitler.

Literally. Fuck if you had given the Jews (and other outcasts) back then the opportunity to escape Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen in exchange for living in Trump's America they'd have all survived and would be thriving today. You can't make this shit up, the cognitive dissonance must be strong on this in the leftoid brain.

marcus says

Why is it that I'm far more willing to acknowledge the identity politics on the right that I don't like, than you are on the right.

What specifically are you talking about? I dont accept racism. Do you?

CBOEtrader says

marcus says

Why is it that I'm far more willing to acknowledge the identity politics on the right that I don't like, than you are on the right.

What specifically are you talking about? I dont accept racism. Do you?

CBOE has a point. What right wing identity politics are you talking about Marcus?

marcus says

You people

That's considered racist because you are generalizing a whole group by their anonymous and often ill defined online personas.

Can't you see that that is (fillinblank)IST!

marcus says

You people totally deny the racism on the right that makes Trump possible.

Please define what you mean by "You people" and "racism on the right"?

marcus says

Okay so there are racists on the left.

Fixed. The left is the party of identity politics.

CBOEtrader says

What specifically are you talking about?

TYpo. I meant that I'm more willing to recognize the identity politics and sjw nonsense on the left, than you are willing to acknoledge the racist on the right.

Please Marcus. I will give you one chance. List your best example of racism on the right that is ignored by moderates on the right.

in the mean time left ignores reality of who actually behave like Nazis:

willywonka says

marcus says

CBOEtrader says

What specifically are you talking about?

TYpo. I meant that I'm more willing to recognize the identity politics and sjw nonsense on the left, than you are willing to acknoledge the racist on the right.

Examples please

marcus says

I meant that I'm more willing to recognize the identity politics and sjw nonsense on the left, than you are willing to acknoledge the racist on the right.

Are you talking about the KKK? Noone is arguing for people like that.

We are cutting to the core of two worldviews though. The left assumes racism is both rampant and obvious amongst the right... and it's all a big lie, afaik. Racists, like the KKK, are shunned from "the right" and only relevant politically as brainwashing tools from the left (see the 20x articles about the KKK around election time, for example).

Meanwhile the left is embracing its anti white, anti male, anti logical questioning of the cult of diversity and equating every wrong thinker to nazis. "Maga hats, the new swastika" is cancerous, extremist, violent, disgusting, hateful speech that only comes from todays left.

So marcus, can you acknowledge these "identity politics" flaws from todays left?

Now your turn to list what the right is doing that is comparably bad, cause I dont see it.

Why is anyone commenting on this thread? I think our OP is just trying to fuck with people here at this point.

No, that was personal so I marked it as such now.

jazz_music says

White men wear these MAGA hats declaring the same brotherhood authoritarianism insider membership as symbolic of the us versus them dynamics.

Women may wear them just to please their little warriors.

The author isn’t fucking with you

What about black men wearing MAGA hats, and black women, there's plenty of them.

jazz_music says

White men wear these MAGA hats

jazz_music says

symbolic of the us versus them dynamics.

Also

jazz_music says

anyone can put on a swastika too, what does it mean?

This is what cognitive dissonance looks like. He wants to break out of the matrix, but somehow keeps diving back in

CBOEtrader says

jazz_music says

White men wear these MAGA hats

Fucking Nazis!

Liberal_in_blackface says

Fucking Nazis!

It shocks me how easily the left can not only make up this racist boogeyman BUT they pretend to KNOW this boogeyman to be the sole motivation of the wrongthinkers.

Its propaganda I'd imagine in a comic book, yet todays left buys it.

Gross, dangerous, and sad

CBOEtrader says

So marcus, can you acknowledge these "identity politics" flaws from todays left?

No I don't see what you see at all. I'm the one of us that fully acknowledges extremes on my side, the sjw nonsense, much of which (e.g. painting maleness as toxic) is not at all mainstream moderate left.

Where as the only racism you will admit on the right is KKK. Give me a break.

If the only white racists voting for Trump that you will acknowledge are KKK, then our conversation can not even begin.

I will always know in my heart of hearts, that a douchebag of Trumps magnitude could never have been elected (or tolerated since being elected) if not for the subtle racism and also not so subtle ("we're being invaded" even though border security was massively increased in the Obama era), not even running against Hillary.

And I will go a step further saying that the kind of racism I see, some subtle, and much not so subtle, is on display very regularly on this forum.

LOL, couple of Fays booing, the rest of the crowd is cheering.

www.youtube.com/embed/dKcR8e65yUw

So no actual examples of racism in the mainstream right? Okay, thanks.