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I don't think Obama was awful, a bit of a pussy for sure, but when you start from the bottom because of Bush there's no where to go but up. I think you and I both agree that economic success being linked to the POTUS is over the top by both parties. Much of what happens economically was going to happen regardless of who was POTUS.

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Cash for Clunkers, 11 years STRONG!

Word is Maxine's breath smells like there's a little man in the back of her throat taking a shit.

marcus says

No white supremacy implied there.

None. I'll be putting up my Poison and Motley Crue posters in the Black Genderqueer Feminist Alliance Office, so it's more inclusive for me.

www.youtube.com/embed/P9d5WPSmmaU

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No white supremacy implied there.

Please show us on the doll where the white supremicist touched you Marcus.

marcus says

Unlike Hillary, he's not untouchable and protected by the Deep State.
If there was any "There" Their then they're would be some Impeachment action going on right now, and Nancy wouldn't have the Sads.

marcus says

Well there was something there

Facts of the case disagree w you.

marcus says

and the evidence wasn't allowed

Gossip is not evidence.

marcus says

more or less becasue republicans decided it wasn't impeachable anyway

Correct. There is no evidence of wrongdoing, and noone suggested Bolton or anyone else has any evidence to change that fact. Gossip mind reading is not evidence.

marcus says

How closed your mid is, is irrelevant, most republicans know better.

CNN? Is that you?

Marcus, you've been lied to and dont seem to care. Show the evidence you have perhaps? Or nah, just lash out at those who use facts and empiricism.

marcus says

Who is "you" and "your" referring to in the circle of diversity above. IT's almost as if some group had things great, and then when they let in the others, the others ruined it and now somehow the cycle will repeat ? Or did it repeat before ? It's sort of implied that the group was better off without the "others" and it can be again, but the others would ruin it again.

I think the Black Queer Alliance would be better with some more diversity. A little Motorhead, some Cheryl Tieg swimsuit posters circa 1982.

What's wrong with that? Diversity and a broader spectrum of things makes everything better.

marcus says

You never present any kind of argument to this, just adhominem.

You want me to present evidence of lack of evidence?

You are running cause you have no facts. You have innuendo, assumptions, mind reading, and gossip. You can call that stuff "evidence" but it's not. Period.

I'd love for you to list the facts that all reasonable people agree with, but you wont (cant).

I've never said Trump didnt lie. I could pick out 25 Trump statements that are factually inaccurate. BUT, it's all stuff like "we are setting all time records" when something is merely good. Or the hamburgers were "stacked to the moon". Yeah, who cares.

I care about whether I can ascertain a politicians political agenda from his speech. Trump is indeed the most transparent and honest potus in memorable history by that regard.

Asking you to share a lie you want to discuss is my way of showing you that the Trump "lies" are typically fluffed up nonsense or outright lies by the establishment. Ex : "https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/02/politics/justice-department-trump-tower-wiretap/index.html" The important lies reported by the MSM have been proven to be 100% accurate. Obama did wiretap Trump at Trump Towers, meanwhile the entire MSM establishment called Trump a liar.

Still waiting for your big lie, that you havent found in 3 years of Trump.

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That’s your response to CBO’s post? I’m picking up my toys and leaving you smelly pants?

CBO has a major point. That is, how in the universe are the charges on impeachment nebulous? I’m still impossibly unclear on why/how anyone can determine guilt of abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The thing is, CNN and MSNBC are full on propaganda. Not an alternative point of view. They are not the counterpoint to Fox. Fox is counterpoint to ABC, CBS, and NBC. CNN and MSNBC are counter points to Glen Beck and Alex Jones...that is, straight up crap.

Yet you have admitted you watch both. You admitted you trust the NY Slimes which hasn’t endorsed a Republican President in over half a century. You probably also read the Washington Post which is a leftist pile of garbage at this point.

The impeachment was a political stunt intended to satiate a looney left wing base. It was unfair, wrong, and likely costs the Dems the house in 2020.

marcus says

. I know you love it when I get all on my high horse about literacy and punctuation. All that useless elementary school shit

Just because. Practice and you'll get it.

marcus says

Even DErshowitz clearly states that the issue isn't even what he did, but more the question of if he did do what was suggested, was it impeachable.

No, he didnt. You've been lied to, but you wont even find his quote to prove me wrong, will you. Ask yourself why

marcus says

Look the case was made by both sides, I heard both sides directly make their case.

Both sides? Dude the impeachment was 100% one sided. You havent even in the slightest "heard both sides" as one side wasnt allowed to speak.

The ease with which you lie to yourself is emblematic of our CNN/MSNBC propagandized times. Look at the facts and try, at least... or just be a bunch of righteous mob nazis.

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You've been lied to, but you wont even find his quote to prove me wrong, will you. Ask yourself why

I heard it myself on the radio live as I was driving. You're the one that learns through a biased filter, not me. If only you had the integrity to read Dershowitz' argument rather than just repeatedly call me names. What are you afraid of learning ?

YOU made a statement. YOU cant find evidence or even a direct quote to back it up. The lie in your statement is that D somehow suggested something wrong happened. He didn't. D suggested the allegations even if true, couldn't legally result in impeachment, to which there is currently no evidence anyways.

i listened to most of the impeachment proceeding. I heard everything D said, and I heard the lies CNN/MSNBC told about him. I listen to CNN/MSNBC far more than any right winger purely via osmosis. Keep lying to yourself though. I mean, everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi right? Thats what Don Lemon tells you to think, just go with it.

marcus says

CBOEtrader says

D suggested the allegations even if true, couldn't legally result in impeachment,

Ah, you finally fucking looked it up. I like the way you act indignant and like I was wrong as you FINALLY admit that what I said was correct.

Oh, I was lied to by CCNN and all the propaganda that I supposedly get my opinion from. Hahaha, then finally you look it up only to realize that I was right, and then in Trump like dishonest fashion you still press on spinning it as if I said something different.

Unbelievable.

marcus says

Even DErshowitz clearly states that the issue isn't even what he did

is a factually incorrect concept, fed to you by the MSM. The CNN/MSNBC spin on D the entire time was that D was somehow admitting Quid Pro Quo, BUT it wasnt impeachable. The left took it further with implications that D admitted Trump wrongdoing, but its not impeachable. Its slippery thinking, based on illusory facts spun to you by propagandists.

The truth: https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/481073-dershowitz-any-citizen-would-find-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-troubling

D NEVER SAID that he thought trump did something wrong. He never said that a quid pro quo for a political favor in return for $$ would be ok with anyone, but that was the spin and you twirled right along w it.

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Obama fought the LGBTQ community until he was elected.

Guess which POTUS is the only POTUS in history to support them before election? 25 years before his election, at a minimum.

Obama fought the LGBTQ community until he was elected.

And remember Obama sent Biden out to test the waters before Obama himself would "evolve."

NoCoupForYou says

The chart doesn't quite do Trump justice, as there were also an additional 8 million part time jobs that became full time jobs under his watch.

Remember folks, Obama's Solyndra Loan was so good, we're feeling the impact 10 years later. But, vote for Bernie Sanders to fix the Economy!

marcus says

I heard it myself on the radio live as I was driving. You're the one that learns through a biased filter, not me.

That's nice you listened to it, but I've said it here before, it needed to be watched. Body language is an extremely efficient way to judge the truth which I'm sure you'll argue. Facial expressions. The way someone may struggle to answer a straight forward question. The questioners themselves and whether they're confident or not in what they're asking. How they look when they ask. You can't get that from a radio. I watched probably 25-30 hours between the house committees and senate on CSPAN and stopped during the breaks. No filler or outside influence from the network.

You're not wrong and Trump lies for sure. But the impeachment was a complete and absolute waste of time. Trump has also already been reprimanded or sued for his other infractions before becoming POTUS. They're done, over with. None of them rise to the level of him being imprisoned and this pisses people off. Everyone you know has committed some petty crime or potentially serious crime. If it's a problem for you then you're probably not going to have many friends let alone be able to vote for anyone in either party. (that's not meant as an insult, just pointing out that if Trumps transgressions are a problem, most people associate with people just as bad if not worse and just maybe don't know it)

Every politician lies anyway, so it's ironic that we now have a new standard set up that lying is a problem even though both parties have been doing it for generations.

April 2020?

We keep hearing about bombshells from both sides. They all end up as duds.

Lee Harvey didn't act alone. The Vietnamese did not attack us in Tonkin Bay. World Trade Center Seven did not "collapse from fire". And Epstein didn't kill himself.

marcus says

That's not the kind of person we want as a leader.

maybe, but thats the sort of person who can ignore all odds while building $B empires and winning POTUS elections. Trump, nor Obama, nor anyone of that level of achievement is a normal person. They all have egos the size of Alaska, its a pre-req

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Lol, left has gotta really stop using Greta. She just sailed across the Atlantic in a million dollar yacht (yes, I know it's a catamaran). More emissions were put into building that vessel and operating it then the average person probably puts out in a decade. Congrats Greta.... just because it can use wind doesn't mean it's efficient...

https://www.frontpagelive.com/2019/11/15/where-is-greta-thunberg-now-sailing-across-atlantic-to-spain-with-this-aussie-yachting-couple/