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109123   mell   2020 Mar 11, 4:39pm  

theoakman says
The us isn't crawling with Chinese tourists all over the place.


True, Italy also has a huge number of Chinese immigrants, huge.
109124   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Mar 11, 5:27pm  

theoakman says
The us isn't crawling with Chinese tourists all over the place.
Not tourists, but ... have you been to silicon valley? Did you know, for example, that United Airlines' biggest corporate customer is Apple? Apple has dozens of employees coming and going to China every day. http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2019/01/apple-is-united-airlines-largest-customer-annual-spend-is-150-million/
109125   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Mar 11, 5:34pm  

mell says
The US population is over 5 x larger than Italy's.
That's where exponential growth greatly levels the playing field. From day 8 to day 12 (4 days), Italy reported 3x the total infected according to the chart. That's a daily exponential growth rate of antilog(log(3)/4) = 1.316x . So, it'll only take on log(5) / log(1.316) days for the US to grow to 5x larger number of infect. That's 5.86 days.
109126   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Mar 11, 5:40pm  

Death rate is also higher in Italy.
109128   mell   2020 Mar 11, 5:48pm  

SunnyvaleCA says
mell says
The US population is over 5 x larger than Italy's.
That's where exponential growth greatly levels the playing field. From day 8 to day 12 (4 days), Italy reported 3x the total infected according to the chart. That's a daily exponential growth rate of antilog(log(3)/4) = 1.316x . So, it'll only take on log(5) / log(1.316) days for the US to grow to 5x larger number of infect. That's 5.86 days.


True but the US hasn't had any growth beyond 25% in the past days, many of those are likely early infections finally showing up in the stats. The quarantines and shutdowns were just enacted a couple day ago, so there's a bit of a lag, so 25% growth is not much compared to Italy's 3x during the ramp up. Also the US is not densely populated like most of Europe, if you enact strong measure on the coasts that should do the trick. The flyover states have hardly any infections.
109129   mell   2020 Mar 11, 5:49pm  

NoCoupForYou says
Death rate is also higher in Italy.


People on avg. are much older in Italy, esp. in the northern regions where it rages.
109130   Booger   2020 Mar 11, 7:10pm  

109131   Bd6r   2020 Mar 11, 7:13pm  

Have $0 in stocks for last few years due to being paranoid. Go ORANGE MAN!
109132   Booger   2020 Mar 11, 7:19pm  

109133   rocketjoe79   2020 Mar 11, 8:45pm  

8 more months to go - repubs will make this a slow, painful dribble. In any debates, Trump will crush Biden. But the media will show polls showing how "close" the race REALLY is. Because polls are soooooo reliable.
109134   PaisleyPattern   2020 Mar 11, 9:45pm  

mell says
SunnyvaleCA says
mell says
The US population is over 5 x larger than Italy's.
That's where exponential growth greatly levels the playing field. From day 8 to day 12 (4 days), Italy reported 3x the total infected according to the chart. That's a daily exponential growth rate of antilog(log(3)/4) = 1.316x . So, it'll only take on log(5) / log(1.316) days for the US to grow to 5x larger number of infect. That's 5.86 days.


True but the US hasn't had any growth beyond 25% in the past days, many of those are likely early infections finally showing up in the stats. The quarantines and shutdowns were just enacted a couple day ago, so there's a bit of a lag, so 25% growth is not much compared to Italy's 3x during the ramp up. Also the US is not densely populated like most of Europe, if you enact strong measure on...


I think it’s likely that the numbers are down in the United States because of the lack of testing. Widespread testing is just starting now in Seattle, I expect it’s very likely that there will be a very rapid increase in the number of confirmed cases in Washington and throughout the country. I think that the rate of increase of confirmed cases has more to do with the rate of increase in testing then it has to do with the rate of increase of exposure and infection with the virus.
109135   WookieMan   2020 Mar 11, 9:59pm  

mell says
People on avg. are much older in Italy, esp. in the northern regions where it rages.

Italians are also gay.

Sorry to the Italian patnetters. You do know it though.
109136   mell   2020 Mar 11, 11:16pm  

PaisleyPattern says
mell says
SunnyvaleCA says
mell says
The US population is over 5 x larger than Italy's.
That's where exponential growth greatly levels the playing field. From day 8 to day 12 (4 days), Italy reported 3x the total infected according to the chart. That's a daily exponential growth rate of antilog(log(3)/4) = 1.316x . So, it'll only take on log(5) / log(1.316) days for the US to grow to 5x larger number of infect. That's 5.86 days.


True but the US hasn't had any growth beyond 25% in the past days, many of those are likely early infections finally showing up in the stats. The quarantines and shutdowns were just enacted a couple day ago, so there's a bit of a lag, so 25% growth is not much compared to Italy's 3x during the ramp up. Also th...


That's true but we have enough kits in the bay area now and the cases haven't increased much lately though there are a a few here and there daily. I'd say by now easily 25%-50% of workers in the bay area are workng from home.
109138   WookieMan   2020 Mar 12, 3:57am  

willywonka says
Age distribution Italy vs. US

Italy over 65 population: 22.75%

US over 65 population: 15.81%

https://www.statista.com/statistics/270473/age-distribution-in-italy/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/270000/age-distribution-in-the-united-states/

Age matters, but I think the distribution of fatties and smokers is probably most relevant. US is probably fatter, but my guess is that Italy has a higher percentage of smokers, which makes a respiratory illness more dangerous to Italy.

Good excuse for you smokers out there to quit. As a former smoker I can tell you the quality of life on the non-smoking side is much better.
109139   theoakman   2020 Mar 12, 4:32am  

SunnyvaleCA says
theoakman says
The us isn't crawling with Chinese tourists all over the place.
Not tourists, but ... have you been to silicon valley? Did you know, for example, that United Airlines' biggest corporate customer is Apple? Apple has dozens of employees coming and going to China every day. http://www.frequentbusinesstraveler.com/2019/01/apple-is-united-airylines-largest-customer-annual-spend-is-150-million/


Yes but 99 percent of the US is absent Chinese tourists. That's not the case with Italy. Apparently, if you go to Italy...you see nothing but Asians.
109140   zzyzzx   2020 Mar 12, 7:39am  

109142   zzyzzx   2020 Mar 12, 7:54am  

109145   Bd6r   2020 Mar 12, 10:29am  

both, if Trump does it

NoCoupForYou says
109147   Shaman   2020 Mar 12, 11:01am  

Where the fuck are they going to get healthcare workers if they close the schools? The workers will have to stay home and watch their kids!
109148   Shaman   2020 Mar 12, 11:02am  

I’d like a test but fat chance of that happening! The CDC is going to have egg on its FACE for years over this!
The infection rate is probably several orders of magnitude larger than they’ve tested.
109149   Ceffer   2020 Mar 12, 11:16am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
TRUMP TRIED TO FIX EVERYTHING BY REPLACING THE CDC WITH ERIC TRUMP BUT THE LIBBIES STOPPED HIM BECAUSE HATE!


Better to have somebody who doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground at the helm than somebody who just lies.
109150   Ceffer   2020 Mar 12, 11:22am  

How can you clear an effective Covid-19 perimeter with all these chicks clutching at your zipper?
109151   socal2   2020 Mar 12, 11:35am  

Because the majority of the testing is now being done by public health labs in the States (as it should be).

Think you will need to find another topic to spaz out on IN ALL CAPS!!!



https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html
109152   RC2006   2020 Mar 12, 11:36am  

My local junior college closing for spring semester. Fights at Costco, fucking media panicking people.
109153   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 12, 11:38am  

109154   mell   2020 Mar 12, 11:46am  

socal2 says
Because the majority of the testing is now being done by public health labs in the States (as it should be).

Think you will need to find another topic to spaz out on IN ALL CAPS!!!



https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing-in-us.html


Exactly was going to post the exactly the same content, including #fake news. lol almost verbatim
109155   mell   2020 Mar 12, 11:48am  

Never let a good crisis go to waste => fake news!
109156   WookieMan   2020 Mar 12, 11:50am  

The reaction seems to be different regionally. I just went to the grocery store minutes ago. Pretty typical Thursday afternoon. Shelves fully stocked. No masks or any of that other rubbish. Plenty of TP. Maybe us midwesterners aren't as pussified as some of the coastal folks?
109157   mell   2020 Mar 12, 11:51am  

WookieMan says
The reaction seems to be different regionally. I just went to the grocery store minutes ago. Pretty typical Thursday afternoon. Shelves fully stocked. No masks or any of that other rubbish. Plenty of TP. Maybe us midwesterners aren't as pussified as some of the coastal folks?


You can buy most of that at Trader Joes. It's more like Costco and Target the get frequented by the preppers.
109158   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 12, 11:54am  

WookieMan says
The reaction seems to be different regionally. I just went to the grocery store minutes ago. Pretty typical Thursday afternoon. Shelves fully stocked. No masks or any of that other rubbish. Plenty of TP. Maybe us midwesterners aren't as pussified as some of the coastal folks?


You simply have no diversity! Shame on you!
109159   WookieMan   2020 Mar 12, 11:55am  

mell says
WookieMan says
The reaction seems to be different regionally. I just went to the grocery store minutes ago. Pretty typical Thursday afternoon. Shelves fully stocked. No masks or any of that other rubbish. Plenty of TP. Maybe us midwesterners aren't as pussified as some of the coastal folks?


You can buy most of that at Trader Joes. It's more like Costco and Target the get frequented by the preppers.

It's the illusion that shit is being bought out. The god damn packages of TP at Costco fill the entire fucking cart. You can only store so much of a cheap product in the back room. You sell 10 of them and the shelf is empty in the snap of a finger. Perception is a mother fucker. It does make for some funny memes though.
109160   WookieMan   2020 Mar 12, 11:59am  

Shaman says
Where the fuck are they going to get healthcare workers if they close the schools? The workers will have to stay home and watch their kids!

Being dead serious here. If your kid can't stay home for 8-10 hours and not fuck things up at the age of 7, you're a bad parent (unless they're disabled of course). Sorry.

I feel for those with much younger kids though. There's really no good decision when you have a kid, a job, rent, etc...
109161   RWSGFY   2020 Mar 12, 12:21pm  

#stupidcunt
109162   Patrick   2020 Mar 12, 12:45pm  

The desperation to blame Trump is comical.

Would you really want Joe Biden handling this?

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