patrick.net

Trump is certainly not to blame at all. His actions are decisive and rational.

mell says

Why Merkel doesn't do anything beats me.

We now know what Hillary would have done.

Fuuuuck... I'm starting to get refund requests for my Maui condo on VRBO. I clearly state no refund within 60 days of check-in and clearly recommend that they purchase travel insurance when they make the reservations. So far the 3 that are asking didn't get the travel insurance.

So far there are no flight cancellations or anything like that insurance would cover anyway...

What do you guys think I should do? Due to the contract I'm not at any obligation to return one cent.

If you stated it in listing fuck them.

jazz_music says

11,690 DEAD!!!

"Obama Plague; far deadlier to Americans."

Heheheh ... watch what happens 2020

Yes, let's. Which continents did Obama cut off from travel? Did major sporting leagues delay the season and cancel events?

This is 110% media driven.

just_dregalicious says

Fuuuuck... I'm starting to get refund requests for my Maui condo on VRBO. I clearly state no refund within 60 days of check-in and clearly recommend that they purchase travel insurance when they make the reservations. So far the 3 that are asking didn't get the travel insurance.

So far there are no flight cancellations or anything like that insurance would cover anyway...

What do you guys think I should do? Due to the contract I'm not at any obligation to return one cent.

I’m recovering, still don’t know if I had the Covid-19, and I probably never will know. I went to the ER for diagnosis yesterday but they said I wasn’t sick enough to be admitted, and they weren’t/couldn’t do a test. So i went home. The wife went to Costco business center which is where the restaurants go to stock up, and it was busy but not crazy busy. No water, TP, paper towels, rice, or beans left. But lots of other good stuff!
Stocked up on a gross of spaghetti noodles, macaroni noodles, flour, tomato sauce cans, and other non perishables. That’s all going in emergency stash.
Still not concerned about water. We have filtered water on the dam fridge! Why buy a million bottles? We got the emergency water sure, and 18,000 gallons in the swimming pool that could be boiled and drank in a pinch. Good enough.

Should have trainable, young crocodiles in that pool.

think you're smart because you buy macaroni instead of TP or toilet paper into the zombie apocalypse?

I'll invest in bullets as a hedge for VIX >80. Good luck w your tomatoe sauce though

Shaman says

Why buy a million bottles?

So that you can pollute Pacific with plastic waste. DUH!

Roughly 100 people - many very healthy - die per day in traffic across the US. So far 51 people died from the coronavirus. Maybe net net it's saving lives as many streets have become ghost towns, that should save at least 10 traffic deaths per day. Not to mention those causing lifelong injuries and disabilities.

mell says

Roughly 100 people - many very healthy - die per day in traffic across the US. So far 51 people died from the coronavirus. Maybe net net it's saving lives as many streets have become ghost towns, that should save at least 10 traffic deaths per day. Not to mention those causing lifelong injuries and disabilities.

Flu/cold season is already over in Southern US. Why close everything, other than getting orgasmic with PANIC!

Simo_Hayha says

Simo_Hayha

Häyhä in their alphabet soup language

good name tho

RC2006 says

If you stated it in listing fuck them.

Hahaha... You guys are meaner than me. I'm offering 50% back. Although partly because I don't want "He's a coronavirus meanie!" reviews to screw up my near perfect set so far.

https://widerimage.reuters.com/story/life-under-lockdown-wuhans-windows-balconies-and-rooftops?utm_source=patrick.net

Wuhan still underlockdown after 51 days.

NoCoupForYou says

Ebola and didn't make it the only story on TV?

Right and Ebola and Covid-19 are almost the same. Very similar rates of and means of transmission, and equally likely to grow out of control, and likelyhood of growing exponentially in the US

NOT !!

If they were all that similar, I guess the Obama team was way batter at stopping it it's tracks, than Trump's (fired in 2018) pandemic experts.

just_dregalicious says

RC2006 says

If you stated it in listing fuck them.

Hahaha... You guys are meaner than me. I'm offering 50% back. Although partly because I don't want "He's a coronavirus meanie!" reviews to screw up my near perfect set so far.

Shit, I didn't click submit earlier today. I was going to say the same regarding reviews. Reviews can sink a vacation rental overnight if you get a few bad ones. If it's not too late, I'd offer a credit for a future stay and try and keep all the cash.

Although I suppose not having to deal with a tenant/vacationer and still get any cash for it is pretty solid too. People are ass hoes is the only concern. You being gracious and giving 50% back is still gonna get people pissy. Tough call. Weird times.

One changed her mind and is flying out in a week. Seems like she's over her fear. The other was happy with the offer and the third I haven't heard back from yet.

marcus says

Right and Ebola and Covid-19 are almost the same. Very similar rates of and means of transmission, and equally likely to grow out of control, and likelyhood of growing exponentially in the US

You got that out of my comments? I contrasted the media's presentation.

Do H1N1 and Coronavirus, instead. The media also did not hype H1N1 like it did this Wu Ping Cough, though millions got it and it caused 11,000 deaths in the USA.

All this is hype is doing is further destroying the already low credibility of the News Media. In a few weeks, if bodies don't pile up in morgues, anybody who can be woken up will be awoken.

NoCoupForYou says

marcus says

Right and Ebola and Covid-19 are almost the same. Very similar rates of and means of transmission, and equally likely to grow out of control, and likelyhood of growing exponentially in the US

You got that out of my comments? I contrasted the media's presentation.

Do H1N1 and Coronavirus, instead. The media also did not hype H1N1 like it did this Wu Ping Cough, though millions got it and it caused 11,000 deaths in the USA.

All this is hype is doing is further destroying the already low credibility of the News Media. In a few weeks, if bodies don't pile up in morgues, anybody who can be woken up will be awoken.

It’s insane. Literally every agency was calling it the Wuhan corona virus but as soon as Trump says it, it’s xenophobic and racists and horrible.

The media is literally out of their minds with CNN and MSNBHeehaw leading the charge.

NoCoupForYou says

All this is hype is doing is further destroying the already low credibility of the News Media. In a few weeks, if bodies don't pile up in morgues, anybody who can be woken up will be awoken.

Everyone is woken. The hype will stop shortly. I hung out with 3 nurses last night. Their only concern was quality of care due to a massive amounts of people getting sick and flooding hospitals with patients. The virus itself is very benign and flu like.

Everyone is going to get this thing whether they know it or not, but we can't all get it at once is the concern. I personally disagree and would like to just drive down the street with a sprayer and get everyone infected so we could just be done with this and people build immunity.

That is actually being considered as the strategy in Britain:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/herd-immunity-will-the-uks-coronavirus-strategy-work

Patrick says

That is actually being considered as the strategy in Britain:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/herd-immunity-will-the-uks-coronavirus-strategy-work

It should be the only consideration. Mind you I have no immune or respiratory issues, so 100% biased. I don't think this goes away in 3-4 weeks when we attempt to start things back up to normal. In the meantime healthy people are losing jobs likely. Killing themselves. Some families that bust their ass but live pay check to pay check but don't live on the government teet will have trouble feeding themselves.

We are basically trying to protect old people from something that we cannot. It's pure stupidity. Just ban anyone that isn't a healthcare worker from interacting with the elderly. Specifically in nursing homes. That's the biggest issue in Washington. We get to the point of taking temperatures and shit and we'll end up putting people with colds in hospitals where they will likely get the virus when they wouldn't have.

Trump is handling this poorly in the opposite way most people would think. He should take the suck in up buttercup approach. Elderly, weak, immune compromised and respiratory issues just stay put and isolate instead of the whole fucking world. No different than peanut allergies. Understand you have an issue and adapt instead of expecting everyone else to upend their entire lives.

Chinese seems to be having some success in acute patients with chloroquine, an anti-malarial:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220301145?via%3Dihub

Poland is planning to use it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fi8eox/poland_has_formally_registered_chloroquine_as_a/

It's related to the quinine of tonic water: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonic_water

Maybe a gin and tonic is called for!

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1238633775090651140

Trudeau refuses to cancel direct flights from China. Today planes landed from Shanghai, Chengdu, Hong Kong, Beijing and other cities. Upon arrival, migrants are asked a question on a screen — in English & French — if they’ve been to “Hubei province”. And then they walk through.

WookieMan says

Just ban anyone that isn't a healthcare worker from interacting with the elderly. Specifically in nursing homes.

@WookieMan Maybe that would work. Set a cutoff age, maybe 65, and quarantine all those people for their own benefit.

Patrick says

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1238633775090651140

Trudeau refuses to cancel direct flights from China. Today planes landed from Shanghai, Chengdu, Hong Kong, Beijing and other cities. Upon arrival, migrants are asked a question on a screen — in English & French — if they’ve been to “Hubei province”. And then they walk through.

Holy crap!

NoCoupForYou says

You got that out of my comments? I contrasted the media's presentation.

My bad.

Then apparently your point was that the media presents very different things that have very different levels of danger to the population differently.

Got it. Good point.

NoCoupForYou says

Do H1N1 and Coronavirus, instead. The media also did not hype H1N1 like it did this Wu Ping Cough, though millions got it and it caused 11,000 deaths in the USA.

Well that was a flu right ? Also different. But in hindsight, they probably also learned something then about the need to improve our preparedness, which is in fact probably now worse. Hence the talk of "flattening the curve," so that the stress on our system is spread out a little and we don't get an Italy situation. Especially considering it's already a bad flu season.

Considering what's happening in Italy, if it ends up being far less here, which would be great, it won't be the case that we weren't right to take precautions. With the possibly exception of despicable morons that are incapable of critical thinking.

marcus says

Then apparently your point was that the media presents very different things that have very different levels of danger to the population differently.

H1N1 killed 11,000 Americans. How many has Coronavirus killed?

marcus says

Well that was a flu right ? Also different. But in hindsight, they probably also learned something then about the need to improve our preparedness, which is in fact probably now worse. Hence the talk of "flattening the curve," so that the stress on our system is spread out a little and we don't get an Italy situation. Especially considering it's already a bad flu season.

So all the ranting about Trump being a racist for closing travel from China is going to be apologized for?

NoCoupForYou says

So all the ranting about Trump being a racist for closing travel from China is going to be apologized for?

Who ranted about it ? It wasn't me or any moderates liberals.

Why is it that all the shit you point out about supposed lefties has nothing to do with anyone I know ( okay maybe one or two sjws I know).

How can anyone not understand that you and your type want the division. Your side is the haters. In order to define me as being on the hater side you always associate me with whacko wierdos. You could never tolerate someone that wants to bring a strong middle together behind a leader that is good for most of us.

All you care about is spreading your "us against them" message. I guess we need a better word.

You're a dividist.

All you care about is your pathetic us against them message. Yes, I hate Trump and what he stands for every bit as much as you hate the SJWs and the wierdos.

So we should find leaders that are for both of us.

It's not Trump. Deal with it. Or continue with your constant stream of straw men of abberant behavior and ideas.

marcus says

NoCoupForYou says

So all the ranting about Trump being a racist for closing travel from China is going to be apologized for?

Who ranted about it ? It wasn't me or any moderates liberals.
..

Ok maybe you really don’t have cable, cause it was CNN and MSNBC 24/7

CovfefeButDeadly says

Holy crap!

Time to close the border with Canada!

Okay, joking aside, the plan (for the few who had one) was never to stop the virus, only to slow it down so health care systems don't get overwhelmed. I think we're late. I worry about my baby sis who is the charge nurse for an emergency room at a major hospital in San Antonio. Somehow they convinced her to take the night shift which isn't super for the immune system.

We should probably close the border with Canada if we hope to reach that goal.

Containment measures seem to be kicking in slowly but surely. US coming in at 21% growth down from 26%.

"Everything we do before a pandemic will seem alarmist. Everything we do after will seem inadequate." - Michael Leavitt, former HHS Secretary under President George W. Bush

THAT would eat a lot of yams.