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Dr. Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy, the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines.

https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856

"The US is unprepared! We need Euro National Health Care! Death Panels aren't a thing!"

If we don't reopen America, we may as well elect Bernie. We're gonna have to nationalize everything, and the State governors ain't gonna remove their restrictions.

NoCoupForYou says

Dr. Gai Peleg told Israeli television that in northern Italy, the orders are not to allow those over 60 access to respiratory machines.

https://www.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856

"The US is unprepared! We need Euro National Health Care! Death Panels aren't a thing!"

Note that these decisions are made every day in countries like the UK - if you are too old you don't get a new kidney and eventually die in dialysis.

Bluechecks, Technocrats, Tranny Radicals, and BernieBros be like:

Government: "Everybody must work from home!"
Chemistry teachers:

socal2 says

This aged well. Dude is a New York Public Health commissioner and now thinks he has the virus.
https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1242185794250510344

Once again Liberals putting the country at risk due to political correctness.

More proof of the law of karma.

Good find!

Whatever happened to the guy promoting "hug a Chinese" in Italy?

Patrick says

socal2 says

This aged well. Dude is a New York Public Health commissioner and now thinks he has the virus.
https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1242185794250510344

Once again Liberals putting the country at risk due to political correctness.

More proof of the law of karma.

Good find!

Whatever happened to the guy promoting "hug a Chinese" in Italy?

Really it wouldn't have escalated like this if they just had canceled large gatherings immediately instead of being such woke imbeciles. The we may not have needed radical shelter in place orders.

mell says

Really it wouldn't have escalated like this if they just had canceled large gatherings immediately instead of being such woke imbeciles.

I may have missed if other orgs did the same, but the NBA was actually pretty front line on this. Cancelling the regular season and all that. That's when I started kind of taking this more seriously. At least as much as I can considering I'm statistically more likely to die from many other things before CV-19. When billionaires shut down their ATM, you take notice.

WookieMan says

mell says

Really it wouldn't have escalated like this if they just had canceled large gatherings immediately instead of being such woke imbeciles.

I may have missed if other orgs did the same, but the NBA was actually pretty front line on this. Cancelling the regular season and all that. That's when I started kind of taking this more seriously. At least as much as I can considering I'm statistically more likely to die from many other things before CV-19. When billionaires shut down their ATM, you take notice.

Considering we ramped up testing the numbers seem to be stagnating around steady growth for now - but the social distancing / shelter in place is necessary now. States that implemented that are starting to slow down. NY/NJ is still raging. It's not deadly enough for the elite to panic. This is not Ebola. Still they might continue to try to get dibs on testing and meds. In a way it has been affecting them more since thy travel more, so a lot of celebs and rich people got it. The rednecks are fine so far.

WookieMan says

When billionaires shut down their ATM, you take notice.

Yes. Billionaires for once have an interest similar to the people they get their money from.

Even more so, because billionaires are generally elderly.

US Mint issues commemorative coronavirus coin.

Complete Democrat flipout on Twitter and Facebook about reopening things.

One lady on my wife's facebook - I block facebooks in hosts files - asserted than young people were dying, which is complete bullshit, and that anybody who wanted to reopen offices and businesses and factories was a "Mass Murderer" (ie OrangeManBad).

NoCoupForYou says

Complete Democrat flipout on Twitter and Facebook about reopening things.

One lady on my wife's facebook - I block facebooks in hosts files - asserted than young people were dying, which is complete bullshit, and that anybody who wanted to reopen offices and businesses and factories was a "Mass Murderer" (ie OrangeManBad).

Yeah, back to the face pawing, open mouth psycho screamers! So many LibbyFucks, so few insane asylums.

The high rate of "positives" among celebrities is indicating that either whatever the test is actually testing is a conventional seasonal Corona-virus that has been spreading among the general population since late 2019 (and not causing much more than the usual Flu / Cold for the winter season) or the test itself generates a lot of false-positives.

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NoCoupForYou says

anybody who wanted to reopen offices and businesses and factories was a "Mass Murderer" (ie OrangeManBad).

Sounds a little like some of the hyperbole we here around here. Both types of TDS are making people sick out there.

GlobalRoamer says

Well, since the world's richest nation failed to gear up for the pandemic (we had PLENTY of warning) - people have had to come up with their own ways to survive.

Democrats spent last 4 years changing bathroom signs to include trannies, deciding n gender choices, calling everyone a bigot, and promoting gay shit wherever possible... because priorities.

Reality says

The high rate of "positives" among celebrities is indicating that either whatever the test is actually testing is a conventional seasonal Corona-virus that has been spreading among the general population since late 2019 (and not causing much more than the usual Flu / Cold for the winter season) or the test itself generates a lot of false-positives.

Why do you keep trying to ruin a perfectly good pandemic?

Reality says

or the test itself generates a lot of false-positives.

The other possibility, which some people have asserted to be the case, is that a lot of people (A LOT) have no symptoms or mild symptoms with this. This would mean that a lot more people out there have it than we know. Also meaning the fatality rate is actually as low as it is for the flu. This would be great if true, becasue it would also mean herd immunity comes sooner.

I read so much about this, I forget which "expert" was saying that there might be as much as 6 times as many people out there with the virus as we think.

marcus says

The other possibility, which some people have asserted to be the case, is that a lot of people (A LOT) have no symptoms or mild symptoms with this. This would mean that a lot more people out there have it than we know. Also meaning the fatality rate is actually as low as it is for the flu. This would be great if true, becasue it would also mean herd immunity comes sooner.

Yes, that is the first possibility mentioned in my post: "a conventional seasonal Corona-virus that has been spreading among the general population since late 2019 (and not causing much more than the usual Flu / Cold for the winter season)" That also means a large cross-section of the population is already immune . . . which was hinted by the testing result on Diamond Princess: the infection rate should have been much higher than 20% after people had been locked in that environment for 3 weeks (with the first week fully mingling!) if nobody onboard had any immunity (i.e. had already been exposed previously before getting on the ship and fully recovered or recovered from no symptom at all).

Reality says

Yes, that is the first possibility mentioned in my post: "a conventional seasonal Corona-virus that has been spreading among the general population since late 2019 (and not causing much more than the usual Flu / Cold for the winter season)"

No that's different.

I was adding the possibility that it's still new, and very deadly for older people, but that we don't know how many people have it, possibly way way way more than we think.

I guess Korea's numbers after testing well makes that possibility, less likely.

NoCoupForYou says

One lady on my wife's facebook - I block facebooks in hosts files - asserted than young people were dying, which is complete bullshit, and that anybody who wanted to reopen offices and businesses and factories was a "Mass Murderer" (ie OrangeManBad).

Yes, there was an almost comical spate of PANICKED articles about young people dying in large numbers after someone gave the order: "Publish this, now!"

It was hard not to laugh, given how obviously orchestrated it was. And how contrary to fact.

Yes, young people may be carrying it and infecting the elderly, but it's still very rare for anyone under 30 to die from this.

Media credibility has fallen from zero to less than zero and is now digging into the basement floor.

marcus says

I was adding the possibility that it's still new, and very deadly for older people, but that we don't know how many people have it, possibly way way way more than we think.

I guess Korea's numbers after testing well makes that possibility, less likely.

Flu and Cold can be very deadly to the elderly and infirm. 55k people die of Flu every year in the US alone, mostly the elderly and infirm, according to CDC.

Dying of the flu is a pretty normal way to go for the elderly.

Milan turns out to be very polluted, probably contributing to the death rate there.

https://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Spread-of-COVID-19-begins-to-show-pattern-of-4-8-week-eruption-cycle-622035

Spread of COVID-19 begins to show pattern of 4-8 week eruption cycle

Analyzing the specific data of each country separately suggests that there is a light at the end of the tunnel – and that the tunnel is not that long. ...

Most people are focused on the total number of patients, new patients and deaths worldwide. These numbers are ascending at a deadly pace, literally, and looking at the graphs gives a sense that they are climbing rapidly toward the end of the world. However, the specific data of each country, when examined separately, suggest otherwise. Although this is an early observation, it appears this disease has a periodicity of a classic Gaussian bell-curve shape wherever it appears.

Ignoring both tails of the graph, it indicates that this bell's life cycle is around six to eight weeks, with its peak appearing after about two to four weeks from the time when incidents begin to occur at a substantial rate. When looking only at global numbers as a whole, what is seen is an aggregation of Gaussian bells that join the game at various stages, which completely distorts the analysis of the data and the bell behavior.

Italy has peaked. Curve is flattening. Same will happen here in a few days/weeks.

https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-coronavirus-129.html#Keine-gemeinsame-Erklaerung-der-G7-Aussenminister

No joint statement by the G7 foreign ministers
7:36 p.m.

The foreign ministers of the leading western industrialized countries are unlikely to agree on a joint declaration on the Corona crisis at their video conference on Wednesday. According to media reports, the USA, Canada, Japan and the four European members - including Germany - were unable to agree on a common text in preliminary talks. One of the differences was the term "Wuhan virus" used in the American draft.

Good for America! It is the Wuhan virus, nothing else.

Patrick says

NoCoupForYou says

One lady on my wife's facebook - I block facebooks in hosts files - asserted than young people were dying, which is complete bullshit, and that anybody who wanted to reopen offices and businesses and factories was a "Mass Murderer" (ie OrangeManBad).

Yes, there was an almost comical spate of PANICKED articles about young people dying in large numbers after someone gave the order: "Publish this, now!"

It was hard not to laugh, given how obviously orchestrated it was. And how contrary to fact.

Yes, young people may be carrying it and infecting the elderly, but it's still very rare for anyone under 30 to die from this.

Media credibility has fallen from zero to less than zero and is now digging into the basement floor.

The Democrat buffoons running Commiefornia...Gavin Gruesome and imbecile mayor of Los Angeles Eric Garbagecetti are INSISTANT that the Wuhan Virus affects everyone and younger people had better be concerned because some teenager in the IE who had other heath problems died from it.

Democrats are the worst.

zzyzzx says

Hahahaha!!!! Dare you to post that one on Facebook!

Enjoy your freedom to speak here at patrick.net!

Reality says

55k people die of Flu every year in the US alone,

"Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu."

80,000 people died of the flu in 2018:

https://www.statnews.com/2018/09/26/cdc-us-flu-deaths-winter/

It was barely even news.

Meanwhile, the other 10 to 15 thousand people who died in the USA today: Who gives a fuck.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/904584/new-oxford-study-suggests-millions-people-may-have-already-built-coronavirus-immunity

The Oxford research suggests the pandemic is in a later stage than previously thought and estimates the virus has already infected at least millions of people worldwide. In the United Kingdom, which the study focuses on, half the population would have already been infected. If accurate, that would mean transmission began around mid-January and the vast majority of cases presented mild or no symptoms.

The head of the study, professor Sunetra Gupta, an Oxford theoretical epidemiologist, said she still supports the U.K.'s decision to shut down the country to suppress the virus even if her research winds up being proven correct. But she also doesn't appear to be a big fan of the work done by the Imperial College team. "I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model," she said.

If her work is accurate, that would likely mean a large swath of the population has built up resistance to the virus. Theoretically, then, social restrictions could ease sooner than anticipated. What needs to be done now, Gupta said, is a whole lot of antibody testing to figure out who may have contracted the virus.