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You know why Biden took up playing the guitar?

He enjoys fingering minors.

richwicks says

Does Israel kill more Palestinians than Palestinians kill Israelis?

Who gives a fuck? Doesn't make Arafat an angel of peace either way.

FuckCCP89 says

richwicks says

Does Israel kill more Palestinians than Palestinians kill Israelis?

Who gives a fuck? Doesn't make Arafat an angel of peace either way.

I didn't say Arafat was an angel. I'm pointing out that the constant lamenting of the Palestinians as being "the bad guys" is grossly simplistic.

90 years ago, Jewish people were invading the region. It's just the longest, slowest, drawn out genocide in history. All the Palestinian Muslims and Christians that could get out, did get out, decades ago. I know descendants of them.

And by the way, compared to Henry Kissinger, Arafat WAS an angel. He won the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama is more of a bloodthirsty murderer than Arafat, he won the Nobel Peace Prize. It's just a BS virtue signalling award. It's meaningless and has been for decades.

richwicks says

90 years ago, Jewish people were invading the region.

100 years ago when someone said, "Palestinian", they meant Jew. Go lookit the newspapers from the era on microfiche at a library.

Patrick says

richwicks says

90 years ago, Jewish people were invading the region. It's just the longest, slowest, drawn out genocide in history. All the Palestinian Muslims and Christians that could get out, did get out, decades ago. I know descendants of them.

Genocide shmenocide. No one was ever murdering the Palestinians in big numbers. Yes, the Jews have been assholes to the Palestinians, but it's in no way a genocide. Oppression is a valid term for it though.

I don't mean that Israeli is just wiping out the indigenous people there though murder, they are destroying any vestiges of their culture. They are destroying them as a people.

Patrick says

I had a half-Palestinian girlfriend after college. Her Palestinian family was Christian, which surprised me until I learned that about 25% of the pre-Israel population there was Christian, kind of like Lebanon, which is still about 40% Christian. But most of the Palestinian Christians have fled now.

Yep. I know Palestinian Christians as well.

I'm just tired of the constant, unending "Oh those Palestinians are evil!" Well, they didn't start the fight. This conflict was started by Jewish people PRIOR to WWII.

I'm just sick of the lies about it. Israeli OFFICIALLY wants a two party state. Well, if that's the case, just declare the fucking borders - Israel can unilaterally declare the borders, any damned borders they please - but they never will, because their idea of a "two party state" is everything and where the Palestinians go, it's their problem. That's where it's headed and where it's going to go. There will never be a Palestinian state.

If you think Americans get gaslit, imagine being a Palestinian in 1920 being told that Jewish people are immigrating to a land without a people for a people without a land. I'm tired of being lied about the nature of the conflict. It's about land, and it's about racism and a conflict of two cultures.

And it wasn't Arafat that alone won the Nobel "peace" Prize, he won it jointly with Shimon Peres and Yitzhak Rabin. Rabin was murdered for attempting to end the conflict. He might be the only guy that actually deserved the prize. This war will never end until Israel includes the west bank and Gaza and I cannot see that as a moral achievement. It's intensely depressing to know the situation, and still hear the same tired propaganda I've been hearing for all my life.

I agree with that part. Israel wants the whole area and they will probably get it.

On the other hand, the Palestinians have been ridiculous assholes as well, deliberately murdering random civilians.

The whole area is pretty fucked up.

Patrick says

I agree with that part. Israel wants the whole area and they will probably get it.

They will certainly get it.

Patrick says

On the other hand, the Palestinians have been ridiculous assholes as well, deliberately murdering random civilians.

Israel deliberately murders random civilians all the time. Kids get bullets put through their skulls by the IDF while playing on soccer fields. When has ANY Jewish Israeli EVER gone to real prison for murder of a Palestinian? Can you name an instance? They have a two tiered justice system as well. I think our society is being setup the same way, but not along ethnic and religious lines so much.

Don't put it beyond the pale that Israel arranges false flag attacks either, that is what the Lavon Affair was about - they just got caught in that one.

Patrick says

The whole area is pretty fucked up.

It's just terribly sad.

I'm going to die in about 30 years, and this war will still be going on when I die. 70 years of unending war currently, will be 100 - an entire generation is going to exist where war never ended. Never ending war, sound familiar? The US has the same policies of Israel now, it's absolute insanity.

Looks like a muppet.

just_passing_through says

Looks like a muppet.

Yes the British kind and the Jim Henson kind.

It might take a minute

just_passing_through says

richwicks says

90 years ago, Jewish people were invading the region.

100 years ago when someone said, "Palestinian", they meant Jew. Go lookit the newspapers from the era on microfiche at a library.

Look, you're making a claim and saying "that's true - go find it in a mountain of crap, the needle is really there".

Jews were a majority ONLY in Jerusalem in 1920. Nowhere else. Palestinian simply referred to the people of that geographic area. In 1920, the area of Palestine was just a part of the Ottoman empire.

Zionists produced constant, unending propaganda for decades to justify their massive influx into the area and to bring more in. The dead sea scrolls are some, if not ALL, forgeries - did you know that? Tons of propaganda still is repeated today.

richwicks says

Look, you're making a claim and saying "that's true - go find it in a mountain of crap, the needle is really there".

Yeah, so? That's how a Jewish co-worker proved it to me in the 90s. Maybe it's just because the apparently fewer Jewish people still living there were the only literate people in that region? Then again, they were US papers...

I wouldn't expect you'd find that sort of thing on the internet. Either way, I really don't care. It's just fun to say.

just_passing_through says

richwicks says

Look, you're making a claim and saying "that's true - go find it in a mountain of crap, the needle is really there".

Yeah, so? That's how a Jewish co-worker proved it to me in the 90s. Maybe it's just because the apparently fewer Jewish people still living there were the only literate people in that region? Then again, they were US papers...

It's POSSIBLE that what you say is true. Give me the paper's name, the date, and the article. It's most likely FALSE.

just_passing_through says

I wouldn't expect you'd find that sort of thing on the internet. Either way, I really don't care. It's just fun to say.

My generation didn't make the internet to be "fun", it was to expose propaganda, and to allow everybody to talk to anybody, anywhere all over the planet. We were successful in that, we just never realized how little people cared to know what was actually going on in the planet.

You have the power to know precisely what is transpiring on Earth - what is ACTUALLY going on. As far as I know, for certain, the United States has had ceaseless propaganda for 30 years at least. I know this with certainty.

Palestinians, and Israelis are brainwashed too, maybe just as much as Americans are but I think less.

You have to approach it knowing that. To approach knowledge, you have to realize that MOST of the time you're hearing propaganda. You cannot accept everything as fact but you continue to read. Propaganda is often well mixed with the truth. When you get a coherent story of what is going on, you probably have found the truth - PROBABLY have. You can still be wrong, but you can know, with certainty, what isn't true.

You have to abandon the idea that anything you read is true, and just file it in your mind as a possibility. Facts become apparent once you realize what doesn't make sense.

For example - Assad was warned by Obama not to use chemical weapons or it would invite US intervention - but Assad (supposedly) used chemical weapons in Ghouta anyhow about 9 months later. Why use chemical weapons? He's got an airforce and a military - why use the ONE weapon that guaranteed US intervention? Did Assad want a war with the United States? Is he stupid? Are his advisors stupid? Most probably that attack never happened or it was a false flag. The next question is that assuming Assad and his advisors aren't stupid, why would there be a false flag?

ISIS kept using US made weaponry as well. How did they get US armaments? The official story is they kept raiding Iraqi arm depots - how did a bunch of terrorists take over an arms depot? The armory must have been defended. Aren't these guarded by the US military?

The explanations given to us don't make sense. That's because what they claim happened, didn't happen. We have SERIOUS propaganda. If you just accept what you hear on the "news", that's good enough for them, but it breaks down pretty quickly once you start thinking about them. I'm not the smartest person in the world, but I think. Assad and his collective advisors aren't stupider than me, the Iraqi army and US military isn't stupider than me. I'm just being lied to. That's my conclusion.

It's really easy to say "Well Assad is just a dumb crazy dictator", well, that's very arrogant to think. It's very unlikely that a dumb, crazy man could control a nation. I couldn't keep Syria together, and doubt you could either. Our government lies about these people, incessantly.

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richwicks says

My generation didn't make the internet to be "fun", it was to expose propaganda, and to allow everybody to talk to anybody, anywhere all over the planet. We were successful in that, we just never realized how little people cared to know what was actually going on in the planet.

You have the power to know precisely what is transpiring on Earth - what is ACTUALLY going on. As far as I know, for certain, the United States has had ceaseless propaganda for 30 years at least. I know this with certainty.

Palestinians, and Israelis are brainwashed too, maybe just as much as Americans are but I think less.

You have to approach it knowing that. To approach knowledge, you have to realize that MOST of the time you're hearing propaganda. You cannot accept everything as fact but you continue to read. Propaganda is often well mixed with the truth. When you get a coherent story of what is going on, you probably have found the truth - PROBABLY have. You can still be wrong, ...

Same generation dude... A LOT was done by the boomers to bring the interwebs into being, some are my family members.

You really are a prolific responder. It's nice that you make liberal use of paragraphs.

Onvacation says

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I can't stop laughing.

Patrick says

I can't stop laughing

Neither can I. Thankfully whoever posted this ignored the "Recording of this hearing or livestream is prohibited." admonishment.

Cat filter lol

OK, not pictures, but two money jokes I heard when studying in Germany years ago.

2 marks:

A guy buys a 2 mark lottery ticket and wins millions. He puts it all into his dream house, made with teak wood, oriental carpets, very posh. A week later an electrical fault causes the whole thing to burn to the ground.

His friends see that he's still perfectly happy. They say "Aren't you sad about your loss?" The guy replies "Why should I be sad about 2 marks?"


boat:

A rich German businessman goes on vacation to Spain to enjoy the coast and the sunshine. He sees a poor Spaniard lying on the deck of his boat all day, doing nothing. He says to the Spaniard "That's the problem with you people, you're too lazy!"

The Spaniard says "How should I be?" The German replies "You should be industrious like me! Work hard for a few decades, make a lot of money. Then you can relax and enjoy life."

The Spaniard replies "I already do" and goes back to sleep.

Programmer joke.

Patrick says

jokes

1. Q: How was copper wire invented?
A. Two Dutchmen got hold of a penny.

2. Aliens caught Russian, French and German, locked them in a closed room 2 by 2 meters, and each was given two titanium balls.
Whoever will be able to surprise us (aliens) we'll let him go, but if not, you will be experimented on.

A day later they visit a Frenchman! He stands in the middle of the room and masterly juggles balls!
- Well, Frenchman, you surprised us, if those two didn't come up with anything, we will let you go.

Next is German! He masterly juggles titanium balls while marching!
Well, German, we are! Now let's see what the Russian came up with and we might let you go!

The alien comes to the Russian! A minute later, all stunned and
says: - No, guys, you all lost, the Russian broke one ball and lost the other !!!!

I don't really get the Russian joke, but, I'm like titanium - dense.

rocketjoe79 says

I don't really get the Russian joke, but, I'm like titanium - dense.

just ethnic jokes playing on European stereotypes...

rocketjoe79 says

locked them in a closed room 2 by 2 meters

"locked them in a closed room 2 by 2 meters" is the key.

I just love how the guy is holding his glasses because her foot is behind his head.

rocketjoe79 says

I don't really get the Russian joke, but, I'm like titanium - dense.

Highly ironic, since titanium isn't dense at all.

Patrick says

I just love how the guy is holding his glasses because her foot is behind his head.

And it looks like he is getting a footjob....

Owning it!

My favorites pronouns so far, by Gina Carano, are "beep, bop, boop".

We should always be taunting the idiots who hallucinate there are more sexes than male and female.

Onvacation says

Owning it!

How could any self-respecting therapist counsel this person instead of referring them immediately to a hospital for mental illness?

Patrick says

jokes

There was a ship sinking off the German coast, the captain of the ship called in.
"May Day! May Day! Help me I'm sinking!"
The Coast guard replied on the radio.
"And what are you sinking about?"

The Japanese motor company Nissan contacted the very successful Volkswagen in Germany about a new trade name to distance themselves from the Nipponese Empire after WW2 and they needed it by Monday.

The Germans responded, "Dat Soon"?

(some of you youngsters might not get that one.)