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WookieMan says

Then it gets colder across the country and everyone goes back indoors. Cases spike even further. If you were wearing a mask outside, you should have been protected and virus free once you get back home.

ThreeBays says

Bullshit. Your graphs just prove that masks don't completely stop the virus, but nobody ever said that they would. You're using a strawman at best

I know. The graphs prove that masks don't work at all. It's not a strawman. It's data.

Our own CDC and "top" infectious disease "expert" said mask didn't work. 2 months later they do. Was he right or wrong? However you answer this you're wrong because Fauci was wrong. You're in a lose/lose situation. So not sure why you want to die on this hill. You literally cannot be right. That data shows masks don't work. We were shut down, put a mask on and cases went UP, WAAAAAAY up. They don't work.

ThreeBays says

I'm not expecting a cogent answer.

Nor have you given many.
ThreeBays says

you just look foolish..

And on the contrary your arguments almost seem plausible, almost. Not that I think Wookie is wrong. He is right.

ThreeBays says

Trumpism is the closest in America, but I wouldn't go as far as calling it Fascist - except maybe in Trumpist's wet dreams of taking power by force from a democratically elected government.

We just had a crooked election to place a corrupt, senile old man, that will do anything the military industrial complex asks him to do.

The United States is a military dictatorship. Not a republic.

ThreeBays says

Did q-anon tell you that, or the my pillow guy? lol

It was the bullshit election where they stopped counting on election night but had to keep counting for weeks.

Or do you think the election went flawlessly?

I think the election was blatantly stolen and the Wuhan overreaction was a key part of the fraud.

ThreeBays says

Did q-anon tell you that, or the my pillow guy? lol

Statistics and math. I don't rely on narratives. Don't think Rich and many others here rely on narratives either. #manipulation #challenge

There's no mathematical way Biden got as many votes as he did and in the areas he did. While proof is likely coming, no one on the other side can prove impossible anomalies in voting count, patterns, etc.

There's likely to be a bombshell at some point to cause turmoil in the US. If you don't see that there's an underground war going on, you're blind. And people on this site or others are not your enemy. Politics be gone. We're actually all on the same side, I just don't think you know it.

You've been manipulated and need to open your eyes. This isn't about Trump or Biden anymore. Never was. That's all a distraction.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/briefing/trump-covid-chick-corea-olympics-president.html

Worldwide, scientists have not documented any instances of outdoor transmission unless people were in close conversation, Dr. Muge Cevik, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of St. Andrews in Scotland, told me. “The small number of cases where outdoor transmission might have occurred,” she wrote on Twitter, “were associated with close interactions, particularly extended duration, or settings where people mixed indoors alongside an outdoor setting.”

There are zero documented instances of casual outdoor transmission.

By "fascism" I mean all forms of totalitarianism which require you to show papers simply to move about normal life.

And you, @ThreeBays are clearly supporting this kind of totalitarianism. You are therefore an enemy of basic human rights.

But let's look at it in terms of a principle I just learned:

"Political positions are motivated by existential fears."

So you're afraid you might not exist because you'll get this mostly harmless virus and die. The chances of that seem like pretty much zero to me, unless you're very old and/or very fat. There were no excess deaths in America in 2020 over a normal year. There was just politically motivated counting of normal deaths as virus deaths.

I'm afraid that people like you are being used to drastically reduce our rights, leading to people like Kamala setting up death camps for everyone who questions her absolute power over our free movement, speech, and right to own guns. You probably think I'm crazy to think that. But I do think that.

WookieMan says

You've been manipulated and need to open your eyes. This isn't about Trump or Biden anymore. Never was. That's all a distraction.

What the fuck is Q anyway? And why the fuck should we care what they say? (Rhetorical, please don't answer)

Trump seemed to be on our side, but could the lockdowns have been successful with a democratic president? I think they targeted his germaphobia,

Trump was either a willing actor, or way over his head. I think the people that really control the world have a lot of contingency plans but did not think Hillary would lose twice.

Willingly or not Trump burnt down the whole facade of government from the supreme court to the local police. Like someone else said in a different thread, they have lost credibility. Credibility is something that is easy to lose and almost impossible to regain. I never much trusted the police, but they are doing a valuable job. I used to trust the supreme court, but after the last election I have lost faith in them.

We are at war.

Do you support the requirement that people show papers to move about normal life?

Huh, I wanted to get raw death data and plot it myself, but the only source seems to be the CDC, headed by Fraudulent Fauci, so I really don't trust it. Not that it matters, because they don't release current data anyway:

Currently, the CMF spans the years 1968- 2016

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data_access/cmf.htm#database

OK then, we agree more than I thought.

But I disagree that it's like war time.

If no one told you there was a pandemic, you would notice nothing unusual.

No one can even tell if they were sick or not without a very unreliable test.

Maybe Milan and NYC had surges where hospitals were briefly flooded, but that happens routinely with various flus anyway.

The right response would have been for the elderly and obese to stay at home. Not for the 99.7% of the population that is not at risk to stay home.

America is sailing on an ocean of lies.

WineHorror1 says

America is sailing on an ocean of lies.

Sure is. Reminded me of the Ice Choked Ocean of Lies we heard in the 1970s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dTnMwmCHmg

Satellites confirm... 40 years of Global Cooling. Land Grant Geophysicists agree - the ice age is coming.

MisdemeanorRebel says

WineHorror1 says

America is sailing on an ocean of lies.

Sure is. Reminded me of the Ice Choked Ocean of Lies we heard in the 1970s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dTnMwmCHmg

Satellites confirm... 40 years of Global Cooling. Land Grant Geophysicists agree - the ice age is coming.

Funny how YouTube put a "Context" statement from Wikipedia that stays in view for the whole video. It appears the Oligarchs have a vested interest in the AGW hoax.

Patrick says

The right response would have been for the elderly and obese to stay at home. Not for the 99.7% of the population that is not at risk to stay home.

Yup. Our dip shit "leaders" are now wearing two masks. You can't go full retard... they did. Waiting for Robert Downey Jr. to be cancelled for that movie line...

Probably not national news and probably something you Coastal guys wouldn't hear. Tammy Duckworth is contemplating running for POTUS. She's a Chicago machine proxy, no different than Obama. Clinton obviously was born here. Rahm Emannual (sp?). I'm not sure why she'd state this when her party has had the executive branch for only a few months. https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/03/28/sen-duckworth-floats-running-for-president-if-its-good-for-the-country/?sh=3e8ede214a90

Sure she's not saying she'd primary Biden, but still. Kind of weird. Methinks the Dem party is secretly in massive turmoil or the puppet strings are being used very early. The early days of Biden have not been very positive and even the MSM is giving him a "little" shit. 90% of America just got paid with some of my money, so they're happy.

ThreeBays says

And you, @ThreeBays are clearly supporting this kind of totalitarianism. You are therefore an enemy of basic human rights.

Defamation

You can't defame an anonymous person. Duh!

Patrick says

If no one told you there was a pandemic, you would notice nothing unusual.

Thus the masking mandates.

WookieMan says

Yup. Our dip shit "leaders" are now wearing two masks. You can't go full retard... they did. Waiting for Robert Downey Jr. to be cancelled for that movie line...

Joe's "100 days of masking" ends at the end of the month. What a clueless maroon.

https://www.dw.com/en/man-shot-dead-for-flouting-coronavirus-rules/a-53018149

Patrick says

https://www.dw.com/en/man-shot-dead-for-flouting-coronavirus-rules/a-53018149

Another Covid death. Trump could have prevented it too if he had just followed the science.

Reiner Fuellmich points out that many government functions have now been taken over by private corporations.


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For example, Big Tech is now in effect the arbiter of what is allowed to be spoken in public.

The merging of corporate and government power is part of the classic definition of fascicsm.

Thank a Polish priest:
https://nationalfile.com/video-polish-pastor-throws-mask-police-out-of-church-on-easter-dont-come-back-without-a-warrant-out-nazi/

Booger says

Thank a Polish priest:
https://nationalfile.com/video-polish-pastor-throws-mask-police-out-of-church-on-easter-dont-come-back-without-a-warrant-out-nazi/

Wow @Patrick that guy has ballz! You should dedicate a standing thread to him featuring this video. God bless this guy telling the leftoid canuck gestapo to buzz off! Outstanding.

The Polish know Gestapo when they see them!

mell says

You should dedicate a standing thread to him featuring this video.

Good idea!

https://patrick.net/post/1338713/2021-04-05-polish-pastor-throws-mask-police-out-of

I don't know how to get at the video without linking to Facebook, which I really don't want to do.

Anyone know how to screen capture a few seconds of it?

Here are the 1st 20 seconds. The whole 2 minutes was too large to upload.

Patrick says

I don't know how to get at the video without linking to Facebook, which I really don't want to do.

original link
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Patrick says

mell says

You should dedicate a standing thread to him featuring this video.

Good idea!

https://patrick.net/post/1338713/2021-04-05-polish-pastor-throws-mask-police-out-of

I have a complete copy of it here:

https://samoyed.dynu.net/~patrick/Tony%20-%20How%20to%20deal%20with%20Nazis.%20%20Absolute%20legend-1378443481115459592.mp4

And I made it with this command:

youtube-dl https://twitter.com/i/status/1378443481115459592

Maybe people wearing masks are ugly. I've been mildly flirting with this female trainer at my gym, only to be disappointed when I finally saw her face when she took a drink from her water bottle.

porkchopexpress says

Maybe people wearing masks are ugly. I've been mildly flirting with this female trainer at my gym, only to be disappointed when I finally saw her face when she took a drink from her water bottle.

Mask wearing is stupid on so many levels, one of which you just mentioned. I'm sure it will be called bullying or low class, but looks matter. There's a lot to the human face in communication and body language (face language) as well. Like being able to tell if someone is upset. Mouth movements (reactions) matter.

And of course the horse mouth, crooked teeth gal is getting away with it right now. Wouldn't be surprised if that's 20-30% of the reason masks are still a thing. Ugly chicks, and guys I suppose getting more attention with only eyes showing.

On my lunchtime walk yesterday, I saw two people pull up masks when I approached and each time I said "That's really not necessary, since there is no outdoor transmission. See NY Times on Feb 12th..."

To my surprise, both of them agreed! The first said she pulled up her mask because some old man had yelled at her for not having one. The second one said she was from Alaska but heard that people in the Bay Area were real fanatics so she was afraid of not complying.

In both cases it was not fear of the virus, but fear of irrational people.

Normally I do wear my mask when walking outside even though I think it's epidemiologically useless because oftentimes it is socially constructive to "signal" virtuous behavior.

But today I was at first drinking some water while walking and then I just didn't put it back on.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) April 6, 2021

EBGuy says

But today I was at first drinking some water while walking and then I just didn't put it back on.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) April 6, 2021

Some good comments there:

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1379536199275188225

https://archive.ph/ZyXMk

Beloved High School track coach fired because he didn’t force athletes to wear masks during outdoor races

Sorry to hear it.

The people who fired him should definitely be fired themselves. How can we help that happen?

Patrick says

Reiner Fuellmich points out that many government functions have now been taken over by private corporations.


original link
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For example, Big Tech is now in effect the arbiter of what is allowed to be spoken in public.

The merging of corporate and government power is part of the classic definition of fascicsm.

The take home bombshells (not to those of us here who have been saying this for months) are that 1) the PCR tests do not diagnose viral disease or infection and 2) there is essentially no asymptotic spread of the virus because only those people who have active viral replication in their cells show symptoms. Those who do not have viral replication in their cells don’t shed the virus, and also don’t show symptoms.

PeopleUnited says

The take home bombshells (not to those of us here who have been saying this for months) are that 1) the PCR tests do not diagnose viral disease or infection and 2) there is essentially no asymptotic spread of the virus because only those people who have active viral replication in their cells show symptoms. Those who do not have viral replication in their cells don’t shed the virus, and also don’t show symptoms.

Niece got booted from school today because she was around a kid that tested positive. I picked her up because my sis was at the doctor herself. I didn't give a flip. Why at this point? I should be dead by now if it was sooooooo dangerous.

This has to stop at some point. Logic isn't a thing anymore. I'm getting heat from my mom now to get vaccinated. I ain't touching that shit. I'm very cut and dry type. If I don't see her for years, I frankly don't care. Not getting vaccinated. Logic and facts matter. Covid won't kill me. It should have already and I was massively sick anyway in early January.

I have massive anecdotal evidence that covid is a huge nothing burger. It can't be debunked. Too many people involved as well. If being fatigued for a week is something to be scared of, we have bigger problems.

PeopleUnited says

there is essentially no asymptotic spread of the virus because only those people who have active viral replication in their cells show symptoms. Those who do not have viral replication in their cells don’t shed the virus, and also don’t show symptoms.

I was trying to say this at work today and there was a lynch mob forming to get me.

Whatever. I'm out, soon!

Been biking the past 2 evenings in Baltimore City (South Baltimore to be specific). Maybe 20% are wearing masks. Even saw like 2 people biking with masks on. Some joggers wearing masks (actual people jogging, not the other kind of "jogger"), and some people walking with masks on. And this was in an area with lots of walkers. What was interesting is how places had plastic jersey walls closing of parts of the streets so that restaurants could put tables there. Places were mostly either closed or open and had a lot of people in them. I did not see the cruise ships docked in the port.