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Chinese elites still have to live in a polluted shitty air environment, just like the poor folk. Roads are too congested to drive those expensive cars more than a few miles. They aren't even allowed to drive those expensive cars every day.

That's why they escape to here and other places.

Patrick says

Misc says

Yes, they have an optics problem concerning their Uyghurs and their education efforts to bring this group into the 21st century, but we have similar problems concerning a large portion of the Blacks in this country.

This is a false claim.

US blacks are not in labor camps. It's not similar in the least.

Is billionaire Oprah Winfrey oppressed? How about all those NBA and NFL stars?

We have more Blacks in prisons than they have Uyghurs in re-education camps. We aren't even trying to rehabilitate them any more. That was a 90s thing.

I am certain that the Chinese can point out a few hundred Uyghurs that are doing well under their system.

Our property taxes would seem similar to their "rent" based system.

They do have a social scoring model, but more Chinese travel internationally per year than any other country.

Misc says

We have more Blacks in prisons than they have Uyghurs in re-education camps.

The difference is that our blacks deserve to be there.

Shaman says

Misc says

We have more Blacks in prisons than they have Uyghurs in re-education camps.

The difference is that our blacks deserve to be there.

Ever dealt with an Uyghur?

Misc says

Ever dealt with an Uyghur?

No, but I knew a lady with a goiter once.

Misc says

We have more Blacks in prisons than they have Uyghurs in re-education camps.

@MIsc Did those black people in prison commit crimes? Yes.

Did the Uyghurs in re-education camps commit crimes? No.

Patrick, you are arguing with a 50 美分

Next, expect a talking point justifying the Hong Kong crackdown.

Patrick says

Misc says

We have more Blacks in prisons than they have Uyghurs in re-education camps.

@MIsc Did those black people in prison commit crimes? Yes.

Did the Uyghurs in re-education camps commit crimes? No.

They are mostly illiterate Muslims with poor ethics who need to be taught basic hygiene. The Chinese are trying their best to move a population from 5 AD to one that can participate in modern society. We gave up trying with the Black prisoners.

HeadSet says

Patrick, you are arguing with a 50 美分

Next, expect a talking point justifying the Hong Kong crackdown.

No the Hong Kongers should have been left alone. I'm in favor of freedom of speech.

Trump was ready to make Japan pay 8 billion for privilege of protection. Currently it is only 2 billion

Patrick says

Most Democrats do not. They are willfully blind in order to conform.

Quietly, Japan has rebuilt their military under the hawkishness of Shinzo Abe. Japan is quietly the 4th largest military in the world however they lack strike capacity. Its all defensive.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/10/editorial-japan-becomes-the-worlds-fourth-most-pow/

https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/japan/2019/japan-190830-presstv01.htm


China controls much of the South China Sea but not the senkaku islands; Japan has been gearing up for showdown. Do they like trump who "extorted them for 8 billion" or Joe Biden?

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2021/01/28/commentary/japan-commentary/japan-unsettled-biden-election/

Trump sold India 3 billion in military equipment to as part of an effort to keep china in check

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-usa-trump-idUSKCN20J0J5

But both the US and Japan messed up the 4 billion dollar aegis ashore deal; having said that, public support for striking enemy targets is finally starting to waver.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/aegis-ashore-japan-scraps-us-purchase-missile-defense-outrage-at-home-trump-distracted/

Australia along with India, Japan and US is participating in naval exercises

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/asia/australia-india-malabar-naval-exercises-intl-hnk-ml/index.html

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Aside from lukewarm support for the senkaku islands, Joe Biden will walk back most of the progress trump made militarily with Japan and India although there are mixed feelings on the tariffs.

Japan should definitely give the US more than 2 billion for the value of the land that they are protecting (senkaku is oil rich)

Japan should have taken Trump up on the proposal that Japan have its own nuclear deterrent. When Trump said that, as well as his badmouthing of NATO, it was clear that the US could not be trusted to fulfill its treaty obligations.

NATO is one thing. The Europeans outnumber the Russians 5 to 1, but if the US is iffy Japan needs to be able to protect its sea lanes itself.

I am worried about china taking over semiconductor expertise of Taiwan.
TSMC/UMC etc. should build fabs in US for diversification.

Taiwan/US should also keep explosives ready to "blow up" fabs if china ever near control of island.

farmer2021 says

I am worried about china taking over semiconductor expertise of Taiwan.
TSMC/UMC etc. should build fabs in US for diversification.

Taiwan/US should also keep explosives ready to "blow up" fabs if china ever near control of island.

Direct military action is not how China is getting the Taiwan expertise. It is old fashioned capitalism. They are paying the Taiwan workers more to work for China chipmakers than the Taiwanese are paying them. The Chinese will also steal any and all intellectual property they can, and they are good at that.

farmer2021 says

I am worried about china taking over semiconductor expertise of Taiwan.

^--- This

I'd be more worried about Xi Biden removing the restrictions in place on Huawei as well as America's propaganda against them.

Already the regulations against Tik-Tok have been abandoned.

ohomen171 says

Elena has been concerned

Lol

HunterTits says

Who cares about Taiwan?

Elena.

One good aspect is that this might drive much chip production back to the US.

Patrick says

One good aspect is that this might drive much chip production back to the US.

American sharp minds spend too much effort on silly software and casino economy of Silicon Valley.
It is hard to make good money in hard sciences.
It is failure of our system.

FuckCCP89 says

Who cares about Taiwan?

Elena.

i'm glad Elena isn't my muse. I'm sappy enough.

No amount of money should make China buy semiconductor expertise. I know How hard it is to develop and perfect this technology.
Software development especially social media is intelligence agency control apparatus and very easy to develop.
Europe needs to guard semiconductor technology. USA is run by idiots.

https://semiengineering.com/why-euv-is-so-difficult/

farmer2021 says

It is hard to make good money in hard sciences.

No it's not. I've made millions. Now, I'd agree with a modified statement, "It is hard to make good money in SOME hard sciences."

HunterTits says

Who cares about Taiwan?

Don't we have enough problems at home?

Nothing is going to happen in Taiwan any time soon. Not before the upcoming Beijing Olympics. Which we should boycott and peer pressure others into doing.

Patrick says

One good aspect is that this might drive much chip production back to the US.

It takes minimum 5 yrs to see production if it ever happens. It's a great start from national security point of view.

Blue says

Patrick says

One good aspect is that this might drive much chip production back to the US.

It takes minimum 5 yrs to see production if it ever happens. It's a great start from national security point of view.

If starting from scratch. Wouldn't be starting from scratch, though.

Blue says

It takes minimum 5 yrs to see production if it ever happens. It's a great start from national security point of view.

They can go warp speed on it.

Remember all the ventilators? AND we cured the cold in less than a year!

Onvacation says

They can go warp speed on it.

How long can it take, to build a fabrication facility, with existing know-how, proven technologies to build proven products, with existing infrastructure, and in some places, existing (idled) shells of buildings, compared to building the Manhattan Project which took more like three years?

Really. Five years is silly.

Patrick says

Misc says

Yes, they have an optics problem concerning their Uyghurs and their education efforts to bring this group into the 21st century, but we have similar problems concerning a large portion of the Blacks in this country.

This is a false claim.

US blacks are not in labor camps. It's not similar in the least.

No Patrick, I think you're wrong here.

If you're a white guy smoking crack cocaine, nothing happens to you especially if you have some wealth or celebrity.

If you're a poor black guy, you become slave labor.

Read the 13th amendment again, we really never eliminated slave labor. The PRINCIPLE reason that pot is sill illegal in most of the country, is because if it's legal, there would be a lot less slave labor in our for profit prison system.

richwicks says

If you're a poor black guy, you become slave labor.

Actually, no. At least in CA, most crime is decriminalized for whatever that is worth. For most petty crime or drug crime, no one goes to jail anymore.
Debt slave? You might have a point if you talked about child support laws...

The real "slavery" is where a man is forced to pay child support or go to jail. That impacts all poor regardless of race but blacks in particular because of the large number of broken families (though whites are catching up quickly). Men are forced to raise and support children they don't want if the woman gets pregnant - and she will "lie" and get pregnant in oder to grab onto that income. Worse case, the man doesn't provide enough - so she can get on benefits, etc...He still owes on his future income back to the child support system - it is a mafioso racket.

Note- Women can give up their children without penalty (drop off at a hospital within a certain period of time after birth, or push to an adoption center). Men cannot. And so on - the list is too numerous.... Even the EU has now decided that if a female is pregnant, she can adopt out the child without telling the natural father. And yet, if she decides to keep it, he is on the hook to support her and the child. This is coming the US soon as well...

Men are drafted - not women. Women do not have to sign up for the selective service.
Fewer and fewer men are going to college (women are close to 60%).
Etc...

By allowing unmarried women to control men's income as if they were married, society has encouraged the decline of marriage. Women get what they want whether they are married or not. So a lot of entrapment and lies and false/actual pregnancies happen....The laws are all tilted toward females - and men just let it happen. We have a matriarchy more than a patriarchy - no matter what the N.O.W. cows say...

Don't even talk about a sexual predator as a male or female in terms of jail time and life consequence. It is a joke.

Men are the real debt slaves outside of the alpha male 1%. Even then, you see ridiculous child support agreements (note these are not even married partners) that provide 30k a month to the child ( but is really spent by and for the mother).

Sad that we actually think the biggest disparity is "racial" - it is actually "gender".

richwicks says

If you're a white guy smoking crack cocaine, nothing happens to you especially if you have some wealth or celebrity.

Exhibit A: Hunter Biden

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10079319/China-won-AI-battle-U-S-Pentagons-ex-software-chief-says.html

The Pentagon's first software chief RESIGNS in protest because the US has 'already lost' the AI war with China and is '20 years behind its technology'
The Pentagon's first ever chief software officer Nicolas Chaillan said he resigned over U.S. inaction on technological developments in the military
He says China has already won the Artificial Intelligence battle
'Right now, it's already a done deal – it is already over in my opinion,' he said in an interview published Sunday. 'Whether it takes a war or not is kind of anecdotal'
Comments come as China threatened Taiwan with military action as it plans to 'reunify' with the island...

China, the world's second largest economy, is likely to dominate many of the key emerging technologies, particularly artificial intelligence, synthetic biology and genetics within a decade or so, according to Western intelligence assessments.

The communist nation is set to dominate the future of the world, controlling everything from media narratives to geopolitics, Chaillan said. ...

Tensions in Asia are high right now as the Chinese Communist Party detailed its intentions to reunify with Taiwan.

Chinese state media The Global Times threatened on Sunday that the CCP 'will have little choice but to take Taiwan to the battlefield' after the island's president, Tsai Ing-wen, vowed to resist 'threats' from Beijing.

Quoting from 'experts' within China , the paper accused 'secessionist' Tsai of stirring up tensions while warning that 'resisting reunification by force will only bring doom more quickly.'

This is all the inevitable result of the betrayal of America by American elites for decades.

They weakened us by outsourcing almost all US manufacturing to China, granting the Chinese a massive head start and devastating US businesses and jobs, all for their own short-term profits.

Trump told South Korea, Japan and Taiwan to get their own fucking nukes.

The US cannot be trusted.

Afghanistan showed that in spades. For 20 years we schooled Afghan women and said they could be what they wanted. Biden fucked up the withdrawal and pretty much condemned them to lives of slavery.

Any country not getting their own nukes at this point needs new leadership.

DonewithDebate says

I am worried about china taking over semiconductor expertise of Taiwan.
TSMC/UMC etc. should build fabs in US for diversification.

Taiwan/US should also keep explosives ready to "blow up" fabs if china ever near control of island.

We need to let in more illegals and train them then. Decades ago I worked security in a tech company. For the production lines they only hired female Asians and latinas, the thicker the accent, the better. They wouldn’t hire whites because they would unionize(although all the line supervisors were white males) and they wouldn’t hire blacks because of the socially inherrent difficulties.

Misc says

Trump told South Korea, Japan and Taiwan to get their own fucking nukes.

The US cannot be trusted.

Afghanistan showed that in spades. For 20 years we schooled Afghan women and said they could be what they wanted. Biden fucked up the withdrawal and pretty much condemned them to lives of slavery.

Any country not getting their own nukes at this point needs new leadership.

I don’t want anyone else getting nukes and we(the US and our allies….and from the other perspective China and their allies) should be doing everything we can including espionage and military action to stop other nations from developing nukes.

What imbecile wants everyone and their mother holding nukes? I could give two craps about fairness or whatever hippy dippy stupid notion someone has about “fairness”.

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richwicks says

Patrick says

Misc says

Yes, they have an optics problem concerning their Uyghurs and their education efforts to bring this group into the 21st century, but we have similar problems concerning a large portion of the Blacks in this country.

This is a false claim.

US blacks are not in labor camps. It's not similar in the least.

No Patrick, I think you're wrong here.

If you're a white guy smoking crack cocaine, nothing happens to you especially if you have some wealth or celebrity.

If you're a poor black guy, you become slave labor.

Read the 13th amendment again, we really never eliminated slave labor. The PRINCIPLE reason that pot is sill illegal in most of the country, is because if it's legal, there would be a lot less slave labor in our for profit prison system.

You are way off the mark here, at least in California. If you are a drug user, and not a dealer, you get multiple shots at rehab. Nearly every county in California has a “drug” court that monitors such offenders…you get arrested for cocaine possession, or even a low level sales amount…you go to drug court. If you plead, you get terms to complete including completing a drug program and staying clean. If you complete all of it, at the end of a year or two the court overturns the plea, reduces it to a misdemeanor charge and you are on your merry way. Under current California law you can even petition to have the record sealed under PC 851.91, making it as though the arrest never occurred.

This idea that there’s all kinds of low level drug users in prison is absolutely false, at least as far as California goes, and a pretty huge propaganda snowjob.

What is true is two fold….

1.) A LOT of drug users commit other crimes, some of which are serious enough to garner real prison time. However that does not mean they are in prison because they are drug user.

2.) I know factually that the feds will toss drug users in prison if they are trying to get a bigger fish and want to use the user for leverage. The most public example I know of is professional poker player Mike Matasow, who served about ten months federal prison time.

One more thing…every article that’s ever appeared in Rolling Stone on the topic has lied on factual matters multiple times. They’ve run several articles and I don’t know where they get their data from, but it’s not only wrong, it’s actually completely fabricated.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

every article that’s ever appeared in Rolling Stone on the topic has lied on factual matters multiple times. They’ve run several articles and I don’t know where they get their data from, but it’s not only wrong, it’s actually completely fabricated.

Rolling Stone has been caught with several of its articles being outright lies, not just about drugs.

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-reassures-taiwan-chinese-invasion-is-just-part-of-the-process

WASHINGTON, D.C.—Amid a series of troublesome violations of Taiwan's air defence zone by China, President Biden took to the airwaves to address some of the concerns that the free country of Taiwan might be in danger of being invaded by the brutal Chinese communist state.

"Nothing to worry about folks, invasion is all part of the process. Happens all the time," said Biden. "If China invades Taiwan, we'll be sure to get everyone out of there, just like we did Afghanistan! And then we'll leave 80 billion dollars of weapons for the Chinese to use as sort of a housewarming gift. It's the least I can do for President Xi after he bought one of my son Hunter's paintings!"

The press pool erupted into chaos as Biden was dragged offstage by aides.

"The president was just kidding," said Psaki. "The U.S. will always remain true to our allies, and if we don't we'll just circle back to that later."

When the press continued to shout questions, Psaki responded by diving out a window.

President Xi announced that he can't wait to welcome back the people of Taiwan to the warm and loving embrace of Communism and then murder everyone.

From The Wealth of Nations:

The canton of Berne derives a considerable revenue by lending a part of its treasure to foreign states; that is, by placing it in the public funds of the different indebted nations of Europe, chiefly in those of France and England. The security of this revenue must depend, first, upon the security of the funds in which it is placed, or upon the good faith of the government which has the management of them; and, secondly, upon the certainty or probability of the continuance of peace with the debtor nation. In the case of a war, the very first act of hostility, on the part of the debtor nation, might be the forfeiture of the funds of its creditor.

So if China goes to war with the US, the very first act of the US would be to nullify our debts to China.

Attacking Taiwan would spell death for the mainland government. CCP knows this so they don't, rather just bide time and play under-handed games until hopefully the attack models are reliable. A less expensive approach is to buy influence which they seem to be doing fairly well.