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I gave up on things happening the way I think they should.

I hang the over/under line at 85% for acquittal or mistrial and 15% conviction on something (lay -850 for acquittal, take +150 for conviction). My money line on riots and property destruction no matter what the trial's outcome is -5000 for riots and +200 for nothing to happen.

I hope for an acquittal. Mostly because TPTB have done everything they could to influence the outcome. He is being railroaded imo. It seems he followed his training. Who, exactly is in charge of police training anyway? Don't elected officials have a say? If so, THEY are the guilty ones imo.

Now, about the female cop who accidently shot that guy. I hope she gets found guilty of something. If you or I made a mistake like that, what do you think would happen to us? Cops should not have qualified immunity.

Kepi says

My money line on riots and property destruction no matter what the trial's outcome is -5000 for riots and +200 for nothing to happen.

"I don't care who wins. I'm going to be jumping on somebodies car tonight"
Raider Fan about plans after the game.

If Chauvin is acquitted, it proves we live in a racist, White Supremacist state that needs wokey.
If Chauvin is found guilty, it proves we live in a racist, White Supremacist state that needs wokey.

Maxine Water's visit to Minneapolis this weekend (when the jury was at home) was engineered to school the 50% non-white jury with exactly what was expected and what was at risk. They would surely be doxxed and their lives would be ruined with an acquittal.

I think cops should be trained to call in the K9 guys if they don’t have the ability to cuff a perp.

clambo says

I think cops should be trained to call in the K9 guys if they don’t have the ability to cuff a perp.

They need something, Floyd was at least 6-foot-4 and weighed 230 pounds. The largest police officer on the scene was Chauvin, coming in at 5-foot-9 and 140 pounds.

Need pit bull k9 so it's not racist.

GreaterNYCDude says

I haven't been following all that closely, but I think he gets off. (Mostly peaceful) riots to follow... 😞

Not so sure. It was a rather weak defense. Though that might be because they got one juror they recognized as an advocate and get a hung jury. I've got $100 on it with my buddies dad, but I don't think the defense did all that well. I'll probably lose.

I also haven't watched much myself. From reports though I felt it was kind of a weak defense. We'll see. He won't be guilty on all charges and riots will break out anyway this case breaks. They'll charge him with something. Even if it's all guilty, it's just verification that BLM was "right" and they'll riot anyway. This is a 100% lose lose situation. Get your guns ready if you live in a city either way. Sad we have to live this way.

WookieMan says

This is a 100% lose lose situation.

Orchestrated by the powers that be to further divide us by ideology. Enabled by the media. Many Floyd supporters don't know he overdosed.

clambo says

I think cops should be trained to call in the K9 guys if they don’t have the ability to cuff a perp.

I think the use of K9s and batons has been reduced or eliminated because of supposed "racist connotations" they allegedly invoked. The need to use chokeholds and judo neck pressure has arised because the good old "hit them in shoulders and thighs with a batton" method of achieving compliance has been eliminated.

Hung jury. Like, literally, a hung jury. Survivors will need to move away.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/minn-lawmaker-proposes-revoking-convicted-protesters-student-loans-food-stamps-n1264549

A Minnesota lawmaker introduced legislation to punish any person convicted of crimes in connection with a protest by making them ineligible for state government assistance — including food stamps, student loans, unemployment benefits and health care.

Patrick says

A Minnesota lawmaker introduced legislation to punish any person convicted of crimes in connection with a protest by making them ineligible for state government assistance — including food stamps, student loans, unemployment benefits and health care.

They will run around it by shuffling thugs between states.

WookieMan says

GreaterNYCDude says

I haven't been following all that closely, but I think he gets off. (Mostly peaceful) riots to follow... 😞

Not so sure. It was a rather weak defense. Though that might be because they got one juror they recognized as an advocate and get a hung jury. I've got $100 on it with my buddies dad, but I don't think the defense did all that well. I'll probably lose.

I also haven't watched much myself. From reports though I felt it was kind of a weak defense. We'll see. He won't be guilty on all charges and riots will break out anyway this case breaks. They'll charge him with something. Even if it's all guilty, it's just verification that BLM was "right" and they'll riot anyway. This is a 100% lose lose situation. Get your guns ready if you live in a city either way. Sad we have to live this way.

Riots can easily be avoided. Will the limp dick Democrat Mayors take the necessary actions to avoid riots? Probably not. But they can easily be avoided by mobilizing the national guard and stopping this Peaceful Protestor tm bullshit.

I didn't think there would be that much riot because the return on investment for the Soros KommieFucks didn't seem to be there.

I guess every day is a good day to have an excuse to break into stores and steal.

Ceffer says

Hung jury. Like, literally, a hung jury. Survivors will need to move away.

That is quite likely. In every sense of the term. The trial coverage more resembles a Lynch mob than any sort of objective reporting.

And yet, there’s oceans of reasonable doubt in play. All it’s going to take is one juror who is stubborn enough to buck the Narrative, or maybe just one juror who is sick of BLM riots destroying their city

Onvacation says

Many Floyd supporters don't know he overdosed.

This is why I made the bet. I have a name that could be said 3 ways. He gave me the childhood name. That's when I knew he didn't know he OD'd. So proposed the bet.

Unfortunately I'm not a fan of how the defense presented the case. Although I don't know how someone can convict the guy with the precluding evidence, video and knowing his death was an OD. You can't put another person behind bars for basically the rest of their life on an unknown. Floyd could have died in the back of the squad car. Not sure the prosecution proved that or that he wasn't going to die anyway. This one is tricky.

Ultimately the jury will be guilted into convicting him on everything and I'll owe $100. The money is nothing. What scares me more is the media. You're no longer innocent until proven guilty. The media just makes you guilty. The coming cop shortage is going to be staggering.

WookieMan says

The coming cop shortage is going to be staggering.

And the cops who remain on the force will be very reluctant to arrest Black perps.

Verdict @ 4:30pm ET.

Looks like jury intimidation worked.

I think they’ll sacrifice him to the mob. Too much money and intimidation already vested into his conviction.

HunterTits says

if there is no conviction or a hung jury,

They are coming back too fast for that. I'm afraid it's a full conviction, just like fucking Maxine demanded.

Verdict is supposedly in, and will be announced at 5:00 EST.

I think he is going to get off. Riots at 11. There is a reason for the reading of the verdict to be delayed. They want to get the police and National Guard in place.

Let Minneapolis burn as long as the suburbs stay safe.

His brother felonious floyd is waiting for check.

MAGA says

I think he is going to get off. Riots at 11. There is a reason for the reading of the verdict to be delayed. They want to get the police and National Guard in place.

Let Minneapolis burn as long as the suburbs stay safe.

I just saw this bit of news.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2021/04/20/derek-chauvin-jury-reaches-verdict-george-floyd-death-trial/

Golly, I just don't know. We will find out soon enough, but before we do, can anyone give some insight into a jury only deliberating for 11 hours and reaching a verdict? Does that lean toward acquittal or conviction?

Trial should be thrown out after Maxine waters and Biden's comments.

Chavin was just found guilty on 2nd and 3rd degree murder charges.

This is what you get when you allow your government to allow criminals walk, and innocent people to be convicted - for decades.

RC2006 says

Trial should be thrown out after Maxine waters and Biden's comments.

Word.

Looks like he was found guilty of Third Degree Murder, 2nd degree murder and man slaughter . Carries a maximum of 25 years in Minnesota.

I’m pretty certain this case will be appealed.

Guilty on all three charges. Maxine got her wish.

RC2006 says

His brother felonious floyd is waiting for check.

Didn't he just collect $27M? Not enough?

richwicks says

Chavin was just found guilty on 2nd and 3rd degree murder charges.

Yikes! I am glad I did not actually make book on my betting line.

FuckCCP89 says

Guilty on all three charges.

Appeal is already starting.

And the rioters are already there, what the hell, they might as well have a celebration riot.

Shaman says

Looks like he was found guilty of Third Degree Murder. Carries a maximum of 25 years in Minnesota. He will probably be out in five.

Immediate appeal based on Maxine Waters inflammatory comments, jury tampering.

Onvacation says

Appeal is already starting.

As it should.

Fuck Maxine Waters.

rocketjoe79 says

Immediate appeal based on Maxine Waters inflammatory comments, jury tampering.

Lack of granting request for change of venue, jury intimidation, and even old Joementia chimed in today expressing his wish that the “right” verdict will be reached.

Judge said defense was handed lifeline by Waters. Politicians and mobs can't be allowed to control courts this blatantly.

It'll be overturned on appeal. The judge and the defense were clearly setting it up that way, get some distance from the contaminated venue.