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joshuatrio says

You may get your vaccine, but at least I don't (and won't) have HERPES!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"A recent study published on Apr. 12 has found that a possible side effect of the coronavirus vaccines might be linked to herpes zoster.


The study done by researchers from the Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center and Carmel Medical Center in Haifa, Israel showed that patients who had been diagnosed with an autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic disease (AIRD) were more likely to contract herpes zoster, The Jerusalem Post reported.

Herpes zoster, also known as shingles, is a red, itchy, and painful rash that can cause nerve damage and additional pain if not treated, according to the Jerusalem Post."

https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/20/coronavirus-vaccine-linked-to-herpes-zoster-patients-autoimmune-rheumatic-disease/

If you never had chicken pox you can't get shingles as it's caused by the same virus, so "contract herpes zoster" should really read "develop herpes zoster" since one already contracted the virus long ago. But not surprised about the myriad of side effects, esp. on the auto-immune side. Not a single reason to get vaxxed at this point unless you're at extremely high risk of serious complications from covid. But hey, there's a shingles vaccine and a vaccine for that vaccine and so on! Just keep on jabbing lol ;)

mell says

If you never had chicken pox you can get shingles as it's caused by the same virus

I think it's the other way around: if had chicken pox in the past you'll have immunity from it and will get shingles later in life. If you haven't had CP you'll have chickenpox if exposed to it (and may die if over 25).

FuckCCP89 says

if had chicken pox in the past you'll have immunity from it and will get shingles later in life.

Correct.

Yes, it's very dangerous to contract as an adult which is (was?) the reason for chicken pox parties for kids. I hadn't heard death was a possibility but infertility was one if I recall.

HeadSet says

the flyover guy loves his area's four distinct seasons and the best on Earth pulled pork at Big Fat Daryl's Beanery and Firing Range.

Now I’m both jealous AND hungry! Wish we had a Darryl’s!

FuckCCP89 says

mell says

If you never had chicken pox you can get shingles as it's caused by the same virus

I think it's the other way around: if had chicken pox in the past you'll have immunity from it and will get shingles later in life. If you haven't had CP you'll have chickenpox if exposed to it (and may die if over 25).

Yeah can was supposed to read can't. Fixed.
And yeah def better to have had CP and be at risk for shingles than contracting CP late in life. That's another problems with the vaccine fanatics and pushers, if you vaccinate against everything you need to keep boosting throughout your life which increases cumulative side effects and people often forget to get the boosters for childhood diseases they never had, and they are in for a serious ride if they contract them later in iife. Most are just better to get over with early on as a kid.

just_passing_through says

FuckCCP89 says

if had chicken pox in the past you'll have immunity from it and will get shingles later in life.

Correct.

Yes, it's very dangerous to contract as an adult which is (was?) the reason for chicken pox parties for kids. I hadn't heard death was a possibility but infertility was one if I recall.

AFAIK there's only one childhood disease which goes the reverse, i.e. from serious to harmless as one ages, and that is pertussis (whooping cough). I'm glad I had most (if not all) of them as a kid. Nothing like natural immunity.

WookieMan says

Onvacation says

WookieMan says

Your entertainment is then riding a bike or a dog.

The bike, I'd rather ride the bike than the dog.

Did you log out???

Thats different, you quoted it. In my example nobody quoted it which showed me that onvacation reads my comments while being logged out and then references them :)
So, the ignores dont mean much because anyone who has me on ignore can still read all my posts and comments.

As far as the doggy and the bike goes....Just came back from a long walk with the doggy....love working from home. Doggy's having a blast chasing squirrels.

For the weekend I am planning a long bike ride with the boys. Not sure where yet but I am sure it will be awesome and the weather will be perfect.

Bitcoin says

Just came back from a long walk with the doggy

You said you have a pool. Throw a ball in the back yard. Plenty of energy to get out of a dog. And let them swim if it's so nice in Socal. My dog gets ripped from swimming. Lean and strong at 12 years old.

Or you don't have a pool or a fenced yard, which is what my instinct is telling me. You don't walk dogs if you have that. Code usually requires a fenced yard. So yeah, calling BS.

Just think about what's actually being injected in your body....

joshuatrio says

You may get your vaccine, but at least I don't (and won't) have HERPES!!!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"A recent study published on Apr. 12 has found that a possible side effect of the coronavirus vaccines might be linked to herpes zoster.


The study done by researchers from the Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center and Carmel Medical Center in Haifa, Israel showed that patients who had been diagnosed with an autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic disease (AIRD) were more likely to contract herpes zoster, The Jerusalem Post reported.

Herpes zoster, also known as shingles, is a red, itchy, and painful rash that can cause nerve damage and additional pain if not treated, according to the Jerusalem Post."

https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/20/coronavirus-vaccine-linked-to-herpes-zoster-patients-autoimmune-rheumatic-disease/

Holy shit, talk about hyperbole. Why not just say Shingles?

WineHorror1 says

Holy shit, talk about hyperbole. Why not just say Shingles?

Because science!

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

Just came back from a long walk with the doggy

You said you have a pool. Throw a ball in the back yard. Plenty of energy to get out of a dog.

Yeah, but I love walking the doggy....I work from home and welcome going on walks....enjoying the views and often meet other dog owners. Also, I imagine its much more exciting for my doggy to meet other doggies and people and squirrel and smells and, and, and...

mell says

You may get your vaccine, but at least I don't (and won't) have HERPES!!!!!

Oh crap, now I get herpes too?

Whats the timeline on it?
I know 6 months after taking the vaccine its dementia and within 1-2 years death. In between blood clot and now herpes. That really stinks.

MOTHER PARALYZED AFTER PFIZER VACCINE

Enjoy your jab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vaccine Safety studies destroyed:

*Makers of COVID-19 vaccines are now destroying long-term safety studies by unblinding their trials and giving the control groups the active vaccine, claiming it is “unethical” to withhold an effective vaccine
In so doing, they make it virtually impossible to assess any long-term safety and effectiveness, and the true benefit versus cost
*It’s ironic, because vaccine mandates are being justified on the premise that the benefit to the community is more important than an individual’s risk of harm. Yet vaccine manufacturers are saying that participants in the control groups are harmed by not getting the vaccine, and saving the individual is more important than securing the data needed to make public health decisions
*Getting the active vaccine comes with risk, not merely benefit. This is particularly true for the novel mRNA technology used in COVID-19 vaccines
*As of April 1, 2021, VAERS had received 56,869 adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination, including 7,971 serious injuries and 2,342 deaths. Of those deaths, 28% occurred within 48 hours of vaccination. The youngest person to die was 18 years old

https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/04/20/vaccine-makers-destroy-covid-vaccine-safety-studies/

Enjoy your jab... Not touching this with a 100ft pole.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/04/22/joe-biden-threatens-to-cancel-july-4th-if-americans-choose-to-not-get-vaccinated/

Joe Biden Threatens to ‘Cancel’ July 4th if Americans Choose to Not Get Vaccinated

https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/04/its-not-working-86-million-vaccinated-yet-daily-covid-19-cases-are-the-same-as-they-were-in-february

It’s not working: 86 million vaccinated, yet daily Covid-19 cases are the same as they were in February

joshuatrio says

Enjoy your jab... Not touching this with a 100ft pole.

Intelligence. Hard to come by now a days. The reality is people don't understand how trivial covid itself is. Even if the vaccine was proven 100% safe, you DON'T even need it. "Maybe" the elderly or massively obese people.

If you want it or take it I'm not going to shit on anyone for doing that. I don't agree much with Bitcoin, but he's right when he says your body your choice. I'll just say it's silly to take it if you're 50 or under. That's not a dig at those that have taken it. I have no interest in controlling other people and what they do to their own body. Other decisions I'll have some opinions for sure.

zzyzzx says

https://amgreatness.com/2021/04/22/joe-biden-threatens-to-cancel-july-4th-if-americans-choose-to-not-get-vaccinated/

Joe Biden Threatens to ‘Cancel’ July 4th if Americans Choose to Not Get Vaccinated

"On Wednesday, Joe Biden warned that Americans may be forced to cancel their plans for celebrating the 4th of July this year..."

You and what army, Joe?

FuckCCP89 says

zzyzzx says

https://amgreatness.com/2021/04/22/joe-biden-threatens-to-cancel-july-4th-if-americans-choose-to-not-get-vaccinated/

Joe Biden Threatens to ‘Cancel’ July 4th if Americans Choose to Not Get Vaccinated

"On Wednesday, Joe Biden warned that Americans may be forced to cancel their plans for celebrating the 4th of July this year..."

You and what army, Joe?

Rush hour in ATL is back to what it was a pre-covid with insane traffic jams again. Joe/Kamala don't understand that people just don't take the gov't seriously anymore.

Which human body cells create the spikey proteins?

Does anyone know how the experimental biologic agent is supposed to work?

ThreeBays says

It's not the same everywhere. Maybe look at why Michigan is so red?

What is your theory on why it's red? My county on that map is reddish. I have not heard of anyone recently being tested positive. I know a lot of people. Maybe the vaccine works, fine. We were nearing herd immunity WITH a lockdown and mask wearing. This could have all been done with last October. Protect the elderly and weak.

It astounds me to this day that people don't get basic biology and science. If 10 people got it and you locked them up, fine you could have stopped this. Thousands got this. It was never going away by hiding or masking up. Cat out of the bag. You either live or die. How hard is this to understand? Factor in it's an absolutely trivial illness for 90% of people that get it. I don't know, maybe math and stats can be misinterpreted?

joshuatrio says

MOTHER PARALYZED AFTER PFIZER VACCINE

Enjoy your jab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She's a hottie. I hope the experimental biological agent doesn't take away her natural beauty and vigor - would be a shame. Why on earth does a healthy young mother need to take this shit? This is just criminal at this point to lure or coerce people init thinking this shit is good for them. Here's to a speedy recovery (but even when it happens it will take a while for motoric skills and strength to come back)!

Onvacation says

Does anyone know how the experimental biologic agent is supposed to work?

Of course. Once injected it starts with blood clot and herpes. After a few month you can add dementia and after a year its your funeral. In between you will be paralyzed but there is somewhat good news: Since you have dementia you wont know that you were not paralyzed before the deadly shot.

I got the J&J and so far so good. Not even herpes yet. Something did not work as planned.

Onvacation says

Which human body cells create the spikey proteins?

Does anyone know how the experimental biologic agent is supposed to work?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderna_COVID-19_vaccine

From the article

In January 2020, Moderna announced development of an RNA vaccine, named mRNA-1273, to induce immunity to SARS-CoV-2.[33][34][35] Moderna's technology uses a nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA) compound named mRNA-1273. Once the compound is inside a human cell, the mRNA links up with the cell's endoplasmic reticulum. The mRNA-1273 is encoded to trigger the cell into making a specific protein using the cell's normal manufacturing process. The vaccine encodes a version of the spike protein with a modification called 2P, in which the protein includes two stabilizing mutations in which the original amino acids are replaced with prolines, developed by researchers at the University of Texas at Austin and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases' Vaccine Research Center.[36][37][38][39] Once the protein is expelled from the cell, it is eventually detected by the immune system, which begins generating efficacious antibodies. The mRNA-1273 drug delivery system uses a PEGylated lipid nanoparticle drug delivery (LNP) system.[40]

Does that make you feel better about wanting to take it?

mell says

joshuatrio says

MOTHER PARALYZED AFTER PFIZER VACCINE

Enjoy your jab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She's a hottie. I hope the experimental biological agent doesn't take away her natural beauty and vigor - would be a shame. Why on earth does a healthy young mother need to take this shit? This is just criminal at this point to lure or coerce people init thinking this shit is good for them. Here's to a speedy recovery (but even when it happens it will take a while for motoric skills and strength to come back)!

What's crazy is the paralysis is becoming more and more common. I'm seeing it in the FB group regarding the side effects of covid 19.

joshuatrio says

I'm seeing it in the FB group regarding the side effects of covid 19.

But how do you know which comments are real or fake? I am on several investment groups on FB.....You cant take it seriously. People troll the shit out of those groups.

Bitcoin says

joshuatrio says

I'm seeing it in the FB group regarding the side effects of covid 19.

But how do you know which comments are real or fake? I am on several investment groups on FB.....You cant take it seriously. People troll the shit out of those groups.

I slightly agree with you, but FB also is generally a name to a face. As in you can't hide behind your comments. People will know who you are. Friends and family will see your comments and call out your bull shit. It's not ironclad, but FB generally has true feelings and comments. It's too easy for others to call you out that know you. Part of why it's so toxic. You learn a lot about people that you didn't know.

Misc says

The mRNA-1273 is encoded to trigger the cell into making a specific protein using the cell's normal manufacturing process

Which cells? All of them?Misc says

Does that make you feel better about wanting to take it?

No.

All of the jabees who think they are now 'safe' because they got the jab and think they have their freedoms back: vaccine passports will expire within months, and to be renewed, need more and more jabs for all the fake new strains they will fantasize.

Yeah, you got a few months of so-called 'freedom' before they require the next jab, then the next, then the next until you are well and truly fucked by them.

So, your jab didn't actually buy you the freedom they promised, didn't keep you from wearing a mask, didn't keep you from catching anything, won't allow you to congregate, and won't keep them from regarding and treating you as infectious anyway in a very short period of time.

Congratulations, comrade, on conforming to the will of Big Brother.

Onvacation says

Misc says

The mRNA-1273 is encoded to trigger the cell into making a specific protein using the cell's normal manufacturing process

Which cells? All of them?Misc says

Does that make you feel better about wanting to take it?

No.

I get being old, but if you're healthy and under 50, covid should be of no concern. At all. If you're not healthy you should work on that before taking a vaccine. You'll die from something else before covid almost 100% of the time. Covid is nothing.

"You got the jab and are feeling a little peaked? And, what, you want your freedoms back as promised? You NEVER stop believing the lies, HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH! We won't EVER give you your fucking freedoms back. You are looking too healthy and frisky, time for some NEW jabs! HAAHAHAHAHHAH!"

ThreeBays says

Maybe look at why Michigan is so red?

because they have stricter mask mandates and shutdowns that FL and TX, no?

WookieMan says

Bitcoin says

joshuatrio says

I'm seeing it in the FB group regarding the side effects of covid 19.

But how do you know which comments are real or fake? I am on several investment groups on FB.....You cant take it seriously. People troll the shit out of those groups.

I slightly agree with you, but FB also is generally a name to a face

But, when you are in a FB group and your friends/family are not in that same group as a member, they wont see anything you write/like/post in that particular group.

My experience has been that the investment groups on FB are full of BS and trolls. I dont know if the people doing it are real or fake profiles....hope I am not sounding racist but there is actually a pattern of weird names (often arabic) posting this shit on the groups. Its impossible for an admin to actually figure out what is really trolling or stupidity.

I havent been on any Covid/covid vaccine groups on FB....i could see that there are trolls as well especially because this is such a hot topic. You dont know anymore whats BS and whats real on social media.

Ceffer says

"You got the jab and are feeling a little peaked? And, what, you want your freedoms back as promised? You NEVER stop believing the lies, HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH! We won't EVER give you your fucking freedoms back. You are looking too healthy and frisky, time for some NEW jabs! HAAHAHAHAHHAH!"

Had conversations with few in India. People are getting infected who got vaccinated! At my neighborhood pretty much all going through pain who got jab. One woman ended up in urgent care and went through ct scan for the unstoppable a week long headaches and body pains. Good that she says is ok now. Once reply in the thread about pains was 'if you are going through pains means the vaccine is working' lol!

Bitcoin says

But, when you are in a FB group and your friends/family are not in that same group as a member, they wont see anything you write/like/post in that particular group.

Depends on the group. I don't use FB often. Some groups are wide open though, I know that for sure. I have a few groups I run currently for trips we're going on. Even in a closed group though generally people know each other. If they're BS'ing they may not get called out, but it will bring into question the integrity of the person BS'ing even if nothing is said.

I don't like FB, but it has it's place. We have 30+ people going to St. Thomas in October. It does serve a function for organizing people as much as I hate it.

ThreeBays says

Since vaccines were prioritized for 65+ until recently, I think a better indicator may be to look at number of deaths instead of new cases. Deaths are down by a lot since February. Most new cases are in the younger population and vaccines just started going in arms for 18-64 recently. It takes 5-6 weeks to be fully vaccinated.

Not saying vaccines don't work. And thank you for a cordial response. The "outbreaks" have been sooooo god damn random though. Regardless of vaccination rates. We go south for spring break. So do people from Michigan. Yet FL has no hot spots besides south FL.

I don't know in all honesty. The pattern of outbreaks and cases leads me to believe this is bull shit. Michigan is a hot spot, but FL where millions of people vacation for spring break, is wide open, is basically below average. It doesn't make sense on the surface.

The anti-vaxxers believe that there is not any bad information flying around the internet with regards to their anti-vax position.

There is just as much misinformation for an anti-vax position as there is for a pro-vax position.

Most people do not die from the flu, but millions get their yearly flu shot.

Most people survive the measles (only about 1-2 per thousand die)

https://www.google.com/search?q=measles+mortality+rate&sxsrf=ALeKk01n1MoDb3FV2CjyZ0nBI9QgidQ71g%3A1619125884778&source=hp&ei=fOaBYJqdLKWS0PEP9seP6As&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYIH0jO0Y1gbpMXCMhASwnb80aHSSYZcg&oq=measels+mor&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjIECAAQCjoHCCMQ6gIQJzoECCMQJzoFCAAQkQI6CAgAELEDEIMBOgUIABCxAzoLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAguELEDEIMBOgQIABADOg4ILhDHARCvARCRAhCTAjoLCC4QxwEQrwEQkQI6BAgAEEM6BwguELEDEEM6CggAELEDEIMBEEM6BQguELEDOgcIABCxAxBDOgIIADoNCC4QsQMQxwEQrwEQQzoICC4QxwEQrwE6BwgAELEDEApQkhRY80lgn19oAXAAeACAAaYBiAHaCZIBBDEuMTCYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEK&sclient=gws-wiz

Mumps? --- about 5 per thousand die

Yes, we mandatorily vaccinate for these if you want your children to participate in schools.

The death rate for most contagious diseases is a "NOTHINGBURGER"

As a 1st world nation, we do not want communicable diseases to swoosh through our society. Even 3rd world nations would prefer to not have this happen.

Has Covid been hyped? --- No shit

Have the mysterious "them" falsified the millions of patients that have been hospitalized with it? ------ Obviously not

Misc says

As a 1st world nation, we do not want communicable diseases to swoosh through our society. Even 3rd world nations would prefer to not have this happen.

Has Covid been hyped? --- No shit

spot on....100% agree. just because this was a scamdemic doesnt mean there is this huge conspiracy behind the vaccine....if you dont feel comfortable taking it then please.....dont.
Having a vaccine is a good thing IMO. I rather have a vaccine by an American multinational pharmaceutical corporation then get Covid. People always say, but you dont die from it (covid). Okay, so, just because I dont die from it doesnt mean I want it.....I like to think the flu shot has protected me from getting the flu. Getting the flu prevents me from biking, hiking, pool time and walking my doggy. My uncle was in great shape but he had health issues since he caught covid. could be co-incidence but why take the chance? I rather take the chance of getting a vaccine. But, your body, your choice.