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2021 May 9, 10:24pm 81,721 views 629 comments

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/05/09/update-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19/

Back in January I wrote an article about four randomized controlled trials of ivermectin as a treatment for covid-19 that had at that time released their results to the public. Each of those four trials had promising results, but each was also too small individually to show any meaningful impact on the hard outcomes we really care about, like death. When I meta-analyzed them together however, the results suddenly appeared very impressive. Here’s what that meta-analysis looked like:

It showed a massive 78% reduction in mortality in patients treated with covid-19. Mortality is the hardest of hard end points, which means it’s the hardest for researchers to manipulate and therefore the least open to bias. Either someone’s dead, or they’re alive. End of story.

You would have thought that this strong overall signal of benefit in the midst of a pandemic would have mobilized the powers that be to arrange multiple large randomized trials to confirm these results as quickly as possible, and that the major medical journals would be falling over each other to be the first to publish these studies.

That hasn’t happened.

Rather the opposite, in fact. South Africa has even gone so far as to ban doctors from using ivermectin on covid-19 patients. And as far as I can tell, most of the discussion about ivermectin in mainstream media (and in the medical press) has centred not around its relative merits, but more around how its proponents are clearly deluded tin foil hat wearing crazies who are using social media to manipulate the masses.

In spite of this, trial results have continued to appear. That means we should now be able to conclude with even greater certainty whether or not ivermectin is effective against covid-19. Since there are so many of these trials popping up now, I’ve decided to limit the discussion here only to the ones I’ve been able to find that had at least 150 participants, and that compared ivermectin to placebo (although I’ll add even the smaller trials I’ve found in to the updated meta-analysis at the end).

As before, it appears that rich western countries have very little interest in studying ivermectin as a treatment for covid. The three new trials that had at least 150 participants and compared ivermectin with placebo were conducted in Colombia, Iran, and Argentina. We’ll go through each in turn. ...

What we see is a 62% reduction in the relative risk of dying among covid patients treated with ivermectin. That would mean that ivermectin prevents roughly three out of five covid deaths. The reduction is statistically significant (p-value 0,004). In other words, the weight of evidence supporting ivermectin continues to pile up. It is now far stronger than the evidence that led to widespred use of remdesivir earlier in the pandemic, and the effect is much larger and more important (remdesivir was only ever shown to marginally decrease length of hospital stay, it was never shown to have any effect on risk of dying).

I understand why pharmaceutical companies don’t like ivermectin. It’s a cheap generic drug. Even Merck, the company that invented ivermectin, is doing it’s best to destroy the drug’s reputation at the moment. This can only be explained by the fact that Merck is currently developing two expensive new covid drugs, and doesn’t want an off-patent drug, which it can no longer make any profit from, competing with them.

The only reason I can think to understand why the broader medical establishment, however, is still so anti-ivermectin is that these studies have all been done outside the rich west. Apparently doctors and scientists outside North America and Western Europe can’t be trusted, unless they’re saying things that are in line with our pre-conceived notions.

And HCQ falls into that same bucket. Even worse - to admit HCQ works would be to admit Trump was right about something.

Liberals would rather that millions die than that Trump be allowed to be right about anything. They hate Trump more than they love their fellow humans.

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Patrick 2021 Aug 20, 3:13pm

original link

57 Robert Sproul 2021 Aug 31, 2:51pm

Robert Sproul says

For anyone interested, I finally found a source for ‘mectin that is easy to navigate and with easy payment options. Not the cheapest prices, but not gouging Westerners like some sources seem to be set up to do. Pay with PayPal, as I did, or credit card instead of cumbersome bank transfer boondoggles. I ordered a full compliment of FLCCC recommended early treatment medications. Free shipping over 200 bucks. Response was within hours and order fulfillment in 1 day. Now I wait for 20-30 days for delivery. I will report at that time.
https://www.genericcures.com

Follow up.
Order came in 2 weeks, well packaged, looks super legit. Apparently some packages have been getting intercepted by USPS, which shows them to be among the forces arrayed trying to KILL US. This package was marked "pharmaceuticals, personal use" and had no problem.
Somebody said "eew India drugs" and I pointed out that most drugs, or at least precursor chemicals, come from India. My household is not on any regular medications but my wife keeps and uses a steroid rescue inhaler (due to childhood asthma coming back with last years wildfire smoke season [I gotta get out of here]) which are costing us a hundred bucks with discount coupons. These guys are selling them for $15 so I might order some up.

58 mell 2021 Aug 31, 3:22pm

Patrick says

original link

Awesome interview. That man knows what he is talking about.

AmericanKulak 2021 Aug 31, 4:00pm

The good news about Mail Order Pharma being common is that now the government no longer considers ordinary meds in the mail to be suspicious, and can't possibly open and inspect them all.

60 Robert Sproul 2021 Aug 31, 4:32pm

mell says

That man knows what he is talking about.

I like this Urso dude, watched the vid and scrolling his twitter feed.
Dr. Urso
@richardursomd
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Aug 7
During the epidemic, 49,000 Americans under the age of 18 have died of all causes. Only 331 from COVID, almost all with comorbidities. Fewer kids died of COVID-19 than heart disease, “malignant neoplasms,” suicide, homicide and birth defects, which killed hundreds of times more.

Rin 2021 Aug 31, 7:00pm

People, the shithead is back! The Great Anthony Fauci is telling you ... not to take Ivermectin

https://www.ibtimes.com/what-ivermectin-dr-fauci-warns-against-taking-horse-drug-covid-treatment-amid-tragic-3283389

Tony says: "And it could potentially have toxicity, as you just mentioned, with people who have gone to poison control centers because they’ve taken the drug at a ridiculous dose and wind up getting sick," he explained. “There is no clinical evidence that indicates that this works."

Rin responds to Tony: "Hey dickweed, you've had your chance. Now, go back to your hole in Brooklyn and die of natural causes, because by law, I can't advocate anyone to take your life. Dude, you're useless and let's face it, you've made America's great NIH into the National Banana Republic Institute of Health, the N(BR)IH!"

Onvacation 2021 Aug 31, 9:01pm

Robert Sproul says

Order came in 2 weeks, well packaged, looks super legit. Apparently some packages have been getting intercepted by USPS, which shows them to be among the forces arrayed trying to KILL US. This package was marked "pharmaceuticals, personal use" and had no problem.

Put my order in. $110 with shipping for 100 pills. The PayPal payee seemed a little sketch, some Indian dudes name, but I went for it anyway. For all I know it might be a box of sugar pills.

Reminds me of buying black-market Quaaludes in the '70s.

Onvacation 2021 Aug 31, 9:02pm

Also stops scabies. Not sure what that is and don't want to look it up.

Patrick 2021 Aug 31, 9:12pm

I think the apple-flavored horse ivermectin is rather tasty. But I won't taste it again unless it seems necessary.

Onvacation 2021 Aug 31, 9:49pm

Calling Dr. Rin @Rin please

When (if) I get my Ivermectin when and if and how much and how often should I take these little pills.

I understand any advise you give me is not from a licensed doctor, (who the fuck wants to listen to those murderous fucks), and will take full responsibility for any decisions I make.

Thanks

Onvacation 2021 Aug 31, 9:50pm

Didn't want to do the horse paste.

porkchopXpress 2021 Aug 31, 10:26pm

Onvacation says

Calling Dr. Rin @Rin please

When (if) I get my Ivermectin when and if and how much and how often should I take these little pills.

I understand any advise you give me is not from a licensed doctor, (who the fuck wants to listen to those murderous fucks), and will take full responsibility for any decisions I make.

Thanks

Just follow the FLCCC protocol at covidcriticalcare.com

Patrick 2021 Aug 31, 10:47pm

I couldn't find the dosage at https://covid19criticalcare.com/

But I've previously calculated that for my weight of about 190 lbs I should take about 20 milligrams, or maybe slightly less.

For many things it's a one-dose and you're done thing, but I've seen protocols for the Fauci Flu where it was given twice: once, then again after skipping a day. So say on Monday and Wednesday.

Onvacation 2021 Aug 31, 10:50pm

Patrick says

I should take about 20 milligrams.

Of horse paste?

porkchopXpress 2021 Aug 31, 10:51pm

Patrick says

I couldn't find the dosage at https://covid19criticalcare.com/

But I've previously calculated that for my weight of about 190 lbs I should take about 20 milligrams, or maybe slightly less.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

Onvacation 2021 Aug 31, 10:52pm

G'Night.

Patrick 2021 Aug 31, 10:53pm

Onvacation says

Patrick says
I should take about 20 milligrams.

Of horse paste?

No, of the actual Ivermectin contents of it. So you have to do some math to figure out how much horse paste to take, because it's 1.75% Ivermectin iirc.

Patrick 2021 Aug 31, 10:54pm

porkchopexpress says

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

Ah thanks, so they have it at 16mg for 171 lbs to 190 lbs. Anyway, it seems to be in that range.

richwicks 2021 Aug 31, 11:04pm

Patrick says

Onvacation says
Patrick says
I should take about 20 milligrams.

Of horse paste?

No, of the actual Ivermectin contents of it. So you have to do some math to figure out how much horse paste to take, because it's 1.75% Ivermectin.

Guys, please don't take a drug as a prophylactic until you think, AT LEAST, you've been exposed?

So if this is correct:

Each of those contains 6.08 GRAMS of Ivermectin.

6080 milligrams / 1 package = 20 mg / x

6080x = 20
x = 20/6080
x = .0032894736 or 0.32% of the package.

Is my math right? Seems really easy to OD if it is.

Better start researching what the side effects are of an overdose, what the safety limits are, etc.

porkchopXpress 2021 Aug 31, 11:07pm

richwicks says

Guys, please don't take a drug as a prophylactic until you think, AT LEAST, you've been exposed?

I agree with this. Focus on supplements as maintenance and take IVM when you start to feel symptoms or you know you've been closely exposed.

Patrick 2021 Aug 31, 11:17pm

richwicks says

Is my math right?

No, your math is wrong.

Remember that it's only 1.87% Ivermectin.

So the whole tube contains 6008 * 0.0187 = 112.3496 mg of Ivermectin.

If the normal dose is on the order of 16 mg, that's about 16 / 112 = 0.14, meaning 14% of the package.

It's for up to a 1250 lb horse, so I weigh about 190 / 1250 = 15% the weight of a horse. That is additional confirmation that I'm in the ballpark.

richwicks 2021 Sep 1, 1:31am

Patrick says

richwicks says
Is my math right?

No, your math is wrong.

Remember that it's only 1.87% Ivermectin.

So the whole tube contains 6008 * 0.0187 = 112.3496 mg of Ivermectin.

If the normal dose is on the order of 16 mg, that's about 16 / 112 = 0.14, meaning 14% of the package.

It's for up to a 1250 lb horse, so I weigh about 190 / 1250 = 15% the weight of a horse. That is additional confirmation that I'm in the ballpark.

You're right. I read 6.08 grams as the total amount of Ivermectin, not the weight of the... bar?

Is the 1.87% by weight or by volume? I'd expect the total dosage should be listed somewhere on the package.

GNL 2021 Sep 1, 4:46am

If you weigh 250 lbs and the whole tube is for a 1,250 lb horse, why not take a 1/5 dose?

RWSGFY 2021 Sep 1, 9:05am

From that Indian site selling Ivermectin:

Some common ivermectin side effects in the treatment of infection in the intestine may include:

Vomiting
Dizziness
Nausea
Loss of appetite
Tiredness
Loss of energy
Sleepiness or drowsiness
Stomach pain
Itchiness
Diarrhea

Some common side effects of this drug in the treatment of infection in the intestine may include:

Other eye problems
Fever
Rash
Joint pain and swelling
Swollen and tender lymph nodes
Itching

Serious side effects may include:

Serious eye problems, symptoms:
Redness
Pain
Loss of vision
Swelling
Bleeding
Pain in neck and sometimes in back
Coma
Seizures
Confusion
Trouble standing or walking
Shortness of breath
Extreme tiredness
Extreme drowsiness
Inability to control urination
Liver damage. Symptoms may include:
Dark urine
Vomiting
Nausea
Tiredness
Pain on the right side of your stomach
Loss of appetite
Yellowing of the skin or maybe whites of your eyes
Symptoms of severe skin reactions include:
Peeling skin
Redness
Severe rash
Blistering skin
Low blood pressure( especially when you get up after long sitting or lying down). Symptoms:
Fainting
Lightheadedness
Dizziness

Be careful with the dosage.

Rin 2021 Sep 1, 12:45pm

Patrick says

Remember that it's only 1.87% Ivermectin.

So the whole tube contains 6008 * 0.0187 = 112.3496 mg of Ivermectin.

If the normal dose is on the order of 16 mg, that's about 16 / 112 = 0.14, meaning 14% of the package.

It's for up to a 1250 lb horse, so I weigh about 190 / 1250 = 15% the weight of a horse. That is additional confirmation that I'm in the ballpark.

Patrick's math sounds about right.

Here's the thing, if you already supplement w/ Allisure Allicin (100+mg per day) & Quercetin Phytosome (250 mg per day), [ along with Vitamin C/D, Zinc, R-Lipoic Acid/N-Acetyl-Cysteine ], you can crank up that daily amount to 2000 mg of Allisure Allicin and 3000 mg of Quercetin Phytosome and you'll see many of those symptoms disappear rapidly.

Really, it's highly unlikely you'll ever need the Ivermectin if you approach this with the idea that you can carpet bomb with the supplements, long before your body has a critical dose of viral infestation, so that the Rx isn't needed.

Shaman 2021 Sep 1, 12:48pm

Ok so the NRS store I ordered from last week has unlisted the product.
As have almost every other store. Xiden and his lackeys must be cracking down.
Last place I was able to find:
https://shop.coolhorse.com/store/shop?Search=Durvet+duramectin+horse

It’s in stock! Probably won’t be for long tho. Limit ten per customer.

Shaman 2021 Sep 1, 12:49pm

Also the correct dose of 1% Ivermectin is 1mL per 100 lbs body weight. So an average person could use 1 mL of horse paste at 1.87% as a safe dose.

1mL = 1gram (of water, so something close to this for the paste which is water based).
1.87% Ivermectin is 18.7mg per mL

Onvacation 2021 Sep 1, 1:02pm

FuckCCP89 posted

LONG LIST OF IVERMECTIN SIDE EFFECTS

That's way longer than the list of jab side effects from Pfizer. WAY LONGER!

RWSGFY 2021 Sep 1, 1:09pm

Onvacation says

FuckCCP89 posted

LONG LIST OF IVERMECTIN SIDE EFFECTS

That's way longer than the list of jab side effects from Pfizer. WAY LONGER!

... so far.

Ivermectin is much better researched and tested, duh.

richwicks 2021 Sep 1, 1:17pm

Rin says

Patrick says
Remember that it's only 1.87% Ivermectin.

So the whole tube contains 6008 * 0.0187 = 112.3496 mg of Ivermectin.

If the normal dose is on the order of 16 mg, that's about 16 / 112 = 0.14, meaning 14% of the package.

It's for up to a 1250 lb horse, so I weigh about 190 / 1250 = 15% the weight of a horse. That is additional confirmation that I'm in the ballpark.

Patrick's math sounds about right.

Here's the thing, if you already supplement w/ Allisure Allicin (100+mg per day) & Quercetin Phytosome (250 mg per day), [ along with Vitamin C/D, Zinc, R-Lipoic Acid/N-Acetyl-Cysteine ], you can crank up that daily amount to 2000 mg of Allisure Allicin and 3000 mg of Quercetin Phytosome and you'll see many of those symptoms disappear rapidly.

Really, it's highly unlikely you'll ever need the Ivermectin if you approach this with the idea that you can carpe...

So I wrote up a little dosage chart, please check math - I don't want to kill anybody. This is not medical advice.

If you are dosed at the same rate a horse is, and this paste is for a 1250lb horse:

Body Weight 90lbs, Paste Weight 437mg - Dose 8.2mg
Body Weight 95lbs, Paste Weight 462mg - Dose 8.6mg
Body Weight 100lbs, Paste Weight 486mg - Dose 9.1mg
Body Weight 105lbs, Paste Weight 510mg - Dose 9.6mg
Body Weight 110lbs, Paste Weight 535mg - Dose 10.0mg
Body Weight 115lbs, Paste Weight 559mg - Dose 10.5mg
Body Weight 120lbs, Paste Weight 583mg - Dose 10.9mg
Body Weight 125lbs, Paste Weight 608mg - Dose 11.4mg
Body Weight 130lbs, Paste Weight 632mg - Dose 11.8mg
Body Weight 135lbs, Paste Weight 656mg - Dose 12.3mg
Body Weight 140lbs, Paste Weight 680mg - Dose 12.7mg
Body Weight 145lbs, Paste Weight 705mg - Dose 13.2mg
Body Weight 150lbs, Paste Weight 729mg - Dose 13.6mg
Body Weight 155lbs, Paste Weight 753mg - Dose 14.1mg
Body Weight 160lbs, Paste Weight 778mg - Dose 14.6mg
Body Weight 165lbs, Paste Weight 802mg - Dose 15.0mg
Body Weight 170lbs, Paste Weight 826mg - Dose 15.5mg
Body Weight 175lbs, Paste Weight 851mg - Dose 15.9mg
Body Weight 180lbs, Paste Weight 875mg - Dose 16.4mg
Body Weight 185lbs, Paste Weight 899mg - Dose 16.8mg
Body Weight 190lbs, Paste Weight 924mg - Dose 17.3mg
Body Weight 195lbs, Paste Weight 948mg - Dose 17.7mg
Body Weight 200lbs, Paste Weight 972mg - Dose 18.2mg
Body Weight 205lbs, Paste Weight 997mg - Dose 18.6mg
Body Weight 210lbs, Paste Weight 1021mg - Dose 19.1mg
Body Weight 215lbs, Paste Weight 1045mg - Dose 19.6mg
Body Weight 220lbs, Paste Weight 1070mg - Dose 20.0mg
Body Weight 225lbs, Paste Weight 1094mg - Dose 20.5mg
Body Weight 230lbs, Paste Weight 1118mg - Dose 20.9mg
Body Weight 235lbs, Paste Weight 1143mg - Dose 21.4mg
Body Weight 240lbs, Paste Weight 1167mg - Dose 21.8mg
Body Weight 245lbs, Paste Weight 1191mg - Dose 22.3mg
Body Weight 250lbs, Paste Weight 1216mg - Dose 22.7mg
Body Weight 255lbs, Paste Weight 1240mg - Dose 23.2mg
Body Weight 260lbs, Paste Weight 1264mg - Dose 23.6mg
Body Weight 265lbs, Paste Weight 1288mg - Dose 24.1mg
Body Weight 270lbs, Paste Weight 1313mg - Dose 24.6mg
Body Weight 275lbs, Paste Weight 1337mg - Dose 25.0mg
Body Weight 280lbs, Paste Weight 1361mg - Dose 25.5mg
Body Weight 285lbs, Paste Weight 1386mg - Dose 25.9mg
Body Weight 290lbs, Paste Weight 1410mg - Dose 26.4mg
Body Weight 295lbs, Paste Weight 1434mg - Dose 26.8mg
Body Weight 300lbs, Paste Weight 1459mg - Dose 27.3mg
Body Weight 305lbs, Paste Weight 1483mg - Dose 27.7mg
Body Weight 310lbs, Paste Weight 1507mg - Dose 28.2mg
Body Weight 315lbs, Paste Weight 1532mg - Dose 28.7mg
Body Weight 320lbs, Paste Weight 1556mg - Dose 29.1mg
Body Weight 325lbs, Paste Weight 1580mg - Dose 29.6mg
Body Weight 330lbs, Paste Weight 1605mg - Dose 30.0mg
Body Weight 335lbs, Paste Weight 1629mg - Dose 30.5mg
Body Weight 340lbs, Paste Weight 1653mg - Dose 30.9mg
Body Weight 345lbs, Paste Weight 1678mg - Dose 31.4mg
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg

Rin 2021 Sep 1, 1:22pm

richwicks says

Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg

Hate to say it but if you're a regular person and not a super sized steroid monster who can bench press 500 lbs and squat 700 lbs, being at 350 lbs (and greater) is not healthy.

87 DhammaStep 2021 Sep 1, 1:26pm

Rin says

richwicks says
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg

Hate to say it but if you're a regular person and not a super sized steroid monster who can bench press 500 lbs and squat 700 lbs, being at 350 lbs (and greater) is not healthy.

Probably the exact kind of person who would take any kind of treatment and still die from any basic virus. The media gets to say "horse paste didn't save this extremely healthy person."

richwicks 2021 Sep 1, 1:40pm

Rin says

richwicks says
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg

Hate to say it but if you're a regular person and not a super sized steroid monster who can bench press 500 lbs and squat 700 lbs, being at 350 lbs (and greater) is not healthy.

Well, I'm not that heavy, but I wanted to give a complete chart. Being 90lbs isn't all that healthy either, unless you're a 7 year old kid.

Patrick 2021 Sep 1, 2:01pm

FuckCCP89 says

From that Indian site selling Ivermectin:

All drugs have a long list of horrors that they are obligated to advertise.

But if you look up the actual safety of Ivermectin, it's up there with aspirin, I belive.

richwicks 2021 Sep 1, 2:09pm

Patrick says

FuckCCP89 says
From that Indian site selling Ivermectin:

All drugs have a long list of horrors that they are obligated to advertise.

But if you look up the actual safety of Ivermectin, it's up there with aspirin, I belive.

If you want to waste some time, look up anything on the Material Safety Data Sheet. It's almost worthless because everything will kill you, in high enough quantities.

Here's distilled water:

https://beta-static.fishersci.com/content/dam/fishersci/en_US/documents/programs/education/regulatory-documents/sds/chemicals/chemicals-w/S25868.pdf

Go to the second page and review what you are to do if you're exposed to it, and how to prevent it from contaminating the environment.

Shaman 2021 Sep 1, 2:10pm

For measuring purposes, one gram of paste is approximately equal to one mL. It’s easier to measure by volume with a medicine cup from something else than to measure by weight.

92 ForcedTQ 2021 Sep 1, 2:16pm

Patrick says

FuckCCP89 says
From that Indian site selling Ivermectin:

All drugs have a long list of horrors that they are obligated to advertise.

But if you look up the actual safety of Ivermectin, it's up there with aspirin, I belive.

The thing about the listed side effects/complications is that those are what gets the drug manufacturer off the hook. If you take the med, and have one of the listed issues, any suit you may have is moot.

HeadSet 2021 Sep 1, 3:04pm

richwicks says

Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg

Why did you stop at 350lbs? Asking for a friend...........

richwicks 2021 Sep 1, 3:10pm

HeadSet says

richwicks says
Body Weight 350lbs, Paste Weight 1702mg - Dose 31.8mg

Why did you stop at 350lbs? Asking for a friend...........

I didn't think it was likely anybody would be heavier.

Here's the math:

mg of paste to consume = 6080 mg * weight in lbs / 1250 lbs

From that, if you want to know how much Ivermectin that is:

dosage of ivermectin in mg = 0.0187 mg of paste to consume

This is not medical advice.

HeadSet 2021 Sep 1, 3:55pm

richwicks says

I didn't think it was likely anybody would be heavier.

It was a joke. "Asking for a friend" is like a meme.

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