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indc says

Patrick please dont support this sikhguy and these farm protests

I honestly don't know enough detail to have an opinion on what is going on in India.

I think the right answer to speech you don't like is more speech, better speech.

The idea is simple, Farmers are fighting for their livelihood and the "Hindooo goon govt" want to sell everything to global elites cheap and get their cut.
Question for Bharti people is that can they hang these criminals on lampposts before they run away to safe havens with all the loot.

DonewithDebate says

Good to hear.
I went to restaurant in bay area and they had notice on wall "check for vax or negative test within week or so"... But nobody asked anything.
I guess everybody just want government idiots off their back and not really believe in this shit.

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Propaganda fatigue and bullshit fatigue. I knew it was happening when I saw all the people at the gym, even 'conformist Asians', just letting their noses out and full masks down while exercising at the gym. Only the Karens and hysterics are still complying. Even a staff guy had his nose out, and they only half heartedly check on people.

Ceffer says

DonewithDebate says

Good to hear.
I went to restaurant in bay area and they had notice on wall "check for vax or negative test within week or so"... But nobody asked anything.
I guess everybody just want government idiots off their back and not really believe in this shit.

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Propaganda fatigue and bullshit fatigue. I knew it was happening when I saw all the people at the gym, even 'conformist Asians', just letting their noses out and full masks down while exercising at the gym. Only the Karens and hysterics are still complying.

I love this. You can do "IQ test" without much effort. :)

DonewithDebate says

I love this. You can do "IQ test" without much effort. :)

LOL!

Ceffer says

DonewithDebate says

I love this. You can do "IQ test" without much effort. :)

LOL!

The "mask drama" is truly hilarious.
You go to party and everybody is wearing mask. Someone will take off .. and within minutes everyone will be off.

These days I just speedup the process by going "naked nose" . Why waste time?

Hypocrisy is hallmark of Hindoo cult.
I have no problem in How UK handles refugees. I am of opinion that every nation handle its own affairs. If UK doesn't interfere in some nation, It has no obligation to take refuge from that nation.

But This Hindooo bitch is saying lot of negatives about refugees, while her own parents were refugee. Have some shame... But If she had shame she wouldn't be Hindooo.
Why did her ugly Hindooo parents crossed the channel?

https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/04/priti-patel-asylum-seekers-have-no-reason-to-cross-channel-to-uk-15364257/
‘No reason’ for asylum seekers to cross Channel to UK, Priti Patel tells Tories

https://twitter.com/RaviSinghKA/status/1445122163925831686
Yes, I take the cold-blooded killing of the Sikh protesters in UP ( India ) very personally !!
The attackers are nothing more than sewer rats !!

On a serious note, I think immigration in USA treats Bhartis very unfairly due to "too much influx".
They face long waits to get Visas to live permanently in USA and chance of exploitation becomes high.

US shouldn't treat Bharti immigrants like disposables. It is not their fault that Hindooo have made Bharat unlivable.

Hindooo cult have a mortal fear of Khalsa ending their reign of terror.
I must give it to Hindoo that they survived for that long, Although the cult is on last leg.

https://twitter.com/CPism/status/1445953808895332354
Khalistanis are going mad over this statement of Priti Patel. They think that the sewa of ISI and Christian missionaries is the only true service. Sewa is indeed a ‘hindu’ word like yoga, dhyan and dharma. Thanks @pritipatel
for underlining it.

I don't have much in common with elite and illogical environmentalism... But they have right to protest like anyone else.
... Same way we have to protest against vaccine tyranny.

The Hindooo bitch is trying to bring culture of his garbage Hindooo cult to UK of terror.
I think liberals are loving her as she will help them dismantle Tories using Hindooo cult crimes.


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16327930/priti-patel-police-powers-insulate-britain/
DEMO ASBOS Cops empowered to nab eco zealots BEFORE they glue themselves to roads as Priti Patel vows to end M-way protest ‘misery’

DonewithDebate says

Rape by Indian forces (post-1988)
The critics of the Indian military presence in the valley contend that 600,000 troops are present in the state, according to which the region possesses the highest ratio of troops to civilians in the world.[25][26] Since January 1990, Indian forces committed a number of human rights violations against civilians, including mass rape.[27]

You really are using wiki for proof about rape by troops?

The troops always stay in their barracks and only for operation or peace keeping come out on to streets. it was mostly local muslim police who did these atrocities.

You should see what bob blackman said in british parliament about Indian troops in Kashmir. Because of them there is some peace in Kashmir if not kashmir will be like afghanistan now.

Where do you get this bastar* narrative building? Hindus are getting killed in Kashmir and you bring up Indian troops are part of the oppression.

Few years back an officer tied a stone pelter to his car because his friends were throwing rocks at their convoy in kashmir. And he was sacked. Stop lying and ask your gurudwara from spreading lies.

indc says

DonewithDebate says

Rape by Indian forces (post-1988)
The critics of the Indian military presence in the valley contend that 600,000 troops are present in the state, according to which the region possesses the highest ratio of troops to civilians in the world.[25][26] Since January 1990, Indian forces committed a number of human rights violations against civilians, including mass rape.[27]

You really are using wiki for proof about rape by troops?

The troops always stay in their barracks and only for operation or peace keeping come out on to streets. it was mostly local muslim police who did these atrocities.

You should see what bob blackman said in british parliament about Indian troops in Kashmir. Because of them there is some peace in Kashmir if not kashmir will be like afghanistan now.

Where do you get this bastar* narrative building? Hindus are getting killed in Kashmir and you bring up Indian tr...

Show the propaganda by your "dead soul" to someone else. I know first hand from some people the cruelty of Hindooo cult.
Once humanity dies within, Nothing can wake it up.
All the innocents are Bhartis who have equal right to land.

https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Operation_Shudeekaran
Sikh women

With all of the targeted men, often boys, either already under arrest or finding places to hide, Sikh women became the target of the 'bloody thirsty' Hindu Indian Security forces. Sikh women were ruthlessly tortured, not only physically but also mentally. They were used as tools to force the surrender of Sikh fighters who were their relatives and also as a means of humiliating families, even whole villages. Often Sikh women arrested with their husbands, were raped while their husbands were forced to watch. Rape was also used as an interrogation tool.

Humiliation; rape; trimming of hair, even circumcision for men, were common forms of torture used on the Sikhs for hundreds of years. Now those who believed in Hindutva used the very same tortures once (still) used by the Mughals and Afganis who had ruled India while the Gurus were alive. These practises long used by the Ghaznis or selafists of Islam well before Babur's invasion, continued by the Durranis and seen very much still alive during the Partition of India when women were raped or forced into marriages as it was well known that their Hindu families would not take them back easily. For those women lucky enough to have been saved from being sold as slaves in a Muslim market by the heroic bands of Sikhs, in the days when prices placed on their heads forced the Sikhs to live in forests, there was the Hindu ritual ceremony of ``purification`` called (Shuddhikaran) which though often expensive allowed their return into the Hindu fold. For the men who were often circumcised there was also an expensive ceremony, usually involving five products of the cow which many men could not afford, which was also said to return one to the fold of Hinduism. It seemed the Priests of Hinduism there was always a ritual ceremony requiring a fee.

The Indian Forces also began a program of “shudhee karan”, which was now a code name for the rape of Sikh women. They joked that the offspring of their rapes would change the genetic makeup of the Sikh community and they would kill the Resistance in this way. Many rape victims took their own lives, unable to live with the ongoing humiliation at the hands of the Indian police. (How stupid would men have to be to believe that one could change genetic makeup by rape, unless of course you were of a completely different race.)
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From your article there is no difference between sikh and hindu how can anyone change their race? Is operation Shudeekaran name created by SIkhi? I dont see any article on google.
And even what your ancestor witnessed is evil, how do you extrapolate that to what Indian troops did in Kashmir? Islamists are/were much more evil than khalisthanis.

And does this give right to islamists to kill ordinary hindus in valley.

... as if financially abusing lower caste was not enough..

https://twitter.com/i/events/1392184799096459264
A Hindu sect paid Dalit workers $1 a day to build a massive temple in New Jersey, a new lawsuit says

Is there some worldwide child cruelty competition going on that we're just unaware of?

Over in the west we've got:

-Child sex trafficking to be used as blackmail fuel or just pleasure
-Children having their genders reassigned by psychotic parents
-Mask mandates/Lockdowns
-24/7 overstimulation melting their brains reward systems

Coming soon: permanent heart damage and destroyed fertility.

Does it taste like Chicken?

DhammaStep says

Is there some worldwide child cruelty competition going on that we're just unaware of?

Over in the west we've got:

-Child sex trafficking to be used as blackmail fuel or just pleasure
-Children having their genders reassigned by psychotic parents
-Mask mandates/Lockdowns
-24/7 overstimulation melting their brains reward systems

Coming soon: permanent heart damage and destroyed fertility.

The only way to fight our "mutilation" is to not allow human rights violation of anybody irrespective of differences.
The slippery slope starts .. when someone sees it is OK to violate rights of opponents.

Booger says

Does it taste like Chicken?

Hindoo can't tell, They are vegetarians... Just burn for fun.. to see burning man dance.

https://harperbroadcast.com/2015/07/16/tyres-the-unusual-weapon-used-during-the-1984-riots/
This method of killing was gut-wrenchingly unusual. Everywhere, large numbers of Sikhs were ringed with burning tyres. In years of reporting crime I had never seen such a method of killing in Delhi, never before, never since. Over those three days, this became the chosen way to kill all over the city. How did this suddenly happen?
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indc says

From your article there is no difference between sikh and hindu how can anyone change their race? Is operation Shudeekaran name created by SIkhi? I dont see any article on google.
And even what your ancestor witnessed is evil, how do you extrapolate that to what Indian troops did in Kashmir? Islamists are/were much more evil than khalisthanis.

And does this give right to islamists to kill ordinary hindus in valley.

I am sure there are evil people within Sikhs who violate Bhartis(It doesn't matter their type).
I don't support them or Sikh community as a whole never support "evil leaders" who wants to torture or burn innocents.
This organized crimes against humanity are Hindooo and Wahabbi cults of Islam traits.
Sufis, Ahmadias , Sikhs, Jains, Dravidian etc. cultures don't do this shit. Bharti culture celebrating nature is never violent.

Hindooo cult lawlessness coming to US,UK and rest of the west.

https://m.thewire.in/article/politics/the-bjp-wants-to-use-private-armies-to-deal-with-public-anger
The BJP Wants to Use Private Armies to Deal With Public Anger
How can India uphold the rule of law when two constitutionally appointed authorities, Manohar Lal Khattar and Ajay Kumar Mishra, are so boastfully tarnishing it?

Hindoo criminals can inflate numbers to .5 Million. This is how many Sikhs were killed by Hindooo cult.
In reality "true Sikhs" killed zero innocents and as many criminal rape and riot hindooo cult members they can after sacrificing their lives to fight tyranny.


https://twitter.com/amz360/status/1446289292234428419
35000 Hindus were killed at Bhindrawale's behest. RSS cadre including Vajpayee saved lot of 84 riot victims. Yet a Hindu reporter from Punjab thinks Bhindrawale T shirts are normal and RSS is bad. Talk about Stockholm Syndrome!

I can support that. Very reasonable thing to ask for.

https://twitter.com/SriGaussian/status/1445220375692972041
I am being honest, not divisive. I don’t want corporate America and the gov to exploit H-1B labor while keeping the equality issue unresolved. If you need H-1Bs then treat them with dignity. It ain’t a selfish ask.

this US groups is also contributing to controlling immigration for our own benefit.
I guess whatever the solution, The exploitation of both native and immigrant workers for businesses must stop.

https://twitter.com/USTechWorkers

The unemployment rate just dropped to 4.8% with less than 200k jobs created for the month.

Nobody wants to work crap jobs anymore. I pity the retailers who are trying to staff for the holidays. Maybe even Amazon is re-thinking its policy of terminating the 20% least productive during a year.

Turnover for crap jobs has always been high, but now people just ain't gonna do the work for the wages offered.

Boomers checked out during Covid. If they had to return to work they just retired. That left room for others to move up, which left room for others to move up, which left a lot of room at the bottom. And also million of women were forced to quit and stay home to school and care for their kids. Many decided they would just keep going with that due to all the uncertainty surrounding covid mandates and vax mandates and nobody wants to wear that fucking mask all day.

What we have to understand is that this red vs blue fight is futile.
The real war is between commoners and elites.

Currently the elite are scooping from middle class to appease poor while they are getting criminally rich.
What middle class needs to do is to assert itself and transfer wealth from rich to poor .. if redistribution is unavoidable.
... Better option is to improve treatment of workers and remove poverty while increasing size of middle class.
(Currently middle class is looted and they are fast joining ranks of poor)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsis
Parsis (/ˈpɑːrsiː/) or Parsees (lit. 'Persian' in the Persian language) are an ethnoreligious group of the Indian subcontinent whose religion is Zoroastrianism. Their ancestors migrated to the region from modern-day Iran following the Muslim conquest of Persia in the 7th century CE. They are the first of two such to have done so, with the other being Iranis, who migrated to the subcontinent many centuries after Persia fell to the Rashidun Caliphate. According to a Zoroastrian epic, Qissa-i Sanjan, Parsis continued to migrate from the collapsed Sassanid Empire to Gujarat in between the 8th and 10th centuries CE, where they were given refuge to escape religious persecution during the early Muslim conquests.[5][6][7][8][9][10][11]

Very little population left.
You have to give to Christianity and Islam that they know how to increase population using various tricks.
... Now this is another matter .. that what is the purpose of dominating others rather then freeing humanity?

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Zoroastrian communities internationally tend to comprise mostly two main groups of people: Indian Parsis and Iranian Zoroastrians. According to a study in 2012 by the Federation of Zoroastrian Associations of North America, the number of Zoroastrians worldwide was estimated to be between 111,691 and 121,962. The number is imprecise because of diverging counts in Iran.[14]

Small Zoroastrian communities may be found all over the world, with a continuing concentration in Western India, Central Iran, and Southern Pakistan. Zoroastrians of the diaspora are primarily located in the United States, Great Britain and the former British colonies, particularly Canada and Australia, and usually anywhere where there is a strong Iranian and Gujarati presence.[citation needed]

DonewithDebate says

Can we please settle this debate already? There is no labor shortage. There is a living wage shortage, a hazard pay shortage, a child care shortage, a paid sick leave shortage, and a health care shortage.

Yet that dipshit Reich supports unfettered illegal immigration that contributes to all this. Trump was the only one who addressed these issues by curtailing illegal immigrations and working to bring back manufacturing from China.

HeadSet says

DonewithDebate says

Can we please settle this debate already? There is no labor shortage. There is a living wage shortage, a hazard pay shortage, a child care shortage, a paid sick leave shortage, and a health care shortage.

Yet that dipshit Reich supports unfettered illegal immigration that contributes to all this. Trump was the only one who addressed these issues by curtailing illegal immigrations and working to bring back manufacturing from China.

This is also factual statement.
Although same people who benefit from illegal migration are the ones who create mess in other places to force this migration.
Unfortunately "no country for disenfranchised poor people"...bitter truth.

They are extremely rich despite their small numbers. I think they own something like 20% of the industry of India in spite of being only 0.01% of the population.

No one seems to hate them for it though.

Patrick says

They are extremely rich despite their small numbers. I think they own something like 20% of the industry of India in spite of being only 0.01% of the population.

No one seems to hate them for it though.

Yes they are well respected businessmen in Bharat.
They provided some real value to create durable products.

Unfortunately now "thief" type Hindooo businessmen have taken over who specializes in stealing govt dole.

China's average income is 10k per year, so at 250k.. price/income ratio for house would be 25.... Still more expensive then anywhere in USA.
Assuming 250k house price, $5T would be equivalent to.. 20M houses.

With 80%+ population already owning homes and only very poor without homes, How will they sell 20M houses just to pay off debt.
It looks like colossal bubble bigger than any bubble in history of mankind.

/* interesting comment on article above */
China copied the presale and limited land auction model from Hong Kong. HK was a British colony and has a very sick property system where millions can't afford a basic living space and much land non-developed. China borrowed that!

Many did not realize China's apartments have virtually no property tax. Thinking NY apartment sold for no future property tax, the current price will be off the roof. That put the local government in a non-sustainable base except auctioning more land.

Oh every auction must go thru the layers of governments. Each layer adds graft. Officials with access to land auction and real state projects get rich like robbing banks.

The speculators and grafters made like bandits. Developers using borrowed money had made money and delivered apartments. Now, it's time for some to default the bond with unfinished apartments. Local government may have to start property tax.

To make capitalism or market work is not as simple to model after Hong Kong.

The homeownership rate in China is about 90%, with about 25% of the population having multiple properties. The average Chinese is quite wealthy if you look at the assets at current prices.

The income stats out of China should not be relied upon. They make up for small salaries by having outrageous returns on savings vehicles. Yes, the whole thing is a ponzi scheme. The savings rate of a typical Chinese is 34% on average. You would have to ask the individual Chinese what return they get on their savings. It is beyond belief. The CCP tries to maintain capital controls, but hundreds of billions bleed out of the country annually.

Everyone knows it is going to collapse, but the CCP brass think they will still be in charge of everything when it does by shear threats of violence against any who would stand against them.

China's economy is more of a lie than the US's.

DonewithDebate says

China's average income is 10k per year, so at 250k.. price/income ratio for house would be 25.... Still more expensive then anywhere in USA.

It sounds quite typical of the Bay Area, where a normal salary is $100K and a normal house can cost $2.5M.

More things have been stolen around us in Menlo Park, but there is not much violent crime.

Also, I've heard of teens (usually black) running through Stanford Mall stealing things. That did not used to happen around here.

Patrick says

DonewithDebate says

China's average income is 10k per year, so at 250k.. price/income ratio for house would be 25.... Still more expensive then anywhere in USA.

It sounds quite typical of the Bay Area, where a normal salary is $100K and a normal house can cost $2.5M.

I said average for China. Median house in SF bay area is nowhere near 2.5M .
See ratio here for job centers of china and rest of world including bay area.
https://www.numbeo.com/property-investment/rankings.jsp?title=2021-mid&displayColumn=0

SF is ~10x
and Chinese tier 1 cities are 40x+.

SF is only 8, some of south bay cities are worse.
25 San Francisco, CA, United States 7.60

By the way if we take lower average for Chinese, Then they have to sell lot more that 20M houses to pay off $5T.

Patrick says

More things have been stolen around us in Menlo Park, but there is not much violent crime.

Also, I've heard of teens (usually black) running through Stanford Mall stealing things. That did not used to happen around here.

I expect it to rise as free money is stopped at some point.
I wish well for all our citizens and govt monetary help when run hard patch.. But against making them lazy.

Well, there are about 400k houses in San Francisco. Each one went up in value by about $84k. This was for no good reason except the bankers dropped the interest rate.

The Black teens didn't own a property, but to buy one costs $84k more than the year before. Do you know how many I-phones you gotta liberate to keep up with the theft arranged by the banksters?