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I think it's a mistake to talk about race at all.

The oligarchy wants to divide us with race so that we don't talk about how the oligarchy is screwing all of us.

Patrick says

I think it's a mistake to talk about race at all.

The oligarchy wants to divide us with race so that we don't talk about how the oligarchy is screwing all of us.

I think like they cater to various groups based on power those groups have over elections. For example, you know it too. If you tear down Floyd statue, it'll be hate crime. But if you tear down statue of a Catholic priest... it's "understandable".

I think if right developed a counter to the left wing cancel culture, to a point government was actually afraid of them as much as they are of black people rioting, things would change. It wouldn't be a one way street like it is now.

Patrick says

Tourists who visit Dachau are often "disappointed" that there are no gas chambers.

I'm a bit doubtful of the story of gas chambers at all.

There's no point in transferring people to a concentration camp, just to kill them although I'm certain the people unable to work, were killed.

I'm as old as you. When I was a kid, it was accepted as FACT that Jewish bodies were being rendered into soap and their skin being used for lampshades. None of those stories are true. We didn't have DNA technology then, but we do now.

It's, shocking, how much propaganda there is still accepted as fact, but it is what it is. You're not allowed to discuss it, any attempt to discuss it gets you branded as anti-Semitic as well. I hate that propaganda survives to become "fact".

And it's quite possible, I'm wrong about my beliefs, but I can't find out, because it's become impossible to have a reasonable discussion with it. I've had to deal with Hasbera more times than I can count. The Israeli government has NO PROBLEM with defaming people, ruining people, and lying to people. They are one of the most ethically bankrupt governments on this planet.

Remember when it was said that when the Palestinians disarmed the conflict would end? Well, when is the last time the West Bank attacked Israel? Still, the settlements grow. In time the Palestinians will be entirely destroyed and a complete fiction of history will be created to make it morally justified.

I wonder if I had any relatives that were guards at Treblinka.

HunterTits says

Would have been better if bro said instead, 'No. I am.'

I missed the joke. Would that be implying the little bother is the real dad?

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Of course, denying a Genocide is the final phase of one, as the Turks-Kurds can tell you about Armenians, or many Soviet Apologists about the Holodmor.

I'm not saying there weren't a lot of people killed. I'm saying there's a TON OF BULLSHIT about what happened in the concentration camps.

There's been censorship on the discussion of this for decades. Lies need censorship to be protected, truth doesn't need any protection.

Booger says

I wonder if I had any relatives that were guards at

are you polish?

richwicks says

I'm not saying there weren't a lot of people killed. I'm saying there's a TON OF BULLSHIT about what happened in the concentration camps.

For sure. Human Soap, Lampshades, etc. Why on Earth would a Nazi want to wash themselves with subhuman fat?

The #1 method was working to death in squalid conditions, followed by simple shootings. The same way millions of Slavs were killed by the Nazis. Or the NKVD for that matter. Gulag work camps, followed by shootings.

The real forgotten Holocaust is the murder of hundreds of thousands of Poles and millions of POWs/Civilians. That German Death Camps had lots of space devoted to Non-Jews, or that they murdered Polish professors, mayors, ex-mayors, officers, ex-officers, Deans, Principals, Schoolteachers, etc. by the thousands within weeks of the 1939 Invasion. Also by gunshots in the forest. Or Generalplan Ost. Can't have Lebensraum if it's full of "non-Aryans". Truth is Jews were only a third of the victims.

And of course, Stalin was much, much worse. At one point the Gulags had 14M/year residents.

One Russian NKVD agent shot 7000 mostly Polish POWs with a Walther PPK. He aimed for 300/day but that was a long shot. Vasily Blokhin, personally honored by Beria himself. Naturally they used the Walther to have plausible deniability in case of discovery.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

The #1 method was working to death in squalid conditions, followed by simple shootings.

Yes, but what is never talked about is, why were they worked to death? Why would you intentionally kill useful workers, who are working (albeit forced) on behalf of the Nazi war effort? You wouldn't.

But the Allies cut supply lines, they destroyed infrastructure, they prevented food and supplies from entering the camps. This was logical to do, but it was the Allies that created those skin and bone, barely living, skeletons.

The Allies could never admit this, so they concocted a bunch of lies about what the Nazis did. I think (powerful) Jewish interests saw how this could be used to their long term advantage, and as a result, that's where the stories of the Holocaust arose.

The Nazis, I'm certain, were ruthless. As ruthless as anybody is in a war. Look at what the US has done in Guantanamo? There's one prisoner who is attempting to testify that he was repeatedly raped, had food shoved up his rectum, had an eye torn out, was hung by hooks, and was basically brutally tortured for years.

There's speculation this is done to INTENTIONALLY create terrorists. Traumatize them, create a clear enemy in their mind, and use them to enter nations that the US wants to invade. Torture is a way to brainwash, not extract information. If you, or I, or anybody is placed under torture, we will say ANYTHING to make it stop. Anything. We'll lie, tell the truth, anything. And of course, we'll want revenge.

Torture is used to manufacture monsters, it's speculated.

richwicks says

Yes, but what is never talked about is, why were they worked to death? Why would you intentionally kill useful workers, who are working (albeit forced) on behalf of the Nazi war effort? You wouldn't.

The USSR did. Might as well get the uncooperative to produce until death.

The Nazis did the same. No point in Lebensraum if it's full of Jews, Slavs, and Gypsies. Might as well work 'em with limited calories until they die, then toss 'em out. No shortage of population to process this way, and with Ukraine and Russia, a long way to go, might as well start right away.



Genocide Aside, the Nazis invaded the Czech Republic, Poland with False Flags and Lies. Austria was similar - the referendum on Anschluss was only held after the Wehrmacht invaded the country. German Kommandos didn't get the notice that Fall Weiss was delayed due to a demand for radio silence and were arrested by Polish Patrols days before the actual invasion. They exterminated potential opponents there with gusto and enthusiasm. Then they invaded Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Luxemborg, and Belgium, all neutral countries, without bothering for with a causus belli. ALL of these countries were Democracies that were not Communist nor could any reasonable observer say they faced any kind of imminent Communist takeover.

WW2 is a classic example of entities ganging up after another entity begins a pattern of ruthless expansion.

richwicks says

But the Allies cut supply lines, they destroyed infrastructure, they prevented food and supplies from entering the camps. This was logical to do, but it was the Allies that created those skin and bone, barely living, skeletons.

The Allies could never admit this, so they concocted a bunch of lies about what the Nazis did.

I had not heard that before. Seems plausible.

But I am pretty sure that the camps were intended to wear down and ultimately kill political prisoners anyway, even the camps without gas chambers.

Patrick says

I had not heard that before. Seems plausible.

One problem with the "Cut off Supplies" argument is that Strategic Bombing (as always, like in Vietnam and anywhere else it's tried) failed. It had to be called off within a few weeks of the 1943 Daytime Campaign, since the 8th USAAF was suffering 1% per day casualty rate, unsustainable even with US Resources; the "Bomber Box" of "Flying Fortresses" turned out to be a chalkboard theory jackoff that failed royally when confronted with AAA and Interceptors and Radar working in tandem.

Most of the time, if a B-17 was hit, it usually could not make it back to the UK; and IF the trained flight crews bailed, they would invariably be captured by the Nazis and thus out of combat.

Daytime bombing was targeted to specific industries, such as Ball Bearing or Power Plants. A few times they tried to bomb railheads, but by then the B-17s were forced to fly well over 15,000 to avoid Flak and accuracy was a joke. The Germans had also tried to bomb UK railheads in daytime bombing and failed as well in 1940. As with the UK in 1940, any rail damage was rapidly repaired, often within 24 hours until the last few months of the war.

The true interdiction of barges, rolling stock itself (rather than railyards), etc. of Germany didn't start until Fall 1944 when the Allies could base the much-shorter-range than 4-engine heavy bomber Mosquitos and other CAS aircraft in numbers on the Continent itself; with lots of days off due to Fog and Rain of European Seasons. The other problem is that US/UK POW camps in Germany didn't suffer starvation like the camps for Jews and Russian POWs did.

In any case, Dachau - located in well resourced Munich area - was a place were medical experiments occurred. At Natzweiler-Struthof, gas chambers were used and installed, and evidence is incontrovertible because the bodies of 80 gassed Gypsy Prisoners were sent to a University for Skull-measuring Anthropometry research created to prove the Roma were untermenschen.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

The other problem is that US/UK POW camps in Germany didn't suffer starvation like the camps for Jews and Russian POWs did.

Big difference in that the US/UK prisioners we're not held in Eastern Europe.

Booger says

Big difference in that the US/UK prisioners we're not held in Eastern Europe.

Many were, like Zagan ("Sagan") aka Stalag Luft III. Difference was many of the Allied POWs were bailed out Airmen, so were detained by the Luftwaffe. Other camps were run by the SS or other agencies.

Whereas at Stalag VIIIB, in Germany not in Poland, at least 40,000 Russian POWs died. More than half of Russian POWs died under Nazi control, compared to only a tenth of US/UK Prisoners.

Consider the total number of British POWs ever detained by Germany was 170,000. On the other hand, the Nazis mass executed British and American troops in 1944 at both Arnhem and in the Ardennes. There was a famous rivalry between the Canadians and the (12th?) SS Hitlerjugend Division that started shortly after D-Day over atrocities.

When Hitler comes again, make sure to be under the Luftwaffe and not the SS.

And Stalin shot a shitload of Russian POW AND Civilians upon liberation, probably in the hundreds of thousands at least.

40,000... 3.3M... the six gorillion... pretty soon you're talking real numbers. Fact of the matter is the shit the Nazis did like Aktion T4 and the shooting of Polish Civilians in 1939 is more than enough as it is, not to mention their false flags and invasions without causus belli at all (Denmark, Low Countries).

HunterTits says

Booger says

Would have been better if bro said instead, 'No. I am.'

I think the little monkey and the finger at the end just confuses it....otherwise pretty funny

Ripped off from Poal:
https://poal.co/s/AskPoal/456614

One of my 4 dogs is turning 12 today. My wife and I went to the pet store to get them some celebration treats. I began loading up on treats that looked like orange iced pumpkins. My wife the accountant did the math and said the better buy are the rainbow cookies…more cookie and they are a dollar cheaper. I said I’m not giving my dogs treats with the fag flag on them. My wife made a cringe face and cocked her head in a way that made me look. Right next to us was the store manager, an obvious dyke. Five feet tall, four feet wide with short purple hair. We locked eyes. I said no one is buying the gay ones, that’s why there are so many and they’re marked down. I bought all the pumpkin cookies. She rang us up with an attitude

The manager probably bought all the fag treats and ate them herself.

Better shot of the above picture:

Oh /pol, never stop.

Of course, it's massive cognitive dissonance that Israel is having the highest COVID rates and deaths, while being almost totally double vaxed and now even triple vaxed.

"Shut up Schlomo - you don't get the REAL Zioplan: the Jews are killing themselves, so their dead selves can fool the Goyim and take control."

Right, it's about the lamest anti-Semitic conspiracy theory ever.

Whore on a door?

HunterTits says

Half to admit I don't get this one at all.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Whore on a door?

Bingo.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

So if door knobs in your rentals are busted you know who did what.

HunterTits says

Half to admit I don't get this one at all.

You can't tell when a chick wants to get slammed?

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Oh /pol, never stop.

Of course, it's massive cognitive dissonance that Israel is having the highest COVID rates and deaths, while being almost totally double vaxed and now even triple vaxed.

"Shut up Schlomo - you don't get the REAL Zioplan: the Jews are killing themselves, so their dead selves can fool the Goyim and take control."

THE JOOS WANT TO KILL ALL OF US WITH [variable inserted here}

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

HunterTits says

Half to admit I don't get this one at all.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Whore on a door?

Bingo.

Or Snatch on a Latch
Or Slob on a Knob