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Firing nurses who don't want to risk their lives after seeing the vaxxed die is leading to nurse shortages


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2021 Aug 20, 6:30pm   10,200 views  156 comments

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https://voxday.net/2021/08/20/a-severe-shortage/


A Severe Shortage
The medical corporations are learning that disemploying the unvaccinated is going to hurt them worse than those they unjustly fired:

Jennifer Bridges knew what was coming when her director at Houston Methodist hospital called her up in June to inquire about her vaccination status.

Bridges, a 39-year-old registered nurse, responded “absolutely not” when asked if she was vaccinated or had made an effort to get vaccinated. She was terminated on the spot.

“We all knew we were getting fired,” Bridges, 39, told CBS News. “We knew unless we took that shot to come back, we were getting fired today. There was no ifs, ands or buts.”

Bridges was one of more than 150 hospital workers fired by Houston Methodist hospital.

“All last year, through the COVID pandemic, we came to work and did our jobs,” said Kara Shepherd, a labor and delivery nurse who joined Bridges and other workers in an unsuccessful lawsuit. “We did what we were asked. This year, we’re basically told we’re disposable.”

Shepherd and her colleagues may be disposable in the eyes of hospital administrators, but they are perhaps not as easily replaced as she or Houston Methodist thought.

Two months after firing unvaccinated hospital staff, Houston Methodist is one of several area hospitals experiencing a severe shortage of medical personnel. Media reports say hospitals have “reached a breaking point” because of a flood of COVID-19 cases.

Never get vaccinated just to keep a job or preserve a career. The law of supply and demand is on your side. You may have to be patient, you may have to be flexible, and you may have to change jobs. But sooner or later, the corporations will either relent or they will collapse.

Notice that the airline industry is already demonstrating that vaxxed personnel are more vulnerable and less reliable than the unvaxxed. It’s been eight weeks and daily flight cancellations are holding steady at more than 10x the historical average. These labor shortages are not going to go away, they are almost certainly going to get worse.




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51   PeopleUnited   2021 Oct 1, 4:31am  

Aleksandr is almost paraphrasing scripture.

“Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭15:17-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/1/mat.15.17-20.kjv

“The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭17:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/1/jer.17.9.kjv

“Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭20:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/1/pro.20.9.kjv

But God can redeem that which is lost by the power of His word.

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/1/heb.4.12-13.kjv
52   Shaman   2021 Oct 1, 8:41am  

Keep in mind that the word “heart” in biblical, poetical context is another word for one’s subconscious mind. It’s a powerful and powerfully important part of your mind. Perhaps the most important part. Not only does it control your autonomic bodily functions like heart rate, digestion, posture, kinesthetics (how could your conscious mind EVER calculate the speed, angle, drop, and trajectory of a baseball in time to catch or hit it?), but the subconscious is our emotional seat. It’s the source of our emotional well-being. If your heart is sick, you’ll find it hard to be happy or motivated or excited about doing much at all. “Heartbroken” is what poets have called this condition for millennia, and it’s one of the worst states a human being can find himself. Emotional pain is real pain, and when that pain arises from the subconscious itself, it’s agonizing and inescapable.

“Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭4:23‬ ‭NIV‬‬
53   mell   2021 Oct 1, 8:44am  

Merck will release the pill soon then all that vaxx crap will be on its last legs. Just sucks for those fired but at least they have grounds for substantial lawsuits and a healthy body.
54   EBGuy   2021 Oct 1, 1:18pm  

Friend who is a California medical professional just received their religious exemption at the final hour yesterday. I'm guessing their employer was playing a came of chicken with them. They're contemplating moving out of state (especially after the 12year + vaccine edict from Newsom). Friend has an atheist colleague who wrote a two page manifesto for their religious exemption which they got earlier this month.
55   Patrick   2021 Oct 1, 10:48pm  

mell says
Merck will release the pill soon


Is that the one that works via the same mechanism as ivermectin but is far more expensive?
56   Patrick   2021 Oct 2, 9:29am  


chris
@charmchris3
Oct 1
When paramedics, nurses and drs are willing to lose their jobs, to stand against mandates that violate body autonomy, thats when you have health professionals practicing medicine with ethics.


https://nitter.pussthecat.org/charmchris3/status/1443836953539923970#m
57   Patrick   2021 Oct 2, 5:44pm  

https://reclaimthenet.org/hospitals-struggle-with-staff-shortages-after-vaccine-passport-mandates/


COVID vaccine passports are being used by governments all over the world to increase vaccination rates and encourage more people to receive the vaccine. As would be expected, the result has been an increased proportion of employees quitting their jobs rather than being compelled to show a vaccine passport to be able to work.

In particular, hospital staff shortages are becoming more prevalent across the country as unvaccinated workers are choosing to leave their employment after the Biden administration mandated that the approximately 17 million workers in health institutions that receive federal Medicare or Medicaid funding have to show a vaccine passport or lose their jobs.

As a result of this, departments of hospitals are closing or reducing healthcare services due to staff shortages caused by the mandates.

With hospitals already stretched thin, the sudden drop in workforce is the difference between some services being halted or discontinued due to a lack of manpower.

Due to a staffing deficit caused by personnel quitting over vaccine regulations, at least one hospital in upstate New York has had to halt maternity treatment and deliveries.

Also, hospital rooms aren’t getting clean sheets and the cafeteria can’t provide hot food due to a staffing deficit in at least one scenario.

Another report from Indiana describes a situation similar to that in North Carolina and New York, with healthcare personnel departing to escape obligatory vaccination.

Moreover, KCBD reports that Brownfield Regional Medical Center in Texas may have to close if the federal vaccine mandate is enforced because of the large number of employees who could resign.

Jerry Jasper, The CEO at Brownfield Regional Medical Center stated to KCBD that “Probably 20 to 25 percent of my staff will have to go away if that’s the case.”

Another CEO, Gerald Cayer of the Lewis County Health System expressed hope that this is a transitory issue as he works with the state Department of Health to prevent the maternity unit from permanently closing because six of the hospital’s maternity unit employees resigned to avoid receiving the COVID-19 vaccine.

“There are 165 hospital employees who have not received a COVID-19 vaccine, which is 27% of the workforce, the other 73%, or 464 employees, have already received the vaccine. If we can pause the service and now focus on recruiting nurses who are vaccinated, we will be able to re engage in delivering babies here in Lewis County,” he said.

Additionally, a representative of Indiana University Health, Indiana’s largest hospital system with over thirty thousand employees, told Newsweek that “125 employees, the equivalent of 61 full-time employees, chose not to receive the COVID-19 vaccine and have left the organization.”

The situation will likely become more acute in the coming months when an increasing number of mandates take effect this month and in November.
58   Shaman   2021 Oct 2, 6:57pm  

Fuck the system! Burn it down! And burn down the vaxxed sick with it!
59   GNL   2021 Oct 2, 9:31pm  

richwicks says
WineHorror1 says
WookieMan says
What the fuck are we doing?

Ask the devil, he's in charge right now.


No. He's not.

We are in charge.

It's the continual war. I was the biggest most vocal atheist 15 years ago. I would have attacked your reasoning and thinking process if you expressed you had belief in ANY god then, and I was extremely effective at doing this, and I had and still have sound arguments.

But I was wrong. It appears that there is a true war between good and evil. Whether this transcends our mortality, I don't know, but it's there. I cannot deny it now. The war on this, it will never end. It's a struggle of our species.

I think we must be improving. We are in a far more gentle and peaceful society than we were 200 or 2000 years ago. I have great hope and confidence...

You may be ready to read "The Great Controversy"...https://www.end-times-prophecy.org/GreatControversy.pdf.

That link is a download of the 404 page book.

You may be ready for a movie called "God is not dead" also.
60   daBear   2021 Oct 2, 9:52pm  

Shaman says
Fuck the system! Burn it down! And burn down the vaxxed sick with it!



I'm beginning to think that FIRE is the best disinfectant.



da bear
61   Patrick   2021 Oct 4, 10:34am  

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2021/09/30/in-a-dramatic-turn-the-once-herald-nurses-and-healthcare-workers-are-being-fired-for-not-getting-their-vaccination-shots/

In A Dramatic Turn, The Once-Heralded Nurses And Healthcare Workers Are Being Fired For Not Getting Their Vaccination Shots
63   Misc   2021 Oct 14, 7:45pm  

The country is down over 500000 healthcare workers since February 2020.

Oh, on September's job report it lost even more healthcare jobs.

Until recently healthcare was growing jobs every month.

Everyone should giggle about how many healthcare workers we're gonna lose in October.

Uhhh, as a hint ... don't get sick.
64   Karloff   2021 Oct 14, 8:20pm  

Misc says
Uhhh, as a hint ... don't get sick.

This is what I have been telling people for the past few months. It's not a joke.

Remove as much dependency on this system as you can. Parts of it won't be available to you, will be incompetent and likely to harm you, or will be reconfigured to deliberately harm you.
65   Patrick   2021 Oct 18, 6:03pm  

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/minnesota-hospital-shuts-down-er-and-urgent-care-amid-nurse-strike_4054839.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net


Minnesota Hospital Shuts Down ER and Urgent Care Amid Nurse Strike
BY JACK PHILLIPS October 18, 2021

A hospital in Minnesota confirmed it temporarily shut down its emergency room and urgent care facility due to a nurse strike.
66   PerfectlyFlawed   2021 Oct 18, 9:48pm  

Patrick says
It's like they're actively trying to piss people off.

Or provoke/establish a narrative to link gun ownership and the unvaxxed by villifying them as violent extremists with a hoaxed or real 'active shooter' situation in a former place of employment.
67   WookieMan   2021 Oct 19, 7:19am  

Karloff says
Parts of it won't be available to you, will be incompetent and likely to harm you, or will be reconfigured to deliberately harm you.

Wasn't and hasn't been adequate in my short lifetime. That's including without Covid happening. Everything is business and trying to extract money from you. Healthcare has ZERO interest in making you healthy. Big Pharma creates pills and medication that damage organs and cause you harm.

Docs are really only good with trauma treatment and some cancer treatments. I'm making a blanket statement, but generally most ailments can be taken care of at home without a doctor visit. 90% of ailments could also be avoided with proper health, sleep, diet, etc.
68   Patrick   2021 Oct 19, 10:59pm  

HunterTits says
Firing 34% of the the nation's entire workforce in the name of vaxx mandates during a time of severe labor shortages also doesn't make sense.

But that is life in Libtard-controlled America.


Economic suicide always seems to be central to leftist thought.
69   Patrick   2021 Oct 26, 11:46am  

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/health-care-workers-speak-out-on-why-they-would-rather-lose-their-jobs-than-take-a-covid-19-vaccine_4065164.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net


“Health care workers are not taking it because they know that the side effects are real. In urgent care, I have seen myocarditis, cellulitis, [and] unusual neurological symptoms, among a variety of other side effects. I have seen people very ill post-vaccine, and then go on to test positive. The positivity rate for contracting COVID on the vaccinated is very high per the recent studies and what I am seeing in my clinic. A vaccine should work, and it is not working. It should be tested for years on something other than humans before we call it ‘safe and effective.’ There have been over 15,000 deaths from the vaccine that the media is not talking about. I will never take that risk on myself,” Zubiate said.
71   richwicks   2021 Oct 29, 4:13pm  

WineHorror1 says
richwicks says
WineHorror1 says
WookieMan says
What the fuck are we doing?

Ask the devil, he's in charge right now.


No. He's not.

We are in charge.

It's the continual war. I was the biggest most vocal atheist 15 years ago. I would have attacked your reasoning and thinking process if you expressed you had belief in ANY god then, and I was extremely effective at doing this, and I had and still have sound arguments.

But I was wrong. It appears that there is a true war between good and evil. Whether this transcends our mortality, I don't know, but it's there. I cannot deny it now. The war on this, it will never end. It's a struggle of our species.

I think we must be improving. We are in a far more gentle and ...


@WineHorror1 - Is this the book you were talking about?

https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/132/toc

You would be aghast at how open I'm willing to read different points of view. I love reading banned books. Except Naked Lunch. The film was fun, the book requires you to be out of your mind on heroin to read.
72   AmericanKulak   2021 Oct 29, 4:55pm  

The Naked Lunch is nuts, the movie Naked Lunch was more like Junky, another Burroughs book.

If you think the Naked Lunch was insane, try the Wild Boys.

I'm 100% sure the epynomous Duran Duran video was inspired by it... gatling guns on pirate ships, Egyptian avatars, totally fucked up.

Warning: Oozing with pederasty and disgustingness.
73   richwicks   2021 Oct 29, 5:08pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
Warning: Oozing with pederasty and disgustingness.


Oh! So like Dizzey's Pinocchio.
74   GNL   2021 Oct 30, 1:44pm  

richwicks says
@WineHorror1 - Is this the book you were talking about?

https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/132/toc

You would be aghast at how open I'm willing to read different points of view. I love reading banned books. Except Naked Lunch. The film was fun, the book requires you to be out of your mind on heroin to read.

@richwicks - sorry for the late reply. Yeah, that's it. In fact, I think I'll listen to it on Spotify myself.
76   richwicks   2021 Oct 30, 7:44pm  

WineHorror1 says
It's also on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF1XqXrDvro


Mmm, I'm grabbing it now.

Youtube has rate limited me, but I'll get it in time.

How interesting, 15 years ago I'd be giving your crap. I have to be honest, I don't agree with you, but I'm not in opposition to your viewpoint even when I disagree with it.

A hard science education, it destroys faith, and questions the usefulness of faith. Jesuits are very well educated, they are in the religious order, and the rumor is that more than 1/2 of them are atheists. I'm not as well educated as them. I think your faith is useful for society, even though I ultimately think it's incorrect.

Still, I'll listen and learn from any point of view.
77   GNL   2021 Oct 30, 8:38pm  

richwicks says
WineHorror1 says
It's also on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF1XqXrDvro


Mmm, I'm grabbing it now.

Youtube has rate limited me, but I'll get it in time.

How interesting, 15 years ago I'd be giving your crap. I have to be honest, I don't agree with you, but I'm not in opposition to your viewpoint even when I disagree with it.

A hard science education, it destroys faith, and questions the usefulness of faith. Jesuits are very well educated, they are in the religious order, and the rumor is that more than 1/2 of them are atheists. I'm not as well educated as them. I think your faith is useful for society, even though I ultimately think it's incorrect.

Still, I'll listen and learn from any point of view.

It's just way too difficult for me to believe there is no God.
78   AmericanKulak   2021 Oct 30, 8:48pm  

WineHorror1 says
It's just way too difficult for me to believe there is no God.





Most Atheist pushed Steady State in the first half of the 20th Century. Even Hoyle, who pushed Steady State and invented the mocking term "Big Bang", was converted to soft Deism.

The Universe has a beginning.

Check out the prevalence of Carbon.

Check out how DNA could have possibly come about? It takes specially shaped amino acids, themselves damned rare, having to interlock "just so", and being able to reproduce from square one. The raw chances of that happening are more than the number of elemental particles in the observable universe.

"Eventually, a group of monkeys will type Shakespeare's Macbeth given enough time."

But that's not the first problem - the monkeys FIRST have to hit upon language and letters, invent grammar, stick with both, and build the typewriter. Not only come up with them, keep using all of them simultaneously, and then keep typing for untold amounts of time.

You could restate it: "Eventually monkeys will hit upon semiconductors, build a CPU, build a compiler, generate a computer language, and a compiler, and then will write an application with it, given enough time"

Oh, and there's no junk DNA. Instead, DNA is omnidirectional, multilayered, incredibly complex, sometimes repetitive but often not.

Great book I'm reading: "Return of the God Hypothesis."

Most people never learn that Newton was a very, very religious person who wrote extensively on theology. He's been presented as Saganites as a key figure in the story of Materialism, when he was anything but such a person. In fact, the top criticism of his Gravitational Theory was that he wasn't trying to be materialistic/naturalistic enough.

The amount of fine tuning in the universe is damned odd.

The problem isn't among physicists, but biologists. Most physicists eventually admit there's something fishy in Denmark.

That's why Atheists and Agnostics are now turning to a form of Intelligent Design, postulating a Sheldon, that we live in a Simulation.
79   GNL   2021 Oct 30, 10:22pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
WineHorror1 says
It's just way too difficult for me to believe there is no God.





Most Atheist pushed Steady State in the first half of the 20th Century. Even Hoyle, who pushed Steady State and invented the mocking term "Big Bang", was converted to soft Deism.

The Universe has a beginning.

Check out the prevalence of Carbon.

Check out how DNA could have possibly come about? It takes specially shaped amino acids, themselves damned rare, having to interlock "just so", and being able to reproduce from square one. The raw chances of that happening are more than the number of elemental particles in the observable universe.

"Eventually, a group of monkeys will type Shakespeare's Macbeth given enough time."

But that's not the first problem - the monkeys FIRST have to hit upon language and letters, invent grammar, stick with both,...

This is why I need faith. I simply do not have the intellect to match your comment or research, let alone the memory you possess to recall such things. I "think" I'm pretty good at deduction though and that is how I roll.
80   Tenpoundbass   2021 Oct 31, 7:21am  

The virus will go away when people quit going to the hospital to be treated for the Cold.
81   Shaman   2021 Oct 31, 9:00am  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
That's why Atheists and Agnostics are now turning to a form of Intelligent Design, postulating a Sheldon, that we live in a Simulation.


Problem for the atheists with this model is that it absolutely REQUIRES a Creator! Whoops!
82   HeadSet   2021 Oct 31, 10:00am  

Shaman says
Problem for the atheists with this model is that it absolutely REQUIRES a Creator! Whoops!

Yes, the shear complexity of life even beyond DNA formation implies intelligent design. Consider:

Parasitic horsehair worm that lives in water but has insect hosts. It finds it way through the food chain to be eaten by a grasshopper and then grows several inches long inside the grasshopper's body. Then it releases a chemical that causes the grasshopper to find water to jump in and drown, after which the worm extrudes from the body.

Zombie ant. A fungus infects an ant, then releases a chemical that causes the ant to climb to a high point and die. A tall stem then grows out of the ant's head, then a knob at the top of the stem sheds spores to infect the ants down below.

Parasitic wasps lay eggs under the skin of caterpillars. The wasp larva devour the caterpillar from the inside without killing it. At the right time, the larva releases a chemical that stops the caterpillar from turning into a moth. The larva later devour the whole caterpillar, pupate, then fly off the mate and find the right species of caterpillar to lay eggs in.

Another parasitic wasp paralyzes tarantulas to lay an egg in. The larva know to save the vital organs for last to keep the paralyzed spider alive long enough for the larva to pupate and fly off.

Now consider how many animals munch other animals in order to survive.

Very complex systems that imply a designer, but not a kind soul. One could say the Devil made the world while God was distracted by Charlotte.
83   Automan Empire   2021 Oct 31, 11:00am  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
Check out how DNA could have possibly come about? It takes specially shaped amino acids, themselves damned rare, having to interlock "just so", and being able to reproduce from square one. The raw chances of that happening are more than the number of elemental particles in the observable universe.


I dispute the math of your odds there. Billions of years stirring and mixing together in primordial soup is a LONG TIME, incomprehensible to human time scales. Look at the Miller-Urey experiment of the 1950s. They mixed together a couple of simple chemicals they thought likely to be present on early Earth, added lightning, and voila, soon had complex amino acids and crudely self replicating molecules. Though the starting mixture they used was subsequently determined to be a poor model for early earth, revised experiments still produce complex amino acids out of simple gases and liquids as building blocks, ON A SCALE OF DAYS. This proves the principle that the building blocks of life "spontaneously arising" isn't as rare or implausible or at mathematically impossible odds as Deists make it out to be, usually with a toss of their hands.

I might buy the hypothesis that higher life forms came from intelligent design elsewhere and earth was at some point "seeded" with DNA. This manner of "god" has ZERO connection to literally everything all the religions of Earth have come up with over thousands of years. It would be amusing to see the reaction of actual "superior beings" from elsewhere when they hear how humans conceptualize them, and how seriously some worship the alien golden calf Strawgod they imagined them to actually be.
84   GNL   2021 Oct 31, 11:33am  

Can anyone explain timelessness and where primordial soup came from?
85   Automan Empire   2021 Oct 31, 12:31pm  

WineHorror1 says
Can anyone explain timelessness and where primordial soup came from?


IDK what you mean by "timelessness." Are you referring to time scales incomprehensible relative to a human second-to-lifetime?

"Primordial soup" is the base stock of simple, inorganic chemicals that existed and evolved over time abiotically before any forms of "life" arose. It was made of the original elements that agglomerated together to form the original proto-Earth, and changed over time from chemical reactions and energy inputs from insolation, volcanism, radioactive decay mainly. For over a billion years (guessing here) there existed a reducing atmosphere with no free oxygen. Life as we know it (outside a few simple extremophiles) couldn't exist then even if the fully assembled DNA sequences were magically transported there by the cubic mile. The "primordial soup" originally consisted of simple elements like nitrogen and carbon dioxide atmosphere, over time it changed to include nitrates and sulfides and much later, free oxygen thanks to biotic processes. The "soup" was god knows what liquids in different places and times. The building blocks of nucleic acids may have been delivered on comets and meteors according to some, but chemically can form just as well from earthly pools of hydrogen cyanide.
86   mell   2021 Oct 31, 12:56pm  

Automan Empire says
WineHorror1 says
Can anyone explain timelessness and where primordial soup came from?


IDK what you mean by "timelessness." Are you referring to time scales incomprehensible relative to a human second-to-lifetime?

"Primordial soup" is the base stock of simple, inorganic chemicals that existed and evolved over time abiotically before any forms of "life" arose. It was made of the original elements that agglomerated together to form the original proto-Earth, and changed over time from chemical reactions and energy inputs from insolation, volcanism, radioactive decay mainly. For over a billion years (guessing here) there existed a reducing atmosphere with no free oxygen. Life as we know it (outside a few simple extremophiles) couldn't exist then even if the fully assembled DNA sequences were magically transported there by the cubic mile. The "primordial soup" originally consisted of simple...


Yeah but while the big bang is controversial these days as well as the continuous expansion vs eventual contraction (as previously thought) to the pre-state, who engineered that state which made it all possible? Surely a Creator / creative force.
87   Patrick   2021 Oct 31, 1:11pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
postulating a Sheldon


Who is Sheldon?

HeadSet says
God was distracted by Charlotte


Who is Charlotte?

The one thing I don't have any good explanation for is consciousness.

I'm pretty sure it's related to recursion. A de-brained cockroach can still scurry away from light, as the photo receptors directly drive the legs. But then you can imagine an intermediate layer of brain which creates the perception of perception. A loop.

Maybe if you point a video camera at its own output monitor (very cool, btw) you see the recursion. Maybe there is some kind of consciousness created in that moment.

But that doesn't explain subjective perception.
88   Patrick   2021 Oct 31, 1:14pm  

I'm pretty sure the Buddhists are on to something when they say that self is just an idea, and not an objective reality.

Pain and pleasure all revolve around the idea of less self or more self.

Things that are painful if considered as resulting in less self can suddenly be perceived as pleasurable if re-interpreted as meaning more self.

And self can include other selves, which is the definition of love imho.

I go on about it ad nauseum here (a little embarrassing, but it's what I really think so far):

https://patrick.net/post/1336214/2020-10-31-how-things-are

I could be wrong about anything or everything of course.
89   GNL   2021 Oct 31, 2:27pm  

I imagine he's talking about Charlotte of Charlotte's Web fame.



90   Shaman   2021 Oct 31, 4:14pm  

Automan Empire says
Look at the Miller-Urey experiment of the 1950s.


That was junk science proving absolutely nothing. In fact it’s been repeatedly debunked.

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