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richwicks says

FuckCCP89 says

Kyiv was the capital of the Russian empire starting in 882 and lasted until around the 13th century.

Isn't it odd nobody seems to be aware of this?

(facepalm) There were no Russian Empire in 882*. That's what happens when somebody substitutes political speeches by FSB fucks in place of learning history.

At the time depicted there was a bunch of independent principalities, Kyiv one of them, but there were Chernihiv, Vladimir, Novgorod, Ryazan, and so on.... Fun fact: Moscow was established by a rogue Kyiv prince, kicked out of there by his cousin. So for Moscow to claim rights to Kyiv would rougly be like Washington claiming rights to London based on "same language, shared history and being basically the same people" and insisting that "UK is not really a country" because of that. Except in this case even the language is not the same.

Kyiv and Moscow were never even a part of the same "country" until 1654 when after uprising against Polish crown Ukrainian hetman (an elected position, btw, not some royalty) has signed a treaty with Moscow Tzardom. Before that it was part of Kingdom of Poland and Grand Duchy of Lithuania.

*) Russian Empire as such came to be only in 1720 or so.

As for more modern times: Ukraine has declared its independence from Russian Empire in 1917, was then conquered by Commie hordes a.k.a Red Army in 1921, remained a part of USSR until 1991, restored its independence as a result of a referendum in that year and was accepted as independent state by every single nation, including Russia with which it additionally signed a bilateral treaty affirming mutual recognition of independence, borders and territorial integrity. So there is no and never was any ambiguity wrt is it "really a country" despite whatever is happening in Putin's bald cabeza.

Eric Holder says

So there is no and never was any ambiguity wrt is it "really a country" despite whatever is happening in Putin's bald cabeza.

I wish I could have liked that post twice.

Eric Holder says

Kyiv was the capital of the Russian empire starting in 882 and lasted until around the 13th century.

Isn't it odd nobody seems to be aware of this?

(facepalm) There were no Russian Empire in 882*. That's what happens when somebody substitutes political speeches by FSB fucks in place of learning history.

Fine the Russian kingdom then.

Eric Holder says

At the time depicted there was a bunch of independent principalities, Kyiv one of them, but there were Chernihiv, Vladimir, Novgorod, Ryazan, and so on.... Fun fact: Moscow was established by a rogue Kyiv prince, kicked out of there by his cousin. So for Moscow to claim rights to Kyiv would rougly be like Washington claiming rights to London

Really? Who gives a shit?

Russia doesn't want any more NATO countries on its border. That's all it's fucking asking for. That seems reasonable, and it's the US that overthrew Ukraine. It's stupid and insanely hypocritical to be screaming about "Russian aggression" and I'm tired of the constant fucking hypocrisy and endless stupid, childish propaganda.

Like the the Skripal's that were supposedly poisoned at their home, and two homosexual Russians on vacation are being blamed for it. It's just so fucking stupid but what blows my mind is people believe this bullshit. I'm just tired of this stupid childish constant hysteria and I'm downright insulted that our propaganda are so fucking stupid and think I'm as fucking stupid as they are.

Just for once, for ONE TIME, in my life, I would like my country to NOT waste a few trillion dollars on another stupid fucking war, and just do something for internal infrastructure instead of egging on yet ANOTHER fucking war. All these wars do is fuck up the nation, screw up the people, cost the US taxpayers money, and impoverish the country in general and therefore weakens it further.

But if you want to push for another fucking war, well, it's a quasi free country for people who do. That's what the fucking criminals in charge want you to do after all. Be their bitch.

richwicks says

All these wars do is fuck up the nation, screw up the people, cost the US taxpayers money, and impoverish the country in general and therefore weakens it further.

Well, that's not all they do.

They also make certain rich people much richer.

And those people decide these matters, not us:

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf?source=patrick.net

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial
independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no
independent influence.

Tenpoundbass says

I have long suspected that that noise is deliberate, a marketing strategy.

Did this turn into the 'Funny Ukraine Thread'?

richwicks says

FuckCCP89 says

Kyiv was the capital of the Russian empire starting in 882 and lasted until around the 13th century.

Isn't it odd nobody seems to be aware of this?

Saw this one, thought you will find it funny.

richwicks says

Fine the Russian kingdom then.

It was called "Kiev Rus". The Russia that you know appropriated a version of the name.

richwicks says

Really? Who gives a shit?

You apparently give a shit. You are the one who made this moronic claim, followed by a somewhat condescending remark.
It literally seems that you are using the proverbial FSB booklets - those designed to be manipulative, not accurate - for sources, and then spread around their wisdom. With predictable results.

richwicks says

Russia doesn't want any more NATO countries on its border.

You seem to be confused between NATO and EU. NATO had these last 8 years to get Ukraine if it wanted to. It apparently doesn't want to. If I had to guess, because it's already close enough (Latvia, Estonia), getting closer gives little if any strategic advantage.

However, if Russia consumes Ukraine, it then WILL get another NATO country at it's border. Four countries, in fact: Poland, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia.

richwicks says

That's all it's fucking asking for.

Oh, how cute. "They are not bloodthirsty, they are just misunderstood."

Patrick says

Tenpoundbass says

I have long suspected that that noise is deliberate, a marketing strategy.

Yes, moms and wives love having a cake with a built-in burglar alarm.

Maths by womyn, exactly as stereotypes say:

Bd6r says

Maths by womyn, exactly as stereotypes say:

They probably hold the majority of worthless degrees.

Bd6r says

Maths by womyn, exactly as stereotypes say:

Link or it didn't happen.

richwicks says

Link or it didn't happen.

I made the screenshot myself as I suspect that tweet is so idiotic it may go away.

Meanwhile, please learn how to use yandex

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/womensmarch/status/1495820119473336321?source=patrick.net#m

Bd6r says

richwicks says

Link or it didn't happen.

Please learn how to use yandex

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/womensmarch/status/1495820119473336321?source=patrick.net#m

Just post the fucking link. Don't make everybody jump through hoops each time. Just post the fucking link.

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/womensmarch/status/1495820119473336321

You know why our "news" doesn't post links to "sources" of documents they cite? Because they're lying. This is why you NEVER saw a link or even a quote from the Mueller Report when it has "proof" of Russian collusion.

It's CORRECT to assume that unless a link is posted, it's bullshit because 99% of the time, it is - especially when it's so trivial to post the goddamned link.

Oh, and I'll do one better:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220715000000*/https://nitter.pussthecat.org/womensmarch/status/1495820119473336321?source=patrick.net

I've archived it as well - although it's still indexing at the time I'm writing this.

richwicks says

Just post the fucking link. Don't make everybody jump through hoops each time. Just post the fucking link.

In case you don't understand, I am not making a serious political argument here, I am not talking about our or Russian gubbermints lying, or war. I am posting A FUNNY FUCKING PICTURE.

Some people have to make everything fucking serious and humorless.

Bd6r says

richwicks says

Just post the fucking link. Don't make everybody jump through hoops each time. Just post the fucking link.

In case you don't understand, I am not making a serious political argument here, I am not talking about our or Russian gubbermints lying, or war. I am posting a link in FUNNY FUCKING PICTURES.

Allow people to verify facts. It's so annoying people post without references.

I was quite obsessive about fact checking the media at one point, until I realized they lie about literally almost everything. I guarantee that people that already decided that wasn't possibly true WOULDN'T verify it was true. I absolutely guarantee it.

I know it's a joke thread, I don't care. The purpose of communication is primarily to allow people to think and change minds in my opinion.

richwicks says

Allow people to verify facts. It's so annoying people post without references.

It was pretty easy to look up. It's real:

https://nitter.net/womensmarch/status/1495820119473336321?source=patrick.net#m

richwicks masochist: please, more links, more links!

richwicks sadist; NO!

richwicks says

The purpose of communication is primarily to allow people to think

The purpose of communicating with women is primarily to allow people to get laid.

Ceffer says

richwicks masochist: please, more links, more links!

richwicks sadist; NO!

Haha, I find those two groups to be two mentally ill people that work out, but I'd still suggest therapy for each.

I did look up the href="https://www.patrick.net/post/1200568/?comment_id=1820950">links myself by the way. I always do when I'm curious. I also archived it in case the original post is corrected for the terrible math.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

The purpose of communication is primarily to allow people to think

The purpose of communicating with women is primarily to allow people to get laid.

Not on the Internet unless you think jerking off is equivalent to getting laid.

A hole in one? Oh, I crack myself up.

HunterTits says

I hate it when Millennials make Boomer and Gen-X memes. They always get it wrong.
Gen Xers weren't born until 1965, the Cuban missle crisis happened in 1962,. It was my middle school teachers, that first told me about when they were in School they hid under the desks. We weren't even born yet.

Tenpoundbass says

I hate it when Millennials make Boomer and Gen-X memes. They always get it wrong.
Gen Xers weren't born until 1965, the Cuban missle crisis happened in 1962,. It was my middle school teachers, that first told me about when they were in School they hid under the desks. We weren't even born yet.

I'm an Xer.

I have fond memories of bomb drills in elementary school going to a padded room in the basement (padded for the wrestlers who practiced there - I was in a K-12 all in one building school). Other times we would go to a basement hallway and sit against the wall when the padded room was already full. I can't remember when that silly shit stopped but it was before sixth grade. In hindsight it is kind of funny how normalized it was for us.

stfu says

Tenpoundbass says

I hate it when Millennials make Boomer and Gen-X memes. They always get it wrong.
Gen Xers weren't born until 1965, the Cuban missle crisis happened in 1962,. It was my middle school teachers, that first told me about when they were in School they hid under the desks. We weren't even born yet.

I'm an Xer.

I have fond memories of bomb drills in elementary school going to a padded room in the basement (padded for the wrestlers who practiced there - I was in a K-12 all in one building school). Other times we would go to a basement hallway and sit against the wall when the padded room was already full. I can't remember when that silly shit stopped but it was before sixth grade. In hindsight it is kind of funny how normalized it was for us.

I am an X'er born in 71. I never experienced it.

stfu says

I'm an Xer.

Did you live in Hawaii? We did fire drills constantly which I don't think schools do much anymore. But no bomb drills where we got under the desks.