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clambo
2022 Mar 17, 9:38am
The posts above assume that I am using traditional media or Ukraine media to form my opinions.
Why make that assumption?
The stranded Russian column far from the Russian border speaks for itself.
Dead generals speaks for itself.
Putin prohibited calling the “special operation” a war or invasion with a 15 year prison threat speaks for itself.
Putin placing the head of intelligence department under house arrest speaks for itself.
Purging of generals has begun which speaks for itself.
Equipment stranded, abandoned, destroyed, stuck in the mud speaks for itself.
Putin changing his “demands” speaks for itself.
Why make that assumption?
The stranded Russian column far from the Russian border speaks for itself.
Dead generals speaks for itself.
Putin prohibited calling the “special operation” a war or invasion with a 15 year prison threat speaks for itself.
Putin placing the head of intelligence department under house arrest speaks for itself.
Purging of generals has begun which speaks for itself.
Equipment stranded, abandoned, destroyed, stuck in the mud speaks for itself.
Putin changing his “demands” speaks for itself.
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RC2006
2022 Mar 17, 9:53am
RC2006
2022 Mar 17, 9:53am
Excellent podcast and info on Ukraine.
https://martyrmade.com/thoughts-on-ukraine/?source=patrick.net
https://martyrmade.com/thoughts-on-ukraine/?source=patrick.net
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clambo
2022 Mar 17, 10:44am
Now the Kremlin is talking tough, a sign of weakness from my past experience.
A Putin asslicker threatened “We have the might to put you in your place.”
Tweety bird to Sylvester the cat “ooh, that’s so scarwee”.
Russia is a country like a Three Stooges episode, unfortunately ruled by despots and plundered by the oligarch friends thereof.
An unfriended oligarch goes to prison, or worse.
A Putin asslicker threatened “We have the might to put you in your place.”
Tweety bird to Sylvester the cat “ooh, that’s so scarwee”.
Russia is a country like a Three Stooges episode, unfortunately ruled by despots and plundered by the oligarch friends thereof.
An unfriended oligarch goes to prison, or worse.
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Bitcoin
2022 Mar 17, 10:53am
Bitcoin
2022 Mar 17, 10:53am
Its beautiful to see Russia's default. Nothing says losing like a closed stock market. The oligarchs are upset, the russian people hate Putin and Russia's economy is getting fucked.
The Chinese were watching and probably think: fuck this....if we invade another country we will be fucked too.
Russia is done. Putin is done.
The Chinese were watching and probably think: fuck this....if we invade another country we will be fucked too.
Russia is done. Putin is done.
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clambo
2022 Mar 17, 11:27am
China definitely has been rethinking the prospect of invading Taiwan.
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Patrick
2022 Mar 17, 11:43am
Patrick
2022 Mar 17, 11:43am
komputodo says
I feel the same disappointment as when lots of people just believed that masks would do something, or that it was somehow OK to take an experimental drug which hadn't even been tested on animals, and to force others to take it on pain of being fired for refusal.
What is really telling is that the media knows that lots of people will believe any outlandish story they make up, supported by Unnamed US officials.
I feel the same disappointment as when lots of people just believed that masks would do something, or that it was somehow OK to take an experimental drug which hadn't even been tested on animals, and to force others to take it on pain of being fired for refusal.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Mar 17, 11:49am
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Mar 17, 11:49am
clambo says
You know why they do this right? Same reason why Ukraine called their war "anti terrorist operation". IMF reasons.
This thread looks more like some war propaganda, I don't mind, just telling you it's unrealistic. If it was this way, Ukraine wouldn't be announcing that they are not going to join NATO. Give it another month and it'll all be over, and we will go back to fearing covid or some other manufactured shit.
Putin prohibited calling the “special operation” a war or invasion with a 15 year prison threat speaks for itself.
You know why they do this right? Same reason why Ukraine called their war "anti terrorist operation". IMF reasons.
This thread looks more like some war propaganda, I don't mind, just telling you it's unrealistic. If it was this way, Ukraine wouldn't be announcing that they are not going to join NATO. Give it another month and it'll all be over, and we will go back to fearing covid or some other manufactured shit.
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clambo
2022 Mar 17, 12:56pm
I know why Putin doesn’t call it a war nor an invasion; he knows neither is popular among the Russian people.
Unfortunately for Putin, the news of dead soldiers is trickling in, or even some prisoners are calling their mothers telling them about the war.
Unfortunately for Putin, the news of dead soldiers is trickling in, or even some prisoners are calling their mothers telling them about the war.
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AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 17, 1:00pm
AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 17, 1:00pm
Booger says
Denied by both Russia and China. Sourcing for it is the same "anonymous sources" that said Trump paid Hookers to pee on a bed, or that his phone call with Zelensky was bad, etc.
komputodo says
highly placed unnamed US officials familiar with the story, heh.
Putin asking for military help from China is very telling!
Denied by both Russia and China. Sourcing for it is the same "anonymous sources" that said Trump paid Hookers to pee on a bed, or that his phone call with Zelensky was bad, etc.
komputodo says
supported by Unnamed US officials.
highly placed unnamed US officials familiar with the story, heh.
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AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 17, 1:03pm
AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 17, 1:03pm
Save_Ukraine says
Right, the country that survived Gulags, Holodomors, Multiyear sieges of Leningrad, 90s Gangster Oligarchy, Nuclear Disasters, etc. is going to be crushed because Ivan Ivanovich lost a few week's wages on the Moscow stock exchange. That's as delusional as that WaPo chick who claimed that banning luxury expensive $80/lb Italian Cheeses would make Ivan oust Putin. Ivan the bus driver and Natasha the Nurse don't eat $80 luxury cheese any more than Joe the Plumber in the USA drinks $80 Burgundy.
To give you an idea of how isolated and in danger the Putin regime is, he just purged a bunch of high ranking generals and FSB "Fifth District" (Foreign) Senior Officials. Not the act of a guy increasingly losing control and desperate to placate support. That IS evidence it's not going as easy as he was told, but not the act of a guy losing control of the government. 70%+ of the Russian population supports their "Intervention in Ukraine"
Its beautiful to see Russia's default. Nothing says losing like a closed stock market. The oligarchs are upset, the russian people hate Putin and Russia's economy is getting fucked.
The Chinese were watching and probably think: fuck this....if we invade another country we will be fucked too.
Russia is done. Putin is done.
Right, the country that survived Gulags, Holodomors, Multiyear sieges of Leningrad, 90s Gangster Oligarchy, Nuclear Disasters, etc. is going to be crushed because Ivan Ivanovich lost a few week's wages on the Moscow stock exchange. That's as delusional as that WaPo chick who claimed that banning luxury expensive $80/lb Italian Cheeses would make Ivan oust Putin. Ivan the bus driver and Natasha the Nurse don't eat $80 luxury cheese any more than Joe the Plumber in the USA drinks $80 Burgundy.
To give you an idea of how isolated and in danger the Putin regime is, he just purged a bunch of high ranking generals and FSB "Fifth District" (Foreign) Senior Officials. Not the act of a guy increasingly losing control and desperate to placate support. That IS evidence it's not going as easy as he was told, but not the act of a guy losing control of the government. 70%+ of the Russian population supports their "Intervention in Ukraine"
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AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 17, 1:08pm
AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 17, 1:08pm
WineHorror1 says
That many videos are fakes. Like the famous pic of the bloody faced blonde middle aged chick that ran on the cover of several UK Newspapers was from a Chemical Explosion years back, nothing to do with Ukraine.
Please explain what I am supposed to "get" from this video.
That many videos are fakes. Like the famous pic of the bloody faced blonde middle aged chick that ran on the cover of several UK Newspapers was from a Chemical Explosion years back, nothing to do with Ukraine.
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richwicks
2022 Mar 17, 2:02pm
richwicks
2022 Mar 17, 2:02pm
Patrick says
It appears that some people seem incapable of realizing that their media lies to them constantly.
Also, maybe these people are only pretending to sleep, and they are fully awake, but they feel some sort of impulse to push the propaganda anyhow.
komputodo saysWhat is really telling is that the media knows that lots of people will believe any outlandish story they make up, supported by Unnamed US officials.
I feel the same disappointment as when lots of people just believed that masks would do something, or that it was somehow OK to take an experimental drug which hadn't even been tested on animals, and to force others to take it on pain of being fired for refusal.
It appears that some people seem incapable of realizing that their media lies to them constantly.
Also, maybe these people are only pretending to sleep, and they are fully awake, but they feel some sort of impulse to push the propaganda anyhow.
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Eric Holder
2022 Mar 17, 2:07pm
Eric Holder
2022 Mar 17, 2:07pm
WineHorror1 says
Russians use this tactic of flooding the 'net with miriads of obvious crude fakes to make you think that everything else is fake too. They employed the same tactic with MH-17 crash: fabricated at least 5 different "versions" from "it was Ukie missile" to "look at this sattelite picture of Ukie Mig-29 shooting a rocket at MH-17" where the Mig is literally 3 miles long.
Ceffer says
Please explain what I am supposed to "get" from this video.
Russians use this tactic of flooding the 'net with miriads of obvious crude fakes to make you think that everything else is fake too. They employed the same tactic with MH-17 crash: fabricated at least 5 different "versions" from "it was Ukie missile" to "look at this sattelite picture of Ukie Mig-29 shooting a rocket at MH-17" where the Mig is literally 3 miles long.
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richwicks
2022 Mar 17, 2:13pm
richwicks
2022 Mar 17, 2:13pm
Eric Holder says
The US does this as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf8PvDMPgI8&source=patrick.net
It's our media that lies to us CONSTANTLY yet you continue to believe it.
People like you, you're just lost. You demonstrate over and over and over you simply cannot learn to ignore liars.
After 2 years of lies about the coof, you're right back to defending the US media complex and are puking out "it's Russian Bots!" - after the media has been lying about them for 5 years.
You're hopeless.
Russians use this tactic of flooding the 'net with miriads of obvious crude fakes to make you think that everything else is fake too.
The US does this as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf8PvDMPgI8&source=patrick.net
It's our media that lies to us CONSTANTLY yet you continue to believe it.
People like you, you're just lost. You demonstrate over and over and over you simply cannot learn to ignore liars.
After 2 years of lies about the coof, you're right back to defending the US media complex and are puking out "it's Russian Bots!" - after the media has been lying about them for 5 years.
You're hopeless.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Mar 17, 2:17pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2022 Mar 17, 2:17pm
Eric Holder says
I doubt Russia does this. Every time our faggots at CNN screamed "its russian disinformation" it at the end EVERY TIME turned out to be American, every time. It's been so many times man, I stopped counting long ago. It's probably ours. They filter Russian information out from the web, you can't really find it. But our deep state American propaganda oozes from every corner. Just look at all the swamp faggots who played a revolution to kick Trump out? That took a lot of coordinated effort and propaganda.
Russians use this tactic of flooding the 'net with miriads of obvious crude fakes to make you think that everything else is fake too. They employed the same tactic with MH-17 crash: fabricated at least 5 different "versions" from "it was Ukie missile" to "look at this sattelite picture of Ukie Mig-29 shooting a rocket at MH-17" where the Mig is literally 3 miles long.
I doubt Russia does this. Every time our faggots at CNN screamed "its russian disinformation" it at the end EVERY TIME turned out to be American, every time. It's been so many times man, I stopped counting long ago. It's probably ours. They filter Russian information out from the web, you can't really find it. But our deep state American propaganda oozes from every corner. Just look at all the swamp faggots who played a revolution to kick Trump out? That took a lot of coordinated effort and propaganda.
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RWSGFY
2022 Mar 17, 2:33pm
RWSGFY
2022 Mar 17, 2:33pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
Well, bless your heart.
Eric Holder saysRussians use this tactic of flooding the 'net with miriads of obvious crude fakes to make you think that everything else is fake too. They employed the same tactic with MH-17 crash: fabricated at least 5 different "versions" from "it was Ukie missile" to "look at this sattelite picture of Ukie Mig-29 shooting a rocket at MH-17" where the Mig is literally 3 miles long.
I doubt Russia does this.
Well, bless your heart.
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richwicks
2022 Mar 17, 2:36pm
richwicks
2022 Mar 17, 2:36pm
RWSGFY says
@FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut is 100% right.
Every time our bullshit propaganda "news" screaming "Russian disinformation" it turned out to originate from the US bullshit propaganda machine.
Well, bless your heart.
@FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut is 100% right.
Every time our bullshit propaganda "news" screaming "Russian disinformation" it turned out to originate from the US bullshit propaganda machine.
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Ceffer
2022 Mar 17, 3:11pm
Ceffer
2022 Mar 17, 3:11pm
"What's this crazy talk on the blogs about the Russians being stalled?" "The Russians are winning. They are getting closer every day. I SEE them getting closer."
"“The Russians Are Losing!”? Really? (Prelude to a False Flag) 7min video"
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=195450&source=patrick.net
"“The Russians Are Losing!”? Really? (Prelude to a False Flag) 7min video"
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=195450&source=patrick.net
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GNL
2022 Mar 17, 5:51pm
GNL
2022 Mar 17, 5:51pm
AmericanKulak says
It just shows the same video side by side. I don't get it.
WineHorror1 saysPlease explain what I am supposed to "get" from this video.
That many videos are fakes. Like the famous pic of the bloody faced blonde middle aged chick that ran on the cover of several UK Newspapers was from a Chemical Explosion years back, nothing to do with Ukraine.
It just shows the same video side by side. I don't get it.
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Booger
2022 Mar 17, 5:57pm
Booger
2022 Mar 17, 5:57pm
Russia lost 4 generals already:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/death-of-russian-generals-in-ukraine-expose-vulnerabilities-in-moscows-military-tactics-11647441273?source=patrick.net
I remember when generals were much safer than regular infantry (proportionally speaking).
"The deaths of Gen. Vitaly Gerasimov, Gen. Andrei Kolesnikov, Gen. Oleg Mityaev and Gen. Andrei Sukhovetsky were announced by Ukrainian officials and confirmed by some Russian media reports, but not the Kremlin."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/death-of-russian-generals-in-ukraine-expose-vulnerabilities-in-moscows-military-tactics-11647441273?source=patrick.net
I remember when generals were much safer than regular infantry (proportionally speaking).
"The deaths of Gen. Vitaly Gerasimov, Gen. Andrei Kolesnikov, Gen. Oleg Mityaev and Gen. Andrei Sukhovetsky were announced by Ukrainian officials and confirmed by some Russian media reports, but not the Kremlin."
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mostly reader
2022 Mar 17, 6:25pm
Booger says
Russia lost 4 generals alreadyYesterday, they destroyed the command post of the 35th Army of the Eastern Military District. It's a cluster of high-rank officers. I'd expect that the number is going to jump once the final (pun intended) book-counting is done but we'll see, it'd require confirmation from the Russians.
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clambo
2022 Mar 17, 6:26pm
“70% of Russians support the war.”
They are only able to see and hear Putin approved “news.”
The opinion of the Russian population is irrelevant because they don’t want to go fight either, the soldiers in Ukraine are 80% conscripts.
Even generals are not safe in Ukraine.
They are only able to see and hear Putin approved “news.”
The opinion of the Russian population is irrelevant because they don’t want to go fight either, the soldiers in Ukraine are 80% conscripts.
Even generals are not safe in Ukraine.
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mostly reader
2022 Mar 17, 6:32pm
mostly reader says
It would be fun to pretend that ratio of killed generals is statistically similar to the number of their killed subordinates, ratio-wise. Given that the lowest general rank (general-major) is in command of approximately 15,000 heads, that would put the number of losses at about 60,000. Not even Ukrainian propaganda claims that. From which I imply that either Russian forces are "top-heavy", or Ukrainians do amazingly good job weeding out top of the iceberg, and creating this statistical bias. If you are a general in Russian military, and you've been called to "liberate" Ukraine, you should have your will ready.
Booger saysTo be clear: 4 is the number that Russian sources (not the Kremlin) confirmed.Russia lost 4 generals alreadyYesterday, they destroyed the command post of the 35th Army of the Eastern Military District. It's a cluster of high-rank officers. I'd expect that number 4 is going to jump once the final (pun intended) book-counting is done but we'll see, it'd require confirmation from the Russians.
It would be fun to pretend that ratio of killed generals is statistically similar to the number of their killed subordinates, ratio-wise. Given that the lowest general rank (general-major) is in command of approximately 15,000 heads, that would put the number of losses at about 60,000. Not even Ukrainian propaganda claims that. From which I imply that either Russian forces are "top-heavy", or Ukrainians do amazingly good job weeding out top of the iceberg, and creating this statistical bias. If you are a general in Russian military, and you've been called to "liberate" Ukraine, you should have your will ready.
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clambo
2022 Mar 18, 8:04am
I’m probably rude, but I think it’s lame to post other people’s shit.
I’m referring to YouTube videos, pictures of a bipolar rapper, etc.
I think it’s lazy.
I’m referring to YouTube videos, pictures of a bipolar rapper, etc.
I think it’s lazy.
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RWSGFY
2022 Mar 18, 8:40am
RWSGFY
2022 Mar 18, 8:40am
WineHorror1 says
They "debunk" an obviously fake video they themselves planted. The goal is to imply and make you believe that all video evidence of destruction of civilian infrastructure in Ukraine is fake. Propaganda 101.
AmericanKulak saysWineHorror1 saysPlease explain what I am supposed to "get" from this video.
That many videos are fakes. Like the famous pic of the bloody faced blonde middle aged chick that ran on the cover of several UK Newspapers was from a Chemical Explosion years back, nothing to do with Ukraine.
It just shows the same video side by side. I don't get it.
They "debunk" an obviously fake video they themselves planted. The goal is to imply and make you believe that all video evidence of destruction of civilian infrastructure in Ukraine is fake. Propaganda 101.
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komputodo
2022 Mar 18, 11:32am
komputodo
2022 Mar 18, 11:32am
clambo says
yeah especially when it goes against the narrative and makes too much sense.
I’m probably rude, but I think it’s lame to post other people’s shit.
yeah especially when it goes against the narrative and makes too much sense.
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Eric Holder
2022 Mar 18, 11:39am
Eric Holder
2022 Mar 18, 11:39am
komputodo says
It makes as much sense as a very true statement that "same people who raped children are drinking wine".
What possible intelligent consclusion can be made from reading such a statement? Shall I be ashamed that I drink wine too? Shall I quit drinking wine based solely on that statement? This is a primitive manipulation, sorry to break it to you.
clambo saysI’m probably rude, but I think it’s lame to post other people’s shit.
yeah especially when it goes against the narrative and makes too much sense.
It makes as much sense as a very true statement that "same people who raped children are drinking wine".
What possible intelligent consclusion can be made from reading such a statement? Shall I be ashamed that I drink wine too? Shall I quit drinking wine based solely on that statement? This is a primitive manipulation, sorry to break it to you.
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AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 18, 12:13pm
AmericanKulak
2022 Mar 18, 12:13pm
clambo says
And Americans are only seeing Globalist Approved news. Kinda like COVID.
Have we learned nothing in the past few years?
Watch the first few minutes on Bannon today.
original link
They are only able to see and hear Putin approved “news.”
And Americans are only seeing Globalist Approved news. Kinda like COVID.
Have we learned nothing in the past few years?
Watch the first few minutes on Bannon today.
original link
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richwicks
2022 Mar 22, 5:46pm
richwicks
2022 Mar 22, 5:46pm
RWSGFY says
With the Ghost of Kiev and, the murder of everybody on Snake Island, and video game footage being passed off as war footage - ALL DONE BY OUR US "NEWS" MEDIA - it's hardly necessary.
This is the news media syndicate that tried to pass off a Kentucky gun show as a viscous attack against Kurds by Turkey in order to restart the Syrian war after all.
BTW (and I'm seriously asking) are these live or faked?
https://webcam.scs.com.ua/en/europe/ukraine/
This is claimed to be Kiev:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek1bqrms6ls
They "debunk" an obviously fake video they themselves planted. The goal is to imply and make you believe that all video evidence of destruction of civilian infrastructure in Ukraine is fake. Propaganda 101.
With the Ghost of Kiev and, the murder of everybody on Snake Island, and video game footage being passed off as war footage - ALL DONE BY OUR US "NEWS" MEDIA - it's hardly necessary.
This is the news media syndicate that tried to pass off a Kentucky gun show as a viscous attack against Kurds by Turkey in order to restart the Syrian war after all.
BTW (and I'm seriously asking) are these live or faked?
https://webcam.scs.com.ua/en/europe/ukraine/
This is claimed to be Kiev:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek1bqrms6ls
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clambo
2022 Mar 22, 9:03pm
Looks like I was correct, the mighty Russian military is not succeeding after almost one month.
10,000 and 6 generals deadski. 400 tanks and thousands of vehicles blasted, 15,000+ wounded.
Ukraine is enticing some Russian soldiers to desert; they are sending texts to them to surrender and get cash rewards and application for citizenship.
A Ukraine passport might be an incentive for someone who was conscripted and pissed off.
Putin just locked up a guy for 9 years whom he poisoned.
A bunch of kremlin generals and the Russian intelligence agency guy is in house arrest.
I’m having fun watching random YouTubes of the Russian disaster.
10,000 and 6 generals deadski. 400 tanks and thousands of vehicles blasted, 15,000+ wounded.
Ukraine is enticing some Russian soldiers to desert; they are sending texts to them to surrender and get cash rewards and application for citizenship.
A Ukraine passport might be an incentive for someone who was conscripted and pissed off.
Putin just locked up a guy for 9 years whom he poisoned.
A bunch of kremlin generals and the Russian intelligence agency guy is in house arrest.
I’m having fun watching random YouTubes of the Russian disaster.
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zzyzzx
2022 Mar 24, 8:39am
zzyzzx
2022 Mar 24, 8:39am
Japan has seized Russian assets, claimed disputed territory with Russia, and has sanctioned Russian civilians.
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zzyzzx
2022 Mar 24, 8:41am
zzyzzx
2022 Mar 24, 8:41am
clambo says
I had heard that they were offering $10,000 for a tank, and that they are getting some takers.
Would be pretty funny if this was actually happening.
Ukraine is enticing some Russian soldiers to desert; they are sending texts to them to surrender and get cash rewards and application for citizenship.
I had heard that they were offering $10,000 for a tank, and that they are getting some takers.
Would be pretty funny if this was actually happening.
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Eric Holder
2022 Mar 24, 8:45am
Eric Holder
2022 Mar 24, 8:45am
zzyzzx says
Japan has never signed a peace accord with Russia. Meaning that they never accepted Russia in its present borders.
Japan has seized Russian assets, claimed disputed territory with Russia, and has sanctioned Russian civilians.
Japan has never signed a peace accord with Russia. Meaning that they never accepted Russia in its present borders.
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The month Putin chose to invade was wrong, but maybe intended to freeze Germany by cutting off the natural gas? He should have invaded in good weather.
The columns you saw of both attack and supply equipment have to travel on roads, or get stuck in the mud.
Ukraine fighters ambush the supply trucks, then no fuel and no food for the soldiers.
The long column you saw was vehicles that had no fuel, and soldiers spent nights with no warmth and no food in 10F nights. The column actually could neither advance nor retreat.
Nobody wants to drive a supply truck since he knows he’s a target, more so than a tank.
The communications of Russian guys isn’t secure; for some reason they cannot use the secure comms they developed. So, Russian soldiers are using iPhones and walkie talkies.
Ukraine guys use “find my iPhone” or similar technology to “reach out and touch someone” with artillery or drone, etc.
This is how they could kill some Russian generals and commanders who were not on the front lines.
The Russians did not have enough precision bombs and have low training time, and air and ground forces are not coordinated, so Russia has no air superiority to protect the sitting ducks in the columns in the road.
Kiev is so large that the Russians are not numerous enough to encircle it.
Putin is not able to call up all of the Russian army without admitting the “special operation” is in fact a war.
So, he’s trying to get Belarus to send cannon fodder, along with Syrian sacrificial soldiers.
(Belarus is not enthusiastic about the idea).
Meanwhile, the Russian conscripts are being hunted down by Ukraine forces and the dead are estimated at 5000 to 15,000
Edit: US Pentagon says 7000 deadskis.
Wounded are likely 3x the number of dead.
It’s too many dead and wounded too soon.
Just recently videos of Russian atrocities against civilians are embarrassing Putin.
There is a tank swerving to run over and crush a civilian car, cars with people inside blown up, people massacred waiting for bread, an old guy shot for walking down the street.
The lie about NATO “provoked” Russia is easily debunked by the Feb 14 meeting in Kiev of chancellor Scholz and Zelensky.
Germany Chancellor Scholz : It was strange Russia would raise this issue (Ukraine in NATO) given it is not on the agenda.
Putin knew that Germany, therefore NATO, had no plans to bring Ukraine into the alliance, however much Ukraine desired it.
Evidently Ukraine doesn’t need NATO; they are going to be armed to the teeth after this is over.