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Netflix stock plummets due to losing more subscribers


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2022 Apr 20, 6:32am   6,425 views  53 comments

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https://www.thestreet.com/markets/netflix-stock-slumps-as-viewer-exodus-prompts-advertising-re-think?puyahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&source=patrick.net


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Netflix posted the first decline in annual subscriber growth in more than a decade late Tuesday, losing 200,000 global subscribers over the three months ending in March, significantly missing the Street consensus forecast of a 2.5 million gain and taking the overall total down to 221.64 million.

Around 700,000 of those were the result of cutting its service in Russia, Netflix said, but the bulk of the exodus was put down to rising prices, increasing competition and password sharing, which Netflix estimated at around 100 million households world wide.
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Rising prices and increasing competition make sense, but password sharing sounds like an issues theyve had for a decade, so I think its a BS reason.

I also think they left out another reason for failure: wokeness. Netflix has been ramping up their woke propaganda rapidly these past few years. IMO covid made people much more tolerant to that, so they pinched their noses and held onto their subscriptions anyway because they wanted entertainment while locked indoors. Now that society is mostly back to normal, some are rejecting it.

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10   richwicks   2022 Apr 20, 9:07am  

NuttBoxer says
@Patrick, had to edit this post several times. Are you aware the single word that equals child sex is being translated to Disney?


Yes he is. It was a suggestion that any reference to p-e-d-o-p-h-i-l-a just be translated to "disney" - because that's what Disney is.

https://www.patrick.net/post/1277846?560#comment-1835301

If you use the word p-e-d-o-p-h-i-l-a on major sites, your post is deleted. There is a definite push to normalized disneys now but censoring disney will destroy Disney. That's the joke. People have started to use this term because it's very difficult to censor, but it's a new term:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Disney

If the D wants to promote it, they can fucking own it.
11   Patrick   2022 Apr 20, 9:34am  

I know it's surprising if you're not expecting it. I could always change the site back so it doesn't do that.
12   KgK one   2022 Apr 20, 9:40am  

Netflix = women running shit, all the gay ppl and black women helping her. And everyone wants to fuck other race, specially black men Craving white women n treating them nice ( real life making them baby moms n dash) lol. Lot of feelings.

Asian men, don't exist. White men are bad guys.

Most movies have stories created to support above
16   Ceffer   2022 Apr 20, 10:39am  

Just watched a British Netlix show my wife wanted to see about a female British prosecutor trying an up and coming MP for 'raping' a woman he had an affair with for six months then broke off with. The bippy claimed post ipso 'toss off' that she was raped in an elevator by said MP, even though it looked like she set the whole thing up out of vindictiveness.

It was one of those 'stealth' piles of steaming feminist bullshit. Dockery's character supposedly was pseudo raped years earlier by said MP during Oxford years in a highly improbable scenario, and now, feelzing traumas, prosecutes him after the fact years later through another proxy fake rape. Her character is not only acting unlawfully, illegally, and unethically, she herself is conducting an affair with a married man.

The bizarre feminist coup de gras is the MP's wife eventually becoming a co-conspirator with Dockery to bring down her own husband, who is mainly guilty of old boy loyalty and programmed upper class success. Dockery herself is 'justified' in her bizarre revenge against men, even though she is a wreck herself, and may very well have screwed the guy earlier consensually because she was jealous of her friend.

It has a few of the usual ethnic shoehorned roles, but the story was completely twisted by the insane 'feminist logic' that we now know and love as symptomatic insanity writ large on the background of drama. My own conclusion was it was a great sales job of why women should never be put into positions of high responsibility.

By the way, my wife agreed wholeheartedly and thought it was an abysmal representation of feminist baloney and a sad vitiation of the 'real' serious issue of rape. An average show of 'Law and Order Special Victims' does a better job.
17   WookieMan   2022 Apr 20, 11:18am  

I've been talking with a few people lately about subscriptions. I think with the inflation people are going through their frivolous monthly subscriptions they have. I cut $150/mo roughly just last week. You have to remember that probably 20-30% of Netflix customers don't remember they're even subscribed to it. Especially upper middle class. Content aside, it's a nominal monthly fee.

So a huge chunk of their revenue comes from people that aren't even watching stuff most of the time. That is their bread and butter business wise. Same with most tech/media/entertainment now. The subscription model screws over people that have too much money and don't care and screws over the poor because a DirectTV subscription is too much for them. So they get Netflix and cut the cable.

Again, content aside, it's a good business model. But, with inflation and wages not rising in step, people are checking for little ways to cut. If you have a family and kids activities, you don't need Netflix. Those people are cutting Netflix. People are "cutting" the streaming now. I don't necessarily think it's about the SJW type content. If filling my Armada up for $70 is now $105, I have to cut something. Entertainment and eating out are usually the easiest to cut to cover inflationary items like oil/gas.

Honestly might start seeing price drops on monthly services like that to retain customers. Not all ships will rise in an inflationary market.
18   Ceffer   2022 Apr 20, 11:29am  

I'm tired of waiting for the 'shoehorn' ethnicity drops, the ghetto brat fucking the white cheerleader drop, the feminist drops, the tranny drops, the lesbian drops, the SJW brittle screed drops, the crude and disgusting 'stealth propaganda' drops etc. every time I cringingly watch a new show hoping for the best.

I laughed because one show had a white couple, and I told my wife, 'Watch, they'll have Mexican children'. Sure enough, two Mexican daughters in some kind of genetic shape shifting popped in. The strange phenom of parents having children of mixed or inappropriate ethnicities is another engine of propaganda.

However, a new stealth paradigm has arisen in which some of the screen writers and producers seem to be putting these insane KommieKunt roles into self parody, and find more clever ways to tell stories around them. I guess things evolve and the parasitic entities eventually breed resistant hosts.
19   Goran_K   2022 Apr 20, 11:40am  

The last Star Wars trilogy pretty much destroyed anything I had for main stream blockbusters. I literally swore off paying money to watch anymore of this woke BS anymore. Admiral Holdo, LOL
20   Shaman   2022 Apr 20, 11:58am  

Goran_K says
The last Star Wars trilogy pretty much destroyed anything I had for main stream blockbusters. I literally swore off paying money to watch anymore of this woke BS anymore. Admiral Holdo, LOL


And that rebel mothership (shaped like female reproductive system) getting relentlessly pounded by the Empire… oh wait that part was kind of amusing.
21   Hircus   2022 Apr 20, 12:05pm  

Undoctored says
Is this just a long term trend reaching a tipping point, or is it a sign of something serious happening suddenly with the subscriber base? Could this be in any way related to that 40% jump in life insurance claims?


Thats a good thought. paedoflix expected growth of 2.5M subs, but ended up losing 200k subs for the quarter, and claim 700k was due to russia, so if we adjust for that, we end up with growth of 0.5M vs expected 2.5M. So a gap of 2M.

I think the us has around 3M deaths per year. That insurance company says 40% increase in, I think, all cause mortality (except covid deaths) of working age people. But I would think most annual deaths come from the older age group, past working age. So their 40% increase is only on a secondary fraction of us deaths, not the typical 3M deatsh per year. If we assume the 40% was for all age groups, then it would be

2.5 * 40% = 1M increase in deaths.

But according to that insurance data, it's probably less than half or a quarter of that due to the difference in age groups etc.

But its part of the loss.
22   richwicks   2022 Apr 20, 12:20pm  

Goran_K says
The last Star Wars trilogy pretty much destroyed anything I had for main stream blockbusters.


I used to be a big film buff. When I hit 35, I quite suddenly discovered I couldn't watch them any more. It was similar with video games.

With films, most films are pretty dumb, filled with plot holes, and that always drove me nuts, so I would search out films that didn't do that - Memento is one of them I really used to enjoy, very clever film with only one plot hole - but modern films, take Star Trek from 2009, it's NOTHING BUT plot holes. It's so distracting that the only enjoyment I can get out of it is how fucked up the film is in terms of plot versus all that work that was put into making the score, and doing the special effects. The film made absolutely no sense at all. Seriously, I wonder if the writers are attempting to make completely non logical plot hole filled trashbusters which are now the majority of films.

I think the last film series I enjoyed was Planet of the Apes. I think that was pretty well done and I think it was done better than the original.

I liked District 9 although THAT can be seen as being pretty stupid in many ways, but the race allegory was great. A lot of science fiction USED to take current problems and put them into an entirely different context to allow you to observe the problem from another point of view and District 9 did a great job of that. It's a pity that Neill Blomkamp basically was a one hit wonder director with that. I was once hoping for a sequel, but I used to hope for a sequel to Blade Runner - and I eventually got that.. :(

Better to let a brilliant film stand on its own, and not ruin it with a money grab. Matrix was like that. The first film was brilliant in the allegory IT presented, and the next 2 films just took all that away and the 4th film, it was unwatchable. It's just about impossible to convince somebody "watch the first X of this film series, but STOP after that point, or it will ruin the entire franchise for you" - because they always want to know what was next. Alien is like this, Terminator is like this, Star Trek, Star Wars, Matrix is like this.
23   SunnyvaleCA   2022 Apr 20, 12:50pm  

It's been a long time since Breaking Bad. Better Call Saul mostly sucked except for the one season closely related to the themes of BB. Without exclusive and worthwhile shows, I don't really see the point of Netflix.

For the amount I watch, I'd rather watch the occasional thing on Amazon Prime for free or to pay a few dollars and watch something I really want to see. Amazon seems to have much more content if you're willing to spend a few dollars per movie.
24   Goran_K   2022 Apr 20, 1:47pm  

Shaman says
And that rebel mothership (shaped like female reproductive system) getting relentlessly pounded by the Empire… oh wait that part was kind of amusing.


Battle Hardened, Brilliant tactician, Rebel General



Look at this shit. She looks like she could be an anchor on CNBC, or she throws fundraisers for Bernie Sanders. Pink haired, liberal white woman's dream.
25   Booger   2022 Apr 20, 2:05pm  

Fuck Netflix.
26   richwicks   2022 Apr 20, 2:27pm  

Goran_K says
Look at this shit. She looks like she could be an anchor on CNBC, or she throws fundraisers for Bernie Sanders. Pink haired, liberal white woman's dream.


That kind of annoys me too. Looks like it takes her an hour to take a bubble bath, put on her makeup, do her hair, pick out her outfit (maybe trying on 2 or 3) and then go back to work being a major leader in a war.
27   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 20, 2:32pm  

I'm tired of faggoty Superheroes.

I prefer Action heroes.

Action heroes get tough or are toughened by rough experience to get revenge/get the bad guy. They're human and have to work to accomplish a goal, an inspiring, manly message.

Superheroes get exposed to Unobtainium or Radiation or Are Born This Way like Lady Gaga, and don't do shit for their super powers, it's a form of infantile omnipotence fantasy.
28   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Apr 20, 2:41pm  

Goran_K says
The last Star Wars trilogy pretty much destroyed anything I had for main stream blockbusters. I literally swore off paying money to watch anymore of this woke BS anymore. Admiral Holdo, LOL


I feel the need to remind everyone of Mon Mothma who appeared as a leader in Return of the Jedi. Although her hair was of natural color.
29   fdhfoiehfeoi   2022 Apr 20, 2:42pm  

AmericanKulak says
I'm tired of faggoty Superheroes.

I prefer Action heroes.

Action heroes get tough or are toughened by rough experience to get revenge/get the bad guy. They're human and have to work to accomplish a goal, an inspiring, manly message.

Superheroes get exposed to Unobtainium or Radiation or Are Born This Way like Lady Gaga, and don't do shit for their super powers, it's a form of infantile omnipotence fantasy.


So which is Batman..?
30   Shaman   2022 Apr 20, 3:05pm  

Batman is very obviously an action hero. The only powers he was born with was wealth and the only ones he gained were strength and skill.
31   RC2006   2022 Apr 20, 3:07pm  

Tranny in every new show, check
Black playing white roles(king Arthur), check
Gay characters in children's cartoons, check

Not surprised Netflix is tanking, check
32   Goran_K   2022 Apr 20, 3:30pm  

NuttBoxer says
I feel the need to remind everyone of Mon Mothma who appeared as a leader in Return of the Jedi. Although her hair was of natural color.


Mothma and Holdo are literally NOTHING alike. Mothma has a far more natural and believable back story.

Mothma - Former SENATOR of Chandrila during the time of the Galatic Republic. Yes she wears a white dress, with her natural hair, but that's because she was formerly a senator of the republic, and only became a rebel leader when Palpatine took over and it was obvious he was going to be tyrannical. So her look, attitude, and dress is believable because that's probably what she would have worn and acted like as a senator in the republic.

Holdo - As a child she hung out with teenage Leia. They developed a friendship, with some semi-lesbian undertones that were never explored. She is supposedly force sensitive, and once Palpatine takes over she disappears for 30 years until the most recent trilogy where now she's a battle hardened general, who is supposedly a brilliant tactician who has lead the rebels to many victories.

Holdo's backstory makes ZERO sense. It's basically some force fed woke BS to create a "hero" relatable to woke LGBTQ millennials.
33   Tenpoundbass   2022 Apr 20, 6:17pm  

I primarily watch Youtube videos, of normal people doing normal shit. Fabricators, Off road vehicle recovery, crazy Russian auto mechanic that experiments with crazy ideas, Japanese Guitar teacher giving Blues in Minor triad and arpeggio scales. Oddly enough the videos I watch don't have one single commercial.
I also like watching the movie recap videos there's a few I like more than others. I like the 8 to 20 minute synopsis about the movies. I feel like by not hearing the dialog, I could still watch the movie if I thought it was interesting enough. I've seen a few I'll like to watch.
Though it's amazing how many have woke or gay shit overtones, which the narrator really makes it seem all the more crass, even if I can't tell if the narrator subscribes to the politics or not. They do call it out when woke shit is at work in the plots or story.

I don't have an account with Youtube, I don't hit the like and smash the subscribe. And what I watch is so varied YouTube doesn't know what to do with me. One thing for sure, they never show me the latest Pop star or celebrity gossip videos in the feed.
34   clambo   2022 Apr 20, 8:00pm  

Re: YouTube videos.
I’m lately enjoying ones by a young mad scientist type: tyropyro

I give him 2 thumbs up.
35   RWSGFY   2022 Apr 20, 8:04pm  

Nooooooooooo!
36   Eman   2022 Apr 20, 9:04pm  

When one of the big investors took a $400M loss and bailed on NFLX, there’s no reason anyone should stay in the stock. There’s a high probability it’s going to go lower.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ackmans-pershing-square-sells-netflix-224251956.html?source=patrick.net
40   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2022 Jun 1, 10:21am  

its called WOKEFLIX
41   WookieMan   2022 Jun 1, 10:43am  

Tenpoundbass says
I primarily watch Youtube videos, of normal people doing normal shit. Fabricators

10#. Look up Mike Patey if you're into aviation. His Draco and Scrappy builds are fucking nuts. He's probably close to a billionaire out in Utah. Simple videos, not flashy, but the work he does is fucking amazing even if you don't fly or build planes. He's the type of guy if you could be reborn he'd be your Dad if you had a choice.

He's also got world speed records for building single prop aircraft. He didn't record those builds in detail though as far as I know. But if you're into fabrication and building you'll binge watch his shit for hours and days. His kids help, but it's usually just him and this felon that hit bad times he helped out and got him work.

More aviation, but Trent Palmer's channel is decent. He does drone cinematography but flies a bush plane. His camera work and filming are pretty amazing, but I'm indifferent on his personality as he's somewhat close to my age. But if the mountain west is something you like he has some cool videos. There are some duds in there though, so maybe watch a couple if you're not digging it. Start with something in like 2020 or before covid hit, but not too early. Can't remember was year he started.

Sorry, I like aviation. Might pull the trigger and get the license and partner with a friend on a plane. His wife is going for hers so might see if we can share time and get the license training costs down. I've got the time and the 40 hour bare minimum I could knock out in 2 months easy. If it takes 80 whatever. I'm a fucking expensive human... lol. If I were to die doing something, flying would be it as long as it was instant. Drowning or fire would be the worst.
42   Hircus   2022 Jun 1, 11:16am  

WookieMan says
Sorry, I like aviation. Might pull the trigger and get the license


I've thought about maybe getting a pilot's license one day too. But more immediately, I'm really thinking of trying paramotoring. It looks so fun and the open air flying really appeals to me. So many youtubers post videos of them flying over the countryside, hills, desert etc... and it looks so free and fun. Not to mention it doesnt look very expensive. I need to look into the safety of it more though. I'm sure its nowhere near as safe as airplanes, but hopefully its not too bad if one is diligent about safety.

Any thoughts on it?
43   Patrick   2022 Jun 1, 12:00pm  

@Hircus There are a lot of paragliders in the Bay Area, since there are good cliffs for it. No motor, just a big wing. They step off the cliff and just sail around. Amazing to behold, but I get slightly ill just watching them.
44   Rin   2022 Jun 1, 12:21pm  

richwicks says
It's just about impossible to convince somebody "watch the first X of this film series, but STOP after that point, or it will ruin the entire franchise for you" - because they always want to know what was next.


Actually, nowadays, that's less true than before.

After seeing 'The Expanse' seasons 1 to 3, I was all excited for season 4 but realized quickly on that the show lost its shine, making James Holden more useless than useful, and the best character of season 3, the antihero turned hero (& leader of the crew by the portal) Klaes Ashford, was killed for no purpose other than to show that there were some new terrorists in town, I mean space. What a waste!

And then the 'bad guy' of season 4, Adolphus Murtry, was just an unsympathetic dickhead. The fact that Amos didn't kill him in an instant was because he's pussywhipped by James Holden's idiotic pacifism (at all the wrong times). The Amos from prior seasons would have disposed of that trash heap in a heartbeat.

So in effect, the Expanse was over and I didn't watch any further. Others have followed suit and for a slew of viewers, the show was seasons 1 to 3, the best Sci-Fi space opera for the 2010s.

Seasons 4 to 6 were promptly forgotten & many just read the synopsis to get the gist of the completion.
45   Hircus   2022 Jun 1, 12:23pm  

Patrick says
@Hircus There are a lot of paragliders in the Bay Area, since there are good cliffs for it. No motor, just a big wing. They step off the cliff and just sail around. Amazing to behold, but I get slightly ill just watching them.

I'll have to go watch them in person sometime.

I watched a paramotoring video and the guy said those who have experience paragliding make better pilots for paramotoring due to being familiar with air currents / thermals etc... since that stuff is so critical to gliders, but paramotor pilots don't need to know so much about it, so very few study up. I'd imagine gliding is more dangerous - having a motor pushing you forward probably helps a lot to reduce the chance of a stall and to keep you in control. But I've seen videos of paramotor noobs who try to turn too sharply, and end up losing too much speed and lift, and they go from what looks like a safe controlled cruise to dropping 30-50ft onto the ground in 2 seconds, so I think the motor is certainly no panacea.
46   WookieMan   2022 Jun 1, 2:18pm  

Hircus says

WookieMan says
Sorry, I like aviation. Might pull the trigger and get the license


I've thought about maybe getting a pilot's license one day too. But more immediately, I'm really thinking of trying paramotoring. It looks so fun and the open air flying really appeals to me. So many youtubers post videos of them flying over the countryside, hills, desert etc... and it looks so free and fun. Not to mention it doesnt look very expensive. I need to look into the safety of it more though. I'm sure its nowhere near as safe as airplanes, but hopefully its not too bad if one is diligent about safety.

Any thoughts on it?

Don't quote me on this but I believe paramotoring does not require an FAA license if you stay below a certain altitude. So you could buy or even borrow equipment today and be in the air. So that's appealing for sure if I'm correct and I think our user Headset could correct me on that. I only got an FAA license to fly a drone to receive payment commercially.

I want the license for speed and I enjoyed it the few times I've been in control of an aircraft. My wife's territory is all of Wisconsin and Illinois. I could get to any part of the state(s) in a Cessna 172 in about 2-3 hours from what would be our home airport depending on wind. The tip of WI is a 6-7 hour drive one way. Once at cruising altitude autopilot, check gauges and ATC communications. Much better than actively driving for 6-7 hours.

I don't have this kind of cash without a partner involved, but I'd like a Diamond DA50. 181kts sipping 9 gallons per hour of JetA fuel. I have 3 kids, so the 3 seats in the rear would be awesome or for clients. 850 mile range from the midwest. So Panhandle of FL, New York, Denver might be a stretch but close. I don't like the retractable gear as it's one more maintenance item, but you save time gaining speed. Also tax write off as a business expense of $1.2-1.4M for purchase and then write the maintenance and fuel expenses off as well. https://www.diamondaircraft.com/en/private-owners/aircraft/da50/overview/

I'd be able to get to most places I'd like to in under 2 hours from Chicagoland. Obviously not West Coast, but Nashville would be 1 hour 45 minutes. My airport is 10 minutes drive, towered and relatively low traffic outside of training. Supposedly one of the top FBO's in the nation, I've only been twice. Huge runway (6,500ft) if I'm a retard.

Jesus, novel over. I want an airplane.
47   EBGuy   2022 Jun 1, 2:26pm  

On a positive note, watched a comedy special on Netflix last night that made fun of the woke. That said, the comedian who made the special will not be doing any more shows...ever. Sniff...
48   HeadSet   2022 Jun 1, 4:29pm  

WookieMan says
Headset could correct me on that.

Sorry, I do not know anything about paramotors or drones, I have only flown regular planes. Even then, I last flew in the 90s and that was a Cessna 172.

WookieMan says
181kts sipping 9 gallons per hour of JetA fuel.

A recip engine that burns JetA sounds like it is a diesel, as a turboprop would burn more like 30-40 gallons per hour.

Sounds like a nice ride. Odd that you are worried the complexity of retractable gear, since a plane like that is likely to have an oxygen system as well.

WookieMan says
Once at cruising altitude autopilot, check gauges and ATC communications.

Do not forget you got to land, and often in IFR conditions. I presume you would get your Instrument Rating if you will be flying for business.

Let us know if you if get that plane.
49   Patrick   2022 Jun 1, 4:34pm  

Hircus says
I'll have to go watch them in person sometime.


@Hircus This is one place I've seen them doing it, north of Pacifica:

https://www.paragliding-lessons.com/mrsg/

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