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Because my fucking nation just blew 40 billion dollars on it, and it's NOT EVEN GOING TO HELP the Ukrainians. It's just fucking money being laundered by a criminal fucking syndicate.
It's harming this nation.
How has ANY US foreign policy in the last 25 FUCKING years been a benefit to the United States and it's people?
That's why I care about it. DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. This is DIRECLTY harming this nation
NONE OF OUR FUCKING WARS HAS BENEFITTED THE UNITED STATES IN ANY CONCEIVABLE WAY.
Keep what? That isn't a Treaty.
Because the globalist ratbastards in DC think the opposite. And that involves my taxes.
Bd6r says
Memorandum, security assurances, etc. If they don't intend to abide by it then don't sign it.
Bullshit. They intended to not even use it to wipe their asses like a sheet of toilet paper. It was horseshit to get the Ukranians to spread their legs, is all.
Dude seducing a dumb girl: "Don't worry, I'll pull out..."
Then argue against providing money for foreign wars without making judgement about what happens in those countries engaged in war.
Unfortunately your factual knowledge about those countries is quite minimal so you have to retort to whataboutism.
BTW I have never advocated for US involvement in Ukraine, it is a European problem. However, from standpoint of fairness I hope that aggressor, that is Russia with its botoxed leader, will lose the war and will be dismembered so that they can not attack anyone any more.
The US PURPOSELY caused this war,
You know damned well Obama and George W. Bush would have done the same exact thing.
richwicks says
You know damned well Obama and George W. Bush would have done the same exact thing.
Yes, but that's irrelevant. Them being faggots doesn't make Biden any less of a faggot.
Now you are making a judgement which you are not qualified to make, again.
The United States and Britain have been fucking with Russia for years now.
Ever since the US overthrew Ukraine, Russia has been plain and very clear about consequences and their security concerns.
Russia has been invaded through Ukraine twice. They'll destroy it, and kill every Ukrainian before they allow that again.
richwicks says
The United States and Britain have been fucking with Russia for years now.
And Russia has been fucking with Ukraine as well&
and Russian invasion plans were apparently ready long before any government changes in Ukraine.
Latter means that US fucking or not fucking with Russia has little relevance to Russian invasion.
Russian air-defense troops just shot down one of the most sophisticated warplanes involved in Russia’s wider war in Ukraine.
One problem. It was a Russian warplane. A brand-new Sukhoi Su-34M fighter-bomber.
Russian propagandist Yevgeny Poddubny apparently captured on video the Sunday shoot-down over the city of Alchevsk in Russian-occupied eastern Ukraine. “Last night, the air-defense crew of the allied forces destroyed a target in the sky over Alchevsk,” Poddubny wrote Monday. “The nature of the target is not clear. The burning ball fell to the ground for more than a minute.”
A video of the wreckage confirmed the plane’s identity: it’s an Su-34M with the registry RF-95890, one of just 10 or so Su-34Ms that Sukhoi so far has delivered to the Russian air force.""
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/07/18/the-russians-just-shot-down-one-of-their-own-best-jets/?sh=4ca15c5239c8
""Russian air defense fires at HIMARS missiles, downs Russian aviation flagship - Russian media
The Russian Su-34 M is likely to have been shot down by a Russian air defense system in the Alchevsk area.
The Russian media reported the news.
"At the time of the destruction of the fighter-bomber, Ukrainian HIMARS surface-to-air missiles were firing at Alchevsk, and the Su-34 ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time in the zone of operation of the Russian air defense system for HIMARS missiles," the Military Informant report says.
The Insider notes that the crew ejected successfully and were evacuated.
The loss of the Russian fighter was recorded by Oryx, one of the most authoritative OSINT resources that collect data on the loss of military equipment during the war in Ukraine.
"Russian air defense mistakenly shot down its own Su-34 near Alchevsk, Luhansk region," the experts said in a report.
The Insider believes that the video with fragments of the crashed plane shows a rare Su-34M (M stands for 'modernized' - we are talking about a sample with an updated electronic system, high-precision weapons systems and a set of several hanging containers with intelligence equipment) with the aircraft number RF-95890 from the 277th Bombardment Aviation Regiment of the 303rd Mixed Aviation Division of the 11th Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Eastern Military District.
Looks like the panic over HIMARS has settled in
Lavrov's tears are salty.
Eric Holder says
Lavrov's tears are salty.
What tears?
This just gave Russia an excuse to PERMANENTLY take more land.
Look, our media has lied about everything for 20 years. It's lied about EVERY war we've been in. It's lie about Russian Collusion, it's lie about Russia hacking our election, it's lying about Biden being elected.
Now it's lying about Ukraine. They ONLY lie. I don't know why they EXCLUSIVELY lie, but they do.
"Russian air defense mistakenly shot down its own Su-34 near Alchevsk, Luhansk region," the experts said in a report.
"Russian air defense mistakenly shot down its own Su-34 near Alchevsk, Luhansk region," the experts said in a report.
richwicks says
"Russian air defense mistakenly shot down its own Su-34 near Alchevsk, Luhansk region," the experts said in a report.
They shot down more than one in friendly fire. The trigger on the air defenses was set to overly twitchy.
Remember the first gulf war - Operation Desert Storm? If you recall, it was claimed the Patriot Missiles were a GREAT success, having shot down all the SCUD missiles from Iraq. Well, 10 years later, it turns out, they didn't shoot down one, although they effected trajectories.
And what's the source for this?
The US overthrew Ukraine,
richwicks says
And what's the source for this?
Video with Dzohar Dudaev which I provided for you above. As far as I know he has never been in US government.
richwicks says
The US overthrew Ukraine,
Irrelevant to war, which was planned way before Ukr Gov't was overthrown. You are ignoring video which I provided above, by a former Soviet Major-General. I suppose this is because it goes against your ideological beliefs.
You'll have to repost that.
Irrelevant to war, which was planned way before Ukr Gov't was overthrown. You are ignoring video which I provided above, by a former Soviet Major-General. I suppose this is because it goes against your ideological beliefs.
there was peace and pro russian president prior to that insurrection and coup
FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says
there was peace and pro russian president prior to that insurrection and coup
2003 Tuzla island conflict
its whole reason for the war
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In an interview with state news agency RIA Novosti, Lavrov said geographical realities had changed since Russian and Ukrainian negotiators held peace talks in Turkey in late March that failed to produce any breakthrough.
At that time, he said, the focus was on the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR), self-styled breakaway entities in eastern Ukraine from which Russia has said it aims to drive out Ukrainian government forces.
"Now the geography is different, it's far from being just the DPR and LPR, it's also Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions and a number of other territories," he said, referring to territories well beyond the Donbas that Russian forces have wholly or partly seized.
"This process is continuing logically and persistently," he said, adding that Russia might need to push even deeper.
If the West, out of "impotent rage" or desire to aggravate the situation further, kept pumping Ukraine with long-range weapons such as the U.S.-made High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), "that means the geographical tasks will extend still further from the current line", Lavrov said.
Russia could not allow Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy "or whoever replaces him" to threaten its territory or that of the DPR and LPR with the longer-range systems, he said - referring casually, and without any evidence, to the possibility that the Ukrainian leader might not remain in power.
The foreign minister is the most senior figure to speak openly of Russia's war goals in territorial terms, nearly five months after President Vladimir Putin launched his invasion with a denial that Russia intended to occupy its neighbour.
https://news.yahoo.com/lavrov-says-russias-objectives-ukraine-110226193.html