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Eric Holder says

LOL

The best proof it was Pukin who dunnit is that they still have not started any repair work

Ot they could have just turned off the tap at the source instead of destroying their own infrastructure that even if they fixed it could trivially be bombed again, the THEM, according to your "logic".

I have a difficult time believing people like you are actually serious, and aren't just so fucking arrogant that you believe other people are so fucking stupid that they would take what you just said seriously.

Are you really so self unaware that you actually believe what you wrote, or do you think the average person is so fucking stupid, that you expect to be believed when you lie?

It’s now all but confirmed that Biden gave the order to blow it up using explosives planted in June 2022.

https://www.newsweek.com/did-joe-biden-attack-russias-nord-stream-pipelines-1779948

Eric Holder says

The best proof it was Pukin who dunnit is that they still have not started any repair work. They wanted it down to "freeze Europe" and not pay for non-fullfillment of their contracts.

Russia blows up their own pipeline that took them years to build and cost them $50+ Billion in order to "freeze Europe" which they could have done by simply shutting off the supply valve. Got it.

Shaman says

It’s now all but confirmed that Biden gave the order to blow it up using explosives planted in June 2022.

https://www.newsweek.com/did-joe-biden-attack-russias-nord-stream-pipelines-1779948

Hersh has been wrong before, but I find it very unlikely that Russia blew up their own pipeline that cost 10's of billions to build over more than a decade.

It's very likely either the US did it or the British did it, with a US go-ahead. This is the most logical conclusion that I can come to.


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Given my government's willingness to lie, and our corporate press willingness to lie, it's logical to conclude (I think!) that Western powers did this, since it advantages the United States, disadvantages Russia, and will prolong the Ukrainian war. In my experience, the US always wants to prolong war, not to end them, even when there is no strategic advantage to the United States.

I am strongly in the opinion that the United States is being run by a bunch of psychopaths who cannot be reasoned with.

Hersch speaks for himself:

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

Who benefitted from blowing up the pipelines? Answer: the good old USA's energy suppliers. Imagine the kickback to the politicians that supported this, especially the Biden Family Crime Syndicate.

Who had the means? USA is at the top of the list with Great Britain a distant second. Few nations in the world has the ability to pull off such a sophisticated operation without detection.

Who had the opportunity? The USA has all the necessary military hardware and special ops personnel within a short distance from where the crime occured.

This was a very bold and reckless act that easily could have started WW III. It still may lead to that. And for what? The defense of one of the most corrupt nations on earth.

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1623723392590311424?ref_src=patrick.net

Biden: “We will end Nordstream 2”

Nordstream 2: gets blown up

DailyMail: “we have exclusive report showing Biden blew up Nordstream”

People: Pretty sure Biden blew up Nordstream

Media: “Putin puppets saying Biden blew up Nordstream”

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/a-star-is-born/

A sane person in a sane world would call sabotaging the Nord Stream pipelines an act-of-war against a friendly nation, since the result was to virtually destroy the basis of Germany’s industry, not to mention the domestic comfort of German citizens. Now, thanks to 85-year-old Seymour Hersh, the independent investigator who uncovered the My Lai Massacre in 1969 and reported on the depraved antics of American jailers at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq in 2004, we have a pretty good idea how the Nord Stream caper went down.

For a year before the op, “Joe Biden” and Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland — architect of the 2014 Maidan Coup in Ukraine, which kicked-off the present fiasco there — blabbed about “ending” the Nord Streams. Curiously, the Germans said nothing. Meanwhile, the US made a deal to beef up military bases in Norway, an original NATO signatory (1949), for staging the Nord Stream sabotage op. Of course, Norway, being Western Europe’s remaining sole oil-and-gas exporter, had an interest in eliminating its competition.

In June of 2022, under cover of an annual NATO naval exercise in the Baltic Sea, US Navy divers attached mines to the Nord Stream pipelines. The mines had triggers that could be activated remotely at any time of choosing, and that moment came on September 26… kaboom. Ms. Nuland and Secretary of State Antony Blinken gloated publicly. Naturally, the US blamed Russia. America’s news media — catamite of the Intel Community — amplified the charge, despite the absurdity of Russia blowing up its most lucrative source of export revenue. The New York Times has so far made no mention of Mr. Hersh’s recent update of the Nord Stream sabotage.

Germany, too, hardly made a peep, nor did the rest of Western Europe, which now faces a future that looks, energy-wise, like a return to the Fourteenth Century. Maybe they’re all jaded with modern life, all that tiresome bathing and malingering in the brightly-lit cafes. Under the sagacious guidance of the WEF they were all going “green,” anyway — but was that green like the heart-shaped leaves of the linden tree or green like the moldy veins in Roquefort cheese? I guess they’ll find out.

Luckily, America had the Chinese balloon to distract them, and then “Joe B’s” State-of-the-Union extravaganza where the nation learned that we are living in the most extraordinary economic boom since the days of Babe Ruth and Charlie Chaplin.

This is not even debatable at this point. Hersh broke My Lai, back when reporters actually did their job. He's got credibility those of you nay-saying on here will never have.

How bad does this Ukraine shit have to blow up in your faces before you'll admit you were scammed by the US MIC? Died suddenly bad?

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1972/01/22/coverup

https://slaynews.com/news/china-responds-nord-stream-attack-report-us-explain-itself-world/

Russia is outraged over the report, with one top Russian official declaring that Democrat President Joe Biden “is a terrorist who must be brought to justice.”

China has responded that demanding that the United States “explain itself to the world” if the revelations in Hersh’s report are true.

The Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist published an article this week in which he asserted that the pipelines were destroyed by the US as part of a covert operation.

According to Hersh’s sources, the explosives were planted in June 2022 by US Navy divers under the guise of the BALTOPS 22 NATO exercise.

He alleges that the explosives were detonated three months later with a remote signal sent by a sonar buoy.

Biden is so senile he could not keep his mouth shut about the US explosives which were already in place.

Meanwhile, in Germany, the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party is also calling for a full inquiry.

“The Pulitzer Prize winner’s suspicions must be investigated,” wrote co-chairman of the AfD parliamentary group, Tino Chrupalla.

“Has NATO’s leading power carried out an attack on our country’s vital critical infrastructure in European waters?

“Then one would have to question whether the alliance guarantees security in Europe or rather endangers it.

“The consequence would be the withdrawal of all U.S. troops.”

That would be wonderful. The US should not have troops in Europe at all. Europe should defend Europe.

Patrick says

That would be wonderful. The US should not have troops in Europe at all. Europe should defend Europe.

We are seeing some more support from Germany to Ukraine, such as they are sending 178 tanks. And I read the United Kingdom is likely to give fighter aircraft to Ukraine.

I believe for US federal budget years 2022 and 2023, there was about $50 billion each provided to Ukraine in total aid.
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How come New York Times hasn't come out with an article stating that released natural gas is good for the environment?

https://howtosurvivetheapocalypse.substack.com/p/heres-why-the-new-world-order-is

But of course you already knew that. The idea that Russia did it was laughable; not just because ‘Russia did it!’ is the default setting of any American official being caught doing anything at all, like an adolescent blaming every naughty move on his younger brother, but because the maths didn’t add up. Why would Russia blow up a pipeline that they’d spent 15 years and $20 billion building, when they could just turn it off? ‘Russia did it’ was always a stupid answer. ...

Meanwhile, while blowing up Nord Stream may have been an effective way to stop Germany from going soft on Russian sanctions, it’s also likely to make it impossible for the Germans to keep their lights on long term, which can only foment unrest within Europe; an outcome that Biden didn’t consider because he simply didn’t care about anything other than his own objectives.

https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe

When first reading through Hersh’s account of the events, the level of detail he provides could add credence to his story. Unfortunately for Hersh’s story, the high level of detail is also where the entire story begins to unravel and fall apart. It is often stated that people who lie have a tendency to add too much superfluous detail to their accounts. This attempt to “cover all bases” is in many cases what trips these people up. Extra details add extra points of reference that can be crosschecked and examined. In Hersh’s case, this is exactly what appears to have happened. On the surface level, the level of detail checks out to laymen or people without more niche knowledge of the subject matter mentioned. When you look closer though, the entire story begins to show massive glaring holes and specific details can be debunked.

BTW, wasn't Hirsh the guy who back in the day was jumping out of his britches trying to persuade everybody that Oswald was a "lone wolf"?

RWSGFY says

https://oalexanderdk.substack.com/p/blowing-holes-in-seymour-hershs-pipe

When first reading through Hersh’s account of the events, the level of detail he provides could add credence to his story. Unfortunately for Hersh’s story, the high level of detail is also where the entire story begins to unravel and fall apart. It is often stated that people who lie have a tendency to add too much superfluous detail to their accounts. This attempt to “cover all bases” is in many cases what trips these people up. Extra details add extra points of reference that can be crosschecked and examined. In Hersh’s case, this is exactly what appears to have happened. On the surface level, the level of detail checks out to laymen or people without more niche knowledge of the subject matter mentioned. When you look closer though, the entire story begins to...

Well well well, look at Oliver Alexander go on and on and on adding all these details to explain, supposedly, how people add superfluous details when they are trying to pass off a lie which you are accusing Hersh of doing.

I'll be direct - point out what Hersh was incorrect about, by quoting him.

We really don't need Hersh to tell us that the US blew up Russia's and Germany's pipeline anyhow. It's in the category of "yeah, duh".

Can't wait for that expose from some other famous journalist that will expose that we really weren't in a pandemic, and it was just a bunch of lies. Until I hear it from an "authoritative source", I mean, how could I possibly come to the obvious conclusion myself?

Throw the baby out with the bathwater right, cuz you and me, we've never made a wrong call before...

As with the Pfizer video, Hersh's account just confirm what many other sources have already led us to believe.

https://slaynews.com/news/edward-snowden-ufo-hysteria-engineered-distraction-nord-stream-pipeline-bombshell/

Edward Snowden: UFO Hysteria an ‘Engineered’ Distraction from Nord Stream Pipeline Bombshell

Exiled NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has accused Democrat President Joe Biden’s administration of orchestrating “engineered panic” by using recent reports of UFOs as a distraction.

Snowden was responding to the U.S. military shooting down four “unidentified objects” from the skies above North America in recent days.

According to Snowden, however, the hysteria surrounding the UFOs was “engineered” as a distraction from the recent bombshell report from renowned investigative journalist Seymour Hersh on the destruction of Nord Stream pipelines last fall.

According to Hersh’s bombshell report, the Biden admin orders the U.S. Navy to destroy the pipelines with underwater explosives.

Amid the backlash over the report, many have argued that the move, if true, would be an “act of war.”

cisTits says

https://doomberg.substack.com/p/lets-see-more

this is what it was and still is : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

now the fbi does cointelpro against the democrat party's political targets

and the mainstream media either ignores this or indirectly supports and praises this

.

ad says

this is what it was and still is : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Thanks, interesting.

COINTELPRO (syllabic abbreviation derived from Counter Intelligence Program; 1956–1971) was a series of covert and illegal[1][2] projects actively conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting domestic American political organizations.[3][4] FBI records show COINTELPRO resources targeted groups and individuals the FBI deemed subversive,[5] including feminist organizations,[6][7] the Communist Party USA,[8] anti–Vietnam War organizers, activists of the civil rights and Black power movements (e.g. Martin Luther King Jr., the Nation of Islam, and the Black Panther Party), environmentalist and animal rights organizations, the American Indian Movement (AIM)...

One of the most objective people I get news from Ryan Cristian(thelastamericanvagabond.com) mentioned Hersh in one of his recent daily shows as an example of good reporting.

Credibility continues to build for Hersh, and fade for all anti-Russian haters(if they were Ukraine supporters, they would support ending the war). Again, to illustrate, I think the Chinese government is evil, but I would never be against the Chinese people it oppresses. Hate the governments, love the people.

NuttBoxer says

One of the most objective people I get news from Ryan Cristian(thelastamericanvagabond.com)

That's his name.

Try Ryan Dawson as well: https://www.ancreport.com/ - here's some podcasts, https://www.ancreport.com/category/podcast/

The 4 Horsemen are fun: https://www.ancreport.com/episode-278-four-horsemen-21-with-patrick-macfarlane/ when he does them. Basically, that's a less serious show. Dawson is pretty under-rated in my opinion.

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/nord-stream-update-in-lengthy-interview?publication_id=268621&post_id=103054107&isFreemail=true

In lengthy interview with the Berliner Zeitung, Seymour Hersh offers more intriguing details about his source's account of the attack ...

The biggest development is an interview that Hersh gave to the Berliner Zeitung. It was published yesterday and contains many new details. For example, Hersh tells his interviewer that the plan was to detonate “eight bombs … near the island of Bornholm in the Baltic sea,” of which only “six…went off.” This is the first confirmation we’ve had anywhere of an obvious point, namely that the operation wasn’t fully successful, and that this is the only reason that Pipe B of Nord Stream 2 escaped intact. He’s also more explicit on the involvement of Denmark and Sweden, saying “I was told that they did what they did [to facilitate the planting of explosives] and they knew what they were doing and they understood what was going on, but maybe nobody ever said ‘yes.’” ...

Joe Biden decided not to blow them up back in June, it was five months into the war. But in September he ordered it done. The operational staff, the people who do “kinetic” things for the United States, they do what the president says, and they initially thought this was a useful weapon he could use in negotiations. But at some point, after the Russians invaded and then when the operation was completed, the whole thing became increasingly repugnant to the people who were doing it. These were people who worked in top positions in the intelligence services and were well trained. They turned against the project, they thought it was crazy.

Shortly after the attack, after they had done what they were ordered to do, there was a lot of anger about the operation and repudiation among those involved. That’s one of the reasons I learned so much. And I’ll tell you something else. The people in America and Europe who build pipelines know what happened. I’ll tell you something important. The people who own companies that build pipelines all know the story. I didn’t get the story from them, but I quickly learned that they know.

Can't start WWIII without breaking a few eggs for the Rockefellers.

https://vidmaxviral.com/video/217484-eu-parliament-member-demands-terrorist-biden-must-be-held-accountable-for-attacking-the-nord-stream-pipeline

EU Parliament Member DEMANDS 'Terrorist' Biden must be Held Accountable for Attacking the Nord Stream Pipeline

Irish MEP Mick Wallace has accused the European Union (EU) of ignoring the United States' involvement in the explosions on the Nord Stream pipeline. In an interview with RTÉ Radio One, Wallace stated that "there is a great deal of hypocrisy in the EU's response to the Nord Stream explosions," and that the EU had "totally ignored the fact that the United States had a role in the explosions." He went on to criticize the EU for its lack of transparency, saying that "the EU is not a transparent organization, and it does not act in the interests of the people." Wallace also expressed his disappointment with the EU's handling of the situation, stating that "the EU's response to the Nord Stream explosions has been woefully inadequate, and they have failed to take any meaningful action." He called on the EU to "take responsibility for its actions and stop ignoring the involvement of the United States in the explosions." Wallace also expressed his concern over the potential environmental impact of the explosions, stating that "the Nord Stream pipeline is a major source of energy for Europe, and any damage to it could have serious environmental consequences." He called on the EU to "take urgent action to ensure the safety of the pipeline and to investigate the role of the United States in the explosions."

Patrick says

catamite of the Intel Community

Catamite = bottom buttfuck buddy

Besides this, this is colossal future clusterfuck. Great, the US weaponized SWIFT, which is driving countries away from the petrodollar system. Now the US is targeting underwater infrastucture. Hello - what about the intarwebs? I guess now that the US is demolishing pipelines, it's effectively open season on any submarine infrastructure. Back in the 1950's, Eisenhower decided not to shoot down Sputnik, because that satellite set a precedent; namely, that flyovers were not OK, but orbiting satellites were OK.

The west has fucked itself hard without lube, and the fucking will never stop. Welcome to chaos.

stereotomy says

Eisenhower decided not to shoot down Sputnik

How would anyone shoot down a satellite with the technology of circa 1960?

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HeadSet says

stereotomy says

Eisenhower decided not to shoot down Sputnik

How would anyone shoot down a satellite with the technology of circa 1960?

Good point.

That was the whole point of Sputnik, what was so terrifying about it, is that it was unreachable. It didn't take a lot of imagination for the average American to think that Sputnik could have just as easily been a nuclear bomb.

Sputnik was a demonstration of power and the helplessness of the United States if things REALLY came to a head.

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/sy-hersh-biden-admin-blew-up-nord

Sy Hersh: "Biden Admin Blew Up Nord Stream"
Pulitzer Prize winner insists U.S. destroyed Germany's primary energy supply.

On February 8 of this year, Hersh reported on his Substack that the sabotage of the Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 pipelines on September 26, 2022 was ordered by the Biden Administration and carried out by Navy divers. At first glance, Hersh’s report simply confirmed what President Biden unequivocally stated at a Feb. 8, 2022 press conference—that is, “If Russia invades … there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2; we will bring an end to it.”

Nevertheless, the Biden Administration vehemently denied Mr. Hersh’s report. Last week, in response to these denials, Mr. Hersh gave a long interview in which he reaffirmed his claim that the Biden Administration is responsible for destroying Russia’s gas pipeline, which supplied Germany with a vast source of affordable, clean-burning energy. ...

How do the German people feel about an American presidential administration wrecking their industry, high standard of living, and consigning them to paying 400% more to heat their homes?

Patrick says

How do the German people feel about an American presidential administration wrecking their industry, high standard of living, and consigning them to paying 400% more to heat their homes?

I'd guess the same as they felt when Merkel was fucking them with illegals, and her woke agendas.

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/the-cover-up

THE COVER-UP
The Biden Administration continues to conceal its responsibility for the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines

NuttBoxer says

I'd guess the same as they felt when Merkel was fucking them with illegals, and her woke agendas.

Merkel was a Stazi/KGB asset her whole life.

Eric Holder says

NuttBoxer says

I'd guess the same as they felt when Merkel was fucking them with illegals, and her woke agendas.

Merkel was a Stazi/KGB asset her whole life.

Nah, she was CIA for at least a few years. Don't you remember when it was discovered the United States was bugging her phone, and NOTHING happened?

Merkel's total neglect of the Landswehr during her entire Chancellorship is telling.

Eric Holder says

Merkel was a Stazi/KGB asset her whole life.

The problem I have with those terms are they couch all power in Russia. Russia is certainly part of the NWO, but are not the leaders, and never will be. The Europeans who run it are extremely racist, and would never allow anyone of Slavic decent into the inner circle.