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Time for a cool change, out with Budweiser and with the new.


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2023 Apr 7, 8:59am   30,305 views  338 comments

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Across the redneck nation there are calls for a new official beer of Rural America. Butwiper really dropped the ball and screwed the pooch on this one.
I suggest Becks or St Paulie Girl, as both of those are under $12 a 12 pack these days. Where has Butwiper has been pushing the boundaries to how much they could charge for their Cultural Grog. I wouldn't mind seeing Shiner Boc become a huge national brand with a wider distribution than it currently has. Though when I do find it at the Publix here in South Florida, it's around $10.99 or more, for a 6pack. Even Guiness is a dollar cheaper than that on average.

I heard some chime in telling everyone to support their local craft beer brewers. I have never EVER had one single beer from a craft brewer that tasted anything like a old traditional beer recipe. And that's very important to me. I don't want off tastes, and hints of herbs, berries, citrus, or your Xer's vag yeast. Whart ever the fuck they put in there!

The problem I have with local craft beers, they have no respect for the traditional tried and true methods, and just brew a proper Lager, Pilsner, Ale, or Stout. They always have some untraditional ingredients in there, that makes it taste like crap, while they give a cute flavor name, which taste nothing like they suggest. Plus you can factor a good 40% of the cost of their beer goes into their packaging and marketing efforts. They claim they are craft beers, but they are trying like hell to be a major distributor at the expense of not focusing on a product worthy of such hullabaloo. And if I'm at a one more party and there's nothing left in the beer cooler but 9 seltzer fizzy beer, or sour IPAs in the cooler. I'm going loose my mind. Who brings these nasty beers, then proceeds to drink the hosts honest real beers? Nobody likes your soda beer, and IPA leave that crap at home. Who ever is doing that!

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15   pudil   2023 Apr 7, 6:38pm  

People call craft beer fans beer snobs but there’s not much difference in flavor profiles between any of the mass produced lagers. Yet some people insist on bud because it’s what they are used to and they are picky drinkers, aka snobs.

Just substitute a coors, pbr, miller, any Mexican beer and it’s basically the same thing.
16   stfu   2023 Apr 7, 6:48pm  

Growing up it was nothing but Genesee in my area. ( https://www.geneseebeer.com). If you really wanted to push the envelope you could get "Genny 12 horse" and if you wanted to punk somebody you gave them a "Genny cream ale". If you won the lottery you'd be drinking that fancy Labatt's Blue out of Canada.

I don't know what the hell you youngin's are talking about with your IPA this and your Seltzer that.
17   Tenpoundbass   2023 Apr 7, 7:00pm  

Is Anchor Steam Beer still around?
There's an old San Francisco beer, that was resurected, by someone unrelated, and did a pretty damn good job at it. Though I haven't seen any since the start of Covid.
Also Sammy Smith Oatmeal Lager Stout. Mmm Mmm that's a damn good primer, to start the night off. Not the sort of beer you wanna knock back throughout the night. They come in a four pack, they were 24 ounce bottles. But the last time I saw them they were 20 ounce bottles. It's the type of four pack you buy, and split it with a friend. Then go on to drink your other favorite beer.
18   clambo   2023 Apr 7, 7:24pm  

I'm not a big beer drinker, but I too like Anchor Steam.
A beer in Mexico I like is Pacifico.
19   steverbeaver   2023 Apr 7, 7:43pm  

I've never seen Stone featuring a gay gargoyle...
20   AmericanKulak   2023 Apr 7, 7:53pm  

Yuengling is Pro-MAGA and hosted Trump at their HQ. And sadly for CNN, WaPo, Yahoo News, etc. it didn't hurt Yuengling sales at all.
https://money.cnn.com/2016/10/27/news/yuengling-beer-president-donald-trump/index.html

If you brew at home, you can literally buy the grains and malt, big stock pot, glass carbuoy, and a large cooler with a bung in it and you're good to go. You don't need the cooler (as a Mash Tun) for the canned shit.

Haven't done it in a decade, but for newbs I suggest doing the premade malt once or twice and/or make mead, then a couple of partial mashes, then a full mash. I didn't fuck up the partial or full mash the first time I did it. It's easier than it seems, especially if you're not being a snob about it and saying "How would some farmer do this... he'd use his hand, not a specific gravity measure or a thermometer". Concession to old America - toss a couple of ounces of blackstrap molasses in it as Sam Adams himself probably did to get the fermentation going. That and I transfer to a second carbuoy to help filter it out. NO CO2 injectors or any of that cheat shit. Just bottle it up and throw it in the closet for at least 3-4 weeks.

Burton Ales, Dark Ales, Brown Ales, Old Ales... about as traditional as you can get without ditching the hops (yes, really old ales didn't usually have hops asnd "beer" itself once meant ONLY 'ale with hops').

I don't like that Heifferweizelshit with the banana taste, sounds like what you do at a bar at 2AM when your horny and only the fat girl is left. No Wormwood or Cirtus Peels or whatever. MAYBE I'd try adding a little oatmeal or some carmalized sugars to make a Scotch Ale if I got back into it. Just plain fucking brown beer/ale.
21   1337irr   2023 Apr 7, 7:57pm  

Live Oak is pretty good in Texas.
22   Ceffer   2023 Apr 7, 8:00pm  

I don't think i have ever seen an ad campaign, even woke, that has drawn this much derision so quickly and universally. I guess it isn't just go woke go broke, it's don't mess with Uncle Charley's brewski.
23   BayArea   2023 Apr 7, 9:04pm  

Who has a list of woke beers so I can forever avoid them
24   WookieMan   2023 Apr 7, 10:35pm  

clambo says

I'm not a big beer drinker, but I too like Anchor Steam.
A beer in Mexico I like is Pacifico.

I like both.

A random beer probably few have heard of that I love is Amstel Bright (not light). No, not a typo. Got it in Aruba 20 years ago. Dutch/Netherlands beer I believe. Probably the most refreshing warm weather beer I've ever had in my life. I've yet to discover it in any states I've traveled to since.

I've been to Stone in Escondido, CA. That was a cool little setup. Food was too hipster. They did a good job making a warehouse restaurant cozy if that makes sense. Beer was eh. Not bad not good.

Recently had some Kalik in the Bahamas. Presidente in Dominican. "Dominican water." Not the greatest but if a buzz is a goal and it's hot they're semi-refreshing.

Seltzer "beers/waters" can suck my dick. Why? Because they're for gays. There was a reason Zima went away. It's for gays and women. Fun fact, Bozeman, MT is going full Brokeback Mountain. Largest per capita consumers of seltzer drinks, specifically White Claw. The funny part is they don't know it's gay.

Also not a fan of the Twisted Tea trend. That might be gayer then seltzer AIDS.

Not that anyone here is likely to go to Wisconsin soon, but Spotted Cow is solid beer. You can only get it in Wisconsin... the drunkest state in the nation. Private company so not beholden to shareholders, but they could sell a shitload of beer nationally. If you are a beer, non-hipster guy, Wisconsin IS the state you need to visit.

FL is probably the worst beer state I've been to price wise. I'm not shitting you when I say I usually check 60-90 beers on my flights to FL if I'm staying for a week. Save probably $50-80 coming from cheap beer IL and I check bags free, just got to keep them under 50lbs. Never understood the 3oz thing for carry on. I could easily put 1,080oz of incendiary liquid in my checked baggage if I could re-can beers. TSA is retarded.... Just did a wine bottle with vodka on the cruise (not for me).
25   Tenpoundbass   2023 Apr 8, 8:44am  

I think the Micro Breweries squeeze out the homebrew businesses. All of the supply demands on the supplies and ingredients, don't leave much for the home brew market. Save for some Micro Breweries making a kit of their caned malt and supplies to brew their swill at home.

I remember back in the day there were several Home Brew stores around South Florida, now there aren't any. Sometimes a cheesy kit will pop up on the discount rack at Ross. It has a gallon and half plastic ball. Not a real 4 gallon brew vat like you used to get at the home brew store.

As for Florida Beer prices, I go to the corner store on a main road near my house. It's one of those stores that attracts the tales from the hood crowd.(but I don't have any issues with them). They sell 12 pack St P G, and Becks under $12, their other beer brands are over $15 a 12 pack. I asked the guy why are those two beers so cheap. He said his distributor gives them a huge discount on those two brands.
27   WookieMan   2023 Apr 8, 9:50am  

Tenpoundbass says

They sell 12 pack St P G, and Becks under $12, their other beer brands are over $15 a 12 pack. I asked the guy why are those two beers so cheap. He said his distributor gives them a huge discount on those two brands.

That was my point. Prices are insane. That's not cheap. I can get a 30 pack of Busch for $15. That's USVI prices at over $1/beer for what should be cheap beer. They're shipping it to an island for the USVI. FL is mainland. There's no reason it should be that expensive. I assume high taxes with no income taxes and it being the south with vice taxes on booze and smokes.

A 12 pack around $12 is over priced by a long shot here in the midwest.
28   Tenpoundbass   2023 Apr 8, 10:01am  

Oh yeah they rake people over the coals for the big three swill, I don't drink that nasty stuff. Nobody should!
American Beers are the equivalent of McDonald's compared to eating heathy snacks, in regards to our beer vs the beers I'm mentioning in this thread.

Before we started flash fermenting beer with nasty chemicals, the big three were at least tolerable.

I remember when the cheap beers were Schaffer's, Black Label and other brands like that. 6 packs were $1.99. Cheap Canadians used to offer it to the service help after the job was over. I was once offered a beer, and accepted. Only to see the customer reaching in, and giving me a Black Label while he had the other shelves stocked with Bush and Budweiser, keeping them for himself .
30   Shaman   2023 Apr 8, 3:16pm  

Or just quit drinking.
I drank for way too long until I didn’t.
It’s better.
31   GNL   2023 Apr 8, 4:12pm  

1) I recommend a documentary called "How beer saved the world.

2) I wish Anchor Steam was widely available.
34   Booger   2023 Apr 8, 5:06pm  

According to the internet, Yuengling is available nationwide. I can not verify this as it has always been available in my area.
35   Onvacation   2023 Apr 8, 5:10pm  

clambo says

A beer in Mexico I like is Pacifico.

First time I went to Mazatlán with a couple friends for spring break way back in the '80s we rented a jeep at the airport. There was a big sign on the way out of the airport about drinking and driving. Next thing you know we were behind a pickup with a bunch of kids in back, junior high school age max, and they were all drinking beer. To get in some of the clubs you had to buy two drinks, on the way in!

Mazatlan was pretty wild back then, but it felt safe to us. Pacifico was the local beer. Mexico makes good beer.
36   Onvacation   2023 Apr 8, 5:17pm  

WookieMan says

I can get a 30 pack of Busch for $15.

The St. Louis Suitcase. You got to start drinking pretty early to finish one of those.
38   GNL   2023 Apr 8, 6:00pm  

Booger says

According to the internet, Yuengling is available nationwide. I can not verify this as it has always been available in my area.

I've always been able to find it in Northern Virginia. Btw, it's the oldest brewery in America.
39   HeadSet   2023 Apr 8, 7:47pm  

stfu says

Growing up it was nothing but Genesee in my area.

Cream Ale?
40   HeadSet   2023 Apr 8, 7:49pm  

Tenpoundbass says

Across the redneck nation there are calls for a new official beer of Rural America.

I thought that was PBR (Pabst Blue Ribbon). In my opinion, PBR only tastes good when bought local in Minnesota.
41   HeadSet   2023 Apr 8, 7:52pm  

Anyone miss Stroh"s? That beer was awesome until they bought out the Schlitz breweries and rebadged it.
42   clambo   2023 Apr 8, 7:53pm  

"When you're out of beer, tough Schlitz!"
44   mell   2023 Apr 9, 1:07pm  

HeadSet says

Anyone miss Stroh"s? That beer was awesome until they bought out the Schlitz breweries and rebadged it.

Stroh rum is one of the strongest
45   richwicks   2023 Apr 9, 5:11pm  

AmericanKulak says






Man, you can see this guy is going to age very badly. I think he's 27 now, by the time he's 35, he's going to look 50.
46   NuttBoxer   2023 Apr 10, 8:10am  

mell says

Becks is a pretty good German beer. Mostly enjoyed in the north, def worth it.


Paulner Heferweizen is one of my favorite German beers. One of the original Munich brewers.
47   NuttBoxer   2023 Apr 10, 8:13am  

Tenpoundbass says


Is Anchor Steam Beer still around?


Yep, one of the only breweries I know of to survive prohibition.Tenpoundbass says


Sammy Smith Oatmeal Lager Stout.


A stout and lager are two different styles. You don't mean the old England brewery Samuel Smith? Their beers are organic, very old recipe, and still very good.
48   NuttBoxer   2023 Apr 10, 8:20am  

BayArea says

Who has a list of woke beers so I can forever avoid them


I really like Modern Times beer, but stopped buying after I saw BLM shit on the bottom of one of their cans.
49   NuttBoxer   2023 Apr 10, 8:24am  

Tenpoundbass says

I think the Micro Breweries squeeze out the homebrew businesses.


You know all micro-brewers started out as home brewers right? For example, the guys who launched the home brew mart in San Diego, still one of the best stores for home brew supplies, also launched Ballast Point(bought out by a macro-brewery, sad). Same guys are also behind Cutwater spirits.
50   NuttBoxer   2023 Apr 10, 8:27am  

Booger says

According to the internet, Yuengling is available nationwide. I can not verify this as it has always been available in my area.


It is, and technically a macro-brewery due to volume they produce. I think same for Stone, but they've never changed ownership.
51   NuttBoxer   2023 Apr 10, 8:28am  

Onvacation says


Pacifico was the local beer. Mexico makes good beer.


Pacifico is one of the better Mexican beers. Actually founded by Germans though(seriously). Although Mexico does have micro-breweries as well. One of the best Belgium style beers I have had was from Cross Border Psycho, a Tijuana brewery.
52   Onvacation   2023 Apr 10, 2:05pm  

She believes in rainbows and puppy dogs. Launches a desperate campaign to get new drinkers.
53   Onvacation   2023 Apr 10, 2:07pm  

"Evolve and elevate this incredibly iconic brand!'

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