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AmericanKulak says

Imagine being locked in a room with a Vegan...

After enough time, just eat the Vegan.

Here's what I don't understand ...

I love bananas.
I love apples.
I love pomegranates.
I love grapes.
I love cherries.
I also sort of like Kiwis (not New Zealand chicks but the fruit).
I also like plums & apricots.

Now, I also like Cheesesteaks.

So where's the issue with fruits and vegetables?

Here's another pork producer closing an 1800 man operation.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/smithfield-foods-citing-high-costs-of-operating-in-california-to-close-pork-plant-11654950795

Here's another one closing operations in Vernon, and if you look down they are closing operations in Arizona and Utah that supply California.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlxCyCSxm5M

Californians can always substitute other proteins when the price of meat skyrockets because of their politicians.

You can feed way more people with vegetarian food.

Shit load of people are veg n vegan, they do ok, usually lot less Health issue. People have preference n you can't force your diet on others. There are people who eat bugs, n donkey penis for fertility, but they don't force you to eat it.

Chicken n ice cream are great so for me hard to go that way. Can be vegetarian for most most days for health.

Unless you do lot of labor, you can get with little amount of food.

Balance is always the key.
Always.

KgK one says

Chicken n ice cream are great so for me hard to go that way. Can be vegetarian for most most days for health.

I forgot which Indian State it is, but it's mostly Hindu and Vegetarian and they have the highest rate of heart disease in the world.

Fish, Chicken, Goat, and lots of pickled vegetables are the key to health, going by Greek Islanders, Scandinavians, and Japanese and other long lived people.

Any diet that restricts intake of things that are good for your should be eyed with extreme caution. Meat, eggs, butter, if they come from a good source, all have health benefits. The pickier you are, the more variety required to stay healthy.

KgK one says

Shit load of people are veg n vegan, they do ok,

Not without supplementing in most cases. You can go the other way and eat an all meat diet. But again, have to throw in variety. Plants eaten by animals are broken up and sent to different locations. So if you wanna go all meat, then brain, liver, heart, all of it.

I HATE the term 'vegan' and never use it to describe what I eat.

Having said that, changing to a nutritionally rich, plant based diet saved my life 15 years ago. I had a very serious heart condition that traditional medicine gave me 'at best 1-3 years' to live. Obviously, I'm still here, so I'd say it worked!

Most people don't realize how bad the Standard American Diet is, and, how most of our disease is related to what we eat, and drink, along with lifestyle choices. Not only that, many diseases (including heart disease, cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, obesity, etc.) can not only be prevented, but reversed.

If you are interested, this is just one of many that I would recommend to check out:

Dr. Joel Fuhrman

https://www.youtube.com/@drfuhrman/videos

NuttBoxer says

then brain, liver, heart, all of it.

I recommend skipping the brain and anything related to the spinal cord due to prion diseases.

This week I tried fried liver and onions for the first time in my life. It wasn't as bad as I though it was although next time I'm going to cut it into quarters and only eat of of those saving the rest for another time. (Sprouts sells frozen slices)

Apparently you are supposed to soak it in milk for 30-40 mins but I didn't do that. Next time.

I cooked the hell out of too so it was sort of like a pork chop in texture and not all slimy and unfirm like it is before being cooked.

I hear cod liver oil is a good supplement.

https://rumble.com/v2nar9a-may-11-2023.html

Hilarious New Milk Commercial

original link

A bit risqué, especially when she mates with that tree.

HeadSet says

A bit risqué, especially when she mates with that tree.

For her age she lost a step, that's for sure. She had that quirky hotness to her. Haven't seen her in a while. Doesn't look as good as I remember. Looks like a good 10-20lbs pickup.

WookieMan says

HeadSet says

A bit risqué, especially when she mates with that tree.

For her age she lost a step, that's for sure. She had that quirky hotness to her. Haven't seen her in a while. Doesn't look as good as I remember. Looks like a good 10-20lbs pickup.

Still seems on the higher side of yes than no to me…

ForcedTQ says

WookieMan says

HeadSet says

A bit risqué, especially when she mates with that tree.

For her age she lost a step, that's for sure. She had that quirky hotness to her. Haven't seen her in a while. Doesn't look as good as I remember. Looks like a good 10-20lbs pickup.

Still seems on the higher side of yes than no to me…

Wood Milk, hahahahaha, that’s what she said…

ForcedTQ says

Still seems on the higher side of yes than no to me…

I don't know. Looks like she had some work done (cosmetic) or is just getting older or thicker. Not sure. The video is funny and her deadpan humor is as well, she just looks different.

Patrick says

Lol, I just saw a shopping bag with "Half Foods" on it.

I was a vegetarian for 25 years, there is no such thing as a vegan, we MUST consume animal products to survive, either eggs or dairy. Vegans really do not exist.

I was a vegetarian because I grew up in a remote area and I knew animals (not in the biblical sense), and it's just terrible to think they are being created to be killed, however after a point, you realize they are being created at all. Killing an animal is just horrible. I'm not in the area of being separated from it, I am fully aware that when I buy a steak, that's a dead animal killed for my consumption.

It's a pity we can't just live off from sunlight and air.

Got a pet? How good do you feel about killing them? That's kind of how I view a cow or even a chicken. They all have personalities they are clearly not machines, they are clearly individuals with their own personalities, and it seems evil to kill them. They trust you. I might slip into being vegetarianism again. It doesn't make a difference though, but I do not like killing but everything dies. It is really a conundrum. My struggle with morality makes me human. Most people don't have this struggle, and I honestly question if I live among humans. They are entirely untroubled by evil from killing a cow to killing 800,000 people in Iraq.. I must be in hell.

richwicks says

I was a vegetarian for 25 years, there is no such thing as a vegan, we MUST consume animal products to survive, either eggs or dairy. Vegans really do not exist.

I was a vegetarian because I grew up in a remote area and I knew animals (not in the biblical sense), and it's just terrible to think they are being created to be killed, however after a point, you realize they are being created at all. Killing an animal is just horrible. I'm not in the area of being separated fr (some text omitted to shorten quote...) learly individuals with there own peronsalities, and it seems evil to kill them. They trust you. I might slip into being vegetarian again. It doesn't make a difference though, but I do not like killing but everything dies. It is really a conundrum. My struggle with morality makes me human. Most people don't have this struggle, and I honestly question if I live among humans. They are entirely untroubled by evil from killing a cow to killing 800,000 people in Iraq.. I must be in hell.

When I walk the babies every day in the hood and I hear the fucking dogs growl, bark and charge behind the wooden fences (and sometimes across the street just a few feet away), which have more holes than swiss cheese, I salivate at the idea of shooting and serving them for dinner. No more cute dog stories. Animals in the wild would eat you instantly if they needed food. Including chicken. It's nature's cycle. At the end of the day worms eat us, with pleasure. The farmer who knows how to raise and kill chickens is living closer to nature and the natural order than any peta freak.

mell says

When I walk the babies every day in the hood and I hear the fucking dogs growl, bark and charge behind the wooden fences (and sometimes across the street just a few feet away), which have more holes than swiss cheese, I salivate at the idea of shooting and serving them for dinner. No more cute dog stories. Animals in the wild would eat you instantly if they needed food. Including chicken. It's nature's cycle. At the end of the day worms eat us, with pleasure. The farmer who knows how to raise and kill chickens is living closer to nature and the natural order than any peta freak.

When I did dog fostering and rescue I was the sucker of the group, and took in the most broken animals. The two I kept, were basically what nobody wanted.

PETA is bullshit. All they do is beg for money to supposedly fix a problem, when they have no intention of fixing the problem. 100% of the expenses are in advertisement. They don't have shelters, they don't push for alternative research, they are entirely cynical. They do nothing useful at all.

When I had my dogs, they just would want to meet you. They both started out with bad lives, and I sheltered them. Once I got them, they believed that every human being was a nice person that loved them, because that's all I allowed them to meet.

You argue this is "nature's cycle". You can have it. I want out of it.

richwicks says

When I did dog fostering and rescue I was the sucker of the group, and took in the most broken animals. The two I kept, were basically what nobody wanted.

PETA is bullshit. All they do is beg for money to supposedly fix a problem, when they have no intention of fixing the problem. 100% of the expenses are in advertisement. They don't have shelters, they don't push for alternative research, they are entirely cynical. They do nothing useful at all.

When I had my dogs, they just would want to meet you. They both started out with bad lives, and I sheltered them. Once I got them, they believed that every human being was a nice person that loved them, because that's all I allowed them to meet.

You argue this is "nature's cycle". You can have it. I want out of it.

There are great dogs out there, no doubt. I just think it's a minority and it may be the owners fault. I think as long as people could hunt the meat they eat, eating meat is ok. But I agree it's not strictly necessary as long as you're vegetarian, not vegan.

mell says

But I agree it's not strictly necessary as long as you're vegetarian, not vegan.

There's no such thing as a vegan. They are as real as breatharians. You must consume some animal products. You cannot get B12 any other way.

richwicks says

mell says

But I agree it's not strictly necessary as long as you're vegetarian, not vegan.

There's no such thing as a vegan. They are as real as breatharians. You must consume some animal products. You cannot get B12 any other way.

Who cares? Ever see a chef bash a trouts head in fly fishing in Montana so you can grill it up? Legal, but totally frowned upon. Guess what, it was amazing.

I simply don't care. I know vets of the ME wars that watched humans die. Does the fox kill the rabbit? It's nature. We have words and feelings but we're still animals regardless of the words we classify ourselves as. A polar bear is not thinking, oh, that's a nice guy I won't eat him. Plants are living too, they just don't have eyes or the "cute" animal look. They're fuck great cooked right.

I've never gotten the anti-meat eating crowd. I don't care about vitamins or it being a living creature. It tastes good and I don't die. Maybe I'm selfish. I do agree though that you can't be a vegan without a high percentage of dying from malnutrition or you're lying and eating stuff in private. I think it's the latter.

If you're a vegetarian, you don't want to be near my house tomorrow for Mothers Day. Outside of the mimosas, everything will be from an animal. I guess there are jalapeños. Theoretically still a living organism. Which is why I agree with Rich, no one can technically be a vegan. I'm a meathead. I don't like putting down dogs, but they know you. A cow or pig is a common idiot. There's no connection, though the 4H crowd here in IL would disagree, but still kill the things to make $4k on the processed cow/pig.

richwicks says

You argue this is "nature's cycle". You can have it. I want out of it.

In time, Don't rush it.

RayAmerica says

I HATE the term 'vegan' and never use it to describe what I eat.

Having said that, changing to a nutritionally rich, plant based diet saved my life 15 years ago. I had a very serious heart condition that traditional medicine gave me 'at best 1-3 years' to live. Obviously, I'm still here, so I'd say it worked!

You eat animal products, and if you actually don't, you'll be dead in 2 years. It's impossible for a human being to be vegan. We must consume animal products, either eggs or dairy, we don't have to kill but we need to consume animal byproducts.

Onvacation says

richwicks says

You argue this is "nature's cycle". You can have it. I want out of it.

In time, Don't rush it.

I'm well aware. There's people that revel in life, I feel I'm stuck in a nightmare of non thinking human beings, if they are even human. I'm not only constantly gaslit by my government and media, I can deal with that, but I have to hear it from neighbors and friends. "The unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated" - 90% of the population accepts this without question. I know a woman that was vaccinated, got covid, and got a booster because she "didn't want to go through that again".

I mean. ???????? Is this is a human being I'm talking with. Can't she logic? And it's not just her, it's everybody nearly.

I had to painfully point out that if the previous vaccination didn't prevent the disease, a booster wouldn't.

I fucking hate television. I need to stop associating with people that have that goddamned propaganda panel in their home.

richwicks says

I'm well aware. There's people that revel in life, I feel I'm stuck in a nightmare of non thinking human beings, if they are even human. I'm not only constantly gaslit by my government and media, I can deal with that, but I have to hear it from neighbors and friends. "The unvaccinated are a threat to the vaccinated" - 90% of the population accepts this without question. I know a woman that was vaccinated, got covid, and got a booster because she "didn't want to go through that again".

I mean. ???????? Is this is a human being I'm talking with. Can't they logic?

I had to painfully point out that if the previous vaccination didn't prevent the disease, a booster wouldn't.

I fucking hate television. I need to stop associating with people that have that goddamned propaganda panel in their home.

TV has useful features. It was meant to provide entertainment. It's valuable for babies to occasionally put on a baby Einstein show or so to keep them at bay. It's good for streaming movies or shows occasionally. Just not to get news or any reliable information, just fiction/entertainment.

mell says

TV has useful features. It was meant to provide entertainment. It's valuable for babies to occasionally put on a baby Einstein show or so to keep them at bay. It's good for streaming movies or shows occasionally. Just not to get news or any reliable information, just fiction/entertainment.

No. Philo Farnsworth invented the television to be an educational tool, not an entertainment medium.

Farnsworth rejected his own invention. When his son asked why they didn't have a television, he is reported to have said:

There's nothing on it worthwhile, and we're not going to watch it in this household, and I don't want it in your intellectual diet.

And he was absolutely correct in that. It's poison. It distorts the mind. Consider any sitcom television show, you wouldn't laugh at the person or be silent, you'd likely beat them to death. Television is what tells us everything from what is socially acceptable, to what we should want and own, to what wars we should support. It's the worst invention ever, but it didn't need to be, but that was what it was turned into.

I'm telling you, it's a poison.

richwicks says

And he was absolutely correct in that. It's poison. It distorts the mind. Consider any sitcom television show, you wouldn't laugh at the person or be silent, you'd likely beat them to death. Television is what tells us everything from what is socially acceptable, to what we should want and own, to what wars we should support. It's the worst invention ever, but it didn't need to be, but that was what it was turned into.

I'm telling you, it's a poison.

I don't care what he invented it for, many countries had plenty of good weekend family shows back then, or their own crime/adventure shows the nation was watching (non pedowood stuff), those were actually a net positive for the nations. It's also occasionally good for kids, sesame street used to be educational only and free of pedo trannyfag shit. It always depends on what you make out of it and what you use it for. It's never the technology, it's what you use it for. Even mrna tech should be studied for research in deadly illnesses, it may be useful in a few conditions, just not for colds, and not delivering maiming spike proteins.

mell says

TV has useful features. It was meant to provide entertainment.

Correct -just like movies, sports arenas, and live theater. After all, TV is just a way to get movies, newsreels, sports, and theater into your home. Good or bad depends on content.

HeadSet says

mell says

TV has useful features. It was meant to provide entertainment.

Correct -just like movies, sports arenas, and live theater. After all, TV is just a way to get movies, newsreels, sports, and theater into your home. Good or bad depends on content.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_(TV_series)

One of the most successful TV shows in history. No woke shit, no unnecessary gore, just good ole detective TV

richwicks says

mell says

But I agree it's not strictly necessary as long as you're vegetarian, not vegan.

There's no such thing as a vegan. They are as real as breatharians. You must consume some animal products. You cannot get B12 any other way.

Are you sure, I thought B12 is mostly made by microbes in dirt not by either animals or plants. Animals get it by eating food that contains them. B12 generally found in root vegetables in contact with the dirt.
https://generationiron.com/vitamin-b12-plant-based-diet/
https://www.peacefuldumpling.com/vitamin-b12-eat-your-dirt

Patrick says

All animals are fair game to eat. It's nature. Humans are the only species even engaging in the thought and practice of humane killing of food. Animals will hunt, torture and kill their prey just for entertainment. Not a judgement, just a fact. That includes dogs hunting wabbits and cats torturing birds they injured enough so they can corner them ;)

All babies want to live, where do the PETA /prodeath crowd draw the line?