patrick.net

In any nuclear exchange, the west coast is fucked due to fallout patterns, unless there are massive rain storms over the pacific.

IIRC, the last serious assessment of the outcome of nuclear war was conducted under Eisenhower in the late 1950's. This was an assessment based on 1/10 of the current weapons stockpile. The results were so horrifying in terms of deaths (IIRC over 50% of the US population in the first year alone), that no other studies were done thereafter.

I think that Ike's farewell address was influenced by what he learned in that study; namely, that if these weapons are ever to be used, they would eliminate human civilization and probably throw us back to the condition of the human race 70,000 years ago in the aftermath of the Toba mega eruption, where it's estimated that less than 1,000 breeding pairs of humans survived - that is why humans, among all the primates, have the least genetic diversity.

Shaman says

This is something a friend forwarded to me. No real confidence in it.
But who knows? I’m going to Havasu on the 5th, so not being in LA for any potential nuclear war seems like a good plan. Although I did book this trip a couple weeks ago.

I checked, it was sunny and nice in Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine. How strange it wasn't bombed.

It's 04:11 AM as I type this, July 5th in Ukraine. It's July 4th, 18:11 in Commie Fornia, USA.

I suggest you remove your source, as a "source" but there is like 16 hours of bullshit to go through.. Maybe the operation had a hiccup, but maybe this was just bullshit. Russia controls this plant now, the only way to bomb it is from the air now, or explosives left behind.

richwicks says

Well, supposedly we have less than 48 hours left (!) if I'm to believe what Shaman posted, and I don't.

Russia has pulled out their troops from the area, very recently. There was talk of this being done before at another nuclear plant. I wouldn't put it past any of them(Putin, Biden, Zelensky) to stage a nuclear accident to gain power.

It’s probably woo, but just because something has never happened doesn’t mean it won’t ever happen, or couldn’t happen tomorrow.
I don’t trust the people who run the world. Satanist pedophiles, all of them.
They’d initiate WWIII convinced in their own invincibility.

Shaman says

It’s probably woo, but just because something has never happened doesn’t mean it won’t ever happen, or couldn’t happen tomorrow.
I don’t trust the people who run the world. Satanist pedophiles, all of them.
They’d initiate WWIII convinced in their own invincibility.

Consider the mentality of somebody who would make a post in an attempt to incite panic. Somewhere out there there's some fucking bastard cunt asshole out there that posted this:



So, is this just some twat kid, or some fucker in the intelligence agencies?

One thing I've noticed over many years, is normally the average person is pretty decent, but as soon as it's government, it's a twat.

If the internet says it’s sunny outside I usually check for myself and more often than not it’s raining!

I don’t believe most of what I see on the internet these days.
It’s usually fake or some troll winding up people. And then all the grifters join in with decode intel comm videos all trying to sell something from cable tv subscriptions to water filters to lost alien technology to scratch cards. And then their follow grifters endorse and approve as if this somehow proves it is all true. And then more bots appear to upvote or down vote and around and around we go in circles getting absolutely nowhere.

Nothing has happened. No zombie apocalypse, alien invasion, martial law military coup, stock market collapse (in fact Nasdaq 100 is at a yearly high). Nothing.

And yet people still peddle and believe in rumours that something is gonna happen “soon” but don’t ask them when “soon” is. I can understand why they get sucked down into these rabbit holes because so much of what is happening in the world today doesn’t make sense. I could offer explanations but I haven’t got any proof and I’d probably just be digging another hole (for myself mostly!)

Critical thinkers (like myself ;-) though I have been fooled before) just look at the track record of all these claims and see how most of the population suffer from attention deficit disorder. They totally forget what bs they believed in 6 months ago only focusing on this weeks bs. One example is where King Charles III was alleged to have been executed a long time ago yet yesterday he enjoyed his 2nd Coronation as King of Scotland. No doubt true believers will say all of this is a ruse and it was a masked man, avatar, cgi, robot, lizard that got crowned because somehow that’s part of the plan to wake people up.

It doesn’t matter to me if there is a hidden war going on in the background with countless parties spreading misinformation and counter disinformation, with 1000’s of so called patriot truthers repeating (often incorrectly) anything that pops up in their social media feeds. I can’t verify anything, I won’t act on anything. It’s a waste of my time to follow any of it. I will just live my life and prepare for any eventuality as best I can.

charlie303 says

It doesn’t matter to me if there is a hidden war going on in the background with countless parties spreading misinformation and counter disinformation, with 1000’s of so called patriot truthers repeating (often incorrectly) anything that pops up in their social media feeds.

THIS bothers me.

The point of the internet is global communication to end war, to end frauds, to stop propaganda.

But there are people who do the exact opposite, do everything in their power to do it. Why? Conflict is not good for society, reduction of conflict is.

I know there's assholes out there that want to start a war for NO OTHER REASON than they want to sell weapons. I think the problem is that your average "normal" person simply doesn't comprehend what a sociopath really is.

We just went through a fake pandemic, and people still aren't aware of what sociopaths are in power. They happily pushed a bunch of experimental vaccines into arms, and what has that done? Even the sociopaths don't know, and they don't care, but underneath that of the "banality of evil", is a reason for it. I wonder what just happened? Global experimentation? Population reduction? It couldn't have just been about selling worthless vaccines that didn't work, if they wanted to do that, they could have just injected everybody with saline.

Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully. I meant there is nothing I can do, nothing I can prove and so I can’t let it concern me too much.
I’m absolutely horrified that people took the jab but to this day they won’t change their beliefs. Many are still lining up for more shots and many will stay that way until the day they die. I could show them all the threads on Patrick.net about the vaccine and all they would do is accuse me of being a flat earther. Hard experience has shown me that I’m not going to change anybody’s view and in fact I’m just creating stress and problems for myself.
I understand and agree with your points about sociopaths and the elites who hold us in contempt. I would love to end global war and I am concerned about a nuclear World War 3. I just see the internet as causing just as many problems as it was meant to solve.
And there’s little I can do about that. I’m not getting lost though in some impotent, black pilled depression. I’m just focusing on my own life. I’m as ready as I’ll ever be for monumental change.

charlie303 says

Maybe I should have chosen my words more carefully. I meant there is nothing I can do, nothing I can prove and so I can’t let it concern me too much.

Well, this may be the difference, I feel partially responsible for this mess. I was at CableLabs in 1995. If you have a DOCSIS cable modem, SOME of my work may be in that.

I watch what is going on carefully. I was APPALLED when the Bush administration was able to lie us into Iraq, but the Internet was still "fairly new" then but now everybody is on it. There's considerable pushback against agendas, companies that we helped created now push for the wars we wanted to prevent, they push censorship. That blindsided me, I never saw that happening, I thought Google was going to be an adversary to the corporate mass media, not cooperate with it. How naive I was, but Yandex popped up. Many others.

charlie303 says

all they would do is accuse me of being a flat earther.

And that's the purpose of that psy-op. They do not exist as a real group. I've been on the Internet since 1989, people who believed (supposedly) in the flat earth didn't show up until 2010 or so. I've seen ALL sorts of crazies, but not them. 99.9% of them aren't serious. They are like the Church of the Subgenius, which exists just to make fun of religion. The people who are "members" will SWEAR UP AND DOWN they believe in it as a REAL religion, but they don't.



The point of the flat earth psy-op is to get people to associate any ACTUAL government conspiracy, with a ridiculous one. "Oh, you don't think vaccines are safe effective? You must be crazy!"

charlie303 says

Hard experience has shown me that I’m not going to change anybody’s view and in fact I’m just creating stress and problems for myself.

Oh no, I disagree. Our society is wildly different than it was 40 years ago. There's still the cows and sheep of society today, but 40 years ago, that's practically all there was - and this is not because they were stupid, it was just impossible to access information.

Stress is in your mind. You allow yourself to feel it, but I'll warn you, if you just eliminate it, it's like removing your ability to feel pain. Pain warns you about doing things that will harm you. I don't have any stress.

charlie303 says

I understand and agree with your points about sociopaths and the elites who hold us in contempt. I would love to end global war and I am concerned about a nuclear World War 3.

We have been in World War 3 for a long time, but it won't go nuclear. Nuclear war doesn't advantage anybody, and for that reason alone, it will never be done.

The fear of war is used to control the population. "Back up your government or bad things will happen, NOT FROM US, of course, from outside forces..."

charlie303 says

I just see the internet as causing just as many problems as it was meant to solve.

It's a sorting thing. It solves a lot of problems, but it creates others for those that allow it to control them.

Take this transgender nonsense for example - as cruel as this sounds, it's merely a voluntary eugenics program.

I know we're going through growing pains, but democratization of information is essential to human development.

charlie303 says

And there’s little I can do about that. I’m not getting lost though in some impotent, black pilled depression. I’m just focusing on my own life. I’m as ready as I’ll ever be for monumental change.

Black pill is temporary. First you're oblivious, then you are lost and confused, then you understand how dark it is (that's the black pill) then you start coming out of it and coming up with solutions on how to fix the problem.

The country itself is in this low state right now. I was there at least 15 years ago. There ARE solutions, but the first step in fixing a problem is showing there's a problem.

We have a senile, pedophile, that wasn't elected as "president" with a crackwhore son. I can laugh at this, but many people don't. I don't regard Biden as any different at all to Obama or George W. Bush. They are puppets. I saw this over 15 years ago when FEW people did. It didn't matter who we elected, if Al Gore was president in 2000 to 2004, we would still have gone to war with Iraq - just different lies to do it. It would have been about "humanitarian reasons" - "We supported Hussein in the 1980's, and we have a MORAL OBLIGATION to repair that mistake" or some other nonsense.

This is just clown world to me. It was funny 2 years ago, and I'm no longer laughing. I wish society would catch up to me, until they do, we're stuck with this shitty government.

charlie303 says

Nothing has happened. No zombie apocalypse, alien invasion, martial law military coup, stock market collapse (in fact Nasdaq 100 is at a yearly high). Nothing

Nothing yet.

Did you ever think our government, in concert with many governments all over the world, would try to make us take a potentially fatal shot every four months or we couldn't work or travel? I never guessed that one. Stock market collapse is mild by comparison.

richwicks says

I know there's assholes

You mean, "there're assholes".

Onvacation says

richwicks says

I know there's assholes

You mean, "there're assholes".

Ugh, yes, but I gave up being a grammar Nazi in my 20's. I used to be obsessed with it. I'm NOT fixing my post.

Just my feeble attempt at being funny.

Onvacation says

Just my feeble attempt at being funny.

Haha, I'm not offended. You're correct, but I will display my error.

richwicks says

The point of the internet is global communication to end war, to end frauds, to stop propaganda.

The original purpose of the Internet was an unstoppable comm system in case of nuclear war. The things you mention are unfortunate (from governments pov) side effects.

The internet may usher in a new age of unprecedented world freedom or be the mechanism that enslaves us all.

Time tells truths that now will never know.

richwicks says

Consider the mentality of somebody who would make a post in an attempt to incite panic. Somewhere out there there's some fucking bastard cunt asshole out there that posted this:

I actually think posts like this are SUPER important. Something came out in the past year about a covid shot manufacturing plant being the target of a false flag attack. Never happened. Similarly I think we remember the small-pox vials that went missing from a university. Myself and a LOT of other people bought the natural cure for smallpox(a flower tincture). Never happened either.

But here's my point. If we're on to them from the get-go, do they abandon the plan because they've lose the element of surprise and credibility? Definitely possible. Surveillance works both ways, and I'd rather have someone calling out every possible false flag, and not one ever happen, then everyone asleep at the wheel, and get taken the way alot of us did on 9/11, during the Scamdemic, etc.

Onvacation says

Did you ever think our government, in concert with many governments all over the world, would try to make us take a potentially fatal shot every four months or we couldn't work or travel? I never guessed that one.

Now that I see just how genocidal the NSA/Pfizer complex really is, I have to revise my opinions of the Kennedy assassinations and 9/11. They now seem pretty certain to have been US government operations.

https://freebeacon.com/elections/documents-provide-rare-glimpse-into-how-arabella-advisors-exerts-centralized-control-over-a-vast-left-wing-advocacy-network/

Documents Provide Rare Glimpse Into How Arabella Advisors Exerts Centralized Control Over a Vast Left-Wing Advocacy Network

Andrew Kerr and Joseph Simonson
July 10, 2023
The Student Experience Research Network sounds innocuous enough. The organization says it exists to "advance the research, relationships, and capacity necessary to build an education system in which every student experiences respect as a valued person and thinker."

In reality, the group funds research with the goal of promoting DEI practices in education and partners with other left-wing organizations to promote "inclusive mathematics environments" and push universities to abandon standardized tests. Earlier this month, the Student Experience Research Network took a victory lap after the University of California system said it would toss out the SAT in its admissions process.

The Student Experience Research Network and hundreds of other left-wing activist groups like it are controlled from the top down by Arabella Advisors, a for-profit consultancy that plays an integral role in Democratic causes, fueled by donations from billionaires including George Soros and Pierre Omidyar. The company, which distributes billions to Democratic pet projects, has established five tax-exempt nonprofit groups that pay Arabella a hefty fee—ostensibly for back-office work—and in turn operate a vast array of left-wing advocacy groups including the Student Experience Research Network.

Patrick says

From 1945 and 1946.

https://startlemag.substack.com/p/vehemence-memes

Greetings Earthlings! Ratio here…

Are we experiencing slavery? Is it first world slavery?

CIA Rabbit holes present themselves to your sphere with their gravitational pull and you are lucky to pull up long enough before you tell your conspiracy friends you “figured it all out”.

Just think, the second I write this, the second you click on this it is flagged in a NSA database somewhere and turns up in a queue of an analyst who then reviews it and flags it further to at some point maybe bring it to someone’s attention. The criteria are set forth. Something like, if the content creator has millions of followers then lets engage our partners in big tech to tamp down the energy involved with a potential outcome of an awakening that might challenge the power structure.

I wonder, though, how far it goes back - the power structure. Are we talking as far back as the masons? Is it the Sumerians? Bible timelines? Did it start with the Nephilim? Were we implanted here on Earth after the atmosphere of Mars collapsed? Was it when Tiamat/Planet X destroyed the planet between Mars and Jupiter to give us the Asteroid belt? ...

When it comes down to it we are dealing with evil. The type of evil that exists in the world today that says, yes, we need control over the global money supply and siphon off profits indefinitely and set up the system so there is no way around it.

The shear amount of freedom individuals have today is staggering. There are no internal barriers stopping people from traveling pretty much anywhere in the US, and minimal paperwork to travel pretty much anywhere in the world.

Educational opportunities are available to pretty much anyone in any field.

Yes, who your Daddy is does make a difference, but individual effort is by far the determining factor.

Misc says

but individual effort is by far the determining factor.

Absolutely. Trust fund babies have a distinct edge, but they are rather rare.

Misc says

There are no internal barriers stopping people from traveling pretty much anywhere in the US, and minimal paperwork to travel pretty much anywhere in the world.

Try going anywhere without a license and registration. Try driving around SoCal and Arizona without ever stopping at a checkpoint. Try crossing into Mexico and back without having to speak to anyone or show any papers. Try traveling to countries that still require proof of the shot without having that proof. Try traveling to any country without a passport.

What you see as freedom, your forefathers saw as tyranny.

NuttBoxer says

Try traveling to any country without a passport.

I was surprised to learn that passports are a fairly recent invention, about 1900 I think.

I believe they specifically came out of WWI or II in Europe, then were spread to the rest of the world. I'm sure it was all quite intentional.

Misc says

The shear amount of freedom individuals have today is staggering. There are no internal barriers stopping people from traveling pretty much anywhere in the US, and minimal paperwork to travel pretty much anywhere in the world.

You don't understand. It's not about travel, it's about freedom.

You remember that company MySpace? They were the ORIGINAL Facebook. They're gone, pretty much, because Facebook is CIA. They killed MySpace to do it. Remember all the promotion of Facebook? Maybe not. In 2005 or so, the media couldn't shut up about it. It was covered everywhere. Companies co-operated with Facebook to link of people in your contacts list in email. No kidding.

How do you think Facebook got access to so much information?

You can't even talk openly on Facebook now. Your PRIVATE messages on it get censored. You can't share links. They lie to the public constantly, they denied shadowbans, they still do. YouTube denies it does this, but they do it all the time. Open up a RANDOM video on something political, open up a reply that says there's between 20-30 comments to it, and count them.

We have an illusion of freedom. We don't have freedom. If we had freedom, we wouldn't be at war with Russia right now. It's possible that our last few wars would have never happened, if we could just talk. We're told we have a free press, we do not have a free press.

The WORST people in the world, inexplicably, end up in the highest positions of power, don't you wonder why? Name a GOOD billionaire, Musk might be one you think to say - that's as close to it as it gets, and he's really not good at all.

Nextdoor.com is just as bad as Facebook too.

Patrick says

Nextdoor.com is just as bad as Facebook too.

Absolutely. They were very active around here purging anything critical of the Covid vaxx.

The Rothschild family is pulling all the main strings.

They control most of the world.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/a-republic-if-you-can-keep-it

i was having a conversation with gatopal™ gerodoc the other day. he said this:

“I feel like it’s hard to analyze why our system fails us so badly without analyzing the effects of the intel community & how they are pushing & nudging things just under the surface.”

he then posted a tinfoil meme as though he was expecting to get roasted.

instead i was like:




i think there's real truth to his intuition. the intelligence community have become incredibly powerful and it’s not exactly a stretch to imagine that folks literally trained in espionage, disinformation, manipulation, kompromat, extortion, and asset grooming might, if left unchecked, morph into the worst kind of surreptitious svengalis pulling strings from the shadows. ...

the patriot act was one of the worst things to happen to america in 100 years.

the terrorists won. nothing they could ever have done would have inflicted the damage we inflicted upon ourselves, day in, day out, year after year.

it broke everything.

it dismantled and deranged our way of life and our core values.

cuz, fear.

the “patriot act” inverted the idea of patriotism into submission to nasty, authoritarian edict.

it wiped out rights, due process, and muscularized and militarized the agencies that would run roughshod over you.

massive panics are the times to grab liberty. and you never let a crisis go to waste.

this is the stock in trade of the fear monger.




... they have become thieves’ forests of grifters and power grabbers that stretch from EPA to FBI, DOJ to NIH, and CDC to CIA. they swirl around this idea of “homeland security uber alles” and the new fashions in fear to drive greater surrenders of agency in the fruitless societal fracture of desperately trying to trade a little liberty for a little safety. ...

when did covid get out of control in the US? right when the national security advisor sent in debbie birx to run the show. and how did she run roughshod over so many purportedly powerful people? because she had the real power behind her, the deep influence of the “deep state.”

“deep state.” it’s fun the way that term has been gaslit into some sort of “Q anon triple-tinfoil raving nutter conspiracy,” but ask yourself: who might have benefitted from such a perception? who might have put such a gambit into play? surely not the disinformation specialists who suppressed the lab leak hypothesis that they knew full well to be the odds on explanation. no, surely not…

you can see what happens when the wrong questions get asked about the wrong people. omerta. discrediting operations. false flags. tinsel. reputational destruction. deplatforming. censorship, suppression, threats to livelihoods, threats to lives. then show trials and outright intimidation. ...

words you'll never hear:

"we the experts empaneled to study the crisis have determined that it is not, in fact, a crisis. please accept the return of the remainder of our budget."

everything must be crisis (and the right sort of crisis) or the increasingly monolithic gold givers will not fund you. ...

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/guide-understanding-hoax-century-thirteen-ways-looking-disinformation

In the wake of the populist upheavals of 2016, leading figures in America’s ruling party seized upon the feedback loop of surveillance and control refined through the war on terror as a method for maintaining power inside the United States. Weapons created to fight ISIS and al-Qaeda were turned against Americans who entertained incorrect thoughts about the president or vaccine boosters or gender pronouns or the war in Ukraine. ...

The fight against ISIS morphed into the fight against Trump and “Russian collusion,” which morphed into the fight against disinformation. But those were just branding changes; the underlying technological infrastructure and ruling-class philosophy, which claimed the right to remake the world based on a religious sense of expertise, remained unchanged. The human art of politics, which would have required real negotiation and compromise with Trump supporters, was abandoned in favor of a specious science of top-down social engineering that aimed to produce a totally administered society.