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DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2023 Oct 12, 10:45pm
https://supermacro.substack.com/p/for-joe-its-all-downhill-from-here
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2023 Oct 12, 10:45pm
Since Biden took office, cumulative inflation of nearly 20 percent means that the government has effectively vaporized one-fifth of voters’ savings and purchasing power. Unlike a stock market decline, this is lost money and buying power that cannot be recovered in the future.
https://supermacro.substack.com/p/for-joe-its-all-downhill-from-here
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2023 Oct 12, 11:20pm
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2023 Oct 12, 11:20pm
PedoIwog says
I understand and agree. That is why you have to protect your money at least put it in assets like stocks.
I just hope that for at least the next 3 years income increases are greater than inflation so that income catches up with prices like on rent.
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Since Biden took office, cumulative inflation of nearly 20 percent means that the government has effectively vaporized one-fifth of voters’ savings and purchasing power. Unlike a stock market decline, this is lost money and buying power that cannot be recovered in the future.
I understand and agree. That is why you have to protect your money at least put it in assets like stocks.
I just hope that for at least the next 3 years income increases are greater than inflation so that income catches up with prices like on rent.
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zzyzzx
2023 Oct 13, 6:22am
zzyzzx
2023 Oct 13, 6:22am
PedoIwog says
In theory, if we can somehow ever manage to get some deflation that purchasing power can be recovered. There is literally a zero percent chance of that happening.
this is lost money and buying power that cannot be recovered in the future.
In theory, if we can somehow ever manage to get some deflation that purchasing power can be recovered. There is literally a zero percent chance of that happening.
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HeadSet
2023 Oct 13, 6:23am
HeadSet
2023 Oct 13, 6:23am
PedoIwog says
Yes. but since debtors outnumber savers, this will have little political impact. Some debtors will notice if the credit card interest rates go up, but other debtors will only notice if the minimum payment increases.
Since Biden took office, cumulative inflation of nearly 20 percent means that the government has effectively vaporized one-fifth of voters’ savings and purchasing power.
Yes. but since debtors outnumber savers, this will have little political impact. Some debtors will notice if the credit card interest rates go up, but other debtors will only notice if the minimum payment increases.
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2023 Oct 13, 12:04pm
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2023 Oct 13, 12:04pm
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S&P 500 at 4330
Based on 25% inflation since February 2020, its real return is nearly 0%
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S&P 500 at 4330
Based on 25% inflation since February 2020, its real return is nearly 0%
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2023 Oct 13, 12:07pm
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2023 Oct 13, 12:07pm
zzyzzx says
Disinflation (i.e., reduction in the inflation rate) is only possible. I hope income (includes Social Security and VA disability recipients) at least increases at a rate of 1% greater than inflation each year for the next 7 years.
The last time I'm aware of deflation was around 2009 and the Great Depression.
One of my favorite inflation stocks is Cal-Maine Foods Inc .... I monitor it versus the average cost of a dozen eggs ...
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In theory, if we can somehow ever manage to get some deflation that purchasing power can be recovered. There is literally a zero percent chance of that happening.
Disinflation (i.e., reduction in the inflation rate) is only possible. I hope income (includes Social Security and VA disability recipients) at least increases at a rate of 1% greater than inflation each year for the next 7 years.
The last time I'm aware of deflation was around 2009 and the Great Depression.
One of my favorite inflation stocks is Cal-Maine Foods Inc .... I monitor it versus the average cost of a dozen eggs ...
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B.A.C.A.H.
2023 Oct 13, 1:45pm
B.A.C.A.H.
2023 Oct 13, 1:45pm
ad says
What matters to me is my personal inflation rate. On a massive spread sheet, I track the prices of nearly everything I spend on, except discretionary sh*t like eating out, live sports, travel. Including income and property taxes.
My household's personal annual inflation rate this month is 5.64%
I am hoping that prices drop a lot this month to compensate for this adjustment and that the annual inflation rate remains below 4%.
What matters to me is my personal inflation rate. On a massive spread sheet, I track the prices of nearly everything I spend on, except discretionary sh*t like eating out, live sports, travel. Including income and property taxes.
My household's personal annual inflation rate this month is 5.64%
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2023 Oct 16, 8:55pm
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2023 Oct 16, 8:55pm
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assume 4% annual inflation since 1970, so $2395 in 1970 is $19,146 in 2023 dollars
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assume 4% annual inflation since 1970, so $2395 in 1970 is $19,146 in 2023 dollars
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2023 Oct 16, 9:34pm
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2023 Oct 16, 9:34pm
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seemed like prices were reasonable compared to minimum wage back then ... the 19 cents hot dog in 1977 would be $1.15 in 2023 dollars based on annual inflation rate of 4% ... $2.30 an hour was minimum wage in 1977
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seemed like prices were reasonable compared to minimum wage back then ... the 19 cents hot dog in 1977 would be $1.15 in 2023 dollars based on annual inflation rate of 4% ... $2.30 an hour was minimum wage in 1977
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ForcedTQ
2023 Oct 16, 10:24pm
ad says
Only thing that comes close to that now a days is the Costco Dog and Fountain drink for $1.50
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seemed like prices were reasonable compared to minimum wage back then ... the 19 cents hot dog in 1977 would be $1.15 in 2023 dollars based on annual inflation rate of 4% ... $2.30 an hour was minimum wage in 1977
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Only thing that comes close to that now a days is the Costco Dog and Fountain drink for $1.50
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2023 Oct 21, 7:58pm
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2023 Oct 21, 7:58pm
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https://nypost.com/2023/09/04/credit-card-and-car-loan-defaults-hit-10-year-high-as-inflation-squeezes-families/
credit card and car loan defaults at 10 year high :-(
all symptoms of a recession
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https://nypost.com/2023/09/04/credit-card-and-car-loan-defaults-hit-10-year-high-as-inflation-squeezes-families/
credit card and car loan defaults at 10 year high :-(
all symptoms of a recession
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514
Bd6r
2023 Oct 22, 11:32am
Bd6r
2023 Oct 22, 11:32am
Selective inflation in ammo: 22LR real cheap (less than 5 c per round), but 7.62x39 expensive, almost 50 c per round occasionally. I wonder why…
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2023 Oct 22, 11:50am
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2023 Oct 22, 11:50am
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22LR is good to shot off to scare anyone away that is somewhat easy to scare off
then use 9 mm and 5.56 NATO for the more hardened or psychotic intruders like Hamas terrorists ... only 20 cents a round approximately for 9 mm. I remember it was $1 a round....
note that Wall St Journal reported someone fired a 9 mm round at the thighs of a Hamas terrorist in a kibbutz raid and the terrorists fled after getting fired on ...
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/5.56x45mm-nato
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger?co=new
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22LR is good to shot off to scare anyone away that is somewhat easy to scare off
then use 9 mm and 5.56 NATO for the more hardened or psychotic intruders like Hamas terrorists ... only 20 cents a round approximately for 9 mm. I remember it was $1 a round....
note that Wall St Journal reported someone fired a 9 mm round at the thighs of a Hamas terrorist in a kibbutz raid and the terrorists fled after getting fired on ...
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/5.56x45mm-nato
https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger?co=new
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2023 Oct 22, 10:59pm
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2023 Oct 22, 10:59pm
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"In response to the US Treasury Department figures released Friday, Kogan said that "roughly 75%" of the surge in the deficit and the debt ratio, the amount of federal debt relative to the overall size of the economy, was due to revenue decreases resulting from GOP-approved tax cuts over recent decades. "Of the remaining 25%," he said, "more than half" was higher interest payments on the debt related to Federal Reserve policy."
"We have a revenue problem, due to tax cuts," said Kogan, pointing to the major tax laws enacted under the administrations of George W. Bush and Donald Trump. "The Bush and Trump tax cuts broke our modern tax structure. Revenue is significantly lower and no longer grows much with the economy."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-bush-tax-cuts-fuel-growing-deficits
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"In response to the US Treasury Department figures released Friday, Kogan said that "roughly 75%" of the surge in the deficit and the debt ratio, the amount of federal debt relative to the overall size of the economy, was due to revenue decreases resulting from GOP-approved tax cuts over recent decades. "Of the remaining 25%," he said, "more than half" was higher interest payments on the debt related to Federal Reserve policy."
"We have a revenue problem, due to tax cuts," said Kogan, pointing to the major tax laws enacted under the administrations of George W. Bush and Donald Trump. "The Bush and Trump tax cuts broke our modern tax structure. Revenue is significantly lower and no longer grows much with the economy."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-bush-tax-cuts-fuel-growing-deficits
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HeadSet
2023 Oct 23, 6:35am
HeadSet
2023 Oct 23, 6:35am
ad says
They go through a lot of trouble to avoid simply charting actual REVENUES after the tax cuts. The deficit is because spending exceeded the revenue gain.
"In response to the US Treasury Department figures released Friday, Kogan said that "roughly 75%" of the surge in the deficit and the debt ratio, the amount of federal debt relative to the overall size of the economy, was due to revenue decreases resulting from GOP-approved tax cuts over recent decades. "Of the remaining 25%," he said, "more than half" was higher interest payments on the debt related to Federal Reserve policy."
They go through a lot of trouble to avoid simply charting actual REVENUES after the tax cuts. The deficit is because spending exceeded the revenue gain.
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2023 Oct 23, 9:51am
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2023 Oct 23, 9:51am
HeadSet says
There has been a lot of new spending besides for the Pentagon. Look at how Medicare prescription program and the 9/11 GI Bill were among the new spending programs over the last 20 years. They need to slowly reduce the rate of spending increases such as 0.5% below the inflation rate for each year of the next 5 year period to see if this helps to reduce annual deficits and debt.
"From 2010 through 2016, the Veterans Benefits Administration spent $65 billion on educational benefits for 1.6 million veterans, spouses and children, mostly for veterans' tuition, fees, and housing. In 2016, VBA spent an average of $17,400 per beneficiary."
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ad says
"In response to the US Treasury Department figures released Friday, Kogan said that "roughly 75%" of the surge in the deficit and the debt ratio, the amount of federal debt relative to the overall size of the economy, was due to revenue decreases resulting from GOP-approved tax cuts over recent decades. "Of the remaining 25%," he said, "more than half" was higher interest payments on the debt related to Federal Reserve policy."
They go through a lot of trouble to avoid simply charting actual REVENUES after the tax cuts. The deficit is because spending exceeded the revenue gain.
There has been a lot of new spending besides for the Pentagon. Look at how Medicare prescription program and the 9/11 GI Bill were among the new spending programs over the last 20 years. They need to slowly reduce the rate of spending increases such as 0.5% below the inflation rate for each year of the next 5 year period to see if this helps to reduce annual deficits and debt.
"From 2010 through 2016, the Veterans Benefits Administration spent $65 billion on educational benefits for 1.6 million veterans, spouses and children, mostly for veterans' tuition, fees, and housing. In 2016, VBA spent an average of $17,400 per beneficiary."
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2023 Oct 23, 9:53am
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2023 Oct 23, 9:53am
And the Congressional Democrats proposed a 2024 budget that increases spending by 5.1% from 2023.
I hope they are just putting that out there with an intent of willing to negotiate an increase at no more than 3.25% (and no more than the annual inflation rate).
I hope they are just putting that out there with an intent of willing to negotiate an increase at no more than 3.25% (and no more than the annual inflation rate).
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2023 Oct 25, 10:42am
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2023 Oct 25, 10:42am
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so much for asset (i.e., stocks, ETFs and mutual funds) appreciation ...
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so much for asset (i.e., stocks, ETFs and mutual funds) appreciation ...
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2023 Oct 27, 4:19pm
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2023 Oct 27, 4:19pm
PumpingRedheads says
I look forward to reading more about this on Wolfman's website.
Overall inflation measured in terms of Personal Consumption Expenditure (PCE) is tracking down and is steady around 3.4% for last 12 months
I think this statistic will slowly track down to 3% within next 6 months and the "new accepted norm" will be annual inflation at or below 3.25%
https://www.bea.gov/news/2023/personal-income-and-outlays-september-2023
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https://wolfstreet.com/2023/10/27/powells-gonna-have-a-cow-when-he-sees-the-pce-inflation-spikes-in-core-services-housing-and-non-housing-core-services/
I look forward to reading more about this on Wolfman's website.
Overall inflation measured in terms of Personal Consumption Expenditure (PCE) is tracking down and is steady around 3.4% for last 12 months
I think this statistic will slowly track down to 3% within next 6 months and the "new accepted norm" will be annual inflation at or below 3.25%
https://www.bea.gov/news/2023/personal-income-and-outlays-september-2023
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2023 Oct 27, 4:26pm
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2023 Oct 27, 4:26pm
The S&P 500 is at 4117 and its peak before the pandemic was in February 2020 at 3380.
Inflation has been about 20% since February 2020, so the S&P 500's real return is 21.8% minus 20% or 1.8% since February 2020 :-/
QE and a Fed Funds rate at 5.5% (the highest in 23 years) is appearing to have an effect on asset inflation in regards to the stock market.
Also see below as if you factor out the top 10 companies like Google, Microsoft and Apple, the S&P 500 would be faring a lot worse.
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Inflation has been about 20% since February 2020, so the S&P 500's real return is 21.8% minus 20% or 1.8% since February 2020 :-/
QE and a Fed Funds rate at 5.5% (the highest in 23 years) is appearing to have an effect on asset inflation in regards to the stock market.
Also see below as if you factor out the top 10 companies like Google, Microsoft and Apple, the S&P 500 would be faring a lot worse.
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524
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2023 Oct 27, 4:46pm
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2023 Oct 27, 4:46pm
ad says
That's a bogus stat.
Overall inflation measured in terms of Personal Consumption Expenditure (PCE) is tracking down and is steady around 3.4% for last 12 months
I think this statistic will slowly track down to 3% within next 6 months and the "new accepted norm" will be annual inflation at or below 3.25%
That's a bogus stat.
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2023 Oct 27, 6:03pm
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PumpingRedheads says
It at least provides a trend in regards to the direction of consumer inflation.
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ad says
Overall inflation measured in terms of Personal Consumption Expenditure (PCE) is tracking down and is steady around 3.4% for last 12 months
I think this statistic will slowly track down to 3% within next 6 months and the "new accepted norm" will be annual inflation at or below 3.25%
That's a bogus stat.
It at least provides a trend in regards to the direction of consumer inflation.
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2023 Oct 29, 1:25am
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2023 Oct 29, 1:25am
We are in a conundrum as far as avoiding debt crisis ... look at it interest payments almost doubling since 2020 from ~$500 billion to ~$980 billion :-(
Going to have to make cuts such as to entitlements and maybe raise taxes as well ... the smartest they could do is just increase spending by 1/2 of the inflation rate for the next 4 years to see if this leads to any fiscal improvement such as with debt to GDP ratio...
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Going to have to make cuts such as to entitlements and maybe raise taxes as well ... the smartest they could do is just increase spending by 1/2 of the inflation rate for the next 4 years to see if this leads to any fiscal improvement such as with debt to GDP ratio...
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2023 Oct 31, 9:41am
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2023 Oct 31, 9:41am
Not enough workers and inflation causing the first McDonald's in Panama City, Florida to shut down : https://www.mypanhandle.com/news/local-news/bay-county/panama-city/first-bay-county-mcdonalds-location-closing-its-doors/
Also the budget-minded hotels (i.e., at least 4 miles from Panama City's beach) are having problems finding workers: https://www.wjhg.com/2023/10/30/panama-city-hotels-struggling-with-worker-shortages/
These service industries (fast food and budget-minded hotels) need to figure out fast how to innovate to increase productivity. They need to streamline. This means less workers but at much higher compensation, for example. Offer performance bonuses, profit sharing, etc.
Chili's restaurant has been innovating and I read it is faring a lot better than TGI Fridays and Applebees as far as holding down costs and earning profits.
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Also the budget-minded hotels (i.e., at least 4 miles from Panama City's beach) are having problems finding workers: https://www.wjhg.com/2023/10/30/panama-city-hotels-struggling-with-worker-shortages/
These service industries (fast food and budget-minded hotels) need to figure out fast how to innovate to increase productivity. They need to streamline. This means less workers but at much higher compensation, for example. Offer performance bonuses, profit sharing, etc.
Chili's restaurant has been innovating and I read it is faring a lot better than TGI Fridays and Applebees as far as holding down costs and earning profits.
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Misc
2023 Nov 1, 4:50am
Arizona (we've had a huge amount of Californians flee to my state) has gone down California's pathway to madness because the transplants vote in the failed policies they are fleeing from. Arizona raised its minimum wage from $10.50/hr in 2018 to $13.85/hr in 2023. Funny enough that inflation has been high in the rest of the country, but since policy changes don't happen in a vacuum. it has been even higher in Arizona.
So, to combat the scourges of inflation on the vulnerable populations (those 750000 families in the lower income brackets), the Arizona State government in its glorious wisdom has decided to send them "free money". It is going to send them $750 to each family in those lower income brackets, I'm sure that if this causes prices to rise even higher...why even more "free money" will be sent.
So, to combat the scourges of inflation on the vulnerable populations (those 750000 families in the lower income brackets), the Arizona State government in its glorious wisdom has decided to send them "free money". It is going to send them $750 to each family in those lower income brackets, I'm sure that if this causes prices to rise even higher...why even more "free money" will be sent.
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HeadSet
2023 Nov 1, 8:08am
HeadSet
2023 Nov 1, 8:08am
ad says
All business are trying to find way to increase productivity, good times or bad. Telling a business to "increase productivity" is like advising a drowning person "you need to find a way to get some air."
These service industries (fast food and budget-minded hotels) need to figure out fast how to innovate to increase productivity. They need to streamline. This means less workers but at much higher compensation, for example. Offer performance bonuses, profit sharing, etc.
All business are trying to find way to increase productivity, good times or bad. Telling a business to "increase productivity" is like advising a drowning person "you need to find a way to get some air."
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2023 Nov 1, 10:44am
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2023 Nov 1, 10:44am
Economy is slowing down. Less likelihood for another Fed Funds rate hike.
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ISM Manufacturing Plunges to 46.7 Percent. New Orders, Backlogs in Contraction
Economists expected the ISM® manufacturing PMI® to hold steady at 49.0. Instead, it went into significant contraction with a steep drop in employment
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ISM Manufacturing Plunges to 46.7 Percent. New Orders, Backlogs in Contraction
Economists expected the ISM® manufacturing PMI® to hold steady at 49.0. Instead, it went into significant contraction with a steep drop in employment
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2023 Nov 1, 12:30pm
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2023 Nov 1, 12:30pm
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Federal Reserve announced today it is not raising the Fed Funds rate this month. The current rate 5.5% and at a 23 year high.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/11/01/feds-interest-rates-live-updates/71343892007/
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Federal Reserve announced today it is not raising the Fed Funds rate this month. The current rate 5.5% and at a 23 year high.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/11/01/feds-interest-rates-live-updates/71343892007/
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HeadSet
2023 Nov 1, 3:01pm
HeadSet
2023 Nov 1, 3:01pm
ad says
Unfortunate.
Federal Reserve announced today it is not raising the Fed Funds rate this month.
Unfortunate.
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2023 Nov 1, 4:56pm
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2023 Nov 1, 4:56pm
HeadSet says
Not so since there are signs the economy is slowing.
Beside the ISM's recent manufacturing report which shows a slowdown (and trucking industry in a major slump), this is another indicator of a slowing economy:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-27/how-many-jobs-should-i-apply-to-candidates-aim-for-500-in-cooling-labor-market
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Federal Reserve announced today it is not raising the Fed Funds rate this month.
Unfortunate.
Not so since there are signs the economy is slowing.
Beside the ISM's recent manufacturing report which shows a slowdown (and trucking industry in a major slump), this is another indicator of a slowing economy:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-10-27/how-many-jobs-should-i-apply-to-candidates-aim-for-500-in-cooling-labor-market
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Misc
2023 Nov 2, 5:56pm
I've been working out some. I can now carry over $200 groceries from the car to the kitchen in ONE trip.
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2023 Nov 3, 10:33am
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2023 Nov 3, 10:33am
"The US economy added 150,000 jobs in October 2023, undershooting the 180,000 reading expected, with auto industry strikes a factor, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said. The unemployment rate ticked higher to 3.9%." (source: Yahoo Finance)
I forecast CPI for October 2023 will be between 0.15% and 0.3% for last 30 days and 3.2% for last 12 months.
Service jobs market (from car washes to restaurants to hotels) is loosening in Panama City, Florida (compared to last few years).
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I forecast CPI for October 2023 will be between 0.15% and 0.3% for last 30 days and 3.2% for last 12 months.
Service jobs market (from car washes to restaurants to hotels) is loosening in Panama City, Florida (compared to last few years).
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EDIT - numbers drop:
America goes back to the 80s: Surging gas prices and higher rents push inflation to 41-year high of 8.5% as White House blames it on Putin invading Ukraine
The consumer price index rose 8.5% in March from a year ago, the fastest increase since December 1981
Housing costs, which make up about a third of the index, have escalated and show no signs of cooling
Gasoline prices soared 49% in March from a year ago as the war in Ukraine rocked energy markets
Biden's administration tried to get ahead of the dire inflation news by blaming Russian leader Vladimir Putin
But Republicans place the blame for soaring prices on 'Democrats' reckless spending and failed policies'
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