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Misc
2023 Nov 1, 7:03am
Quaint that CNN is calling it a Refugee Camp like it is something new due to the current conflict. It has been there since 1948, is built up with houses, businesses, etc. You can see in one of the pictures that a tunnel or underground bunker was collapsed there.
The IDF does not target civilians. Intent is everything.
The IDF does not target civilians. Intent is everything.
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Nov 1, 7:28am
Tenpoundbass
2023 Nov 1, 7:28am
NuttBoxer says
The problem is Muslims(Arabs) like Jews, never call out their bad apples and they use propaganda to twist any deriding of the bad apples, as an all out assault on the people as a whole. So if that is the premise and rules you set for your people. Then you can't criticize one without criticizing them all.
Unlike Christians, we call out pervy, corrupt, Marxist, and dishonest Priest and Christians all the time. The media makes no distinction between Good Christians, and the bad Christians. In fact there's an all out war against Christianity in all denominations in almost every country around the world. So spare me the fake outrage.
I've worked with Iranian's, Iraqi's, Pakistani's, and I've always found them to be some of the most polite, well mannered people. A lot of you here could stand some lessons from them.
The problem is Muslims(Arabs) like Jews, never call out their bad apples and they use propaganda to twist any deriding of the bad apples, as an all out assault on the people as a whole. So if that is the premise and rules you set for your people. Then you can't criticize one without criticizing them all.
Unlike Christians, we call out pervy, corrupt, Marxist, and dishonest Priest and Christians all the time. The media makes no distinction between Good Christians, and the bad Christians. In fact there's an all out war against Christianity in all denominations in almost every country around the world. So spare me the fake outrage.
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Misc
2023 Nov 1, 7:43am
The Israelis do not want their children to be Martyrs. The Palestinians do. You can see that clearly in the photo with the men with the dead children. It was totally staged with the dead children as props. Know how you can tell? It is because there are no women in the photo. A picture of a grieving mother elicits feelings of sorrow, but a group of men with dead children elicits feelings of revenge, and that is what the Palestinians want to project. For them it is all optics. - Yes, they are a bunch of sick fucks.
Look at the photos in the article.
Look at the photos in the article.
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socal2
2023 Nov 1, 8:26am
Senior Hamas official says over and over again that they will continue murdering and torturing Jews to death until there is no Israel.
What is there left to discuss other than completely destroying Hamas and their supporters?
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1719665588228751481
Useful idiots in the West........."but this is not a real war, Palestinians are in an open air prison!"
What is there left to discuss other than completely destroying Hamas and their supporters?
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1719665588228751481
Useful idiots in the West........."but this is not a real war, Palestinians are in an open air prison!"
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socal2
2023 Nov 1, 8:30am
NuttBoxer says
If Hamas did not want a "real war" thrust upon them, they probably shouldn't have PURPOSEFULLY attacked, tortured, killed and kidnapped thousands of innocent civilians enraging their much stronger next door neighbor.
A real war wouldn't be fought by an advanced military against an area full of mostly children. A real war doesn't start in an area you've blockaded and refused exit to civilians for decades. A real war isn't fought against people where you control their electricity and water. The comparison is ridiculous.
If Hamas did not want a "real war" thrust upon them, they probably shouldn't have PURPOSEFULLY attacked, tortured, killed and kidnapped thousands of innocent civilians enraging their much stronger next door neighbor.
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socal2
2023 Nov 1, 8:32am
NuttBoxer says
Reports that there were several sinkhole collapses and secondary explosions after the Israeli strike from Hamas terrorist tunnels.
https://twitter.com/gaza_report/status/1719363073847308710
Many innocent men, women, and children killed in bombing of Gaza's largest refugee camp, but they got that ONE guy!!
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/31/middleeast/jabalya-blast-gaza-intl/index.html
(See OP title)
Reports that there were several sinkhole collapses and secondary explosions after the Israeli strike from Hamas terrorist tunnels.
https://twitter.com/gaza_report/status/1719363073847308710
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Tenpoundbass
2023 Nov 1, 9:38am
Hamas is threatening a repeat of their October 7th atrocities. Now is the time for the citizens not blood thirsty Terrorists, to stand up and rebuke that threat.
(Hand to Ear)(Crickets Chirping)
If they at least were men among Hamas that fought an honorable fight against their enemies armies, then I could respect them.
And the civilians of Palestine are no better for not calling them out.
Why and how is the Israel forces, undertaking incursions into Palestine unopposed by the Hamas cowards?
They are not a legitimate Army they are terrorists, irregardless who created them.
Tenpoundbass
2023 Nov 1, 9:38am
Hamas is threatening a repeat of their October 7th atrocities. Now is the time for the citizens not blood thirsty Terrorists, to stand up and rebuke that threat.
(Hand to Ear)(Crickets Chirping)
If they at least were men among Hamas that fought an honorable fight against their enemies armies, then I could respect them.
And the civilians of Palestine are no better for not calling them out.
Why and how is the Israel forces, undertaking incursions into Palestine unopposed by the Hamas cowards?
They are not a legitimate Army they are terrorists, irregardless who created them.
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RWSGFY
2023 Nov 1, 3:28pm
RWSGFY
2023 Nov 1, 3:28pm
Hey, NB, pretzel around this:
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1718973338486260097
This is basically an equivalent of taking your child to a shootout with the police while you are wearing a bulletproof vest and your kid doesn't and then crying about "muh police brutality" over her dead body.
Hamas Official Mousa Abu Marzouk: The Tunnels in Gaza Were Built to Protect Hamas Fighters, Not Civilians; Protecting Gaza Civilians Is the Responsibility of the U.N. and Israel
https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1718973338486260097
This is basically an equivalent of taking your child to a shootout with the police while you are wearing a bulletproof vest and your kid doesn't and then crying about "muh police brutality" over her dead body.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2023 Nov 1, 3:45pm
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2023 Nov 1, 3:45pm
If you ever wacthed Clint Eastwood’s Letters from Iwo Jima flick, this may look familiar. Japanese fighters popping up from tunnels to kill US GI’s, except not with RPG’s.
https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1719756956598980928
https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1719756956598980928
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RWSGFY
2023 Nov 1, 4:06pm
RWSGFY
2023 Nov 1, 4:06pm
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
We're not talking about tactical advantages of using unnels for fighting. We're talking about the immorality of NOT building shelters for your own population and then initiating hostilities knowing that inevitable armed response puts them in danger. They openly admit their conscious decision to not build shelters because it's "not their responsibility". These are the people who claim they are the legitimate government of "Palestine".
Ifyou ever wacthed Clint Eastwood’s Letters from Iwo Jima flick, this may look familiar. Japanese fighters popping up from tunnels to kill US GI’s, except not with RPG’s.
https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1719756956598980928
We're not talking about tactical advantages of using unnels for fighting. We're talking about the immorality of NOT building shelters for your own population and then initiating hostilities knowing that inevitable armed response puts them in danger. They openly admit their conscious decision to not build shelters because it's "not their responsibility". These are the people who claim they are the legitimate government of "Palestine".
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 1, 5:28pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 1, 5:28pm
Misc says
So you want to nitpick the naming(because no refugee camps ever last for decades(see SE Asia), and justify murder with a bunker? If there's a terrorist below your house, and US bombs your home, killing your family, totally cool right, because they didn't target civilians? Collateral damage has a new best friend!
Quaint that CNN is calling it a Refugee Camp like it is something new due to the current conflict. It has been there since 1948, is built up with houses, businesses, etc. You can see in one of the pictures that a tunnel or underground bunker was collapsed there.
The IDF does not target civilians. Intent is everything.
So you want to nitpick the naming(because no refugee camps ever last for decades(see SE Asia), and justify murder with a bunker? If there's a terrorist below your house, and US bombs your home, killing your family, totally cool right, because they didn't target civilians? Collateral damage has a new best friend!
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 1, 5:35pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 1, 5:35pm
Tenpoundbass says
You've generalized, and therefore gotten it wrong. Catholics are Christians, and the church has mostly hidden their pedophilia. I happen to know several churches I attended as a kid hid the sins of their pastors rather than addressed them. Church politics is as ugly as it is in DC. I've mentioned a number of Jews who have called out the Israeli government on the atrocities they've committed, not just now, but for a while. Same has happened on the Arab side.
We aren't better because we're Christians, we're just forgiven.
Unlike Christians, we call out pervy, corrupt, Marxist, and dishonest Priest and Christians all the time.
You've generalized, and therefore gotten it wrong. Catholics are Christians, and the church has mostly hidden their pedophilia. I happen to know several churches I attended as a kid hid the sins of their pastors rather than addressed them. Church politics is as ugly as it is in DC. I've mentioned a number of Jews who have called out the Israeli government on the atrocities they've committed, not just now, but for a while. Same has happened on the Arab side.
We aren't better because we're Christians, we're just forgiven.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 1, 5:42pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 1, 5:42pm
Misc says
This is really gross. You see dead kids and harden your heart, looking for an agenda instead of grieving for their loss. What kind of a person tries to rationalize killing children.
I find it disturbing how many sociopathic sympathizers seems to occupy this site. I understand you all may be angry about stolen elections, being ridiculed for being a whilte male, being attacked for family values, seeing your country going down the shitter, people giving into fear, propaganda, and giving themselves over to rage, but I hope you all take some time to carefully consider where you are headed.
This will not end well. It's happened in China, Cambodia, Germany, France, England, Spain, and here. When people give themselves over to such blinding hatred, the end result is always suffering for themselves, and those around them. Step back from the precipice, embrace love instead of hate, forgiveness instead of bitterness. And stop worshipping at the fucking church of government and nationalism.
Pride in your country is great, but not when it comes at the cost of your humanity.
The Israelis do not want their children to be Martyrs. The Palestinians do. You can see that clearly in the photo with the men with the dead children. It was totally staged with the dead children as props. Know how you can tell? It is because there are no women in the photo. A picture of a grieving mother elicits feelings of sorrow, but a group of men with dead children elicits feelings of revenge, and that is what the Palestinians want to project. For them it is all optics. - Yes, they are a bunch of sick fucks.
This is really gross. You see dead kids and harden your heart, looking for an agenda instead of grieving for their loss. What kind of a person tries to rationalize killing children.
I find it disturbing how many sociopathic sympathizers seems to occupy this site. I understand you all may be angry about stolen elections, being ridiculed for being a whilte male, being attacked for family values, seeing your country going down the shitter, people giving into fear, propaganda, and giving themselves over to rage, but I hope you all take some time to carefully consider where you are headed.
This will not end well. It's happened in China, Cambodia, Germany, France, England, Spain, and here. When people give themselves over to such blinding hatred, the end result is always suffering for themselves, and those around them. Step back from the precipice, embrace love instead of hate, forgiveness instead of bitterness. And stop worshipping at the fucking church of government and nationalism.
Pride in your country is great, but not when it comes at the cost of your humanity.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 1, 5:44pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 1, 5:44pm
Tenpoundbass says
You mean the ones getting bombed daily, no homes, no food, no water? I think they're a little busy surviving to take time to make your speech. Good thing you made it for them, one less thing they have to worry about!
Wait, there was a bunch of them who were going to protest Hamas, unfortunately they were in that refugee camp. If only Israel had known...
Now is the time for the citizens not blood thirsty Terrorists, to stand up and rebuke that threat.
(Hand to Ear)(Crickets Chirping)
You mean the ones getting bombed daily, no homes, no food, no water? I think they're a little busy surviving to take time to make your speech. Good thing you made it for them, one less thing they have to worry about!
Wait, there was a bunch of them who were going to protest Hamas, unfortunately they were in that refugee camp. If only Israel had known...
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Misc
2023 Nov 2, 6:14am
NuttBoxer says
You have it exactly right. You look at the video and say, "But...but...but the children."
I look at it and say, "Under-ground, terrorist bunkers in a heavily, urban area. Precision guided bombs took out the Terrorists with minimal civilian casualties."
Do you have any idea what the body count would be if there was un-restricted bombing to take out the terrorists?????- It would probably be over a million dead at this point.
You have it wrong. The Israelis are not the terrorists.
Hamas is, and they have about 30000 members embedded in a population of about 2.4 million people in a dense urban area.
Misc says
Quaint that CNN is calling it a Refugee Camp like it is something new due to the current conflict. It has been there since 1948, is built up with houses, businesses, etc. You can see in one of the pictures that a tunnel or underground bunker was collapsed there.
The IDF does not target civilians. Intent is everything.
So you want to nitpick the naming(because no refugee camps ever last for decades(see SE Asia), and justify murder with a bunker? If there's a terrorist below your house, and US bombs your home, killing your family, totally cool right, because they didn't target civilians? Collateral damage has a new best friend!
You have it exactly right. You look at the video and say, "But...but...but the children."
I look at it and say, "Under-ground, terrorist bunkers in a heavily, urban area. Precision guided bombs took out the Terrorists with minimal civilian casualties."
Do you have any idea what the body count would be if there was un-restricted bombing to take out the terrorists?????
You have it wrong. The Israelis are not the terrorists.
Hamas is, and they have about 30000 members embedded in a population of about 2.4 million people in a dense urban area.
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RayAmerica
2023 Nov 2, 6:34am
RayAmerica
2023 Nov 2, 6:34am
Just a couple of observations:
For the past 5 years or so, a paraglider periodically flies over my property. It's the same type that Hamas used to attack the music festival. I'm guessing that his altitude is probably around 200 feet. He goes by VERY slow. Which leads to this question: With the Gaza surrounded by an Israeli security wall which is heavily manned by the IDF, how was it possible for these slow moving paragliders to make it past all of that security?
Next question: why did it take the IDF 6 HOURS to respond to the attacks???
For the past 5 years or so, a paraglider periodically flies over my property. It's the same type that Hamas used to attack the music festival. I'm guessing that his altitude is probably around 200 feet. He goes by VERY slow. Which leads to this question: With the Gaza surrounded by an Israeli security wall which is heavily manned by the IDF, how was it possible for these slow moving paragliders to make it past all of that security?
Next question: why did it take the IDF 6 HOURS to respond to the attacks???
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 6:40am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 6:40am
Israel government removes post from their social media accusing Gaza of using crises actors. Gotta do something to distract from all the terrorism. At least 10/07 was only one day for Israeli's. Now into our third week of bombing Palestine...
https://twitter.com/mattbinder/status/1719885588566769904
https://twitter.com/mattbinder/status/1719885588566769904
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RayAmerica
2023 Nov 2, 6:42am
RayAmerica
2023 Nov 2, 6:42am
Disclosure: Long ago, I gave up on the Young Turks. I am not a fan at all of Ana Kasparian. Having said that, her take on the manner in which the Israelis are waging war in Gaza is worth the watch:
Ana Kasparian | PBD Podcast | Ep. 320
Discussion of Israel & Gaza begins @ the 1:44 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKxElFQHYzs&t=21s
Ana Kasparian | PBD Podcast | Ep. 320
Discussion of Israel & Gaza begins @ the 1:44 mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKxElFQHYzs&t=21s
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 7:18am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 7:18am
Israel's plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza:
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/leaked-israeli-plan-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1719000849299407012
https://new.thecradle.co/articles/leaked-israeli-plan-to-ethnically-cleanse-gaza
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1719000849299407012
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 7:19am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 7:19am
IDF snipers will shoot you if you try to flee Gaza:
https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1719013143408410803
https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1719013143408410803
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 7:20am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 7:20am
Israeli captives screaming at government to get them out before government bombs kill them all:
https://twitter.com/snarwani/status/1718989371485905325
https://twitter.com/snarwani/status/1718989371485905325
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 7:29am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 2, 7:29am
Destruction of Gaza using map and photos:
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISRAEL-PALESTINIANS/MAPS/zjvqedgdjvx/
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISRAEL-PALESTINIANS/MAPS/zjvqedgdjvx/
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2023 Nov 5, 6:53am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2023 Nov 5, 6:53am
Some buildings in a hospital complex were hit by smart bombs, causing a significant number of casualties. Numerous camera teams, including respectable international agencies and TV networks, were soon on the scene and officials from the targeted side lamented how the aggressors had hit the hospital, protected by international laws of war.
A handful of experienced journalists tried to learn more, sneaking to the far side of the hospital despite the military ban and roadblocks. They found the attacked side’s army hastily extracting its dead and wounded soldiers and radar and missile equipment from the purportedly medical-only facility.
When discovered, the journalists were attacked not just by the soldiers, but also by local civilians who very strongly believed that the international media should only portray them as victims, not as the side misusing the status of protected sites.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/5/analysis-israels-ground-war-in-gaza-could-get-much-bloodier
A handful of experienced journalists tried to learn more, sneaking to the far side of the hospital despite the military ban and roadblocks. They found the attacked side’s army hastily extracting its dead and wounded soldiers and radar and missile equipment from the purportedly medical-only facility.
When discovered, the journalists were attacked not just by the soldiers, but also by local civilians who very strongly believed that the international media should only portray them as victims, not as the side misusing the status of protected sites.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/5/analysis-israels-ground-war-in-gaza-could-get-much-bloodier
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Bd6r
2023 Nov 5, 7:27am
Bd6r
2023 Nov 5, 7:27am
NuttBoxer says
That is an idealized situation which has been proven wrong by history. Warring sides try to inflict suffering on civilian population since the dawn of “civilization”.
Examples: firebombing of Dresden; bombings of Guernica; Rotterdam; Grozny; perhaps Sarajevo. And these are just a few examples that I can remember out of top of my head.
A real war wouldn't be fought by an advanced military against an area full of mostly children. A real war doesn't start in an area you've blockaded and refused exit to civilians for decades. A real war isn't fought against people where you control their electricity and water. The comparison is ridiculous.
That is an idealized situation which has been proven wrong by history. Warring sides try to inflict suffering on civilian population since the dawn of “civilization”.
Examples: firebombing of Dresden; bombings of Guernica; Rotterdam; Grozny; perhaps Sarajevo. And these are just a few examples that I can remember out of top of my head.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 6, 7:45am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 6, 7:45am
So to clarify what I'm saying, the term War is not as accurate as genocide in this instance. If they rounded up two million lets say Irish in the US, put them into prison, just because, then started shooting and bombing then 10 years later, would you call it a war?
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 15, 6:32am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 15, 6:32am
Article claiming Human Rights Watch has refuted claim that Al-Shifa hospital was ever used by Hamas:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/hrw-refutes-israels-claims-finding-no-proof-of-hamas-using-al-shifa-hospital-for-military-purposes/3049803#
You know how I feel about articles with no citations, so I went to HRW website. While I don't see them saying this specifically, they do bring up a number of war crimes currently being committed by Israeli government:
https://www.hrw.org/the-day-in-human-rights/2023/11/13
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/hrw-refutes-israels-claims-finding-no-proof-of-hamas-using-al-shifa-hospital-for-military-purposes/3049803#
You know how I feel about articles with no citations, so I went to HRW website. While I don't see them saying this specifically, they do bring up a number of war crimes currently being committed by Israeli government:
https://www.hrw.org/the-day-in-human-rights/2023/11/13
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socal2
2023 Nov 15, 2:12pm
NuttBoxer says
CGI!
Better keep that AK-47 away from the MRI machine!
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1724864209442189380
Article claiming Human Rights Watch has refuted claim that Al-Shifa hospital was ever used by Hamas:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/hrw-refutes-israels-claims-finding-no-proof-of-hamas-using-al-shifa-hospital-for-military-purposes/3049803#
You know how I feel about articles with no citations, so I went to HRW website. While I don't see them saying this specifically, they do bring up a number of war crimes currently being committed by Israeli government:
https://www.hrw.org/the-day-in-human-rights/2023/11/13
CGI!
Better keep that AK-47 away from the MRI machine!
https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1724864209442189380
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 17, 12:17pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 17, 12:17pm
Everyone has a right to life. And those who would deny it simply based on ethnic or religious grounds are well represented throughout history. You were there when they massacred the Huguenots in France, the Catholics in England, the Christians in Rome. Your thoughts are the thoughts of the Bashir supporters before they invaded Darfur.
Realize where your hatred is taking you before everything good in your life is poisoned by it.
Realize where your hatred is taking you before everything good in your life is poisoned by it.
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socal2
2023 Nov 17, 12:53pm
NuttBoxer says
You are telling that to Gazans - right?
Their genocidal hatred of Jews has gotten them nothing but absolute misery.
How fucking stupid for them to attack Israel in such a barbaric way guaranteeing a massive military response.
Realize where your hatred is taking you before everything good in your life is poisoned by it.
You are telling that to Gazans - right?
Their genocidal hatred of Jews has gotten them nothing but absolute misery.
How fucking stupid for them to attack Israel in such a barbaric way guaranteeing a massive military response.
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Shaman
2023 Nov 17, 2:41pm
Shaman
2023 Nov 17, 2:41pm
The response was the reason they attacked and then scampered back into a rat warren of hostile Islamists. They want mass destruction and mass casualties among their own people.
They breed like rats. If you kill 50,000 of them, they’ll replace that THIS YEAR with just the women who are already pregnant!
And you’ll give the little homies a reason to strap on the bomb vest and go to Tel Aviv disco.
They breed like rats. If you kill 50,000 of them, they’ll replace that THIS YEAR with just the women who are already pregnant!
And you’ll give the little homies a reason to strap on the bomb vest and go to Tel Aviv disco.
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Eric Holder
2023 Nov 17, 3:03pm
Eric Holder
2023 Nov 17, 3:03pm
Soo, let's assume for a moment that it's the "blockade" that caused Hamas to attack Israel on Oct 07. If all they wanted was to lift the blockade why the fuck they didn't attack the border and went into villages and towns instead? They don't have maps and compasses and simply got lost and then assumed that grandmas and toddlers were the Israeli border guards? And why specifically Oct 7, 2023 - what exactly was they running low on?
Let's hear the excuses.
Let's hear the excuses.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 20, 7:49am
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Nov 20, 7:49am
If you did any research into Israel, you'd know they like to start wars on their holy days. I guess that's not the angle you want to hear though, super secure border left unattended, all military pulled back for hours, except the helicopters who shot at everyone fleeing the concert. I know, not the angle you wanted. Forget the government docs planning mass re-settlement of Gaza to Europe and US, forget about all the families and homes IDF destroyed in Israel that day, all excuses to you...
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RWSGFY
2023 Nov 20, 7:59am
RWSGFY
2023 Nov 20, 7:59am
NuttBoxer says
Ok, let's assume for a moment that Israel pulled troops from
the border on purpose. How is this a trigger for attack and beheading of toddlers, unless the other side is pure evil? If Hamas is not a terrorist organization hellbent on killilng Joos and taking whole Israel terrytory and all they wanted is the lifting of blockade on the Egypt border, it shouldn't matter if the border with Israel is guarded heavily, lightly, or at all.
Or are you trying to say now that Israelis infiltrated Gaza, changed into Hamas garb and atacked themselves across their own border? And Hamas was just standing by, wringing their hands helplessly at this treachery and now simply has no choice but take the fall for it because, because...
You realize how loony the whole theory sounds?
If you did any research into Israel, you'd know they like to start wars on their holy days. I guess that's not the angle you want to hear though, super secure border left unattended, all military pulled back for hours, except the helicopters who shot at everyone fleeing the concert. I know, not the angle you wanted. Forget the government docs planning mass re-settlement of Gaza to Europe and US, forget about all the families and homes IDF destroyed in Israel that day, all excuses to you...
Ok, let's assume for a moment that Israel pulled troops from
the border on purpose. How is this a trigger for attack and beheading of toddlers, unless the other side is pure evil? If Hamas is not a terrorist organization hellbent on killilng Joos and taking whole Israel terrytory and all they wanted is the lifting of blockade on the Egypt border, it shouldn't matter if the border with Israel is guarded heavily, lightly, or at all.
Or are you trying to say now that Israelis infiltrated Gaza, changed into Hamas garb and atacked themselves across their own border? And Hamas was just standing by, wringing their hands helplessly at this treachery and now simply has no choice but take the fall for it because, because...
You realize how loony the whole theory sounds?
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I've seen the Zeitgeist stuff and read the people who blame everything on Jews(especially in relation to banking). I don't find it to hold true, but when I see the obvious racism and bigotry on this site, especially in the last few days when it comes to Arabs, I have to re-think how much of a hold Zionist propaganda has on this country. I first became aware of it after 9/11, even before I knew it was a false flag event it bothered me the way people treat Middle Easterner's in this country. I've worked with Iranian's, Iraqi's, Pakistani's, and I've always found them to be some of the most polite, well mannered people. A lot of you here could stand some lessons from them.
From the same keyboards that denounced Ukraine and the violence in South Africa, I now read despicable language used against Arabs. No one wants to touch the stuff I bring up about Israeli government and kids, but you all want to call for actions that will murder more children.
Try re-writing some of your sentences, but insert Jew instead of Muslim, or white. Then read them again. I bet I could translate much of the South Africa talk with that same word change, and get most of you clamoring for more bloodshed to agree with it.
Look at the children in these photos, read the stories of how they died. Some are Israeli, do you find that odd? I don't, the military and governments involved in this are sociopaths, and pedophiles, and don't give a shit about your ethnicity, nationality, loyalty, or age.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-gaza-names-faces-children-killed-bombardment
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-05-21/more-than-70-children-have-been-killed-in-the-israel-palestine-conflict-these-are-their-names-and-faces