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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   368,678 views  4,040 comments

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3461   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 2, 5:27pm  

WookieMan says


He definitely wants out of NATO. He wants the war done, but I don't think it's something he can achieve. Russia is going to occupy Ukraine for a decade. There won't be a permanent resolution to the conflict. Both nations are butt fucking themselves. The human loss isn't trivial on either side. They've fucked themselves for decades.


He'll end the war just like we ended the Vietnam War...pull out. (Which should be super easy to do since we don't have troops, er...'advisors' in satrapy to pull out, right?)

Europe won't pay up enough so that the US match total will do anything. Plus, we can't produce more arms that the Ukeys need, like tanks and ammo/shells. So it doesn't matter what we 'pledge'. Money can only buy what is actually produced.

Ukraine Is Fucked
3462   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 2, 10:14pm  

Ukraine's birth rate is toilet. So is Russia's.

Bringing in Central Asians won't help because their next generation will become 1 and a half child women also, which happened to previous waves of Central Asians immigrating to Russia West of the Urals. Khazakstan has the 2nd highest divorce rate in the world, behind the Maldives which is some kind of weird very mild Islamic resort/trust parking place for funny money.

OrthoBros tout Putin and of course Eastern Orthodoxy as the Saviours of Christendom, but Russia has the highest divorce rate in the world and one of the lowest birthrates, despite tightly regulating American Evango-Charismatic missionaries.


https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/divorce-rates-by-country

Damn, my retarded ass mispelled Atheist.

Fertility rate/child per woman:

Russia 1.6
Ukraine 1.3
Moldova, Belarus 1.3-1.4
Cyprus 1.3
Greece 1.4

Western Schismatics:
Italy 1.3
Austria, Poland 1.5
Ireland 1.7
Spain 1.6

Lutherans
Norway 1.6
Denmark 1.7

General Protestantism
USA 1.7

I leave Sweet Den and Al-France out due to their numbers being ginned up by "New Europeans". Germany and Netherlands and UK too mixed in religion and also ginned up by "New Europeans".

Just more evidence that "The Western MSN lies!!! Therefore RT, MintPress, Middle East Eye, and Muh Edgy influencers are 100% Correct!!!" is a thing, the way they carry on you'd think everything was good or at least a lot less bad in birthrates and marriages there. It's worse, and substantially so.

We live in interesting times.
3463   richwicks   2024 Feb 2, 10:26pm  

AmericanKulak says

Bringing in Central Asians won't help because their next generation will become 1 and a half child women also, which happened to previous waves of Central Asians immigrating to Russia West of the Urals.


The current fertility rate for Russia in 2024 is 1.826 births per woman, a 0.05% increase from 2023.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/RUS/russia/fertility-rate

The current fertility rate for U.S. in 2024 is 1.786 births per woman, a 0.11% increase from 2023.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/fertility-rate
3464   The_Deplorable   2024 Feb 3, 5:48pm  

AmericanKulak says
"Fertility rate/child per woman:"


Kulak, I cannot find the fertility rates in the link with the divorce rates. Do you have another table for the fertility rates?

Thanks
3465   WookieMan   2024 Feb 3, 8:16pm  

They could be fucking and pumping babies out like the world is gonna end. You need men AND women to have babies. Russia is losing both. The birth rate is a dip shit statistic. Sorry. Per capita is a thing. 200k men dying and probably 100k women leaving the country is a good thing?
3467   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 5, 12:07am  

The_Deplorable says


Kulak, I cannot find the fertility rates in the link with the divorce rates. Do you have another table for the fertility rates?


Sorry bud, forgot to put it in.





5 of those have majorities belonging/affilitated with (however nominally) of the Traditional Apostlic Churches, and yes, there's a lot more than just Orthodoxy and Catholic.

There's Church of the East, Oriental Churches, etc. many of which have their own Popes and Anti-Popes and Schisms within. For example, the Church of the East (Nestorian) has an Assyrian and "Regular" Pope right now and hate each other as schismatic false teachers. They haven't been in communion with the False Apostolic Succession of Catholics since 451 and with Orthodoxy since 431 based on those Babylonian Synogugue of Satan Church Councils (at Chalcedon 451 and Ephesus 431).

Something to keep in mind when Proddies are attacked for not having Tradition and Apostolic Succession, that there are Churches dating back before the fall of the Western Roman Empire and have tens of millions or more members that reject both Rome and Byzantium/Moscow.
3468   RayAmerica   2024 Feb 5, 9:22am  




A Senate bill would provide a measly $650 million to continue building a border wall at the United States-Mexico border while Ukraine would be sent $48 billion in American taxpayer money.

The bill, negotiated by Sens. James Lankford (R-OK), Chris Murphy (D-CT), and Kyrsten Sinema (I-AZ), would give Ukraine nearly $50 billion in U.S. tax dollars to defend its borders from Russian invasion.

At the same time, the bill spends just $650 million “to build and reinforce miles and miles of new border wall,” according to Lankford’s office. That funding is likely to build only a couple dozen miles of border wall.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/02/04/senate-bill-gives-ukraine-75x-funding-u-s-border-wall/
3469   Patrick   2024 Feb 5, 12:23pm  

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/brace-for-impact


So, do you really want to chance this Putin guy actually explaining calmly and clearly to folks here how our own State Department cooked up this war in Ukraine, and keeps it going month after month? Figures such as the ex-conservative Bill Kristol (now blob cheerleader), want to prevent the Tucker Carlson satellite from re-entering the USA after its Moscow visit. Mr. Kristol is apparently under the illusion that we are at war with Russia. Somebody please inform him that this is just not so. Strictly speaking, Russia is just another European nation that Americans can visit on a visa. That’s a fact, Jack. And if you happen to be there, and you’re a journalist, and Putin, Putin, Putin agrees to an interview, well. . . you sit down and talk to the guy. . . and record it. . . and let people around the world decide what to think about it.
3470   Eric Holder   2024 Feb 5, 12:30pm  

Ukrainian drones denazified a Lukoil oil refinery in the Krasnoarmeysky District, Volgograd region in the USSR. UP reports the involvement of Ukrainian SBU. It is reported that this refinery is the largest producer of petroleum products in the Southern Federal District of the USSR.


https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1753731500032295043
3471   Eric Holder   2024 Feb 5, 12:38pm  

Patrick says


Strictly speaking, Russia is just another European nation that Americans can visit on a visa.


Correction: another Asian nation that stupid Americans can visit on a visa. Because the chances of getting scooped up on BS charges and spend 3-5 years in Gulag waiting to be exchanged for some KGB fuck are extremely non-trivial.
3472   Eric Holder   2024 Feb 5, 12:44pm  

Oh, noes! Nazis have attacked our other best friend - Chyna - too:

Chinese Defense Minister Dong Jun told Shoigu that the PRC will support Russia on the "Ukrainian issue" despite continuous pressure from the US and Europe.

Earlier, China recognized the Taliban government in Afghanistan.

❗️The masks are off.


https://twitter.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/1752752469841461351

LEAVE POOR DEFENSELESS CHYNA ALONE, YOU DIRTY NAZI BASTARDS!!!

KYIV/BEIJING, Feb 1 (Reuters) - China demanded on Thursday that Ukraine immediately remove more than a dozen Chinese companies from a list of firms designated as "international sponsors of war", saying it wanted Kyiv to "eliminate negative impacts".
The remarks came after Reuters reported that China's ambassador in Kyiv had told senior Ukrainian government officials last month that the inclusion of the companies on the list could hurt bilateral ties.
"China firmly opposes the inclusion of Chinese enterprises in the relevant list and demands that Ukraine immediately correct its mistakes and eliminate negative impacts," a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson told Reuters after the report was published. It did not specify what those impacts may be.


Cucker Tarlson should immediately fly to Peking and sit down with Xi Pingpong to record his calm and collected explaination of this horrible unprovoked aggression against peaceful nation by dirty Joo Nazi regime!
3473   The_Deplorable   2024 Feb 5, 1:14pm  

From Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna of Florida:



3474   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 6, 8:30am  

Eric Holder says

Correction: another Asian nation that stupid Americans can visit on a visa. Because the chances of getting scooped up on BS charges and spend 3-5 years in Gulag waiting to be exchanged for some KGB fuck are extremely non-trivial.


You mean like what happened to Ginzalo Lira?
3475   Patrick   2024 Feb 7, 9:26am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/weekend-at-zelenskys-wednesday-february


In the understated words of one war watcher, Ukraine’s precarious position is “becoming increasingly untenable.” Frankly, it is a disaster. It is a disaster we all knew was coming from the first moment U.S. State Department maven Viktoria Nuland waddled into the fray. It would not even be unreasonable to call the situation ‘apocalyptic,’ since there are (at least) four horsemen of disaster facing Ukraine, all fatal, none resolvable, and every one galloping at full speed towards some kind of grim final conclusion.

The Red Horse—Ukraine is Losing. In what looks like a coalescing global offensive, Russia is attacking all along the contested line, and none of the news anywhere is good news for Ukraine. I don’t monitor the day-to-day village-level news like the warbloggers, but there is a solid consensus that Ukraine is losing everywhere. ...

Ukraine is not winning, anywhere on the battlefield. Which brings us to the next horse.




Unlike Ukraine, Russia has successfully transformed its economy into a growing war economy with strong military manufacturing capability. Russia is now building more artillery shells than the rest of the world combined. But, because it lazily relies on foreign aid for military materiel, Ukraine has not built out much of any military manufacturing infrastructure.

Ukraine took the easy way, and in doing so made itself vulnerable to the vicissitudes of unreliable foreign partners, all of whom have different reasons and politics than Ukraine for being involved. ...

The Times’ non-paywalled article cited above described Zelensky’s latest political trial balloon, which looks like nothing less than a threat of a good-old Soviet-era purge. In other words, Zelensky is facing a large, well-equipped internal enemy, an enemy the media has nominated to be represented by the leader of Ukraine’s armed forces, General Valeriy Zaluzhny.

Now, for Zelensky to survive, like the Trotsky-ites of old, the Zaluzhny-ites must go.

But Zelensky isn’t Stalin, and things aren’t shaping up well for the little proto-dictator. Two weeks ago, Zelensky publicly asked Zaluzhny to resign, and Zaluzhny refused. Zelensky then offered the General money and prestige in the form of his pick of plum assignments, such as the country’s Ambassadorship to Great Britain, if he would step down, and again, Zaluzhny refused.

After back-and-forth headlines for two weeks, on Friday compliant corporate media dutifully reported that President Zelensky had “officially informed” the Biden Administration of Zelensky’s “decision” to give Zaluzhny his walking papers, fired, pink slipped, terminated effective immediately without severance, buh bye.

Well, it’s now Wednesday, and General Zaluzhny remains at the helm of Ukraine’s military, tweeting up a storm from his official offices. Apparently he’s now also refused to be fired, which is nothing less than a soft coup. It may be Zelensky hasn’t yet followed through with termination all the way, or some other politics may be in play, or he simply has no viable replacement for Zaluzhny and didn’t think about that before, but no matter how thinly you slice the situation, it looks terrible for the former comedian.

It has become painfully obvious to the meanest intelligence that General Zaluzhny must be well-protected, enjoying support from a large and politically-powerful cohort within Ukraine’s government, and that Zelensky’s power and ability to form a government has waned to an embarrassingly low point and is more or less in a ditch. Which is probably why Zelensky has now retreated to babbling about a broad “reorganization,” which provides a smokescreen and coward’s cover for why General Zaluzhny is still taking up space in his office.

“A reset, a new beginning is necessary,” Mr. Zelensky ironically told Italian media outlet Rai News on Sunday night. “I have something serious in mind, which is not about a single person but about the direction of the country’s leadership.”

The direction of the country’s leadership. Zelensky seemed oblivious to the fact his quote could be directed right back at him. After all, who represents the country’s leadership more than he does? Maybe Ukraine’s reset and its new beginning need to start where the buck stops — at the penis pianist.

It need hardly be said that the middle of a war — especially a war that’s not going well — is the worst possible time to replace your top general and purge your government of all his supporters. Even mentioning the move smacks of desperation and futility and sinking ships.

The days when it was treason to question the Proxy War have long passed. The United States is also now distracted by its own problems, problems that are right on its own borders, not to mention a newer, younger, more attractive proxy war shaping up in the Middle East. To the neocons, the Middle East is a 22-year-old hot yoga instructor, and Ukraine is a middle-aged divorcee with a psychotic ex-husband, thirteen cats, and three drug-addled grown children who all live at home.

You could even argue the Biden Administration would secretly be happy to dump the Ukraine problem on Republicans, to avoid being tarred with a shameful, inevitable defeat on the battlefield during an election year. In that sense, Team Biden cares not that the S.S. Ukraine is already sinking into the abyss, so long as a late-fired, ‘Republican obstruction’-torpedo catches the blame.

The bottom line is Ukraine is on the ventilator. Russia isn’t waiting around to see whether the Americans will get back to propping the luckless Eastern European country up like a real-life Weekend at Zelensky’s.
3477   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 7, 10:42pm  

Patrick says







And Ukey Nazi Fluffers of PatNet also support that same country.
3478   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 7, 10:42pm  


"Russia’s strategy of avoiding costly breakthrough offensives while building up its combat potential, all while destroying Ukrainian manpower and equipment faster than it can be replaced, has an accumulative effect. This effect will result in the eventual collapse of Ukraine’s fighting capacity, all while Russian fighting capacity continues to expand. What is written off as a “stalemate” by Western analysts because of a current lack of “forward motion” by Russian forces, is actually a deliberate choice by Russian commanders to increase the tactical and strategic advantages Russian forces have on the battlefield ahead of any potential future offensive. Each day this “stalemate” persists, Russia’s prospects, relative to Ukraine, improve.

Nothing about Ukraine’s “successes” in the Black Sea address this fundamental problem and the inevitable outcome it leads to. Ukrainian “successes” simply distract attention away from this inevitability, but cannot prevent it. Russia’s “inaction” in response to these Ukrainian “successes” interpreted as “weakness,” may instead be interpreted as indifference, recognizing that time is on Russia’s side and winning public relations battles is far less important than winning the actual war."


https://journal-neo.su/2024/02/05/ukraines-black-sea-victory-is-a-distraction/
3480   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 8, 11:22am  

AD says


I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.


The CIA will now stage a military coup. Zelensky will be retired to a nice, safe place in the US on our dime. He'll get to keep all the money he stole, too.
3481   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 8, 1:34pm  

UkraineIsFucked says


The CIA will now stage a military coup. Zelensky will be retired to a nice, safe place in the US on our dime. He'll get to keep all the money he stole, too.

Maybe. He might also be Diem'd by the Ukraine Military and the best-funded highest tech intel services in the world won't be able to figure out which Colonel knocked him off on purpose bc they don't want to know, or have a tragic small plane accident.
3482   WookieMan   2024 Feb 8, 1:55pm  

AD says

I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.

What difference does it make? He's getting money and killing Russians. That was the goal. Not saying I agree with it, but understand that Ukraine is a pawn. Russia was always going to get what it wanted. They could have gone about it in a different manner is the issue. Hold gun and point it at your foot. That's what Russia is doing.
3483   Ceffer   2024 Feb 8, 2:00pm  

Now that Putin has strangled and poisoned Tucker live on air, Zelensky is a shoo in for another 20 billion at least.
3484   HeadSet   2024 Feb 8, 7:49pm  

AD says

I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.

Yes, he needs to replace that guy with a woke general.
3485   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 8, 10:15pm  

HeadSet says

AD says


I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.

Yes, he needs to replace that guy with a woke general.




3489   WookieMan   2024 Feb 10, 6:15pm  

HeadSet says

Ukraine is a laundromat.

That and it's showing Russia is a paper tiger. Putin is pissed he hasn't won. He knows what this is. Biden ain't running the show. This is the Pentagon and DOD slapping Russia. We're winning.

Given time we can produce everything we need in this hemisphere. We will let that part of the globe go to shit like it always has. Biden won't win. If Trump does we're in for a decade or prosperity regardless of our debt. We just need to get through this year.
3490   The_Deplorable   2024 Feb 10, 6:23pm  

Scott Ritter on the Carlson - Putin interview:




https://twitter.com/SputnikInt/status/1755812763702644812
3491   richwicks   2024 Feb 10, 8:12pm  

AD says

,,,,,,

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-zelenskyy-replacing-top-general-valerii-zaluzhnyi-to-lead-army/

I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.

.....


I don't see how it matters who is in charge. God himself wouldn't be able to bring Ukraine to victory. You may as well put Victoria Nuland in charge, as she basically is anyhow. Bathe in the incompetence of the US military industrial complex. Fucked up 7 nations in the last 20 years, let's go for 8! And then, we can promote the cunt to Secretary of State!
3492   richwicks   2024 Feb 10, 8:14pm  

WookieMan says

That and it's showing Russia is a paper tiger. Putin is pissed he hasn't won. He knows what this is. Biden ain't running the show. This is the Pentagon and DOD slapping Russia. We're winning.


Sure, the race to irrelevancy, social decay, and civil war. We're sure winning. Now, to get going even faster, let's pick a war with China!
3494   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 11, 9:59pm  

WTF happened?

Ukey Nazi Fluffers said Russia was going to collapse.


3495   WookieMan   2024 Feb 12, 2:42am  

UkraineIsFucked says

WTF happened?

Ukey Nazi Fluffers said Russia was going to collapse.




It's not an overnight thing dude. GDP is up because of the war spending. They're losing men at a productive age for nothing. The back end of this probably in 4-8 years is going to be nasty for Russia. Ukraine has been toast for over a decade anyway. That's nothing new.
3497   stfu   2024 Feb 12, 9:44am  

Patrick says

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - Who Really Profits From The Ukraine War?


Sorry, some of this probably isn't accurate. A quick google mentions that this is sourced from a report that doesn't actually name the "three large US corporations" and the report also corrects itself from 17 million hectares (28% of Ukraines' land) to 1.7 million hectares (2.8% of Ukraines' land).

Further, suggesting that Blackrock OWNS those three big companies is silly. Blackrock is an investment banker. They own shares in those companys, and may even be the largest shareholder, but they are not calling the shots on the day to day running of those companies. Yet who owns Blackrock? We do. If you own any iShares, or have a 401k at work, chances are you own a piece of blackrock.

Also don't confuse Blackrock with Blackstone. Blackstone is the company that buys up housing.

The idea that Blackrock and Vanguard are hell bent on world domination seems a little silly to me.
3498   RayAmerica   2024 Feb 12, 10:18am  

Endless wars update, brought to you by the Uniparty:

Mitch McConnell and Senate RINOs Help Pass Ukraine Funding Package that Includes Language for Automatic Impeachment if Trump Terminates Funding for Ukraine War!

In an unusual session held on Super Bowl Sunday, the US Senate voted to move forward a substantial $95 billion aid package that will support Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan, with no southern border security provisions. The package includes $60 billion for Ukraine and $14 billion for Israel. The vote garnered support from RINOs, with a final tally of 67-27.

According to The Hill, Schumer offered Republicans the chance to vote on amendments in exchange for expediting the legislative process.

“By a vote of 67-27, The Senate invoked cloture on Murray substitute amendment 1388 to H.R.815, legislative vehicle for supplemental appropriations,” the Senate Press Gallery wrote on X.

Sixty-seven senators voted in favor of war funding, while 27 senators opposed the expenditure, all of whom were Republicans.

On Super Bowl Sunday, the following 18 Republican senators supported the Ukraine war funding:

Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)
Bill Cassidy (R-LA)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Joni Ernst (R-IA)
Chuck Grassley (R-IA)
John Kennedy (R-LA)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Markwayne Mullin (R-OK)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Mitt Romney (R-UT)
Mike Rounds (R-SD)
Dan Sullivan (R-AK)
John Thune (R-SD)
Thom Tillis (R-NC)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Todd Young (R-IN)

The legislation passed cloture in a rare Super Bowl Sunday vote.

On Monday morning, Trump-supporting Senator J.D. Vance (R-OH) posted a stunning report on X. According to Senator Vance, the Senate funding package includes language that makes it impossible for President Trump to terminate the Ukraine War funding into his second term.

The language was inserted into the aid package with President Trump in mind. These dirty RINOs and Democrats voted on a bill that will send endless billions to Ukraine no matter how dire the situation is on the ground.

“Buried in the bill’s text is an impeachment time bomb for the next Trump presidency if he tries to stop funding the war in Ukraine. We must vote against this disastrous bill,” Sen. Vance wrote.

And 17 Republican RINOs supported this package!

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/mitch-mcconnell-senate-rinos-help-pass-ukraine-funding/
3499   DemocratsAreTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 12, 1:21pm  

Only the House can imprach, not the Senate.
3500   The_Deplorable   2024 Feb 12, 5:13pm  

John Kirby to the media: Don't Cover This Leak.
Meaning, the blueprints for starting the Ukraine war.



https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1756411956813082770

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