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Greeted like Liberators: Ukraine Invasion Thread


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2022 Feb 23, 8:30pm   436,058 views  4,263 comments

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3474   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Feb 6, 8:30am  

Eric Holder says

Correction: another Asian nation that stupid Americans can visit on a visa. Because the chances of getting scooped up on BS charges and spend 3-5 years in Gulag waiting to be exchanged for some KGB fuck are extremely non-trivial.


You mean like what happened to Ginzalo Lira?
3475   Patrick   2024 Feb 7, 9:26am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/weekend-at-zelenskys-wednesday-february


In the understated words of one war watcher, Ukraine’s precarious position is “becoming increasingly untenable.” Frankly, it is a disaster. It is a disaster we all knew was coming from the first moment U.S. State Department maven Viktoria Nuland waddled into the fray. It would not even be unreasonable to call the situation ‘apocalyptic,’ since there are (at least) four horsemen of disaster facing Ukraine, all fatal, none resolvable, and every one galloping at full speed towards some kind of grim final conclusion.

The Red Horse—Ukraine is Losing. In what looks like a coalescing global offensive, Russia is attacking all along the contested line, and none of the news anywhere is good news for Ukraine. I don’t monitor the day-to-day village-level news like the warbloggers, but there is a solid consensus that Ukraine is losing everywhere. ...

Ukraine is not winning, anywhere on the battlefield. Which brings us to the next horse.




Unlike Ukraine, Russia has successfully transformed its economy into a growing war economy with strong military manufacturing capability. Russia is now building more artillery shells than the rest of the world combined. But, because it lazily relies on foreign aid for military materiel, Ukraine has not built out much of any military manufacturing infrastructure.

Ukraine took the easy way, and in doing so made itself vulnerable to the vicissitudes of unreliable foreign partners, all of whom have different reasons and politics than Ukraine for being involved. ...

The Times’ non-paywalled article cited above described Zelensky’s latest political trial balloon, which looks like nothing less than a threat of a good-old Soviet-era purge. In other words, Zelensky is facing a large, well-equipped internal enemy, an enemy the media has nominated to be represented by the leader of Ukraine’s armed forces, General Valeriy Zaluzhny.

Now, for Zelensky to survive, like the Trotsky-ites of old, the Zaluzhny-ites must go.

But Zelensky isn’t Stalin, and things aren’t shaping up well for the little proto-dictator. Two weeks ago, Zelensky publicly asked Zaluzhny to resign, and Zaluzhny refused. Zelensky then offered the General money and prestige in the form of his pick of plum assignments, such as the country’s Ambassadorship to Great Britain, if he would step down, and again, Zaluzhny refused.

After back-and-forth headlines for two weeks, on Friday compliant corporate media dutifully reported that President Zelensky had “officially informed” the Biden Administration of Zelensky’s “decision” to give Zaluzhny his walking papers, fired, pink slipped, terminated effective immediately without severance, buh bye.

Well, it’s now Wednesday, and General Zaluzhny remains at the helm of Ukraine’s military, tweeting up a storm from his official offices. Apparently he’s now also refused to be fired, which is nothing less than a soft coup. It may be Zelensky hasn’t yet followed through with termination all the way, or some other politics may be in play, or he simply has no viable replacement for Zaluzhny and didn’t think about that before, but no matter how thinly you slice the situation, it looks terrible for the former comedian.

It has become painfully obvious to the meanest intelligence that General Zaluzhny must be well-protected, enjoying support from a large and politically-powerful cohort within Ukraine’s government, and that Zelensky’s power and ability to form a government has waned to an embarrassingly low point and is more or less in a ditch. Which is probably why Zelensky has now retreated to babbling about a broad “reorganization,” which provides a smokescreen and coward’s cover for why General Zaluzhny is still taking up space in his office.

“A reset, a new beginning is necessary,” Mr. Zelensky ironically told Italian media outlet Rai News on Sunday night. “I have something serious in mind, which is not about a single person but about the direction of the country’s leadership.”

The direction of the country’s leadership. Zelensky seemed oblivious to the fact his quote could be directed right back at him. After all, who represents the country’s leadership more than he does? Maybe Ukraine’s reset and its new beginning need to start where the buck stops — at the penis pianist.

It need hardly be said that the middle of a war — especially a war that’s not going well — is the worst possible time to replace your top general and purge your government of all his supporters. Even mentioning the move smacks of desperation and futility and sinking ships.

The days when it was treason to question the Proxy War have long passed. The United States is also now distracted by its own problems, problems that are right on its own borders, not to mention a newer, younger, more attractive proxy war shaping up in the Middle East. To the neocons, the Middle East is a 22-year-old hot yoga instructor, and Ukraine is a middle-aged divorcee with a psychotic ex-husband, thirteen cats, and three drug-addled grown children who all live at home.

You could even argue the Biden Administration would secretly be happy to dump the Ukraine problem on Republicans, to avoid being tarred with a shameful, inevitable defeat on the battlefield during an election year. In that sense, Team Biden cares not that the S.S. Ukraine is already sinking into the abyss, so long as a late-fired, ‘Republican obstruction’-torpedo catches the blame.

The bottom line is Ukraine is on the ventilator. Russia isn’t waiting around to see whether the Americans will get back to propping the luckless Eastern European country up like a real-life Weekend at Zelensky’s.
3477   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Feb 7, 10:42pm  

Patrick says







And Ukey Nazi Fluffers of PatNet also support that same country.
3478   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Feb 7, 10:42pm  


"Russia’s strategy of avoiding costly breakthrough offensives while building up its combat potential, all while destroying Ukrainian manpower and equipment faster than it can be replaced, has an accumulative effect. This effect will result in the eventual collapse of Ukraine’s fighting capacity, all while Russian fighting capacity continues to expand. What is written off as a “stalemate” by Western analysts because of a current lack of “forward motion” by Russian forces, is actually a deliberate choice by Russian commanders to increase the tactical and strategic advantages Russian forces have on the battlefield ahead of any potential future offensive. Each day this “stalemate” persists, Russia’s prospects, relative to Ukraine, improve.

Nothing about Ukraine’s “successes” in the Black Sea address this fundamental problem and the inevitable outcome it leads to. Ukrainian “successes” simply distract attention away from this inevitability, but cannot prevent it. Russia’s “inaction” in response to these Ukrainian “successes” interpreted as “weakness,” may instead be interpreted as indifference, recognizing that time is on Russia’s side and winning public relations battles is far less important than winning the actual war."


https://journal-neo.su/2024/02/05/ukraines-black-sea-victory-is-a-distraction/
3480   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Feb 8, 11:22am  

AD says


I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.


The CIA will now stage a military coup. Zelensky will be retired to a nice, safe place in the US on our dime. He'll get to keep all the money he stole, too.
3481   AmericanKulak   2024 Feb 8, 1:34pm  

UkraineIsFucked says


The CIA will now stage a military coup. Zelensky will be retired to a nice, safe place in the US on our dime. He'll get to keep all the money he stole, too.

Maybe. He might also be Diem'd by the Ukraine Military and the best-funded highest tech intel services in the world won't be able to figure out which Colonel knocked him off on purpose bc they don't want to know, or have a tragic small plane accident.
3482   WookieMan   2024 Feb 8, 1:55pm  

AD says

I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.

What difference does it make? He's getting money and killing Russians. That was the goal. Not saying I agree with it, but understand that Ukraine is a pawn. Russia was always going to get what it wanted. They could have gone about it in a different manner is the issue. Hold gun and point it at your foot. That's what Russia is doing.
3483   Ceffer   2024 Feb 8, 2:00pm  

Now that Putin has strangled and poisoned Tucker live on air, Zelensky is a shoo in for another 20 billion at least.
3484   HeadSet   2024 Feb 8, 7:49pm  

AD says

I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.

Yes, he needs to replace that guy with a woke general.
3485   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Feb 8, 10:15pm  

HeadSet says

AD says


I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.

Yes, he needs to replace that guy with a woke general.




3489   WookieMan   2024 Feb 10, 6:15pm  

HeadSet says

Ukraine is a laundromat.

That and it's showing Russia is a paper tiger. Putin is pissed he hasn't won. He knows what this is. Biden ain't running the show. This is the Pentagon and DOD slapping Russia. We're winning.

Given time we can produce everything we need in this hemisphere. We will let that part of the globe go to shit like it always has. Biden won't win. If Trump does we're in for a decade or prosperity regardless of our debt. We just need to get through this year.
3490   The_Deplorable   2024 Feb 10, 6:23pm  

Scott Ritter on the Carlson - Putin interview:




https://twitter.com/SputnikInt/status/1755812763702644812
3491   richwicks   2024 Feb 10, 8:12pm  

AD says

,,,,,,

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-zelenskyy-replacing-top-general-valerii-zaluzhnyi-to-lead-army/

I think Zelensky is making a big mistake.

.....


I don't see how it matters who is in charge. God himself wouldn't be able to bring Ukraine to victory. You may as well put Victoria Nuland in charge, as she basically is anyhow. Bathe in the incompetence of the US military industrial complex. Fucked up 7 nations in the last 20 years, let's go for 8! And then, we can promote the cunt to Secretary of State!
3492   richwicks   2024 Feb 10, 8:14pm  

WookieMan says

That and it's showing Russia is a paper tiger. Putin is pissed he hasn't won. He knows what this is. Biden ain't running the show. This is the Pentagon and DOD slapping Russia. We're winning.


Sure, the race to irrelevancy, social decay, and civil war. We're sure winning. Now, to get going even faster, let's pick a war with China!
3494   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Feb 11, 9:59pm  

WTF happened?

Ukey Nazi Fluffers said Russia was going to collapse.


3495   WookieMan   2024 Feb 12, 2:42am  

UkraineIsFucked says

WTF happened?

Ukey Nazi Fluffers said Russia was going to collapse.




It's not an overnight thing dude. GDP is up because of the war spending. They're losing men at a productive age for nothing. The back end of this probably in 4-8 years is going to be nasty for Russia. Ukraine has been toast for over a decade anyway. That's nothing new.
3497   stfu   2024 Feb 12, 9:44am  

Patrick says

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - Who Really Profits From The Ukraine War?


Sorry, some of this probably isn't accurate. A quick google mentions that this is sourced from a report that doesn't actually name the "three large US corporations" and the report also corrects itself from 17 million hectares (28% of Ukraines' land) to 1.7 million hectares (2.8% of Ukraines' land).

Further, suggesting that Blackrock OWNS those three big companies is silly. Blackrock is an investment banker. They own shares in those companys, and may even be the largest shareholder, but they are not calling the shots on the day to day running of those companies. Yet who owns Blackrock? We do. If you own any iShares, or have a 401k at work, chances are you own a piece of blackrock.

Also don't confuse Blackrock with Blackstone. Blackstone is the company that buys up housing.

The idea that Blackrock and Vanguard are hell bent on world domination seems a little silly to me.
3498   RayAmerica   2024 Feb 12, 10:18am  

Endless wars update, brought to you by the Uniparty:

Mitch McConnell and Senate RINOs Help Pass Ukraine Funding Package that Includes Language for Automatic Impeachment if Trump Terminates Funding for Ukraine War!

In an unusual session held on Super Bowl Sunday, the US Senate voted to move forward a substantial $95 billion aid package that will support Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan, with no southern border security provisions. The package includes $60 billion for Ukraine and $14 billion for Israel. The vote garnered support from RINOs, with a final tally of 67-27.

According to The Hill, Schumer offered Republicans the chance to vote on amendments in exchange for expediting the legislative process.

“By a vote of 67-27, The Senate invoked cloture on Murray substitute amendment 1388 to H.R.815, legislative vehicle for supplemental appropriations,” the Senate Press Gallery wrote on X.

Sixty-seven senators voted in favor of war funding, while 27 senators opposed the expenditure, all of whom were Republicans.

On Super Bowl Sunday, the following 18 Republican senators supported the Ukraine war funding:

Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)
Bill Cassidy (R-LA)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Joni Ernst (R-IA)
Chuck Grassley (R-IA)
John Kennedy (R-LA)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Jerry Moran (R-KS)
Markwayne Mullin (R-OK)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Mitt Romney (R-UT)
Mike Rounds (R-SD)
Dan Sullivan (R-AK)
John Thune (R-SD)
Thom Tillis (R-NC)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Todd Young (R-IN)

The legislation passed cloture in a rare Super Bowl Sunday vote.

On Monday morning, Trump-supporting Senator J.D. Vance (R-OH) posted a stunning report on X. According to Senator Vance, the Senate funding package includes language that makes it impossible for President Trump to terminate the Ukraine War funding into his second term.

The language was inserted into the aid package with President Trump in mind. These dirty RINOs and Democrats voted on a bill that will send endless billions to Ukraine no matter how dire the situation is on the ground.

“Buried in the bill’s text is an impeachment time bomb for the next Trump presidency if he tries to stop funding the war in Ukraine. We must vote against this disastrous bill,” Sen. Vance wrote.

And 17 Republican RINOs supported this package!

More here: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/mitch-mcconnell-senate-rinos-help-pass-ukraine-funding/
3499   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Feb 12, 1:21pm  

Only the House can imprach, not the Senate.
3500   The_Deplorable   2024 Feb 12, 5:13pm  

John Kirby to the media: Don't Cover This Leak.
Meaning, the blueprints for starting the Ukraine war.



https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1756411956813082770
3503   Patrick   2024 Feb 12, 7:53pm  

The_Deplorable says

John Kirby to the media: Don't Cover This Leak.
Meaning, the blueprints for starting the Ukraine war.



https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1756411956813082770



3504   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Feb 13, 10:46am  

Looks like Ukrainian's aren't down with dying in someone else's war. Sources are WAPO, and NY Times, and Twitter:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-anti-conscription-protests-emerge-zelensky-hunts-manpower
3505   RayAmerica   2024 Feb 13, 11:02am  

On to the House! Military Industrial Complex and the Warmongers WIN Again! (and not one penny towards securing our border)

Putin and Xi will regret challenging America – US Senate leader

Chuck Schumer has rejoiced following a vote to continue funding the Ukraine conflict
American senators from both parties coming out in support of aid for Ukraine and Israel is a powerful signal to Russia and China, as well as Washington’s allies, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said on Tuesday.

The 100-member chamber approved the $95 billion “national security” funding bill with 70 votes in favor and 29 opposed. Eight Republican senators spent most of the night filibustering against the proposal.

“Today we make [Russian President] Vladimir Putin regret the day he questioned America’s resolve, and we make clear to others, like China’s President Xi [Jinping], not to test our determination,” Schumer said in a speech after the vote. “And we send a clear, bipartisan message of resolve to our allies in NATO.”

Schumer also praised the passage of the bill as greatly impacting “the security of Western democracy.”

The Senate bill would give Ukraine $61 billion in aid, as well as $14 billion to Israel for its war against Hamas, and almost $5 billion for arming Taiwan. The White House originally bundled it with a “border reform” proposal but proceeded with foreign aid only after Democrats and Republicans could not agree on immigration.
https://www.rt.com/news/592386-democrat-schumer-hailed-ukrainian-aid-passage/
3506   Patrick   2024 Feb 13, 12:52pm  

https://medium.com/@deborahlarmstrong/human-beings-disassembled-like-legos-faab1e19ef41


In part one of this series, we heard from a Syrian medical student who said that he had personally harvested organs from Ukrainian soldiers and from civilians who did not always give their permission and were not always suffering from life-threatening injuries. We also heard from a former officer of the Security Services of Ukraine (SBU) who was assigned to guard the “black transplantologists” as they traveled from one war-torn town to another, harvesting organs. ...

The three videos featured in part one were all in Russian, and Russian media was quoted throughout the article. It’s your choice to believe what you see or dismiss it as propaganda. But you may also want to consider the following.

Sonja Van den Ende, a Dutch journalist who reports regularly from the war-torn Donbass region, has also written extensively about organ harvesting in Ukraine. Her most recent article appeared on Devend Online on January 9th of this year, just three days after mine. It was titled, “Ukrainian Front-line Soldiers or Guinea Pigs for the West?” ...

It was then reported in Russian media that at least a third of Ukrainian soldiers were “missing in action” (MIA) because the Ukrainian military was unable or unwilling to properly collect the dead and register them as having died in combat. Additionally, it was reported that Ukrainians were actively cremating bodies in the field. This means that the actual numbers of casualties can be kept hidden and compensation to next of kin can be delayed or avoided completely and, instead, shared among officers and senior military officials.

The thousands of dying or freshly dead Ukrainian soldiers not properly accounted must have been a feast which the so-called “black transplantologists” could not refuse, and so they allegedly flocked in from all over Europe to reap the harvest of illegal organs and other body parts. After all, a patient who is in desperate need of a heart, or a kidney, or another vital organ is unlikely to ask about its origins. ...

When he was asked what Ukraine does with the bodies, Ovchinsky replied, “They burn them. Nobody cancelled the experience of Auschwitz or, say, Dachau. And the Banderites are direct heirs of Hitler. There is information about mobile crematoriums to destroy the remains of people whose organs are removed.” ...

It also seems apparent that the rank-and-file Ukrainian military is not directly involved in the organ harvests, which are performed without permission and often in secret, according to the testimonies we read. Those doing the harvesting appear to swoop in from foreign countries like vultures whenever there is a conflict.

It makes sense. War, after all, is more about money than it is about “freedom” or “democracy,” no matter how patriotic the pundits may sound when they raise their battle cry. Weapons manufacturers and military contractors make untold billions from wars, so why shouldn’t the healthcare industry, or at least its dark underbelly, also make a profit?
3508   richwicks   2024 Feb 13, 6:10pm  

Patrick says





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3509   WookieMan   2024 Feb 13, 6:20pm  

NuttBoxer says


Looks like Ukrainian's aren't down with dying in someone else's war. Sources are WAPO, and NY Times, and Twitter:

This has been known for quite some time. Not new. And is an obvious reaction. Easter European and Russians are generally dumb, but not dumb enough to think they'll "win." This is a stalemate war that might go on for another 5-8 years. Maybe even longer. This is WWI type fighting trench warfare style.

They're just going to shoot at each other and lob artillery for the next several years. 20-50 will get wounded or killed a day. Russia could have manhandle this in a week but for whatever reason they can't. They have air superiority. They had ships that should have been able to strike inland. None of it worked. Ukrainians are literal sitting ducks. It's less about the funding going to Ukraine. It's Russian weakness.
3510   socal2   2024 Feb 14, 8:49am  

Ukraine sinks Russia’s Ceasar Kunikov warship in the Black Sea using Magura boat drones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYncD-yjoQc
3511   Onvacation   2024 Feb 16, 8:15pm  

KERRY ADMITS TO UA COUP: 'ALL IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WERE WORKING TO REMOVE THE UA PROSECUTOR'

Bunch of Grifters.
3513   Ceffer   2024 Feb 17, 11:55am  

They're drugged.



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