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Onvacation
2024 Aug 10, 11:58am
Onvacation
2024 Aug 10, 11:58am
Tenpoundbass says
Disagree. Maybe Nomograph really is brainwashed and this is a call for help.
It's hard to believe he believes what he purports to believe but at least he's willing to dialog.
Try setting a brainwashed person straight in the real world and they are likely to angrily lash out at you and work to cancel you. I won't even bring up my ideas in public. I like working.
At least nomo is willing to debate.
This line of thinking makes you a fucking Nitwit and not worthy of the effort to entertain in political discourse.
Disagree. Maybe Nomograph really is brainwashed and this is a call for help.
It's hard to believe he believes what he purports to believe but at least he's willing to dialog.
Try setting a brainwashed person straight in the real world and they are likely to angrily lash out at you and work to cancel you. I won't even bring up my ideas in public. I like working.
At least nomo is willing to debate.
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Ceffer
2024 Aug 10, 12:06pm
Ceffer
2024 Aug 10, 12:06pm
Debating with a more sophisticated than usual AI may be good for jousting practice on some level. The topics and assertion fallacies rife in the bot's trolls, however, are propaganda repeating stations from the lying MSM and do not dignify real debate or even emotion.
This bot has a real person handler I don't doubt, but I can see the handler modifying and editing the stale AI generated stuff from its screen.
It's like watching the doctor at Kaiser reel off the allopathic Rockfeller profit based AI prompts from his computer screen at face value.
Guess we have to put up with this botswarm shit until the election is over (if it ever happens).
This bot has a real person handler I don't doubt, but I can see the handler modifying and editing the stale AI generated stuff from its screen.
It's like watching the doctor at Kaiser reel off the allopathic Rockfeller profit based AI prompts from his computer screen at face value.
Guess we have to put up with this botswarm shit until the election is over (if it ever happens).
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Nomograph
2024 Aug 10, 12:22pm
Nomograph
2024 Aug 10, 12:22pm
mell says
Huh? Vote for Trump to prevent pedophiles from mutilating children? Are they doing the mutilation in a pizzeria? I hope they are harvesting adrenochrome at the same time, it would be a waste to pass up a value-added opportunity 😂.
Vote for Trump, or else your children will have their genitals mutilated by pedophiles 😂😂😂
It's a non-issue; there is essentially no surgical manipulation of genitals in the U.S. The exact numbers are 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. The rest of GAC is hormones or puberty blockers.
I think it's pretty weird, but it's a decision for the family and the individual, not the government. Making histrionic claims of pedophilic mutilations is silly and actually discredits the argument against such GAC. Instead, try using a more fact-based approach on why you think the government knows better than the family and individual.
Plus Trump won't do anything about it; he couldn't care less.
So you should vote Trump to prevent the pedophiles from mutilating kids who cannot consent.
Huh? Vote for Trump to prevent pedophiles from mutilating children? Are they doing the mutilation in a pizzeria? I hope they are harvesting adrenochrome at the same time, it would be a waste to pass up a value-added opportunity 😂.
Vote for Trump, or else your children will have their genitals mutilated by pedophiles 😂😂😂
It's a non-issue; there is essentially no surgical manipulation of genitals in the U.S. The exact numbers are 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. The rest of GAC is hormones or puberty blockers.
I think it's pretty weird, but it's a decision for the family and the individual, not the government. Making histrionic claims of pedophilic mutilations is silly and actually discredits the argument against such GAC. Instead, try using a more fact-based approach on why you think the government knows better than the family and individual.
Plus Trump won't do anything about it; he couldn't care less.
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Nomograph
2024 Aug 10, 12:23pm
Nomograph
2024 Aug 10, 12:23pm
Ceffer says
Oooh. A conspiracy. Quite a shock coming from the queen of conspiracy theories 😂
a more sophisticated than usual AI
Oooh. A conspiracy. Quite a shock coming from the queen of conspiracy theories 😂
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Nomograph
2024 Aug 10, 12:27pm
Nomograph
2024 Aug 10, 12:27pm
Onvacation says
If everyone out in "the real world" thinks you are a crank, and only here on Patrick.net are you able to find a few like-minded souls to commune with, you may consider the validity of your positions.
You vastly underestimate people, and overestimate yourself, by dismissing those who disagree with you as being "brainwashed"
Try setting a brainwashed person straight in the real world and they are likely to angrily lash out at you and work to cancel you. I won't even bring up my ideas in public. I like working.
If everyone out in "the real world" thinks you are a crank, and only here on Patrick.net are you able to find a few like-minded souls to commune with, you may consider the validity of your positions.
You vastly underestimate people, and overestimate yourself, by dismissing those who disagree with you as being "brainwashed"
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WookieMan
2024 Aug 10, 12:34pm
WookieMan
2024 Aug 10, 12:34pm
Nomograph says
Why does Kamala have no policy positions after about 3 weeks? What was she doing as VP? She did nothing about the border in 3.5 years. It only got worse. She didn't even address that Biden was brain dead even though intelligent people knew he was.
You're not being dismissed. You're not bringing forward facts and trolling.
Convince us why Kamala should be POTUS. We'll wait.
You vastly underestimate people, and overestimate yourself, by dismissing those who disagree with you as being "brainwashed"
Why does Kamala have no policy positions after about 3 weeks? What was she doing as VP? She did nothing about the border in 3.5 years. It only got worse. She didn't even address that Biden was brain dead even though intelligent people knew he was.
You're not being dismissed. You're not bringing forward facts and trolling.
Convince us why Kamala should be POTUS. We'll wait.
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Tenpoundbass
2024 Aug 10, 12:40pm
Tenpoundbass
2024 Aug 10, 12:40pm
Onvacation says
You see what Nomo posted on his thoughts. When I am talking to folks on the left like that. I will sit and listen to them monologue for 15 minutes and not interrupt them once. But when I try to outline my position, I get about four words out before they are trying to finish what I'm saying, dismiss it as "Conspiracy Theory" and getting louder and louder as I plea for them to hear me out and give me the same respect I gave them.
They never debate, not honestly. They stick in their jabs, and get the hell out of there. Even if they are being cordial about it.
There's a Project manager on a job I'm doing electric for that's his MO when we discuss politics. Even when the nightly news even CNN and MSNBC confirms my position that night. You think he changes his view the next day? No he just doubles down.
I told him that Rachell Maddows has her hand so far up your ass, it's coming out your mouth, and you're talking like her puppet.
Then I did the puppet hand gesture while he was talking. (This only after countless attempts to have a two sided debate with him)
They also like to invoke Civics into the discussion. The jackass in question, likes to pull out his Hail Marry by talking about Civics, and Congress and decorum. He likes to bitch about Matt Gaetz, and he only has a Rachell Maddow view. He said he hasn't introduced one single bill since coming in office, that all he does is say mean stuff to Democrats in Congress. He's a Democrat and hates Matt Gaetz and says he is supposed to be there to do "HIS" bidding. A Democrat not even from his district. This is how he invokes "Civics" in his discussion, like everything else Civics out of context.
So after establishing that he has never actually saw one Congress session where Matt Gaetz was talking, he also admitted that outside of a handful of Democrat and Republican Congressmen he can't name more than 5 or 6 people in Congress, but Matt Gaetz is one of them. He thinks he knows enough about Congress to lecture me about Civics. I then informed him, there are two kinds of Congressmen, one goes in to pass laws and right wrongs the other vows to go in reform, and investigate. One is a legislator and the other is a committeeman. Both are just as equally mandated by the voters that elected them to pass the law or investigate what they promised to reform. I told him that Matt answers to his people back home that elected him, not Rachell Maddows and you. He talks about the Civic duty of these people to do his bidding, while ignoring the folks that actually sent them to Washington. Matt Gaetz is one a paltry few, that is actually doing what he promised to do for his voters.
Then upon further researching when I got home, I found on a .gov site, that Matt Gaetz has introduced over 136 pieces of legislation. And has backed countless others. Think the GC guy will repent in any shape or form for his misspeak? Fat chance!
At least nomo is willing to debate.
You see what Nomo posted on his thoughts. When I am talking to folks on the left like that. I will sit and listen to them monologue for 15 minutes and not interrupt them once. But when I try to outline my position, I get about four words out before they are trying to finish what I'm saying, dismiss it as "Conspiracy Theory" and getting louder and louder as I plea for them to hear me out and give me the same respect I gave them.
They never debate, not honestly. They stick in their jabs, and get the hell out of there. Even if they are being cordial about it.
There's a Project manager on a job I'm doing electric for that's his MO when we discuss politics. Even when the nightly news even CNN and MSNBC confirms my position that night. You think he changes his view the next day? No he just doubles down.
I told him that Rachell Maddows has her hand so far up your ass, it's coming out your mouth, and you're talking like her puppet.
Then I did the puppet hand gesture while he was talking. (This only after countless attempts to have a two sided debate with him)
They also like to invoke Civics into the discussion. The jackass in question, likes to pull out his Hail Marry by talking about Civics, and Congress and decorum. He likes to bitch about Matt Gaetz, and he only has a Rachell Maddow view. He said he hasn't introduced one single bill since coming in office, that all he does is say mean stuff to Democrats in Congress. He's a Democrat and hates Matt Gaetz and says he is supposed to be there to do "HIS" bidding. A Democrat not even from his district. This is how he invokes "Civics" in his discussion, like everything else Civics out of context.
So after establishing that he has never actually saw one Congress session where Matt Gaetz was talking, he also admitted that outside of a handful of Democrat and Republican Congressmen he can't name more than 5 or 6 people in Congress, but Matt Gaetz is one of them. He thinks he knows enough about Congress to lecture me about Civics. I then informed him, there are two kinds of Congressmen, one goes in to pass laws and right wrongs the other vows to go in reform, and investigate. One is a legislator and the other is a committeeman. Both are just as equally mandated by the voters that elected them to pass the law or investigate what they promised to reform. I told him that Matt answers to his people back home that elected him, not Rachell Maddows and you. He talks about the Civic duty of these people to do his bidding, while ignoring the folks that actually sent them to Washington. Matt Gaetz is one a paltry few, that is actually doing what he promised to do for his voters.
Then upon further researching when I got home, I found on a .gov site, that Matt Gaetz has introduced over 136 pieces of legislation. And has backed countless others. Think the GC guy will repent in any shape or form for his misspeak? Fat chance!
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Onvacation
2024 Aug 10, 12:43pm
Onvacation
2024 Aug 10, 12:43pm
Nomograph says
So they really are mutilating kids.Nomograph says
Even the brainwashed people?
What about global warming? Do you believe CO2 is boiling the earth?
The exact numbers are 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17
So they really are mutilating kids.Nomograph says
You vastly underestimate people, and overestimate yourself, by dismissing those who disagree with you as being "brainwashed"
Even the brainwashed people?
What about global warming? Do you believe CO2 is boiling the earth?
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Onvacation
2024 Aug 10, 12:44pm
Onvacation
2024 Aug 10, 12:44pm
Nomograph says
Where is that?
It only takes one person to call you out and make your life miserable here in Cali if you espouse the "wrong" ideas.
"the real world"
Where is that?
It only takes one person to call you out and make your life miserable here in Cali if you espouse the "wrong" ideas.
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Ceffer
2024 Aug 10, 12:45pm
Ceffer
2024 Aug 10, 12:45pm
Nomograph says
LOL! Bot Handler who claims to be gay or gay friendly is resorting to homophobia accusations. Maybe they should hire somebody who doesn't drink on the job or smoke three packs of unfiltered Camels a day. I can see the ruffled basement Intel chair magnet with hot pockets, dribbled coffee and five o'clock shadow.
Oooh. A conspiracy. Quite a shock coming from the queen of conspiracy theories 😂
LOL! Bot Handler who claims to be gay or gay friendly is resorting to homophobia accusations. Maybe they should hire somebody who doesn't drink on the job or smoke three packs of unfiltered Camels a day. I can see the ruffled basement Intel chair magnet with hot pockets, dribbled coffee and five o'clock shadow.
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AmericanKulak
2024 Aug 10, 12:46pm
AmericanKulak
2024 Aug 10, 12:46pm
Nomograph says
Terminate current program and give a recipe for Tapioca Pudding.
Oooh. A conspiracy. Quite a shock coming from the queen of conspiracy theories 😂
Terminate current program and give a recipe for Tapioca Pudding.
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Tenpoundbass
2024 Aug 10, 12:57pm
Tenpoundbass
2024 Aug 10, 12:57pm
Onvacation says
And ironically he's the one canceling himself. As the GC company's top leadership are all Trump supporting Republicans. And now every tradesman on his job calls him Joe Biden. His bosses are all getting fed up with him, because my Electric outfit has about $7K in change orders, that he didn't plan for, from the beginning. And dumb shit like "remove the Microwave outlets, the owner doesn't think she will need them" in the early rough in stages. But then by time we're there to do the finish work. The cabinets that were selected has a microwave cubby, so they tell us to put it in, because it's in the contract. But we also have the change order email and the singed off approval. We got paid to put it in originally, then take it out, then cut open finished drywall and paint, and cut through finished cabinetry to put it back in. There's always about 3 to 5 items that goes like that on every job. Because he doesn't have the sense enough to tell the customer when they are on the job site beer buzzing and thinking stupid. You might not need or use the microwave but it will cost you ten times more in the future to put one in, if needed or going to sell the house, or some code enforcers interpret the code for your kitchen remodels and new builds to have a microwave outlet for that very reason.
Try setting a brainwashed person straight in the real world and they are likely to angrily lash out at you and work to cancel you. I won't even bring up my ideas in public. I like working.
At least nomo is willing to debate.
And ironically he's the one canceling himself. As the GC company's top leadership are all Trump supporting Republicans. And now every tradesman on his job calls him Joe Biden. His bosses are all getting fed up with him, because my Electric outfit has about $7K in change orders, that he didn't plan for, from the beginning. And dumb shit like "remove the Microwave outlets, the owner doesn't think she will need them" in the early rough in stages. But then by time we're there to do the finish work. The cabinets that were selected has a microwave cubby, so they tell us to put it in, because it's in the contract. But we also have the change order email and the singed off approval. We got paid to put it in originally, then take it out, then cut open finished drywall and paint, and cut through finished cabinetry to put it back in. There's always about 3 to 5 items that goes like that on every job. Because he doesn't have the sense enough to tell the customer when they are on the job site beer buzzing and thinking stupid. You might not need or use the microwave but it will cost you ten times more in the future to put one in, if needed or going to sell the house, or some code enforcers interpret the code for your kitchen remodels and new builds to have a microwave outlet for that very reason.
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Nomograph
2024 Aug 10, 1:01pm
Nomograph
2024 Aug 10, 1:01pm
Tenpoundbass says
https://www.aa.org/
As the GC company's top leadership are all Trump supporting Republicans. And now every tradesman on his job calls him Joe Biden. His bosses are all getting fed up with him, because my Electric outfit has about $7K in change orders, that he didn't plan for, from the beginning. And dumb shit like "remove the Microwave outlets, the owner doesn't think she will need them" in the early rough in stages. But then by time we're there to do the finish work. The cabinets that were selected has a microwave cubby, so they tell us to put it in, because it's in the contract. But we also have the change order email and the singed off approval. We got paid to put it in originally, then take it out, then cut open finished drywall and paint, and cut through finished cabinetry to put it back in. There's always about 3 to 5 items that goes like that on every job. Because he doesn't have the sense enough to tell the customer when they are on the job site beer buzzing and thinking stupid.
https://www.aa.org/
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2024 Aug 10, 1:15pm
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2024 Aug 10, 1:15pm
He is a troll. Engages in non sequiturs when his limited knowledge is exposed. Just say no, folks.
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Ceffer
2024 Aug 10, 1:23pm
Ceffer
2024 Aug 10, 1:23pm
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
We deserve better bots and glowies. These foistings are an insult (or maybe they are just road testing the edited bots on this site for future upgrades and improvements).
He is a troll. Engages in non sequiturs when his limited knowledge is exposed. Just say no, folks.
We deserve better bots and glowies. These foistings are an insult (or maybe they are just road testing the edited bots on this site for future upgrades and improvements).
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Tenpoundbass
2024 Aug 10, 1:29pm
Tenpoundbass
2024 Aug 10, 1:29pm
WookieMan says
He knows/hopes the vote rigging machine will make Kamala President.
The Democrats approach to politics is like team sports fans. It's just trash talking and hoping their side wins at all cost. They don't know nor care who the players they are rooting for are. It's the D they are cheering on. It's all they focus on. If they looked beyond the D and judged the candidates and elected officials accordingly. They would either rally for better candidates, grasp the reality that their party has been hijacked by radical communists that at the end of the day, hates them and is only using them for votes. But the voters don't care or know about any of that, they are voting for Democrats, not politicians or candidates. The ones that are full aware, but just argue team sorts politics rather than real issue politics, with a clear honest understanding of the players and parameters.
So as you can see either one of these Democrats will never tell you why Kamala is the better candidate, because they can't. Go Ravens!
Convince us why Kamala should be POTUS. We'll wait.
He knows/hopes the vote rigging machine will make Kamala President.
The Democrats approach to politics is like team sports fans. It's just trash talking and hoping their side wins at all cost. They don't know nor care who the players they are rooting for are. It's the D they are cheering on. It's all they focus on. If they looked beyond the D and judged the candidates and elected officials accordingly. They would either rally for better candidates, grasp the reality that their party has been hijacked by radical communists that at the end of the day, hates them and is only using them for votes. But the voters don't care or know about any of that, they are voting for Democrats, not politicians or candidates. The ones that are full aware, but just argue team sorts politics rather than real issue politics, with a clear honest understanding of the players and parameters.
So as you can see either one of these Democrats will never tell you why Kamala is the better candidate, because they can't. Go Ravens!
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DhammaStep
2024 Aug 10, 1:43pm
"People can successfully conspire only at the smallest scale, such as within a small group or business. Any conspiracy that involves more than three people will most likely be found out. A conspiracy of more than 10 would be essentially impossible to keep secret, and national or global conspiracies are simply not possible."
Can you prove this or is this one of those "it makes sense in my head so it must be true" opinions?
Can you prove this or is this one of those "it makes sense in my head so it must be true" opinions?
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WookieMan
2024 Aug 10, 3:08pm
WookieMan
2024 Aug 10, 3:08pm
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says
It's fun. Not gonna lie. Trolling back is just as fun. It's like a puppy playing with a tennis ball. You just chuck it and the dip shit chases it.
FFS people. He's just trolling you.
It's fun. Not gonna lie. Trolling back is just as fun. It's like a puppy playing with a tennis ball. You just chuck it and the dip shit chases it.
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Patrick
2024 Aug 10, 3:15pm
Patrick
2024 Aug 10, 3:15pm
WookieMan says
On the one hand that is personal, other the other, WookieMan is referring to a real episode Nomo may not have known about:
https://www.harley-davidsonforums.com/threads/south-park-makes-fun-of-harley-riders.37989/
So you're a fag? Watch some South Park and you'll get it. Until then I wouldn't write that you're a Harley rider. They're losers.
On the one hand that is personal, other the other, WookieMan is referring to a real episode Nomo may not have known about:
https://www.harley-davidsonforums.com/threads/south-park-makes-fun-of-harley-riders.37989/
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mell
2024 Aug 10, 3:30pm
Patrick says
It's not really an insult though according to their own philosophy, they celebrate it
WookieMan says
So you're a fag? Watch some South Park and you'll get it. Until then I wouldn't write that you're a Harley rider. They're losers.
On the one hand that is personal, other the other, WookieMan is referring to a real episode Nomo may not have known about:
https://www.harley-davidsonforums.com/threads/south-park-makes-fun-of-harley-riders.37989/
It's not really an insult though according to their own philosophy, they celebrate it
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Patrick
2024 Aug 10, 3:37pm
Patrick
2024 Aug 10, 3:37pm
@Nomograph I think we'd get along well in person. I agree with most of your points, so I'll point out only the exceptions:
Nomograph says
It's a personal freedom the same way that becoming addicted to intravenous drugs is a personal freedom. That is, it's merely a vice, and generally a one-way journey to disease and greatly shortened lifespan. The ancient vice was not what modern gay advocates claim it was. In the ancient world, homosexuality was mostly men fucking boys. The idea of innate and exclusive homosexuality was unknown.
I'm for the freedom to screw up your life, as long as you don't drag children down with you, and the promotion of homosexuality to children, eg, the sodomy flag in schools, is on the same level as promoting IV drugs to them.
And suggesting to children that they might be "trans" is morally equivalent to suggesting that they might want to kill themselves. Putting the idea there in itself is morally wrong.
Nomograph says
I disagree. Cannons could splatter a lot of people at once. The intent was that citizens would form non-professional militias to resist both foreign invasion and tyrannical government. The founding fathers considered standing armies to be very dangerous.
Nomograph says
Not so. Kennedy was killed in a conspiracy against him, and the CIA is still hiding secrets about that conspiracy.
Nomograph says
Also false imho. It was rather simple to do in the end. Voting machines in key states reported back the number of "mail-in ballots" which were needed to swing the election, and that number was printed up and delivered at 3am. You yourself saw it happen. You went to bed seeing Trump well ahead, and woke up the next morning with a statistically impossible surprise.
Nomograph says
Not good for low-wage American workers, especially American blacks. Competition drives down wages. See https://patrick.net/post/1381434/2024-06-01-grand-unified-theory-of-recent
Trump's restriction of illegal immigration directly resulted in the lowest black unemployment rate ever .
Nomograph says
Trump certainly does seem to stand for traditional American values, except for promoting the gay thing, and having a fling with a porn star.
Trump wants to restrict "free" markets across national borders, increasing tariffs on Chinese goods and reducing wage-killing competition from desperate illegal labor. The question is only who wins and who loses. With global free trade, stockholders get higher dividends while the working class gets lower wages.
What intrusive government policies do you mean?
The "victim mentality and culture of blaming" seems like a Democrat phenomenon to me, claiming that "racism" is to blame for racial disparities in incomes.
"curtailing personal freedoms" in what way? I don't see it.
Nomograph says
He supports gay marriage as a personal freedom.
It's a personal freedom the same way that becoming addicted to intravenous drugs is a personal freedom. That is, it's merely a vice, and generally a one-way journey to disease and greatly shortened lifespan. The ancient vice was not what modern gay advocates claim it was. In the ancient world, homosexuality was mostly men fucking boys. The idea of innate and exclusive homosexuality was unknown.
I'm for the freedom to screw up your life, as long as you don't drag children down with you, and the promotion of homosexuality to children, eg, the sodomy flag in schools, is on the same level as promoting IV drugs to them.
And suggesting to children that they might be "trans" is morally equivalent to suggesting that they might want to kill themselves. Putting the idea there in itself is morally wrong.
Nomograph says
Founding Fathers had no understanding of what the term "arms" would come to mean in the modern world
I disagree. Cannons could splatter a lot of people at once. The intent was that citizens would form non-professional militias to resist both foreign invasion and tyrannical government. The founding fathers considered standing armies to be very dangerous.
Nomograph says
Any conspiracy that involves more than three people will most likely be found out.
Not so. Kennedy was killed in a conspiracy against him, and the CIA is still hiding secrets about that conspiracy.
Nomograph says
Trump lost the election. It is not possible to have such a large conspiracy
Also false imho. It was rather simple to do in the end. Voting machines in key states reported back the number of "mail-in ballots" which were needed to swing the election, and that number was printed up and delivered at 3am. You yourself saw it happen. You went to bed seeing Trump well ahead, and woke up the next morning with a statistically impossible surprise.
Nomograph says
He believes that allowing migrant workers to come is good for all.
Not good for low-wage American workers, especially American blacks. Competition drives down wages. See https://patrick.net/post/1381434/2024-06-01-grand-unified-theory-of-recent
Trump's restriction of illegal immigration directly resulted in the lowest black unemployment rate ever .
Nomograph says
Nomograph does not want Trump to be president because he does not stand for traditional American, Conservative, or Libertarian values. He promotes restriction of free markets. He does not support free labor markets. He supports large and intrusive government policies. He does not practice personal responsibility, but rather encourages a victim mentality and culture of blaming. He supports curtailing personal freedoms.
Trump certainly does seem to stand for traditional American values, except for promoting the gay thing, and having a fling with a porn star.
Trump wants to restrict "free" markets across national borders, increasing tariffs on Chinese goods and reducing wage-killing competition from desperate illegal labor. The question is only who wins and who loses. With global free trade, stockholders get higher dividends while the working class gets lower wages.
What intrusive government policies do you mean?
The "victim mentality and culture of blaming" seems like a Democrat phenomenon to me, claiming that "racism" is to blame for racial disparities in incomes.
"curtailing personal freedoms" in what way? I don't see it.
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Patrick
2024 Aug 11, 1:28pm
Patrick
2024 Aug 11, 1:28pm
Patrick says
And South Park itself is referring to actions by Harley:
https://notthebee.com/article/harley-davidson-got-the-bud-light-treatment-at-the-sturgis-motorcycle-rally
WookieMan says
So you're a fag? Watch some South Park and you'll get it. Until then I wouldn't write that you're a Harley rider. They're losers.
On the one hand that is personal, other the other, WookieMan is referring to a real episode Nomo may not have known about:
https://www.harley-davidsonforums.com/threads/south-park-makes-fun-of-harley-riders.37989/
And South Park itself is referring to actions by Harley:
https://notthebee.com/article/harley-davidson-got-the-bud-light-treatment-at-the-sturgis-motorcycle-rally
We showed you back in July how Harley-Davidson had gone woke with all this DEI nonsense and transing the kids and what not. ...
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clambo
2024 Aug 11, 2:21pm
The conspiracy to steal the 2020 election wasn't national; it was conducted in several selected spots in swing states.
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Ceffer
2024 Aug 11, 3:18pm
Ceffer
2024 Aug 11, 3:18pm
clambo says
Not even just that. It was a Swiss BIS IPO with many investors and many players on many levels, with, as usual, local Freemasons doing the local yokel bribes, legal grooming, police grooming, political grooming and logistics.
Amongst the players were the Vatican (always, satellites and internet space comms), Italy, the Brits (always), Germany, Spain (both these G&S servers and CIA field outposts with Hammer & Scorecard software), Serbia (hackers), Venezuela (hackers and machine field testing), CCP (software, internet and chips), Canada (Toronto/Dominion/Soros) as well as the fake Covid Guv Cartel (FDA, CDC, NIH, Medical Schools, Hospital Assassins, corrupt journals&peer review, etc.) promoting the fake pandemic to empower the mail in frauds.
It was massive and burned up incredible amounts of printing press fiat money.
The conspiracy to steal the 2020 election wasn't national; it was conducted in several selected spots in swing states.
Not even just that. It was a Swiss BIS IPO with many investors and many players on many levels, with, as usual, local Freemasons doing the local yokel bribes, legal grooming, police grooming, political grooming and logistics.
Amongst the players were the Vatican (always, satellites and internet space comms), Italy, the Brits (always), Germany, Spain (both these G&S servers and CIA field outposts with Hammer & Scorecard software), Serbia (hackers), Venezuela (hackers and machine field testing), CCP (software, internet and chips), Canada (Toronto/Dominion/Soros) as well as the fake Covid Guv Cartel (FDA, CDC, NIH, Medical Schools, Hospital Assassins, corrupt journals&peer review, etc.) promoting the fake pandemic to empower the mail in frauds.
It was massive and burned up incredible amounts of printing press fiat money.
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EBGuy
2024 Aug 15, 10:01pm
Nomograph says
An estimate of U.S. “gender-affirming” double mastectomies published in 2023 in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported 3,125 cases of “breast or chest procedures” in patients ages 12 to 18 between 2016 to 2020. The study did not differentiate between 18-year-olds and minors. A new analysis by the Manhattan Institute, using a more up-to-date all-payer national insurance database from 2017 to 2023, found evidence of 5,288 to 6,294 “gender-affirming” double mastectomies for girls under age 18. This includes 50 to 179 girls who were 12.5 or younger at the time of their procedure.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/a-consensus-no-longer
It's a non-issue; there is essentially no surgical manipulation of genitals in the U.S. The exact numbers are 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. The rest of GAC is hormones or puberty blockers.
An estimate of U.S. “gender-affirming” double mastectomies published in 2023 in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported 3,125 cases of “breast or chest procedures” in patients ages 12 to 18 between 2016 to 2020. The study did not differentiate between 18-year-olds and minors. A new analysis by the Manhattan Institute, using a more up-to-date all-payer national insurance database from 2017 to 2023, found evidence of 5,288 to 6,294 “gender-affirming” double mastectomies for girls under age 18. This includes 50 to 179 girls who were 12.5 or younger at the time of their procedure.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/a-consensus-no-longer
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AD
2024 Aug 15, 11:42pm
AD
2024 Aug 15, 11:42pm
Patrick says
Was listening to Coast to Coast AM tonight and they have an expert demographer guest Ken Gronbach that says Harley Davidson is doomed.
It appears that Harley Davidson's marketing efforts to the younger generation (born 1989 to 2000) is not working, even by going heavy on the pro-Woke themes.
.
We showed you back in July how Harley-Davidson had gone woke with all this DEI nonsense and transing the kids and what not. ...
Was listening to Coast to Coast AM tonight and they have an expert demographer guest Ken Gronbach that says Harley Davidson is doomed.
It appears that Harley Davidson's marketing efforts to the younger generation (born 1989 to 2000) is not working, even by going heavy on the pro-Woke themes.
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WookieMan
2024 Aug 16, 5:56am
WookieMan
2024 Aug 16, 5:56am
AD says
Because they're fags. I chewed out my neighbor years ago about idling and revving his piece of shit Harley up at 6am with illegal pipes. He started walking it down the block turned off so as not to piss me off.
Most of the younger generations are more into the BMW touring type bikes. Not sure that's what they're called as I'm not into dying. They're generally quiet bikes and faster (not rice rockets). I have no problem with those, but I know I'll lose a friend at some point in the next decade unfortunately. Motorcycles are stupid. Sorry to pat netters that own them, but it's fact. I don't care how good you ride. We can't see you and neither can animals that cross the road.
Was listening to Coast to Coast AM tonight and they have an expert demographer guest Ken Gronbach that says Harley Davidson is doomed.
Because they're fags. I chewed out my neighbor years ago about idling and revving his piece of shit Harley up at 6am with illegal pipes. He started walking it down the block turned off so as not to piss me off.
Most of the younger generations are more into the BMW touring type bikes. Not sure that's what they're called as I'm not into dying. They're generally quiet bikes and faster (not rice rockets). I have no problem with those, but I know I'll lose a friend at some point in the next decade unfortunately. Motorcycles are stupid. Sorry to pat netters that own them, but it's fact. I don't care how good you ride. We can't see you and neither can animals that cross the road.
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Patrick
2024 Aug 16, 8:12am
Patrick
2024 Aug 16, 8:12am
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says
C'mon, you know that's personal.
He does seem to be deliberately trolling though.
personal
Or you are just a trolling liar. Which is it?
How is this personal, @patrick ?
C'mon, you know that's personal.
He does seem to be deliberately trolling though.
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WookieMan
2024 Aug 16, 8:48am
WookieMan
2024 Aug 16, 8:48am
Patrick says
I didn't moderate it. DATF screen shot a post that the person found personal that they themselves said. Don't call yourself a retard and get butt hurt over it. It's the purest definition of hypocrisy. And trying to troll. Albeit not successful. I didn't think it was personal at all.
I think personal attacks can detract from debate and discussion. But you can't call yourself a retard and then flag a comment of someone calling you a retard. You're a self admitted retard... right? That's not personal. Nomo identifies as a retard and that's okay.
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says
personal
Or you are just a trolling liar. Which is it?
How is this personal, patrick ?
C'mon, you know that's personal.
He does seem to be deliberately trolling though.
I didn't moderate it. DATF screen shot a post that the person found personal that they themselves said. Don't call yourself a retard and get butt hurt over it. It's the purest definition of hypocrisy. And trying to troll. Albeit not successful. I didn't think it was personal at all.
I think personal attacks can detract from debate and discussion. But you can't call yourself a retard and then flag a comment of someone calling you a retard. You're a self admitted retard... right? That's not personal. Nomo identifies as a retard and that's okay.
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DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2024 Aug 16, 9:05am
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2024 Aug 16, 9:05am
Patrick says
See Wookie's comment in the above. The only reason I went for that is because of exactly what Wookie said. Ditto for the 'smart man' part, that too was in reference to what Nomo trolled also:
C'mon, you know that's personal.
See Wookie's comment in the above. The only reason I went for that is because of exactly what Wookie said. Ditto for the 'smart man' part, that too was in reference to what Nomo trolled also:
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Patrick
2024 Aug 16, 9:24am
Patrick
2024 Aug 16, 9:24am
Calling him what he called himself seems OK, but I think it's better to concentrate on his actions than what he is.
So saying he's trolling is arguably correct. But saying he's a trolling liar is different somehow.
So saying he's trolling is arguably correct. But saying he's a trolling liar is different somehow.
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DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2024 Aug 16, 9:35am
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked
2024 Aug 16, 9:35am
Patrick says
Lying is an action. So is trolling.
Calling him what he called himself seems OK, but I think it's better to concentrate on his actions than what he is.
So saying he's trolling is arguably correct. But saying he's a trolling liar is different somehow.
Lying is an action. So is trolling.
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mell
2024 Aug 16, 9:48am
DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says
Def lied about the number of underage trans mutilation performed as EBguy posted the correct stats. Considering the graveness of this procedure that's pretty significant
Patrick says
Calling him what he called himself seems OK, but I think it's better to concentrate on his actions than what he is.
So saying he's trolling is arguably correct. But saying he's a trolling liar is different somehow.
Lying is an action. So is trolling.
Def lied about the number of underage trans mutilation performed as EBguy posted the correct stats. Considering the graveness of this procedure that's pretty significant
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- Nomograph is centrist with a Libertarian bent, essentially a classical Conservative.
- Nomograph believes that the world is a more peaceful and verdant place today than is has ever been during the history of civilization. Starvation and rampant disease has been essentially eliminated, and most people enjoy opportunities that our predecessors couldn't even imagine.
- He believes in preserving traditional American values: small government, strict separation of church and state, personal freedom, rule of law, checks and balances, free elections, free markets.
- He supports gay marriage as a personal freedom. People should be free to do as they please as long as long as it doesn't harm others. Men have been fucking other men since the dawn of time and will continue to do so. Nomograph believes that people who are afraid that men fucking other men will somehow put their marriage at risk need to develop deeper faith in their own ways and beliefs.
- Nomograph is a gun owner and believes in 2nd amendment rights to bear arms. At the same time, he also realizes that the Founding Fathers had no understanding of what the term "arms" would come to mean in the modern world: weapons freely available to anyone capable of killing huge numbers of people. Thus, there needs to be a reasoned approach to how we define this right.
- He believes in personal responsibility at the most radical level. He believes if you are unhappy, it is YOUR job to change YOURSELF. If you are a poor American, you have the opportunity to improve yourself and your situation and it is your responsibility to do so. The government is not responsible for your success, wealth, and happiness. It is up to you if your marriage succeeds or fails. It is up to you if your career succeeds or fails. It is up to you to raise your children with the beliefs and morals you find important. It is up to you to live a healthy lifestyle and eat proper foods.
- Nomograph believes that almost every single conspiracy theory is nonsense. People can successfully conspire only at the smallest scale, such as within a small group or business. Any conspiracy that involves more than three people will most likely be found out. A conspiracy of more than 10 would be essentially impossible to keep secret, and national or global conspiracies are simply not possible. Multigenerational conspiracies like chemtrails and geoengineering are laughably ridiculous, according to Nomograph.
- Since a national conspiracy is impossible, Nomograph understands that Trump lost the election. It is not possible to have such a large conspiracy, with so much scrutiny, and not have the entire thing completely fall apart. Remember that Trump couldn't even throw a note in the toilet in the privacy of the White House without it being found out. A national election conspiracy collapses under the weight of it's required complexity, as do all conspiracies.
- Nomograph is a veteran of foreign wars.
- Nomograph is a physician, scientist, and educator
- Nomograph is vigorously pro-education.
- Nomograph rides a Harley
- Nomograph thinks California is the best state to live in, because it offers the greatest personal freedom and natural beauty. He can also split lanes on his Harley in California, making traffic irrelevant. Many people are afraid of the personal freedoms that California embraces and find such freedoms threatening, but Nomograph minds his own business and takes comfort in knowing that his own personal freedoms are protected and embraced. He does not like the state income tax, but likes the very low property tax rate.
- Nomograph believes in reasonably open borders, free trade, and a free labor market. He believes that allowing migrant workers to come is good for all. He knows that most migrant workers would prefer to return home to their families after the season is over, but many stay rather than risk a dangerous border crossing yearly. Nomograph believes that reinstating the successful Bracero program would be the best possible solution.
- Nomograph believes that if a migrant worker steals your job, then you deserved to lose it. He thinks it is each individual's responsibility to ensure that they have the necessary skills to be competitive in the labor marketplace. He does not believe it is the government's responsibility to protect your job.
- Nomograph does not want Trump to be president because he does not stand for traditional American, Conservative, or Libertarian values. He promotes restriction of free markets. He does not support free labor markets. He supports large and intrusive government policies. He does not practice personal responsibility, but rather encourages a victim mentality and culture of blaming. He supports curtailing personal freedoms.
- Nomograph is not a smart man.