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What if China decides to take over Hongkong and Macau...?

Nomograph says

stocksjustgoup says

What if China decides to take over Hawaii?

And what if Sparticus had a Piper Cub?

A classic Saturday Night live skt if I'm not mistaken? Kirk Douglas reprising his role as the historical slave leader yelling at the Roman legions while tossing whatever he could find in the cockpit

China has a navy???

What if Canada takes over New York? What if Mexico takes over Texas? What if Russia takes over Alaska? What if Cuba takes over Florida? What if England takes over Massachusetts? Do you see how silly of a thread this is?

> China has a navy???

Yes, At least one Aircraft Carrier that I'm aware of. At least 52 other ships, including a several Nuclear Subs. The Chinese Navy travels all around the eastern pacific. l really don't know the full extend of the Chinese military, up to date facts aren't easily obtained, but I'm sure the American Military is well aware of all the military assets China owns. After the Russian military pretty much fell apart, China is the most powerful opponent now. Sure Russian still has lots of ships, planes and Nuclear weapons, but they can only afford to maintain a fraction of what they have. Every year Russia has a few less operational Nuclear Missles. (although I do beleive the nuclear weapons stay dangerous for several hundred years, it's only the delivery system that lacking now)

WTF does this have to do w/ housing? Patrick, please delete this crap.

Moved to miscellaneous forum.

Just the old guard in China who have a gruge fight with Taiwan, as they die off, there will be no such talk.

China's biggest problem is North Korea which is creating instability with China's trading partners. If anything, many local nations would rather see China invade and occupy North Korea.

The idea that "number of troops" is meaningful in a nuclear war is absurd.

Total population size matters -- that's why Mao wanted China to have such a large population in the first place. It doesn't matter to "win", though. Mao believed that if a nuclear war broke out, having billions of people would guarantee that at least some would survive.

There are no winners in a Nuclear war. If the US and China ever go to war, we're all dead. Africa and South America might survive, but Europe will get drawn in, and when the nukes fly there won't be anyone left.

Are all of China's weapons "Made in China?" If they are, we have nothing to worry about.

"Total population size matters — that’s why Mao wanted China to have such a large population in the first place."

You do know that Mao slaughtered 70 million people, right?

thunderlips11 says

The reasons above are exactly why we DON’T need a standing army.

I have always believed that a standing Army is a good idea. For one thing, we'll save money on chairs.

Why would China Want Hawaii? It's got spit all over it now.

I think we should be more worried about the coming zombie invasions.

Is your home defensible? Do you have an escape route? How long can you hole up? These are the true things we need to consider.

kentm says

I think we should be more worried about the coming zombie invasions.
Is your home defensible? Do you have an escape route? How long can you hole up? These are the true things we need to consider.

Don't worry. I got it covered:

Ah good. And its excellent that you're practicing in a Hawaii-like environment, too.

But having said that, considering the video game apoco-prep technique, there is this problematic new Chinese video game out, that has American troops as the bad-guys:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/17/glorious-mission-chinese-video-game_n_863166.html

I don't think that the Chinese want to wok on the wild side because this might lead to a nuclear occident which could be quite a firy stir fry and I don't think they want trouble up the ying yang right now.
They're using their noodle and this is the mein point I'm trying to make. Besides, it's the wong thng to do and they know it. Why would they act like a Fu?
Soy what do you think? Yuan Tibet on it? Do you really think they would go that Lo? Especially since we can Saki to them, too.
Am I concerned? Yes, Siam, but the best advice Formosa us is this: Try to Keep your Chan held high.

My french is pretty rusty but even so I hope that's either sarcasm or she's talking about another thead.

I vote this the dumbest thread ever posted at patrick.net. Anyone bothering to think for more than .1 seconds about why or how china would invade HI would have to agree.

stocksjustgoup says

What if China decides to take over Hawaii?

You mean Anchorage, Alaska, right?

Don't worry, we'll just send a big ass nuke grenade tossing robot over there.

I'm glad this thread was revived, if only because it brought back some old posters I'd forgotten about.

The Little Guy Lobby says

China doesn't have to take us over. Just let the clock keep ticking. They OWN US already, and more everyday they keep making stuff and we keep watching cable tv and eating doritos.

This is more paranoid cable news head spinner horseshit. The Chinese economy is nothing but a shell.

If anyone's going to be in a position to be dangerous, it's us. Not only are the Europeans financially broke but they're likely to stay that way given the demographic mess that's coming.

In Japan, it's worse. The Japanese have money in the bank but no natural resources and that includes failure to replenish their population.

We have the brain power, will power, military might and natural resources to do damn near anything we want to do.

LandShark2847 says

dont expect full scale war between nuclear countries, it takes only a few hundreds of nukes to end human beings.

There have been 750 above ground nuclear tests since the invention of nuclear weapons. (United States alone detonated over a thousand, but some of them have been under ground) It would take far more than a few hundred to result in the extinction of the human race. One estimate puts the figure at 14,000, and most of the deaths wouldn't be from the nuclear strikes or radiation, but from the resulting debris in the atmosphere blocking out the sun causing world wide temperatures to drop. (nuclear winter). It's estimated that only 6,000 nuclear weapons are functional enough to be launched at a moments notice.