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36825   ttsmyf   2013 Aug 30, 7:06am  

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999:

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
(Recent Dow day is Friday, August 30, 2013 __ Level is 94.6)

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes indeed, go here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

36826   michaelsch   2013 Aug 30, 7:23am  

Yes, gsr, that's getting really interesting.

And according to this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html

Prince Bangar actually proposed to Putin creating a world oil cartel, if Putin gives up supporting Assad.

36827   anonymous   2013 Aug 30, 7:58am  

I lol at you for being a giant jack ass

36828   exfatguy   2013 Aug 30, 8:00am  

None of this matters because the new economy states that when one bubble bursts another one will simply be inflated.

You can't predict in what form the bubble will be, but for damn sure there will be one.

Housing will never go down.

36829   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Aug 30, 8:44am  

sbh says

Not by humans, no; but by capital, the stored labor of humans

Whose stored labor? Why do so many trust fund babies have so much capital without working, while Ms. Hernandez keeps mopping those floors and wiping the windows has no capital?

36830   ttsmyf   2013 Aug 30, 9:30am  

egads101 says

Most of the Dow stock companies from 1890 aren't even around any more. They change which companies are in the index...

So, your graph means nothing, like this thread.

Perception and non perception are both merely illusions.

You are questioning the relevance of the Dow. Are you perhaps doing this just because the inflation-adjusted Dow does well-show to the people their serial herd behavior?

DO NOTE the substantial similarity of the Real S&P (by Robert Shiller):
http://www.econ.yale.edu/~shiller/data/ie_data.xls

36831   dunnross   2013 Aug 30, 10:11am  

Except the channel you're showing is higher than the previous channel, which means that the bear market in gold should have ended back in 2012, when it broke out of the lower channel, but, due to bank manipulation, it was delayed. Bank manipulation could not get it to break down into the lower channel again, so now, primarily because of China and India buyer, western bank have lost control of it.

36832   B.A.C.A.H.   2013 Aug 30, 10:36am  

Arguing about lines on charts about things that already happened.

How silly is that?!

36833   dunnross   2013 Aug 30, 12:26pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says

Arguing about lines on charts about things that already happened.

It's not silly at all. There is a logical explanation to it. Areas of support and resistance are real, because, other traders see them too, and to break through them, it takes a real fundamental event. If the event doesn't occur, then, the price action just stays within the channel. TA is not good without Fundamental Analysis, just like pure FA can't be done without technicals.

36834   dunnross   2013 Aug 30, 12:34pm  

egads101 says

In other words, "Technical Analysis is complete Bullshit. But enough people believe that Bullshit that it actually works, since they will all see the same buy and sell signals....

You can say that about almost anything:

1. Money ($USD)
2. Real Estate Prices.
3. Federal Reserve.
4. US Govt
...

The list goes on and on.

36835   NDrLoR   2013 Aug 30, 1:45pm  

Dan8267 says

I don't how nationalizing healthcare and socializing its cost is connected to the despotism of the Soviet Union.

This hour program has nothing to do with national health care but rather how in today's world feminism is inextricably bound up with Marxism.

36836   Shaman   2013 Aug 30, 2:52pm  

I think you need to completely own your handle before it can come to define you.

36837   RentingForHalfTheCost   2013 Aug 30, 2:56pm  

egads101 says

trying to identify companies that are going to increase their dividends over the upcoming decade, and buying them to hold forever.

I heard rumors of a REIT created by some new up-and-comer in Phoenix that has a nack for finding 20% and more ROI for rentals. Rumor has it that his dividend growth surpasses that of Apple and Google in their prime. The only expense is the risk of life during collection day, but so far so good. Hey, there is no easy money. What is a few gunshots verses making cold cash?

36838   B.A.C.A.H.   2013 Aug 30, 3:54pm  

i-Think you think too much about Ol' i-wog. Is he really so important to spend that much time?

Bay Arean Cool And Hip

36839   HEY YOU   2013 Aug 30, 4:29pm  

After reading all our threads & comments,everyday, We all can't use the handle, ASSHOLE.

36840   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Aug 31, 10:55am  

If it was possible to quantify the unquantifiable, it's likely that Goldman Sachs with their countless Math PhDs would have crunched it by now. Anybody remember Black-Shoales?

Also, doesn't capitalist theory say that once you identify a need, the margin disappears? The Tool Booth Situation?

I think my new tactic is to simply by garbage that has been oversold. Anybody seen the Greek ETF over the past few years? Buy when there is blood on the streets, sell when everybody is talking the asset to the moon and possibly beyond to the next parsec.

When Gold goes back to $300-400/oz. I'm a buyer. When Silver falls into the mid-teens, I'm a buyer.

36841   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Aug 31, 11:48am  

When did Walmart begin the downward spiral? When the founder died, and the new management fired or drove to quitting the thousands of long time employees making teens per hour with benefits.

They pursued a policy of aggressive expansion that drove tons of local businesses out of business. Fine, competition.

But then, they ate themselves. The multiple checkout lines were useless, since they were only partially staffed. The stores fell apart, disorganized shelves, filthy floors, overworked, hateful staff - the only people who wanted to work at Walmart were those who had no choice.

The lack of substitutes in rural areas makes Walmart a mad house at certain times (like all weekend long).

Having cut the staff to the bone, even Forbes noticed that Walmart seems to be cutting store management, too:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/walterloeb/2013/07/17/why-are-walmart-stores-such-a-mess/

In the past few years, people started to get wise to Walmart's trickery. People now make sure there is no "W" at the end of a model identifier when comparing Walmart prices to competitors - although Walmart got wise to that and got manufacturers to drop any serial number ID for their inferior Wally Versions:

I wanted an inexpensive digital camera for my daughter. After finding one with the basic features I wanted, I went to sears, target and walmart to check prices. All 3 stores sold the a camera with the exact same model number. Sears -$119 target -$109 walmart - $99 . I bought it at the manufactures online store but when the camera was delivered it DID NOT have all the features that the Sears and Target salesperson had shown me (couldn’t get help at the Walmart store). I contacted the factory store and asked them if perhaps the one I got was an older version of this camera since the model number on the unit was the correct. The customer service agent apologized and said I must have gotten one of the “WALMART” cameras. These units were manufactured just for them with the same model number but with reduced features. So while the price was a little lower at walmart, the value was worse since it was a stripped down version.

http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/NussbaumOnDesign/archives/2007/02/can_this_be_true_of_wal-mart.html

TL;DR: They'll find the cheaper price is due to reduced features, not better prices than the competition.

36842   Blurtman   2013 Aug 31, 3:01pm  

She is hiding a co-conspirator in there.

36843   Ceffer   2013 Aug 31, 3:46pm  

Child bearing hips. Looks like she's good for a battalion of sociopathic Scotsmen.

36845   HydroCabron   2013 Sep 1, 1:55am  

No way that could be hard to trace.

Satellite imagery can be cross-referenced with data on gravitational anomalies. That can't just fade into the landscape.

36846   Blurtman   2013 Sep 1, 2:43am  

It's the BUTTAPOCALYPSE!

36847   HydroCabron   2013 Sep 1, 2:54am  

Hippopotta-POW!

36848   Ceffer   2013 Sep 1, 3:40am  

Catapult her into space, and wherever she lands, it will be the Tunguska-Butt Event. The crater will be legendary.

36849   elliemae   2013 Sep 1, 7:45am  

Butt, butt, butt... She paid off a $2,600 tax lien while on the run. Probably pulled the money out of her ass.

36850   Ceffer   2013 Sep 1, 7:46am  

There's gold in them thar hills!

36851   MisdemeanorRebel   2013 Sep 1, 9:45am  

Oops, forgot a keypoint - thanks sbh for the sociopath analogy.

Walmart stores began cannibalizing sales from other Walmarts, too.

Wallyword is a dying business. Even with all the preferential local tax treatments (localities often got into bidding wars, making all other businesses pay full tax with old infrastructure, while promising Walmart no property taxes and improved infrastructure for car traffic), the full bore PR campaign, all the CATO and Heritage help, it got too greedy and pissed off the customer.

Increasingly, Wallyworld is getting the bottom rungs of consumers; whereas before they had a much more diverse (and profitable) customer base. With that bottom rung base comes more security problems, as well. Walmart Parking Lots are often huge black spots in otherwise crime free locales.

36852   HydroCabron   2013 Sep 1, 10:25am  

Why did Walmart never sell real estate?

36853   AverageBear   2013 Sep 1, 11:40am  

thunderlips11 says

Wallyword is a dying business.

Really? Their financials say otherwise. Are you also considering their business OUTSIDE the US? This is where they will find very good growth moving forward.

You may not like Walmart as a consumer, or for moral reasons; but you can't deny it as an investment juggernaut....

36854   AverageBear   2013 Sep 1, 11:43am  

thunderlips11 says

When did Walmart begin the downward spiral?

If a company is in a downward spiral, why do they keep raising their dividends? One of the best dividend growth companies, and they are in a downward spiral? What am I missing?

36855   Blurtman   2013 Sep 1, 2:45pm  

It's listed in the MLS.

36856   Bap33   2013 Sep 1, 3:43pm  

NAZI 2.0 aka Obamageddon.

36857   thomaswong.1986   2013 Sep 1, 4:07pm  

bg.. you really hit a new low.

36858   Ceffer   2013 Sep 1, 4:25pm  

When she says her listing includes an acre, she's talking about her butt.

When she asks her husband, "Does this make my butt look fat", he runs and hides for days.

When she asks the photographer to take a picture of her next to her listing, he asks her if she wants an aerial shot.

36859   JustInTime   2013 Sep 1, 5:47pm  

I wanted to buy the dip but didn't have the cash. It was back above $1300 before I made my purchase - three Kangaroos. So far so good though.

36860   Tenpoundbass   2013 Sep 1, 11:37pm  

She's pulling it off. But she needs to do something about the puss on her face though.

36862   Facebooksux   2013 Sep 2, 4:38am  

sbh says

Which is why your observations are worth considering, unlike some posters, on other matters, who will deny the tape and keep saying just wait.....just wait....just wait. One wonders if they really even make trades or have money bet on their line. The tape is all that matters.

His observations aren't worth crap when it comes to gold. He may have gotten lucky with housing (thanks only to Benny and the Inkjets), but he's thinking like a HFT algo when it comes to gold. That no longer applies. And yes, I've put my money where my mouth is in this case.

36863   AverageBear   2013 Sep 2, 6:01am  

sbh says

AverageBear says

why do they keep raising their dividends?

Because, as with most publicly traded companies, the only thing that matters is the stock ownership. Wealth in America doesn't come from labor, it comes from ownership. That's been the case for a long time, so nobody is surprised. The hard part is watching the whole economy re-balance and retool around an impoverished population of mainstay consumers. We all know that a large component of their fate is their own responsibility, but it's like watching a slow moving train wreck as these new crap jobs flesh out the new crap business model of crap American wages.

SBH,

Sooooo, your argument has mutated into a broad rant about the macro economy, that has nothing to do w/ my original comment about Walmart being a in a downward spiral and its overall fiscal heath.

But you are correct in one aspect: as with most (ie, ALL) publicly traded companies, the only thing that matters (or more correctly, the first or most important thing) is making money. It's why they exist, and it's called self preservation.

Blaming one company (and its success) on our nation's 'crap' business model/wages/etc, is a pretty narrow view of things.

Walmart is one of the elite dividend payers in a sea of American companies. It helps retired folks (rich and poor, and every one inbetween) live better off the fixed income stream (dividends) that Walmart provides. Do you have a problem with this aspect of Walmart as well?

36864   Bap33   2013 Sep 2, 6:40am  

your turban too tight bg? craving those 72 virgins?

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