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marcus says

There are many thousands that are calling for secession !

to be fair, most signatories to the petition are liberals wishing the conservatives *would* GTFO.

Just get Ben Bernanke to say there isn't a secession, and the whole business will be forgotten.

CaptainShuddup says

Just get Ben Bernanke to say there isn't a secession, and the whole business will be forgotten

LOL - let Uncle Ben print confederate currency and in 10 years their economy will burst and collapse!

Kevin says

lostand confused says

Nope that affected portions of the population. Dictatorships never went into family law and mandated how much time you spent with your kids and how much money you have to pay to the kid and the ex and force you to maintain them in the life they have been accumsted to.

Oh, bitter divorcee. Sorry. I've never had a rational argument with one of these, so I won't bother.

lostand confused says

Slavery, war, kings were all part and parcel of our history-but never was there a system where the governemnt controls each and every citizen and determines what is good for each and every one of them and takes a choice away for everyone.

This is true. There has *never* been such a system. I sure hope there never is!

Wrong on both counts. I have never been married, though might finally settle down-found a nice woman who makes as much as me. The system is the modern family court system.

But go on cast personal insults-when there are none to be cast and keep talking gibberish-because as usual you have no worthwile arguments.

Kevin says

one is a fairy tale for children.

are you suggesting there was no Hebrew named Moses that led away Hebrew slaves (a historical person) or just not a Moses that did what the Bible said (Ten Commndments, Ark, ect)?

Kevin says

As far as the rest of your post...you have a very poor grasp of physics. I'm glad to see nothing has changed in the last 4 years.

Bap33 says

Kevin says

Bap33 says

man changes matter into energy. That is what the matter's value is.
You might want to revisit highschool physics.

when you burn a log, you change the matter into energy ... or, you can say you release the energy trapped inside the matter and seperate the matter into diferent compounds, or you can go google it and use that explaination, but what I said is what we do with matter to get energy. We use it. When we use heat, it was created by burning matter -- including El Sol.

Gravity (dam power) and Windmill both rely on magnetics to exchange energy.

You eat an apple, you use the matter and change it into energy.

You shouldn't allow your hate to keep you from having an open mind about Tesla's works, or DiVinci's, or Moses' Ark.

ok, now this:
http://www.ehow.com/about_6657743_burning-fuels-produce-similar-pollutants_.html

A very green view of how matter is used to make energy. I must be using a term or something you do not like, but I really cant see your point. I will not be upset if you plainly explain your point about my view, and let me know what I said that is wrong.

Bap33 says

I must be using a term or something you do not like, but I really cant see your point.

As for the matter vs. energy thing, matter can store potential energy in its chemical bonds.

Plants take the incident energy of photons hitting specific molecules in their leaves and transform water and carbon molecules into sugars, which have a higher embedded chemical energy than the constituent particles.

When we intentionally rapidly oxidize ("burn") these sugars, this embedded chemical energy is released as radiation, which we perceive as heat and light at our human scale of understanding.

But matter is conserved in this process, so matter is not actually turning into energy -- the atoms just come through it in a different, lower energy, configuration compared to how they were arranged before being burned.

http://www.ITpDrdtGAmo

As for the old testament, I think beyond a certain point it's no more historical than the Mormon "bible" is. Where that point is is of course open for debate, LOL.

Bellingham Bill says

When we intentionally rapidly oxidize ("burn") these sugars, this embedded chemical energy is released as radiation

and I said, "or, you can say you release the energy trapped inside the matter and seperate the matter into diferent compounds"

I think I grasp this pretty well .... but, this example is only talking about burning a bio source. We can burn rocks, that have no sugars, and release energy too. So, I just kept it simple. My bad.

Bap33 says

We can burn rocks, that have no sugars, and release energy too.

actually we're just rearranging the carbon-compound chemical bonds in fossil fuels, too. The organic matter that became fossil fuels was the product of photosynthesis, too, for that matter.

"organic' techincally means carbon-based, btw.

2H₂ + O₂ → 2H₂O exothermic reaction has no carbon in it, LOL. Thermite, and lime + aluminum are also non-organic power sources.

As are electrical batteries like lead acid (lead + hydrogen sulfate), NiCd and lithium polymer . . .

now we are on the same page .... matter = energy, and energy = matter.

matter is a compound of atoms that move around when they gain energy and when they lose energy.

My dry cell Optima battery is really nice.

Juan's core polemic is pointedly ignorant horseshit.

Look, he works for large entity which makes money. Whether it's NPR or it's Fox News, they own the microphone. You do or say something that offends your employer's sensibilities, you are history.

You want absolute "free speech" without worrying about getting fired, then buy your own microphone.

Pretending otherwise is like he's just discovered something everyone else has known since the beginnings of mass media. You think a reporter employed by William Randolph Hearst wrote any stories about the wonders of hemp?

Vicente says

You think a reporter employed by William Randolph Hearst wrote any stories about the wonders of hemp?

This question reminds me of a famous story about Hearst, which even Orson Welles acknowledged by presenting it in the movie Citizen Kaine. Hearst fell in love with a talented Vaudeville-type comedic showgirl named Marion Davies, and he pressured her to sing serious opera which seemed to him more dignified. A Hearst theater critic, who was also a drunkard, wrote a scathing review but passed out at his desk, missing his deadline. Hearst completed the negative review and ran it, then fired the writer for being drunk on the job and missing the deadline. Hearst was also famous for dinner parties at San Simeon where he invited people who disagreed totally about everything.

Vicente says

You want absolute "free speech" without worrying about getting fired, then buy your own microphone.

100% correct.