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Dan8267
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2013 Aug 14, 6:40am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JKJG8p3cJ4
An oldie, but goodie...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JKJG8p3cJ4
Tenpoundbass
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2013 Aug 14, 9:56am
I'll go along with it, if they revoke Obama's and make a formal apology for using the prize as a prop to give a media induced president relevance. Otherwise the Nobel Peace prize has no relevance to reality. If one were ever offered to me, I'd turn it down. Well maybe I'd just return the Trophy cup after I cashed the check.
Dan8267
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2013 Aug 15, 3:46am
Nobel Peace prize has no relevance to reality
Giving the NPP to Obama was a huge mistake. However, that does not negate the entire history of the Noble Peace Prize.
Most recipients are people who have made great strides in world peace and the persons chosen for the Noble Peace Prize strongly indicate what we, as a world, believe is important for accomplishing world peace. Most of the world believes that whistleblowers are necessary to keep corruption out of government , corruption that leads to war. So it is very appropriate for Manning to win this award.
RWSGFY
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2013 Aug 15, 5:20am
Giving the NPP to Obama was a huge mistake. However, that does not negate the entire history of the Noble Peace Prize.
Yep, it was negated much earlier, when they gave it to Arafat.
Shaman
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2013 Aug 15, 5:40am
That said, manning is an excellent choice. Many past NPP recipients have been too incarcerated to accept it. Aung San Suu Kyi, Nelson Mandela, and Liu Xiaobo for contemporary examples.
Every signatory of this petition, will have his IP address entered into obamas personal fleet of peace drones, and he will drop nukes on your ass. That'll show you traitors what the peace prize is really all about
Dan8267
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2013 Aug 15, 5:53am
Giving the NPP to Obama was a huge mistake. However, that does not negate the entire history of the Noble Peace Prize.
Yep, it was negated much earlier, when they gave it to Arafat.
Arafat certainly isn't the first person you think of when mentioning peace, but his NPP wasn't without reason. Arafat was instrumental in the Oslo Accords, which were very significant. What he has done since, warrants a reprimand, but at least there was reason for giving him the prize at the time.
I don't we can make such a case for Obama. After all, we are all not Bush. Most of us much more so than Obama.
RWSGFY
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2013 Aug 15, 5:59am
What he has done since, warrants a reprimand, but at least there was reason for giving him the prize at the time.
He have done plenty of disqualifying shit before too.
I don't we can make such a case for Obama. After all, we are all not Bush. Most of us much more so than Obama.
Agreed.
CL
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2013 Aug 15, 8:40am
What he has done since, warrants a reprimand, but at least there was reason for giving him the prize at the time.
What has Arafat done LATELY? :)
Dan8267
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2013 Aug 15, 9:21am
What he has done since, warrants a reprimand, but at least there was reason for giving him the prize at the time.
What has Arafat done LATELY? :)
Oh, I agree that Arafat is a terrible person and I disagree with the Nobel committee giving him the Peace Prize. However, I can at least understand why they did so; they thought a former tyrant was changing his way and wanted to encourage that. Although it turned out to be a bad idea, I can still see some justification for that decision.
I don't see the same justification for Obama's Peace Prize. His prize seems to have been purely a snub against Bush. Not that Bush doesn't deserve snubbing, but there are better ways to do it.
RWSGFY
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2013 Aug 16, 3:47am
What he has done since, warrants a reprimand, but at least there was reason for giving him the prize at the time.
What has Arafat done LATELY? :)
Got his ass exhumed.
RWSGFY
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2013 Aug 16, 3:49am
On a side note: the old Soviet proverb "There is no news in Pravda and no truth in Izvestia" should be expanded with "and there is no news about Russia on channel called Russia Today".
Dan8267
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2013 Aug 16, 4:17am
On a side note: the old Soviet proverb "There is no news in Pravda and no truth in Izvestia" should be expanded with "and there is no news about Russia on channel called Russia Today".
Perhaps, but I don't watch RT News for news about Russia. I watch it for news about America, and it is great at that.
One could make the case that no news agency can honestly report on its own country. How much honest coverage of the crimes of our government have been covered by domestic news? There is a good reason to watch foreign news coverage of your own country, no matter in which country you live.
RWSGFY
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2013 Aug 16, 4:32am
Perhaps, but I don't watch RT News for news about Russia.
.... and don't read Pravda to learn the truth. Gotcha.
Dan8267
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2013 Aug 16, 5:07am
Perhaps, but I don't watch RT News for news about Russia.
.... and don't read Pravda to learn the truth. Gotcha.
I don't follow. RT News nails it on American news regardless of how poorly it handles Russian news. Why should I ignore RT News America when they cover important matters accurately that other news agencies in America don't? That makes no sense.
CL
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2013 Aug 16, 5:34am
What he has done since, warrants a reprimand, but at least there was reason for giving him the prize at the time.
What has Arafat done LATELY? :)
Got his ass exhumed.
Yeah. That's what I meant. He's been pretty quiet, except for the digging.
Shaman
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2013 Aug 16, 6:14am
Does ANYONE believe that Obama deserves or did deserve his NPP? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
CL
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2013 Aug 16, 6:50am
Does ANYONE believe that Obama deserves or did deserve his NPP?
Obama?
I think he denied that he deserved it at the time too. That said, it actually made sense. Being the "First Black President" alone basically eliminated all race-based hatred in America. I know this because Republicans constantly claim they hate him because of policy differences, and not because they're racists.
He ran on a peace/withdrawal platform, justice, fairness in the economy and in sentencing.
He's no MLK, but it seems to be largely the same. Did MLK actually fix anything? He spoke eloquently on a lot of issues. Resisted the status quo, and embraced it at other times. He was a flawed, complicated guy who couldn't change the entire system single-handedly.
I think the failures say more about the country than the men who win, frankly.
HydroCabron
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2013 Aug 16, 7:46am
Being the "First Black President" alone basically eliminated all race-based hatred in America. I know this because Republicans constantly claim they hate him because of policy differences, and not because they're racists.
I know there must be racists in the Republican Party, but I have never met one. They all swear up and down that they're not racist, and I believe them.
Guess I'm just lucky.
You raise a good point: all Republicans now claim that Obama's election means that racism is extinct in the United States. His victory in 2008 is therefore extremely noteworthy for having eliminated racism, though perhaps not worthy of a Nobel Prize.
I figured the idiots in Oslo were just bitch-slapping the retards who voted for Bush in 2004, by thanking the United States for electing a non-neocon President - or at least one not openly so, anyway.
CL
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2013 Aug 16, 8:15am
I know there must be racists in the Republican Party, but I have never met one. They all swear up and down that they're not racist, and I believe them.
Really? You can't miss them. They have calves the size of an Iowa congressman.
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