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thomaswong.1986 says

go look it up...

Translation: you have no f-in clue. I almost for a second forgot who posted that response.

mell says

Yes, reversing is hypocritical, but it's a common occurrence on capitol hill across party lines, not newsworthy.

So, then we are agreed that Farenthold is a hypocrite trying to weasel he way out of answering a question that would out him for the hypocritical weasel that he is.

Why then the knee-jerk defense of him? Just because hypocrisy is common should we accept it as OK behavior from our leaders?

mell, on a side note do you think that Obama is a "natural born" citizen and eligible to hold the Presidency?

leo707 says

So, then we are agreed that Farenthold is a hypocrite trying to weasel he way out of answering a question that would out him for the hypocritical weasel that he is.

From nbc:

According to the Constitution, the president must be a “natural born” U.S. citizen. But the term “natural born” is not defined by the document.

So there is always some room for interpretation/speculation, he should have simply said "yes, apparently BO is a natural born citizen and so is Ted Cruz". But this topic is a bit overdone.

leo707 says

Why then the knee-jerk defense of him? Just because hypocrisy is common should we accept it as OK behavior from our leaders?

That was a sarcastic remark in how HIllary IMO dodged a question with much more conviction, so she didn't get cornered like that dude. I don't like most Democrats and Republicans, my 'OK' fantasy cabinet would include both Pauls, Bill Still, Grayson, Kucinich, Nader and a couple more. So really, I don't care for this dude ;)

leo707 says

mell, on a side note do you think that Obama is a "natural born" citizen and eligible to hold the Presidency?

I don't know if he is or isn't, esp. with the non-specific constitution and the long form vs short from birth certificate controversy, but I am not that interested in finding out ;)

mell says

So there is always some room for interpretation/speculation, he should have
simply said "yes, apparently BO is a natural born citizen and so is Ted Cruz".
But this topic is a bit overdone.

Either you follow the citizenship laws that made McCain eligible by being born in a foreign country but under the US Territory exclusion, and McCain was legitmately born.

OR you don't and Cruz isn't elgible. They BOTH can't be eligible under the criteria that was cited and congress stated as basing their McCain citizenship decision on, per the Washingto Post.

edvard2 says

That is painful to watch. Regardless, I am sure the GOP will once again choose someone to run who is totally un-electable and appealing mainly to the far right versus finding someone who is actually somewhat reasonable. So it doesn't really matter at this point.

Do you ever read National Review? It's interesting, and I do like the rare occasions when they propose something rather than saying "Obama is evil today because he supported the rebels in Libya, I mean, didn't support the rebels in Syria, I mean, did support the rebels in Syria"

Anyhow, a common theme there is that the GOP lost the last two elections because McCain and Romney were practically Communists, and not conservative enough. So we'll see what comes out in 2016.

Dan8267 says

There is no logical way to conclude that Ted Cruz can legitimately be president but Obama is not legitimately eligible to be president.

John McCain was born in Panama.

Mitt Romney arrived from another galaxy. Oh, wait, wrong cult.

leo707 says

No, Barrack Obama is not a "natural born" American citizen and was is not eligible for the position of US President. No, Ted Cruz not a "natural born" American citizen and he can not legitimately run for President.

There are some birthers who are consistent and reject Cruz as well.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/08/ask-birther-ted-cruz/68531/

thomaswong.1986 says

As one Famous Republican said about Liberal NYers...

and its self destructive behavior/policies asking to be bailed out.

You don't look at maps much. Corning is a long way from New York City.

Oh wait, that's right...Corning is in New York state, and anything "New York" is obviously evil.

thomaswong.1986 says

speculation when they were given CIA reports pointing to actual facts to the events why did Obama staff alter all the facts before the Sunday talk shows...

What, is it impossible that there were protests going on and the true terrorists chose that moment, because of the chaos of the protest giving them some cover, or that the anti-muslim video was a trigger for the terrorists who did it ?

Seriously, if there were protests going on in parts of the middle east over the video, and there were some hard core muslims that were super upset about the video, do we know that it was completely disconnected from the attacks ? Why wouldn't it be a trigger, sort of like when a natural catastrophe is a trigger for looting of stores.

In such a situation, was it the storm the cause of the looting, because it took safety workers away from protecting commercial property, or was it the scumbags who used the storm as an excuse to do something they wanted to do anyway ?

Also, if Benghazi (sp?) was simply a mistake by our government on many levels, shouldn't the security funding cuts to embassies and other outposts that were made by congress also be given some blame ?

thomaswong.1986 says

New York.. New York City.. just like Massachusetts... its all the same.

You've obviously never been here.

There's plenty of far-right insanity out in the rural areas of NY state. Just like in the rural areas of any other state.

SiO2 says

leo707 says

No, Barrack Obama is not a "natural born" American citizen and was is not eligible for the position of US President. No, Ted Cruz not a "natural born" American citizen and he can not legitimately run for President.

There are some birthers who are consistent and reject Cruz as well.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/08/ask-birther-ted-cruz/68531/

Yes, but how would they cast their ballots, and how much of a stink would they cause of Cruz won? I don't doubt that some would have the integrity to stick to their guns, but I would bet that the numbers would be insignificant and certainly we would not hear word-one about it from Trump.

You all are missing the biggest point of the exchange.
All republican and democratic politicians avoid answering direct questions 99% of the time. They all reframe the question to the way they would like to answer it.
Check out any sunday political talk show for verification.
I've seen far worse from the likes of pelosi, wassarwomanschultz, et al...
Yawn........

leo707 says

SoftShell says

Notice who was smiling the whole time during the sequence, and who was shitting their pants....

The fat boy wins...

Yes, regardless of what they are saying I always assume that the "winner" in an exchange is whomever can maintain a smile the longest. It is always sure sign of integrity, honesty and stability.

Right...?

thomaswong.1986 says

Obama did lie.. and the moderator backed up Romney's claim..

wtf ? Actually quite the opposite. Are you for real ?

Here, from your own article:

ROMNEY: I think (it's) interesting the president just said something which -- which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror.

OBAMA: That's what I said.

ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror. It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you're saying?

OBAMA: Please proceed governor.

ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.

OBAMA: Get the transcript.

CROWLEY: It -- it -- it -- he did in fact, sir ... call it an act of terror.

You can't make this stuff up.

Man, working for Fox sure must be an easy job. These idiots will grasp for any little twisted way to see themselves as right.

thomaswong.1986 says

see link above...

"He was right in the main. I just think he picked the wrong word," Candy Crowley said of Romney on CNN shortly after the debate ended.

But surely if you are the corporate executive you claim to be, you can see that in the exchange, Obama did not lie when he said he referred to it as an act of terror, the morning after.

And that Romney was severely mistaken when he said this: "I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror."

That was wrong. If he was right about Obama implying other things as being possibilitiies (such as a backdrop of a protest when the terrorists attacked), okay. But in that exchange, Obama was completely right and Romney was completely wrong.

Only someone with very elaborate lying skills would deny this.

SoftShell says

You all are missing the biggest point of the exchange.

All republican and democratic politicians avoid answering direct questions 99% of the time. They all reframe the question to the way they would like to answer it.

Check out any sunday political talk show for verification.

I've seen far worse from the likes of pelosi, wassarwomanschultz, et al...

Yawn........

That certainly is true.

thomaswong.1986 says

There were no protests that day.. there were the next day.. and they were all Pro_American.

THere were protests elsewhere, such as in Egypt. So elsewhere in the middle east wacko extremists were protesting the video.

Can we agree that terrorists in that part of the world are sometimes wacko Islamic fundamentalists ? The same type that might kill over perceived disrespect of Mohammed? So at the same time that protests over the video are happening elsewhere in the middle east, our government speculated that there might have been a connection.

Oh, the horror.

thomaswong.1986 says

but he certainly did not call Benghazi terrorism in the first two weeks after the attack

So he did call it an act or terror, but he did not call it terrorism ?

You are so clueless. You're dumber than Sean Hannity. But he is just a scumbag who lies for money. What's your excuse ?

If I was going to be vicariously ashamed and embarrassed for republicans, I don't know whether it would be for the dishonesty (with yourself) and the stupidity, or whether it would be for the downright low integrity scum that they are, trying to use that type of tragedy for political gain.

Eliminated all the tommy trolling. Just to clear up another lie that idiot has been making... A person born in the U.S. is a U.S. citizen regardless of whether or not his parents are Mexican citizens. That's part of the Fourteenth Amendment.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

Dan8267 says

Just to clear up another lie that idiot has been making... A person born in the U.S. is a U.S. citizen regardless of whether or not his parents are Mexican citizens. That's part of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Now now, it's not polite to present facts that contradict a person's ideology. That's just mean. ;-)

freak80 says

Now now, it's not polite to present facts that contradict a person's ideology. That's just mean. ;-)

Yeah, facts have a liberal bias.

Melvin said it better than anyone I've ever heard.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NzcyXXqQ7RU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNzcyXXqQ7RU

These days everyone is selling crazy, republicans and democrats alike. All the name calling and melodrama proves it. Join the sane crowd vote third party.

Vaticanus says

Melvin said it better than anyone I've ever heard.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NzcyXXqQ7RU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNzcyXXqQ7RU

These days everyone is selling crazy, republicans and democrats alike. All the name calling and melodrama proves it. Join the sane crowd vote third party.

Exactly.

“You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy.”
― Charles Manson

sbh says

As the nation lurches into the chasm within the Republican party, all of us who have wished for a third party should be careful what we wish for. When a group of idealists commit an act of isolationism within their own country you have to wonder if we are starting down the slippery slope toward Euro-style multi-factionalism. We'll get more choice as voters, to be sure, but will we get a country in stasis held immobile by groups that will not compromise. Imagine two or three wings of each party staging purges and obstructions and betrayals within their own sides of the center. In perhaps two or three generations we could be Europe. Only in America!

With all due respect, your post makes no sense. If " only in America " then why do you say we'll be just like Europe? Furthermore if the two party system is broken, as current rhetoric and results indicate, does your denigration of idealists present any meaningful dialog or solutions? To me it is just defeatist and destructive to perpetuate the status quo which got us here in the first place.

thomaswong.1986 says

By the way.. they (illegal citizens) are also liable for all Mexican Income Taxes on incomes earned in the US. This is also the case with many other nations Tax laws.

You are supposed to be some kind of accounting/tax guy and you wrote this? What a joke. You know nothing about tax laws. The US and Eritrea are the only countries on the planet that have income tax on non resident citizens. By definition illegals working (and therefor living) in the US are non resident in Mexico. Your depth of ignorance about what is supposedly your chosen field never fails to astound me.

sbh says

SCOTUS elected Bush.

When did we start using all of this SCOTUS POTUS hocus pocus?

Why not call it "the supreme court" and "the president" like we used to do?

freak80 says

sbh says

SCOTUS elected Bush.

When did we start using all of this SCOTUS POTUS hocus pocus?

Why not call it "the supreme court" and "the president" like we used to do?

COMSYMP?

HydroCabron says

COMSYMP?

I admit...I had to "Google it."

Then again, I should have known you were a communist sympathizer. Anyone critical of the far-right is a communist! ;-)

From a letter Harry Reid sent to Boehner:

"I hated the Iraq War. I think I hated it as much as you hate the Affordable Care Act," Reid wrote.

"There were many gut-wrenching nights when I struggled over what I needed to do to end the carnage. In those days, when President Bush was Commander in Chief, I could have taken the steps that you are taking now to block Government funding in order to gain leverage to end the war. I faced a lot of pressure from my own base to take that action. But I did not do that. I felt that it would have been devastating to America."

And since Reid would have been opposing a Conservatarian president, he would have been a COMSYMP traitor.

Only Conservatarians are allowed to destroy our system when they don't get what they want.

sbh says

AICSIFMTT

(All I Can Say is Fuck Me to Tears)

thomaswong.1986 says

An illegal alien has no legal residence standings inside in the USA. That should be obvious, that is why they are shipped back to Mexico.

For all purposes they are still Legal residence of Mexico. Like I said this is obvious.

When and where did these illegal aliens exactly declare legally to the Mexican Tax authority they were legally residence of the USA ? and when did the US Govt or IRS approve of there legal status for tax purpoes ?

An illegal alien having legal residence is contradiction on its own both from the Mexican side and USA side.

Therefore as still legal residence of Mexico there World Wide income is fully taxable under Article 1 of the Mexican Tax laws..

Just in case by some miracle you were actually correct about something I double checked on this one with both deloitte and kpmg databases. I found that:

Residence for tax purposes in Mexico (citizen or not) is determined by the whether a person establishes a home in mexico. Period. That's all folks. If a person has a home in Mexico and another country (not many illegals fall in this category) then a vital interest test is used. If more than 50% of income is Mexican derived or a persons main center of professional activities is in Mexico then they are resident for tax purposes.

So I will type this really slowly, not that I believe you will be able to grasp it. If a Mexican citizen doesn't live in Mexico they aren't subject to Mexican taxes. Where they live or their immigration status is totally irrelevant.

I guess obvious and legal aren't one and the same.

zzyzzx says

The one problem with that image is that it should be Boehner, not Obama, making the call if we are to be honest.

Yes, Obama sucks ass, but the government shutdown is completely the fault of Republicans and "I gotta keep my job at any price" Boehner.

Gandhi. Everybody likes Gandhi.

thomaswong.1986 says

Establish residency by LEGAL channels only. Does not apply to illegal methods,

Since when did Illegal Aliens who slipped out of Mexico or other Latin America LEGALLY

change their residence status and notify their respective governments taxing authority ?

At which point did the the US recognize them as legal US residence for tax purposes.

Its all common sense backed up by actual laws written on the books...

Your making up shit that doesnt exist... typical !

I have to really question if you graduated 6th grade. You obviously didn't read your own links. RESIDENTS are required to inform the Mexican government of changes in status, not citizens. The reason is to allow them to cancel your residence visa. Resident is a legal definition of a non citizen living in a country. Every country in the world uses the same terminology.

The US doesn't have to recognize anyone. People just have to be physically out of their country. That's the standard around the world. Even for the US. When I file my 2555 every year there isn't any question on it that asks if I have legal residency anywhere else. It only asks if I have been out of the country 330 days. When I filed a notice of permanent immigration for my residency in France they didn't even ask where I was going. I just pulled up my current countries notice of immigration form. Nothing about legal residency at all.

Here, straight from the IRS publication Foreign Earned Income Exclusion - Requirements.

A U.S. citizen or a U.S. resident alien who is physically present in a foreign country or countries for at least 330 full days during any period of 12 consecutive months.

The very specific requirement for FEIE is physically present, not legally present. That's the laws on the books for the US and almost every other country has the same thing. If you care to show me the part in Mexican tax law that stipulates Mexican citizens must be legally present in a foreign country for tax reasons then feel free post it. Otherwise you are just making shit up.

Yeah the Spanish were no picnic either. Look what they did to the Aztecs.

Then again, the Aztecs were pretty barbaric.

I'm not sure which side was worse.

thomaswong.1986 says

Once again your mixing legal and illegal residence/citizens.. so why are Illegals shipped back if they so call have legal residence ?

You are the most confused person I've ever seen. You don't have to be a legal resident in another country to be tax non resident in your home country. You only have to be physically out of your home country. You can be an illegal alien, you can be cruising around the world on your yacht, you can be travelling continually from country to country without establishing residency (called perpetual travellers, pts, permanent tourists, or prior taxpayer). What part of that concept is beyond your comprehension level? Post the part of your links that says you have to establish legal residency in another country to qualify as non resident for tax purposes in your home country. You can't , it's not there. In Mexico or anywhere else.

Mexican citizens and residents are taxed on world wide income while physically resident in Mexico or earn more than 50% of their money in Mexico. You've posted that, didn't you read it?

Post the part of the Mexican tax law that proves me wrong. You've had 5 chances to do that, I haven't seen it yet. Repeating the same bs time and time again doesn't make it true. I haven't been brainwashed by any liberals and unlike you by any conservatives eiither. Moderates actually think for themselves rather than just chanting whatever bullshit they are handed. Are you really standing by the highly suspect story you are some kind of tax/finance/accounting guy?