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it's funny how she keeps trying to make some silly mockery as if she has something important to contribute.

Rin says

Strategist says

Rin says

Montreal QC is the best kept open secret of the northeast. If you spend similar amounts of cash (and of course you do your homework a little bit), the quality of fun will be a lot more and you get all the enmities of a low crime, first world city.

You are enticing me Rin, I'm getting excited.

If I can manage to call it a business trip I might even get a tax write off.

I'm happy to have inspired you.

Now that I'm not having kids, when I'm retired, this will be my regular hobby, in addition to being the Renaissance man.

I got 50 bucks that says that you'll have kids when you are 65.

Rin says

Now that I'm not having kids, when I'm retired, this will be my regular hobby, in addition to being the Renaissance man.

theoakman says

I got 50 bucks that says that you'll have kids when you are 65.

Well, I've got a bunch of guys, in their late 30s to early 50s, who're on suicide watch, as a result of having wife and kids.

If I end up on that list, I'll invest in getting a false identity and bolting out of the country. I'll see you in Cambodia, if that happens!

Sex and beer? That sounds like torture.

I'm ready for mine. ;-)

jvolstad says

Sex and beer? That sounds like torture.

Imagine the hell the two 18 year olds went through. Their lives will never be the same again.

Just draft your own contracts with your babe (having them looked over by a lawyer can't hurt in this case), keep the government out of your personal life and live happily ever after!

mell says

Statistically & mathematically speaking the frequency of sex is anti-proportional to the length of the marriage/relationship, whereas the psychological stress and pressure exerted from the female side mounts. In case of marriage most men try to endure it because they know they will get raped in divorce court, but eventually the woman will divorce anyways. Getting married in this society is odds-wise a suckers bet for men and that is why marriage rates will continue to decline. Another problem is that most females thrive on interpersonal drama, i.e. get psychological energy, some even physical energy out of it, while for males it's a complete energy drain - that is why hardly any men watch reality tv, but most women do. This statement has generalizations, but easily holds up to the 80/20 rule, probably more like 95/5 ;)

since they invented 'free love' basically the pattern is that women date(ie. fuck) the studs in their 20s and when they start getting old and fat suddenly they fall in love with John Corporate Pay Check or Mr. Military Pension to secure themselves for old age. So there is really little payoff for men in this situation. The deal men get is some used up crazy bitch in her late 20s early 30s.

Increasingly men are just looking for different avenues ranging from homosexual, metrosexual, foreign brides, you name it- anything to avoid the horrid American woman.

mell says

Just draft your own contracts with your babe (having them looked over by a lawyer can't hurt in this case), keep the government out of your personal life and live happily ever after!

prenuptial agreements are commonly thrown out in court.

mell says

Just draft your own contracts with your babe (having them looked over by a lawyer can't hurt in this case), keep the government out of your personal life and live happily ever after!

Well many pre-nups have been thrown out. Plus if you have kids, the wifey can take them and get unreasonable child support, get boob implants , lock your kids in the basement and give them soup and shack up with a younger man and you can't say anything. She is still the victim-so say the feminists.

The Original Bankster says

mell says

Just draft your own contracts with your babe (having them looked over by a lawyer can't hurt in this case), keep the government out of your personal life and live happily ever after!

prenuptial agreements are commonly thrown out in court.

True, that's why I'd advise not to get married with a prenup but simply cohabitate (while avoiding states with common law marriage) with reviewed and mutually agreed upon contracts. There is no 100% foolproof method, but with this you usually weed out the worst.

lostand confused says

mell says

Just draft your own contracts with your babe (having them looked over by a lawyer can't hurt in this case), keep the government out of your personal life and live happily ever after!

Well many pre-nups have been thrown out. Plus if you have kids, the wifey can take them and get unreasonable child support, get boob implants , lock your kids in the basement and give them soup and shack up with a younger man and you can't say anything. She is still the victim-so say the feminists.

See above, there's a sliding scale of risk/financial damage (married w/o prenup, married w/ prenup, not married but cohabitating with contract, not married and not cohabitating with contract etc.). Yes, kids complicate the situation again not in favor of the man, but if you follow the above you usually weed out the worst and chances are better for an amicable agreement. Child support/alimony can be steep, but if you have/make lots of appreciating assets/investments, you fare much better financially than with marriage. If this is still too much risk, you have to take one of the entirely different avenues.. ;)

This is damning evidence....

bob2356 says

I would have kept my mouth shut and went back as many times a possible just for the free beer, never mind the bonus of getting laid.

Rin says

I'm from the school of thought that the Renaissance man concept of prior centuries, like Johann Goethe, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, etc, died off during the postwar era where a man's life's purpose was to be, little more than a worker bee producing 2.x children to continue the society.

Goethe was a member of Privy Council to the Duke of Saxe-Weimar;
Franklin was the leading publisher of his time;
Jefferson owned one of the largest plantations in Virginia.

Those were not average worker men, but the equivalent of the head of Goldman Sachs, Google and billionaire landlords like Sam Zell and Donald Sterling of their own time. They all had serfs, peasants, servants or slaves taking care of their chores, so they could focus on cranking their big brains and their libidos! Yes, all three were very libidous men!

So by me, resurrecting the concept as the modern Renaissance man, then as others follow suit, I can merely decrement my level to just another Renaissance man.

Who the heck are you? Some upper-middle peasant? If you have to work for a living, you do not have the time to be a Renaissance Man. If you can not afford to procreate and/or keep several mistresses content and their offsprings sired by you properly fed and educated, your credential is dubious at best.

Reality says

Who the heck are you? Some upper-middle peasant? If you have to work for a living, you do not have the time to be a Renaissance Man.

Hence, my exit strategy. My stake in this fund will be bought out and then, I'll have all the time in the world.

Warren Buffet, Hank Paulson, and many of the other rich guys out there are intellectually bankrupt and also, probably don't have high end strippers either, as they completely lack imagination.

Richard Branson, of Virgin Atlantic, is the closest to a billionaire Renaissance man today.

New Renter says

with wives they now find unattractive who would love that fate.

Spanking the monkey or going to a cathouse?

Rin says

New Renter says

with wives they now find unattractive who would love that fate.

Spanking the monkey or going to a cathouse?

Wives leaving them the hell alone so they can get on a proper groove.

I love Pat.net.

I use it daily as a bench mark to confirm my sanity.

Good lord you people are straight fucked up.

dodgerfanjohn says

I love Pat.net.

I use it daily as a bench mark to confirm my sanity.

Good lord you people are straight fucked up.

how pathetic that not only are these people obsessed with home ownership, they have virtually no lives and spend most of it on a web forum ABOUT homeownership where most of the users sit around and develop wishful thinking about their property prices.

its so pathetic. by losers Im going to ride my motorcycle up to flagstaff, get some chili, and maybe camp out tonight.

The Original Bankster says

dodgerfanjohn says

I love Pat.net.

I use it daily as a bench mark to confirm my sanity.

Good lord you people are straight fucked up.

how pathetic that not only are these people obsessed with home ownership, they have virtually no lives and spend most of it on a web forum ABOUT homeownership where most of the users sit around and develop wishful thinking about their property prices.

its so pathetic. by losers Im going to ride my motorcycle up to flagstaff, get some chili, and maybe camp out tonight.

I hear the scorpions will be particularly active tonight

Sleep tight!

New Renter says

Chances are you will find yourself in some situation.

Even Renaissance man Thomas Jefferson ended up banging his enslaved half-sister-by-marriage.

Nah, I'll keep my residence, outside of the Quebec province :-)

Strategist says

"Look honey, I am a normal male...I need sex. It's not a choice, I need to have it because without it I cannot function. I either get it from you, or I get it from someone else.....You decide"

Lie back, grit your teeth, and think of the Empire!

Strategist says

I either get it from you, or I get it from someone else.....You decide

That's like an invitation to being taken to the cleaners.

This isn't a French or Thai wife, we don't support a mistress culture within the 49 states. I'm leaving Utah out of this discussion.

jazz music says

Rin says

leaving Utah out

high five on that one .... maybe add Florida, they are $preading their big love.

Florida's a new one for me.

jazz music says

This makes the workplace less worth being a part of

There. Large organizations are all like that. Simple human nature.

New Renter says

Strategist says

"Look honey, I am a normal male...I need sex. It's not a choice, I need to have it because without it I cannot function. I either get it from you, or I get it from someone else.....You decide"

Lie back, grit your teeth, and think of the Empire!

Rin says

Strategist says

I either get it from you, or I get it from someone else.....You decide

That's like an invitation to being taken to the cleaners.

This isn't a French or Thai wife, we don't support a mistress culture within the 49 states. I'm leaving Utah out of this discussion.

If you aint getting it you have to do something. Show some balls.

jazz music says

Peter P says

Large organizations are all like that

Maybe, but being in a local business requires a completely different set of traits: one has to be honest and even upright. It feels great, weasels crash and burn as they well should.

You will be surprised. Politics is unavoidable in all organizations larger than two.

Everyone is susceptible to his own human weaknesses: flattery, back-handed flattery, etc. This is caused by a mismatch between reality and the perceived ideal.

Peter P says

Data is a lie's best friend.

Rejecting alternative belief systems makes "science" a bona fide religion.

Not belief systems, but Theories, YES!

Science has become a religion of one Theory.

Then they don't even acknowledge how wrong they often are, even after news later reveals that last years breakthrough discovery, wasn't a breakthrough at all. And the results can't be reproduced.

I think when you stop looking, you stop discovering. People are clinging to notions and ideas, rather than getting real science. All it takes for one to be Scientist anymore. Is to be well read on other people's work. It becomes nothing more than a Technical Book Club, with fans that defends plots and characters to the bitter end.

For every guy in the lab, with curiosity and a thirst for knowledge. There are 1,000 scientist out there "ALL IN" on scientific debates, that has not stepped foot in a lab since they left high school or college. Probably more than that, of people that has never been in a lab at all.

Captain, scientists are political creatures too. :-)

Admitting mistakes makes someone look bad.

Besides, data can be used to support any theory. Consequently, the scientific community, as an organism, purports the theories that would give them the most attention and funding.

No wonder they always say that the sky is falling... or the ocean is rising...

Whatever.

CaptainShuddup says

Then they don't even acknowledge how wrong they often are, even after news later reveals that last years breakthrough discovery, wasn't a breakthrough at all. And the results can't be reproduced.

I think when you stop looking, you stop discovering. People are clinging to notions and ideas, rather than getting real science. All it takes for one to be Scientist anymore. Is to be well read on other people's work. It becomes nothing more than a Technical Book Club, with fans that defends plots and characters to the bitter end.

For every guy in the lab, with curiosity and a thirst for knowledge. There are 1,000 scientist out there "ALL IN" on scientific debates, that has not stepped foot in a lab since they left high school or college. Probably more than that, of people that has never been in a lab at all.

Jesus Captain, you are an idiot.

" even after news later reveals that last years breakthrough discovery, wasn't a breakthrough at all. And the results can't be reproduced. "

Wtf are you talking about? The opposite is true. When news comes out that the result can not be reproduced, everyone is all over it !

CaptainShuddup says

For every guy in the lab, with curiosity and a thirst for knowledge. There are 1,000 scientist out there "ALL IN" on scientific debates, that has not stepped foot in a lab since they left high school or college. Probably more than that, of people that has never been in a lab at all.

Thats not as big a problem as you wish it to be. Most of break through work in physics, is theoretical and backed by Math, long before it is ever verified in a lab or by observations. Some of Eintein's theories weren't verified until long after he died.

Your arrogance is the really stunning part. How is it that someone so lacking in intelligence can think they are smarter than all the experts ?

This is what makes you a typical republican. If you were smart enough to respect people that are WAY more intelligent than you, you'd be a democrat.

Yeah, right. Science is religion." I guess this gives the right wing American retards the permission to reject anything they want. "Durrr... me can think just as good as that smarty pants 'scientist' from M.I.T."

Or as the captain would write it. "Me. Can think. Just as good. As that smarty pants. Scientist from M.I.T."

This thread is useless without pics.