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For Marcus, put this sign up on the wall in your classroom tomorrow for all your students to see. It will make you feel better!
You wish I was half the idiot and half the asswipe that you and dodgerfanDumb are.
Interesting that you have no comment not even slightest on the content of my comment. I provided links that show what a psycho Zimmerman is, and I observe what nobody can deny, which is that if Zimmerman had stayed in his car as instructed, there would have been no killing that night.
the witness’s account of the unarmed Brown charging Wilson--even after he had been shot in the hand during a struggle at the cop’s patrol car--supports the officer’s contention that he fired a series of shots as Brown bore down on him.
Good thing there just happened to be a witness there helping to justify SHOOTING HIM 6 TIMES !! Including twice in the head.
So this person "Josie" who is a family friend of wilson's is what his being let off the hook is based on ?
It's a yes or no question.
while those who try and protect you are the bad guys.
They can be. Hopefully you won't get one who doesn't like you. I was in a store one time when a cop came in and threatened to arrest the clerk and he was just "having fun".
Just give him a couple of donuts and he will be on his way.
WTH would a jury of his peers be judging him on?!??
They would listen to the witnesses who said he charged the deputy and others who said he didn't and decide who was lying on the stand. That is what trials are for.
That happens never. You are very ignorant of criminal law in the US as is Marcus.
Under your standard I could walk into a police station with a black eye, say that bg mall punched me, and we'd go straight to trial.
That happens never. You are very ignorant of criminal law in the US as is Marcus.
Under your standard I could walk into a police station with a black eye, say that bg mall punched me, and we'd go straight to trial.
Read the timeline above from CNN. You can't say Wilson was in the right. I don't personally believe he was considering the timeline.
CNN doesn't have all the facts, not by a long shot. The Grand Jury did.
Just how bad would it have to be for CIC or dogerfan to think that just maybe it was excessive force and maybe just a little bit unnecessary.
That is 6 shots including two in the head.
Just how bad would it have to be for CIC or dogerfan to think that just maybe it was excessive force and maybe just a little bit unnecessary.
That is 6 shots including two in the head.
Now you are just flat out lying. Your interpretation of events omits relevant facts.
Again I ask Marcus, why do you hate facts and evidence?
I assume it's due to your racist bias.
And as far as the Michael Brown case is concerned, there is enough evidence here to indict: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/08/us/ferguson-brown-timeline/
Conspiracies 24/7 has rotted your brain. The CNN article is crap and neither time line makes any sense. How does someone sitting in a car reach up and grab someone 6'4 by the neck? Why would someone walk away after being shot? It is such garbage that even you shouldn't bother with it.
The only thing to come out of this whole mess is the fact that the training at SLPD (and far too many other pd's) is criminally incompetent. Too bad no one is pointing it out. No competent well trained cop would have ever been in that position.
The Community is hopeless when it's too dumb to understand that a grand jury consists of their own people to represent them and to override the justice system. Last night's reaction to the verdict is proof they still don't have a clue.
I root for the anti American, Police state apologists to meet their comeuppance
This was predictable and is observable here. There is a bias against blacks in America, which results in them getting killed and in the public not giving a shit.
Second, is bias in favor of police. People assign all kinds of qualities---manliness, heroism, archetypal qualities-- to cops.
The de facto policy is that cops can kill blacks and nearly always get away with it.
What I don't get is why conservatives so willingly fall in love with the police, who are simply Gendarmes for the State, to be used to further the goals of the State.
I suspect they have daddy issues, but that's for a later discussion.
Right wingers are just as much statists as the left
They are very loyal to the state. Just most whites are inherently racist against blacks
Now you are just flat out lying. Your interpretation of events omits relevant facts.
Again I ask Marcus, why do you hate facts and evidence?
I assume it's due to your racist bias.
Why did the officer use inflammatory language right at the beginning to tell those boys to get off the road? It wasn't necessary and it started the ball rolling. It could have been avoided entirely.
Okay so it's official.. When some people or perhaps even many people have childhood trauma or even a bad childhood, their brains don't develop properly and what you get is ignorance and IQs that are probably below 90 which allows them to believe in false stories.
That's the only way I can explain this. Anyone else want to give it a shot?
SBH...it's a step up.
Dollar Tree, etc are being looted.
Who in the world loots a Dollar Tree?
It's not that they are dumb.
It's not that they don't have a clue.
They riot for the sake of rioting.
They loot for the sake of looting.
All they need is a semblance of a reason.
The Community is hopeless when it's too dumb to understand that a grand jury consists of their own people to represent them and to override the justice system. Last night's reaction to the verdict is proof they still don't have a clue.
For you, sitting high in your vegas ivory tower, it appears to be inflammatory language.
Ghetto language is not inflammatory when used in the ghetto.
It is just a local dialect to the inhabitants.
Why did the officer use inflammatory language right at the beginning to tell those boys to get off the road?
+1.
This is the best description of the DNC I've ever read...
When some people or perhaps even many people have childhood trauma or even a bad childhood, their brains don't develop properly and what you get is ignorance and IQs that are probably below 90 which allows them to believe in false stories.
Now you are just flat out lying. Your interpretation of events omits relevant facts.
Again I ask Marcus, why do you hate facts and evidence?
I assume it's due to your racist bias.
Why did the officer use inflammatory language right at the beginning to tell those boys to get off the road? It wasn't necessary and it started the ball rolling. It could have been avoided entirely.
What? It's the only language teenagers in high crime neighborhoods understand.
If you had an iPhone you would have got the memo.
Or an Obamaphone!
Yeah, everyone in Ferguson has an Obamaphone, and got the message.
It is group think, it is the same with any riot. People in a group are not rational.
Same thing happened in LA in 92. You had a few gang members who got the riot going and the rest joined in.
Hell they did the same thing when the Lakers won.
It will last the same amount of time about 3 days.
It is group think, it is the same with any riot. People in a group are not rational.
Same thing happened in LA in 92. You had a few gang members who got the riot going and the rest joined in.
Hell they did the same thing when the Lakers won.
It will last the same amount of time about 3 days.
The real irrational act is the police just standing by watching the rioters destroy everything in sight.
The real irrational act is the police just standing by watching the rioters destroy everything in sight.
That part is not group think, that is a cop doing a quick tally then deciding he is out numbered. Maybe if he has a Custer mentality or an M35 it would be different.
It's beyond tragic that Americans are in uproar to the citizens of Ferguson reacting to police murdering a local kid with no repercussions. Yet those same Americans not only aren't speaking out against the fascist police state, they seem to be supporting their brutality. Bizarro world
First, they came for the Jews , and I said nothing, Because I'm not a Jew
Then, they came for the blacks, and I said nothing because I am not black
citizens of Ferguson reacting to police murdering a local kid with no repercussions.
You really see it that way? Good mota Aunt B.
Don't get me wrong the police state is becoming more and more coercive, but not in this case. Or as much as the media would have you believe, with the Rodney King case
If Brown did assault Wilson, and if there was a struggle for his gun, it wouldn't be unusual for Wilson to fear for his life. If Brown did charge Wilson after these events, lethal force is a likely outcome.
Up here in Washington state, cops kill folks who brush up against officers with their cars while fleeing, irrespective of color. That doesn't seem right at all. In these cases policy needs to change, but there have been no grand juries convened.
It's beyond tragic that Americans are in uproar to the citizens of Ferguson reacting to police murdering a local kid with no repercussions. Yet those same Americans not only aren't speaking out against the fascist police state, they seem to be supporting their brutality. Bizarro world
First, they came for the Jews , and I said nothing, Because I'm not a Jew
Then, they came for the blacks, and I said nothing because I am not black
I agree on the dangers of the police state but it has nothing to do with racism. Minority cops in the bay area will tell you the same thing, they are simply more afraid in problem districts and they know the crime statistics by race. We could start breaking that cycle with drug legalization which then wouldn't get people in problem and socially poor areas into prison into the first place. It's a start, be practical about it. Screaming racism accomplishes nothing.
Sad store owner who was robbed by Michael Brown had his store looted last night.
Store owner who was robbed by Michael Brown had his store looted last night.
Racist! ;)
Sad store owner who was robbed by Michael Brown had his store looted last night.
And the reason he doesn't have a M134 in hand is???
Screaming racism accomplishes nothing.
Don't tell that to Sharpton or Jackson.
Thats how those two make their living.
This could have been avoided by a real trial.
I doubt that. It would delay the inevitable looting by blacks.
This could have been avoided by a real trial. There are conflicting reports as to Brown's actions after the initial confrontation in the cop car. Those should have been sorted out by a jury of Wilson's peers. They would have been mostly black and the prosecutor feared that.
There wasn't enough evidence to support having a real trial! The preponderance of evidence supported the cop's story, and he was just doing his job. A grand jury just decides if there is a decent chance that the person is guilty of something. This jury decided that there was not. This is why people call you nuts, Gary. Because you believe blindly in things both unseen and contrary to evidence. So when you might actually have a point about something controversial, people just assume you're still wearing your tin hat. How can you expect to gain credibility when you seem to lack judgement?
Is this amount of retaliation to private citizens and businesses justified for the "murdering" of Brown?
IT's the wrong question. WOuld I be pissed if I were a member of the black community there ? Yes. Does it justify vandalism or violence ? Of course not. Are most of those punks out there dirt bags, yes, although most are probably kids, so that's a little harsh, but being kids doesn't excuse it.
This case is different than TRayvon Martin in that there were witnesses that saw what happened. Possibly (JUST POSSIBLY) the black community trusts the witnesses who back Johnson's story. He was there. My point being that in this case it may really be a travesty that there will be no trial, for at least 2nd degree murder.
But of course it doesn't justify the violence.
On a side note, I wonder how many businesses in Ferguson were burned down by their owners for the insurance money last night. Probably at least one or two of those.
On a side note, I wonder how many businesses in Ferguson were burned down by their owners for the insurance money last night. Probably at least one or two of those.
On a side note how many teachers do a piss poor job?
This case is different than TRayvon Martin in that there were witnesses that saw what happened. Possibly (JUST POSSIBLY) the black community trusts the witnesses who back Johnson's story. He was there. My point being that in this case it may really be a travesty that there will be no trial, for at least 2nd degree murder.
But you aren't racist.....
I'll add this. In the abstract I do see a kind of symmetry to this.
On the one hand, the message that the killing sends to the community is that citizens should be very cautious and comply with police, and do not fuck with the police, OR ELSE.
THe community answers back. Don't push your fucking police state attitude too far, OR ELSE.
What we saw last night in Ferguson is that we aren't far at all from chaos an anarchy. A few hundred people blocked the freeway in protest and while the cops were distracted, a few hundred others looted an burned the town. Anarchy means death in most times and places. People destroying their communities leads to them killing each other, leads to a complete breakdown of the social trust, and then you have every man or family or gang for themselves. It's impossible to have a functioning economy in such a situation. And cities of millions become death traps for all who reside therein. The only way to have a society like ours, a population like ours, is to have a perfectly tuned food and goods delivery system with an equally tuned economy. If the breaks down, 90-95% of everyone in cities would die within weeks.
This is why people look at ferguson and cheer the cops, because no cause, no petty racist claim, is greater than group survival.
Those idiots just made their town into a ghetto. Think the stores will rebuild and reopen? Many will not, taking the insurance money and getting out while the getting is good.
I expect that ferguson real estate will soon be as popular as Detroit, which is sad for the non black residents who didn't deserve this. My wife's friend lives there and is really sad and upset about all this. She can't understand how her town went from being a nice town to being a ghetto.
She can't understand how her town went from being a nice town to being a ghetto.
Certainly an incompetent cop is partly to blame. Will anybody be worrying about body cameras and more rigorous training for cops after this ?
In many places last night there were nonviolent fairly well behaved protests.
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