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mell says

There are a lot of problems there, none of which can be solved by somebody with a 114MM contract kneeling at the Anthem

Bullshit. Have you ever studied Dr. King?

PCGyver says

Let me guess, you hate liberal

Nope, i find them amusing. But I also fear them, their unbridled hate and willingness to use violence to drown out the opposition free speech rights is very dangerous, especially when they cloak it under peace, tolerance, love and righteousness.

lostand confused says

trump exercised his free speech, now if he passed a law or an executive order on the same-I would be up in arms condemning him. he expressed his opinion-oh the irony-liberals now claim free speech itself is under threat because the president used his first amendment rights-hate, hate, hate.

He would be well within his rights to express his opinion as a private citizen. The problem is he is speaking as the leader of the United States trying to silence a private citizen's free speech.

joeyjojojunior says

He would be well within his rights to express his opinion as a private citizen. The problem is he is speaking as the leader of the United States trying to silence a private citizen's free speech.

No he is not. he is expressing his opinon in a campaign rally. NFL does not have to listen and in fact the NFL commisioner came out against him -I think.

Now if he even does any steps against NFL-that would alarm me tremendously. Because if it starts there, it can go anywhere and must be vigorously opposed.

But by twisting this into a free speech issue- WHEN THE LEFT IS DEMANDING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES NOT USE HIS FREE SPEECH RIGHTS-that scares normal people even more. if the president can't express his opinion-who can???? Yeah I know-only one who expresses leftie view and sings kumbaya of kapernick. Any opposing view has to be drowned out -hate, hate, hate.

lostand confused says

No he is not. he is expressing his opinon in a campaign rally

When you become President of the United States, you speak for the United States.

lostand confused says

But by twisting this into a free speech issue- WHEN THE LEFT IS DEMANDING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES NOT USE HIS FREE SPEECH RIGHTS-that scares normal people even more. if the president can't express his opinion-who can???? Yeah I know-only one who expresses leftie view and sings kumbaya of kapernick. Any opposing view has to be drowned out -hate, hate, hate.

Give me a break. The left is alerting people that the President of the United States is advocating for limiting the free speech of private citizens. That should bother you. Why doesn't it?

joeyjojojunior says

When you become President of the United States, you speak for the United States

Free peech and taking action are two different things-which eludes lefties.

joeyjojojunior says

Give me a break. The left is alerting people that the President of the United States is advocating for limiting the free speech of private citizens. That should bother you. Why doesn't it?

The left is upto their usual tricks-attempting to silence the president of the United States no less. This should be alarming. if the president praised Kapernick-the left would be very happy. Since he says something different-they erupt into their usual hateful, bigoted nonsense-cloaked in their peace,tolerance love cloak.

This is arming-very alarming for all Americans . Only one way of thought and speech is allowed-anything else-EVEN the President of the United states dare not open his mouth-or else. We live in scary times-Thank God for trump.

joeyjojojunior says

What isn't allowed is the President of the US trying to stifle free speech, however.

Stifle? Who are you, Archie Bunker?

Just remember what these overpaid mooks are protesting - labeling all our cops as a bunch of murderous racists. Remember Kaepernick's socks?



Of all the problems facing the black community. Being randomly murdered by a racist cop is pretty low on the list statistically.

This is the hill the NFL and Democrats want to die on?

To me, it feels like the players who refuse to stand are calling me, and everyone else who does stand in honor of our country, racists.

Half of the country votes to the right. An equally great number of NFL fans vote to the right. They respect and honor these black football players. Surprise! That’s where your huge paychecks comes from.

Try as you might, no one will ever see you as Rosa Parks, the real badass, when you return to the locker room to put on your Armani silk suit and drink champagne in the stretch back to the Hilton suite.

joeyjojojunior says

Free speech is obviously only worth defending when it's Milo or Alex Jones or the KKK marching. When it's a black athlete--shut up and play nice.

Yep. When a white IT guy who isn't on TV can write a memo on not be fired. When a couple can refuse to bake a cake because they don't endorse gay marriage. Yet an employee on live television can conduct a protest while on the employer's time, and suffer no reprecussions. However, if he wore Cancer Awareness or 9/11 Remembrance eye black, the NFL would fine his ass more than most people make in a month as they've done time and time again to fellow Players. I remember when they banned the Cowboys wearing decals to remember the murdered cops at all regular games.

Total Bullshit.

Joey Democrat is at it in full force today. This must be a battleground topic that was identified by his manager early this morning.

Recruit thugs, get a thug outcome. Makes perfect sense.

Loyalty to country is too abstract when you are focussed on narrow warlord tribalism, and football is if anything a re-enactment of narrow tribalism. Most of them are going to lose their money in idiot, grandiose ways and die with brain damage, which for most of them, was a narrow ledge to begin with.

Drop the anthem, there IS no higher purpose for these guys.

The owners are just big business whores worried about their money.

Those NFL players are just acting like spoiled liberal pricks.

It was inevitable with BLM, thug culture, and everything else that this behavior would rear it's head in the NFL. Lets see if throwing black power signs becomes the norm next every time a white gets tackled.

rpanic01 says

It was inevitable with BLM, thug culture, and everything else that this behavior would rear it's head in the NFL. Lets see if throwing black power signs becomes the norm next every time a white gets tackled.

Hahaha. Things like this were once goofball speculation... not anymore, sadly! Seriously though, fuck the NFL on this. They need to reel this in quick or they are going to suffer quite a bit at the hands of former fans.

lostand confused says

Free peech and taking action are two different things-which eludes lefties.

Nope--The President of the US and a private citizen are two different things. Seems to elude you.


lostand confused says

The left is upto their usual tricks-attempting to silence the president of the United States no less.

lol--you're hilarious. The President is trying to stifle free speech and once again Trumpkins try to turn it around. Has there every been a bigger bunch of babies? The only thing they are good at is feeling sorry for themselves and complaining about how mistreated they are. Get over yourself already.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Yep. When a white IT guy who isn't on TV can write a memo on not be fired. When a couple can refuse to bake a cake because they don't endorse gay marriage. Yet an employee on live television can conduct a protest while on the employer's time, and suffer no reprecussions. However, if he wore Cancer Awareness or 9/11 Remembrance eye black, the NFL would fine his ass more than most people make in a month as they've done time and time again to fellow Players. I remember when they banned the Cowboys wearing decals to remember the murdered cops at all regular games

What's bullshit is your utter hypocrisy. You want/demand ESPN to fire Jamele Hill, but throw a pissy fit when the IT gets fired. In both cases it is up to their employer to decide whether or not repercussions are necessary. Once again the Trumpkins are like whiny babies. Do you want Big Government to make all the rules for society? Is that your solution?

If you don't like the NFL, don't fucking watch it. That is your choice. That's how things work in a free society. If you don't like ESPN, don't fucking watch it

anonymous says

Joey Democrat is at it in full force today. This must be a battleground topic that was identified by his manager early this morning.

That's right. I'm making big bucks.

Don't tell me you post for free CIC?

joeyjojojunior says

ol--you're hilarious. The President is trying to stifle free speech and once again Trumpkins try to turn it around. Has there every been a bigger bunch of babies? The only thing they are good at is feeling sorry for themselves and complaining about how mistreated they are. Get over yourself already.

Same old, same old. Does logic ever enter that leftist fog or are you ina perpetual state of trigglypuff.??/
Once aaain-the president stated his opinion in a campaign rally no less. The left goes bonkers and wants him silenced. It is you who are and have been trying to stifle free speech for decades. Only one form of thought and speech allowed and it has to be approved by us.

lostand confused says

Same old, same old. Does logic ever enter that leftist fog or are you ina perpetual state of trigglypuff.??/
Once aaain-the president stated his opinion in a campaign rally no less. The left goes bonkers and wants him silenced. It is you who are and have been trying to stifle free speech for decades. Only one form of thought and speech allowed and it has to be approved by us.

He's campaigning as the President of the United States. I don't want him silenced at all. I want him to start behaving like the leader of the free world and someone who wants to defend the Constitution of the United States.

It's ironic that you say only one form of thought and speech is allowed because that is EXACTLY what Trump is saying. Kaep's free speech shouldn't be allowed.

If you don't like impingement of free speech, you should be outraged by Trump's statement.

me123 says

TwoScoopsMcGee says

You gonna pony up that part of the US Code where it says the President doesn't have Freedom of Speech?

The part where it says the President will uphold the Constitution?

joeyjojojunior says

You want/demand ESPN to fire Jamele Hill,

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In case you weren't aware, there is huge difference between WANTING and DEMANDING.

Who demanded?

joeyjojojunior says

EXACTLY what Trump is saying. Kaep's free speech shouldn't be allowed.

No he is not. You liberals and propoganda. if I go to my work and go to meetings and kneel during meetings and call white people racists and whit privileged fools-i will be fired. That is nto free speech-that is soemone else's business-their rules-the same as the NFL.

lostand confused says

No he is not. You liberals and propoganda. if I go to my work and go to meetings and kneel during meetings and call white people racists and whit privileged fools-i will be fired. That is nto free speech-that is soemone else's business-their rules-the same as the NFL.

Yep, you might get fired. It's up to your employer.

In this case, it is/was up to the NFL. Not you. Not Trump.

The only free speech issue is Trump trying to stifle a private citizen. And Trump telling a business how it should treat its employees.

Are you in favor of Big Government telling private businesses how to run their operations? I never pictured you for a nanny state wannabe.

joeyjojojunior says

Are you in favor of Big Government telling private businesses how to run their operations? I never pictured you for a nanny state wannabe

The president of the United states expressed his free speech rights ina campaign rally. The end. Stop your spinning. Baghdad Bob would be proud of you.

lostand confused says

The president of the United states expressed his free speech rights ina campaign rally. The end. Stop your spinning. Baghdad Bob would be proud of you.

And that "free speech" was the President of the United States telling a private corporation how they should run their business.

me123 says

Good, so you want him to be the opposite of Obama, who bowed down to other countries 's leaders and ignored the constitution. Glad to see you woke up finally after 8 years.

And once again, Trump supporters show they cannot defend their President. Their only choice is to try to deflect and bring up Obama and/or Clinton.

NFL is disgrace if they surrender patriotism to some blm whiners.

joeyjojojunior says

And once again, Trump supporters show they cannot defend their President.

Once again, we see the hypocrisy of the Obama voters.

Today I spent some time with one of our hospitalized veterans as a VA Volunteer. This vet has been in a long term coma. His parents have asked me to visit their son whenever possible.

I'm sure he would love to be able to get out of bed and stand for the National Anthem.

joeyjojojunior says

Nope--The President of the US and a private citizen are two different things. Seems to elude you.

Hahahahahahahaha. Found that Section of the US Code yet?

How about Vice Presidents? Is their free speech restricted, those Nattering Nabobs of Negativity?

Meanwhile, in one of the most diehard Blue Areas of the country:
New England fans boo their own players.

http://nypost.com/2017/09/24/patriots-fans-rain-boos-on-own-players-for-anthem-protest/


Remember, the Flag and the Anthem aren't Trump. It actually reveals a great deal that the MSM and Left mix them up

Wait...are they protesting cops killing black people in greater numbers than other races(a notion that is false) or are they protesting Trump? Or is it something else?

If these imbeciles, and that is what they are, truly have one shit about black lives, they'd stop having kids they couldn't possibly properly raise and encourage the same of others.

No matter how hard the AltLeft and greedy, cowardly NFL try, the National Anthem isn't Trump.

Reminder: Kneeling for the anthem began under Obama. The AltLeft politicized this first. Turnabout is fair play, so maximum shame mode and personalization/demonization should be active. In more than a year, the NFL has taken no steps to restrict divisive political protests by their own employees on national television.

While it fines players for wearing Remember 9/11 cleats, the NFL all of a sudden has discovered Free Speech. They want it to go away fast, they figure it's better to appeal to the youth (but making a big mistake since most AltLeft hate Football), and are too afraid to discipline their employees for Making Divisive Political Statements During Work Hours, so they figure by inventing some "Unity" bullshit, they'll silence the detractors.

The NFL is trying to call kneeling for the National Anthem "unity", as if a slick ad that is so obnoxiously laughable and discordant is going to fool anybody.
"Nothing says unity that some players deliberately disrespecting the national anthem before a game on TV."

I mean, if you put this in a novel and submitted to a publisher, they'd reject it for pushing the boundaries of belief too far.

Keep Personalizing and Demonizing. Make Goodell and Kaepernick and other "Oppressed" Multimillionaires the focus. The incongruity of privileged, wealthy athletes complaining about Oppression.

Keep banging the issue. The fact the Blue Loyalists hate it so is a sign it's highly effective and very dangerous. Just like Hillary Clinton's book tour, where she blames dozens of groups for her loss, is beautiful self-inflicted wounds that should be encouraged.

Never get in your enemies way when he makes a mistake. Indeed, encourage it.

And again--you are free to not watch the NFL to your hearts content. That's called free choice.

Go shopping at Hobby Lobby and have Chick-Fil-A for lunch. That should make you feel better.

TwoScoopsMcGee says

The Politicization of Football began before Trump. It's time to hold the tax-exempt Monopoly responsible and not let them getting away with sweeping this under the rug. It's important that AltLeft Idenitarian Divisiveness be exposed and criticized.

In other words, it's time for the Nanny State Government to tell businesses how they need to operate. That's your theory?

TwoScoopsMcGee says

The swamp is a tax-free Billion-dollar entity claiming to be All American, fining Players for wearing 9/11 gear, but tolerating employees on the clock creating Divisiveness against the very country that makes their million-dollar income possible on national television.

No more, NFL. It's not going away.

Keep Attacking.

By all means--keep attacking!

You think attacking people for protesting is a winning move? lol--please keep it up!