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Trump wins Fight for 15 battle that socialist have been trying to win for years


               
2017 Dec 20, 11:46pm   6,901 views  33 comments

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17   anonymous   2017 Dec 21, 10:44am  

Socialism is taking money from A by force and giving it to B. Taking less from A is not socialism.

anotheraccount says
Strategist says
The tax cut that corporations get, trickles down to the 401K plans the citizen has, as does the increased wages and bonuses.


Does enough of it trickle down to compensate for the huge deficit that it will incur annually? I don't think. There is not historic evidence of that when the tax rates are already low.
18   HappyGilmore   @   2017 Dec 21, 9:23am  

Tenpoundbass says

Yes it's quite possible that rich people will make out to. What would you have us do? Reverse the $15 hour pay raises because some fatcats might benefit as well?

Do you clowns listen to yourselves?


Is this really so difficult to understand? Smart people would have you enact a tax plan that gave the majority of benefits to the middle class rather than the 1%.
19   anonymous   2017 Dec 21, 10:44am  

It's decided, Republicans are just a bunch of felchers.
20   anonymous   2017 Dec 21, 1:29pm  

HappyGilmore says
Is this really so difficult to understand? Smart people would have you enact a tax plan that gave the majority of benefits to the middle class rather than the 1%.


Does this look like it's going only to the 1%?

21   Tenpoundbass   @   2017 Dec 21, 2:16pm  

anon_961a0 says

Actually not giving the fat cats a tax cut when the economy is running just fine would be the answer.


Who says it's running fine?
People need more than a burger counter job if we're ever going to buy a house.
Sorry rent seekers people still are living the dream or at least dreaming the dream.

I say place a Federal Property tax on all Single Family homes that is not owner occupied.
Even multi family units make them sell them off to people that need a place to call their own.
22   Goran_K   @   2017 Dec 21, 3:09pm  

anon_8d9b9 says
HappyGilmore says
Is this really so difficult to understand? Smart people would have you enact a tax plan that gave the majority of benefits to the middle class rather than the 1%.


Does this look like it's going only to the 1%?



I believe that is called game, set, match.
23   bob2356   @   2017 Dec 21, 3:47pm  

anon_37bba says
Wait, weren't the Socialists here stating that those EVIL corporations will just give the additional profits to the CEOs and NOT let them trickle down the stairway to the employees??

Were they wrong? (again)


All 2 of them?
24   bob2356   @   2017 Dec 21, 4:05pm  

Sniper says
The chart below proves the statement wrong.

The good news is that there aren’t many who will pay higher taxes next year — about 8.5 million, compared to the some 143 million who will get lower taxes.

For the most popular bracket of what the Tax Policy Center calls expanded cash income level, the $50,000 to $75,000 range, will see an average tax change of $870.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/here-are-the-winners-and-losers-of-the-final-version-of-the-republican-tax-bill-2017-12-18


anon_8d9b9 says


I'm very curious how Market Watch came up with these numbers. I went directly to Tax Policy Center and looked at the report. Here is what I found at the bottom of the distribution chart.

We do not show distributional results for 2018 because the combination of a broader corporate base in 2018 and no corporate rate cut until 2019 makes 2018 law unrepresentative of the effects of the proposal’s corporate tax changes on taxpayer.

So how did Market Watch come up with 2018 numbers from Tax Policy Center which didn't publish 2018 numbers? Something is very odd about this chart everyone is salivating over. No definition of what expanding cash income level means either I notice. Anyone want to explain how this all works?
25   Strategist   @   2017 Dec 21, 6:22pm  

bob2356 says
anon_37bba says
Wait, weren't the Socialists here stating that those EVIL corporations will just give the additional profits to the CEOs and NOT let them trickle down the stairway to the employees??

Were they wrong? (again)


All 2 of them?


No socialist thinks "trickle down" is a fact. Every one of them felt only the rich would benefit. Including you.
26   MisdemeanorRebel   @   2017 Dec 21, 6:42pm  

Bette Midler hates Trump Asskissers, and the fact her taxes went up 3%.



Wait, I thought the rich were getting big tax cuts and the middle and working classes nothing?
27   MrMagic   @   2017 Dec 21, 7:53pm  

bob2356 says
So how did Market Watch come up with 2018 numbers from Tax Policy Center which didn't publish 2018 numbers?


They didn't??

Funny how I easily found the report when reading the article linked in the post.

Reading, try it sometime. It's amazing the things that can be learned!
28   Strategist   @   2017 Dec 21, 8:18pm  

Sniper says
Funny how I easily found the report when reading the article linked in the post.

Reading, try it sometime. It's amazing the things that can be learned!


Can you not give him ideas? I like him just the way he is, full of nonsense and fun to kick around.
29   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   @   2017 Dec 22, 4:25am  

bob2356 says
Something is very odd about this chart everyone is salivating over.

One thing that is odd is that each set of bars should add to 100%, since everyone is getting a cut or a raise. Very few pay zero with no credits - a no change.
Also it is not showing the size of the cuts. It only shows what percentage is getting something, and what percentage is getting screwed.
30   Shaman   @   2017 Dec 22, 5:55am  

TwoScoopsMcGee says

Wait, I thought the rich were getting big tax cuts and the middle and working classes nothing?


Whoops! Big Hollyweird star shoots her own argument in the face!
31   anonymous   2017 Dec 22, 10:51am  

FNWGMOBDVZXDNW says
Also it is not showing the size of the cuts. It only shows what percentage is getting something, and what percentage is getting screwed.


How can it show the size of the cuts? That will vary.

Everyone's income, deductions, etc. and personal situation is different.
32   MrMagic   @   2017 Dec 22, 10:46am  

HappyGilmore says
It is a FACT that the vast majority of the gains go to the wealthy.


Maybe that's because they pay the bulk of the taxes NOW.

Should we give more tax gains to the 47% that pay ZERO federal tax now?
33   anonymous   2017 Dec 22, 5:32pm  

Strategist says
>No socialist thinks "trickle down" is a fact. Every one of them felt only the rich would benefit. Including you.>

Yeah, nobody even believed that shit in 1929, y'all are dumb enough to stand for it now though.

And when Republicans caused the depression they got locked out from holding office for decades.

Coming soon again.

All of it!

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