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"Explosive", "Shocking" And "Alarming" FISA Memo Set To Rock DC, "End Mueller Investigation"
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anonymous
2018 Jan 26, 7:05pm
Patrick says
Can you please explain the personal attacks? I'm having a hard time understanding how my posts were deleted but others weren't.
gracias.
deleted a few personal attacks
will continue to delete them on sight
please write p@patrick.net or use the "personal" link (if you have it) to report personal attacks
merci
Can you please explain the personal attacks? I'm having a hard time understanding how my posts were deleted but others weren't.
gracias.
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Patrick
2018 Jan 26, 7:06pm
Patrick
2018 Jan 26, 7:06pm
Sure, using "trumpcuck" or "libtard" to refer to another user is a personal attack.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 27, 9:17am
This is now day 8 of this post dominating Patnet. The memo - if it is ever released will be neither "explosive" nor "alarming" nor "shocking". It will not "rock" Washington in the slightest.
You are wasting your lives here folks listening to questionably sourced BS. It's time to move on.
You are wasting your lives here folks listening to questionably sourced BS. It's time to move on.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 27, 7:29pm
anon_0578a says
So are you trying to tell us MULTIPLE (as in dozens) congressman have lied AFTER reading the memo, and it's really only a Chinese menu without any incriminating details?
Who are your sources (and don't say WaPo)?
anon_0578a says
You mean the one written by the House Intelligence Committee chairman? I'm sure he just made the "questionable information" up, right?
The memo - if it is ever released will be neither "explosive" nor "alarming" nor "shocking". It will not "rock" Washington in the slightest.
You are wasting your lives here folks listening to questionably sourced BS.
So are you trying to tell us MULTIPLE (as in dozens) congressman have lied AFTER reading the memo, and it's really only a Chinese menu without any incriminating details?
Who are your sources (and don't say WaPo)?
anon_0578a says
You are wasting your lives here folks listening to questionably sourced BS.
You mean the one written by the House Intelligence Committee chairman? I'm sure he just made the "questionable information" up, right?
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anonymous
2018 Jan 27, 7:38pm
anon_433ba says
Well, he does have a history--remember his secret evidence of Obama wiretapping Trump.
You mean the one written by the House Intelligence Committee chairman? I'm sure he just made the "questionable information" up, right?
Well, he does have a history--remember his secret evidence of Obama wiretapping Trump.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 28, 7:53am
"You mean the one written by the House Intelligence Committee chairman? I'm sure he just made the "questionable information" up, right?"
No I mean questionable as in ZH & company telling us this is gonna be SHOCKING or EXPLOSIVE!!!
The 2009 mortgage meltdown was EXPLOSIVE. The 1998 revelation of a semen stained blue dress was SHOCKING. Other than these, what else has truly moved the needle more than a little wiggle to qualify as "rocking Washington?"
It's now day 9 since we were told this wasn't gonna be typical insider Washington BS but something "shocking" and "explosive".
No I mean questionable as in ZH & company telling us this is gonna be SHOCKING or EXPLOSIVE!!!
The 2009 mortgage meltdown was EXPLOSIVE. The 1998 revelation of a semen stained blue dress was SHOCKING. Other than these, what else has truly moved the needle more than a little wiggle to qualify as "rocking Washington?"
It's now day 9 since we were told this wasn't gonna be typical insider Washington BS but something "shocking" and "explosive".
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anonymous
2018 Jan 28, 2:37pm
Trump Ignores DOJ Warning, Notifies Sessions He Wants FISA Memo Released.
Trump "is inclined to have that released just because it will shed light... Apparently all the rumors are that it will shed light, it will help the investigators come to a conclusion."
President Trump broke with the Department of Justice last week by calling for the release of a four-page "FISA memo" purportedly summarizing widespread surveillance abuses by the FBI, DOJ and Obama Administration, reports the Washington Post.
So now the President is calling for the release of the four-page FISA memo, which will reportedly put an end to the Russia investigation while quite possibly setting the stage for the criminal prosecution of those involved in trying to frame Trump.
That said, the Washington Post article appears to be nothing more than an exercise in pearl clutching over Trump's demands for loyalty - as the paper notes that nothing the President has done is likely to lead to criminal charges.
"The president has been clear publicly and privately that he wants absolute transparency throughout this process," Gidley said in the statement. "Based on numerous news reports, top officials at the FBI have engaged in conduct that shows show bias against President Trump and bias for Hillary Clinton.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-27/trump-ignores-doj-warning-notifies-sessions-he-wants-fisa-memo-released
Trump "is inclined to have that released just because it will shed light... Apparently all the rumors are that it will shed light, it will help the investigators come to a conclusion."
President Trump broke with the Department of Justice last week by calling for the release of a four-page "FISA memo" purportedly summarizing widespread surveillance abuses by the FBI, DOJ and Obama Administration, reports the Washington Post.
So now the President is calling for the release of the four-page FISA memo, which will reportedly put an end to the Russia investigation while quite possibly setting the stage for the criminal prosecution of those involved in trying to frame Trump.
That said, the Washington Post article appears to be nothing more than an exercise in pearl clutching over Trump's demands for loyalty - as the paper notes that nothing the President has done is likely to lead to criminal charges.
"The president has been clear publicly and privately that he wants absolute transparency throughout this process," Gidley said in the statement. "Based on numerous news reports, top officials at the FBI have engaged in conduct that shows show bias against President Trump and bias for Hillary Clinton.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-27/trump-ignores-doj-warning-notifies-sessions-he-wants-fisa-memo-released
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anonymous
2018 Jan 28, 3:13pm
anon_a0be5 says
What does the number of days it hasn't been released have ANYTHING to do with the content of the memo?
Apples and Oranges.
It's now day 9 since we were told this wasn't gonna be typical insider Washington BS but something "shocking" and "explosive".
What does the number of days it hasn't been released have ANYTHING to do with the content of the memo?
Apples and Oranges.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 28, 3:21pm
anon_743c2 says
Because it shows that the memo isn't really that "explosive or else it would have been released already. It was just another ploy to whip Trump supporters into a frenzy.
Trump has to power to release it--why hasn't he done it?
What does the number of days it hasn't been released have ANYTHING to do with the content of the memo?
Because it shows that the memo isn't really that "explosive or else it would have been released already. It was just another ploy to whip Trump supporters into a frenzy.
Trump has to power to release it--why hasn't he done it?
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bob2356
2018 Jan 28, 5:55pm
Let's see how this works. There is an explosive memo that will put most of the top people in the democratic party in jail. But the republican controlled congress, which can release the memo at any time, has not released the memo but is screaming the memo needs to be released. Donald "put hillary in jail" trump, who can release the memo at any time, has zero filter between his brain and the outside world has not released the memo but is screaming the memo needs to be released. Yet after almost 2 weeks nothing has happened and the only place you can read about it is still right wing echo chambers conspiracy sites like ZH.
I know the average trumptard (luckily there are no trumptards on patnet) isn't a deep thinker, but a normal person would have to believe that something was just a little bit askew with the picture when everyone that can release the memo is screaming the memo needs to be released but doesn't release it. Even more amazing is some staffer hasn't leaked it. How is that even possible? It's not.
I know the average trumptard (luckily there are no trumptards on patnet) isn't a deep thinker, but a normal person would have to believe that something was just a little bit askew with the picture when everyone that can release the memo is screaming the memo needs to be released but doesn't release it. Even more amazing is some staffer hasn't leaked it. How is that even possible? It's not.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 28, 7:30pm
anon_3b28c says
Wait, wasn't it the Blue team that recently said it takes YEARS for a investigation to run it's course. Now you guys are all upset because a secret memo hasn't been released in 9 days?
anon_3b28c says
Come on Joey, is this the best argument that you can think of?
anon_370a8 says
Congress and the DOJ have to clear it first and make sure any classified info doesn't compromise the investigation.
anon_743c2 saysWhat does the number of days it hasn't been released have ANYTHING to do with the content of the memo?
Because it shows that the memo isn't really that "explosive or else it would have been released already.
Wait, wasn't it the Blue team that recently said it takes YEARS for a investigation to run it's course. Now you guys are all upset because a secret memo hasn't been released in 9 days?
anon_3b28c says
Trump has to power to release it--why hasn't he done it?
Come on Joey, is this the best argument that you can think of?
anon_370a8 says
President Trump broke with the Department of Justice last week by calling for the release of a four-page "FISA memo" purportedly summarizing widespread surveillance abuses by the FBI, DOJ and Obama Administration,
Congress and the DOJ have to clear it first and make sure any classified info doesn't compromise the investigation.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 28, 7:47pm
anon_b6d0d says
If it was an investigation, you'd have a point. It's just a memo.
anon_b6d0d says
Come on now, don't forget the rules...
anon_b6d0d says
No, they don't. The President can declassify anything he wants and release it immediately. The fact that he says he wants it released but doesn't do it is actually quite funny.
Wait, wasn't it the Blue team that recently said it takes YEARS for a investigation to run it's course. Now you guys are all upset because a secret memo hasn't been released in 9 days?
If it was an investigation, you'd have a point. It's just a memo.
anon_b6d0d says
anon_3b28c saysTrump has to power to release it--why hasn't he done it?
Come on Joey, is this the best argument that you can think of?
Come on now, don't forget the rules...
anon_b6d0d says
Congress and the DOJ have to clear it first and make sure any classified info doesn't compromise the investigation.
No, they don't. The President can declassify anything he wants and release it immediately. The fact that he says he wants it released but doesn't do it is actually quite funny.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 8:29am
anon_3b28c says
Especially on a golf course shit talking with a foreign emissary.
The President can declassify anything he wants and release it immediately.
Especially on a golf course shit talking with a foreign emissary.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 10:00am
FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, frequent target of Trump's ire, steps down: NBC News
FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe, a frequent target of public attacks from President Donald Trump, is stepping down effective Monday, NBC News reported.
Trump and some Republicans in Congress have accused McCabe of political bias, citing his role at the FBI during investigations related to both Hillary Clinton and President Donald Trump. They question his role in the Clinton email probe and the investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election and whether the Trump campaign coordinated with the Kremlin.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/29/fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-frequent-target-of-trumps-ire-steps-down-nbc-news.html
Why would he be stepping down, could there be something in that memo that just might.... oh, nevermind, it's "just" a memo.
FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe, a frequent target of public attacks from President Donald Trump, is stepping down effective Monday, NBC News reported.
Trump and some Republicans in Congress have accused McCabe of political bias, citing his role at the FBI during investigations related to both Hillary Clinton and President Donald Trump. They question his role in the Clinton email probe and the investigation into Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election and whether the Trump campaign coordinated with the Kremlin.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/29/fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-frequent-target-of-trumps-ire-steps-down-nbc-news.html
Why would he be stepping down, could there be something in that memo that just might.... oh, nevermind, it's "just" a memo.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 12:24pm
So many people in jobs surrounding Trump in the last year so have decided to throw in the towel, it looks like they’re saying “fuck this shit”
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 1:31pm
Maybe one of the Trump supporters can answer this:
If Trump wants the memo released, why doesn't he do so?
If Trump wants the memo released, why doesn't he do so?
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WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 3:06pm
WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 3:06pm
anon_8f378 says
Honest question, is he allowed to? Thought I heard some committee has to approve its release before he even has a say in it.
If Trump wants the memo released, why doesn't he do so?
Honest question, is he allowed to? Thought I heard some committee has to approve its release before he even has a say in it.
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Y
2018 Jan 29, 3:09pm
Y
2018 Jan 29, 3:09pm
A response that should be expected from the embedded DC Elite.
The swamp is draining faster than expected.
anon_7905a says
The swamp is draining faster than expected.
anon_7905a says
So many people in jobs surrounding Trump in the last year so have decided to throw in the towel, it looks like they’re saying “fuck this shit”
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Y
2018 Jan 29, 3:11pm
Y
2018 Jan 29, 3:11pm
Thats because the "blue team" is not a team anymore.
There's rats running every which way.....see 164 above
anon_3b28c says
There's rats running every which way.....see 164 above
anon_3b28c says
anon_b6d0d saysWait, wasn't it the Blue team that recently said it takes YEARS for a investigation to run it's course. Now you guys are all upset because a secret memo hasn't been released in 9 days?
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 3:46pm
WookieMan says
The President can declassify it.
Honest question, is he allowed to? Thought I heard some committee has to approve its release before he even has a say in it.
The President can declassify it.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 3:46pm
anon_3b28c says
Wrong again.
anon_8f378 says
Because it's NOT an Executive branch memo, so he can't release it. Here's some education for a few of you:
trump can't actually force the release.
Not his report TO release/declassify.
We have discussed the process numerous times. The Committee has the authority to release it PENDING POTU and Nat Security Council and other agencies approval (Protecting personnel undercover and operations ongoing as well).
Exec Branch has 5 days to approve or reject release (or indicate portions which might be dangerous to personnel if released).
After 5 days, the whole House can vote to force release.
Should the Committee vote to NOT release it gets complicated, but POTUS simply CAN NOT just declassify and release it because he has NO AUTHORITY to do so since it isn't an EXEC Branch document.
Is that clear enough?
The President can declassify anything he wants and release it immediately. The fact that he says he wants it released but doesn't do it is actually quite funny.
Wrong again.
anon_8f378 says
If Trump wants the memo released, why doesn't he do so?
Because it's NOT an Executive branch memo, so he can't release it. Here's some education for a few of you:
trump can't actually force the release.
Not his report TO release/declassify.
We have discussed the process numerous times. The Committee has the authority to release it PENDING POTU and Nat Security Council and other agencies approval (Protecting personnel undercover and operations ongoing as well).
Exec Branch has 5 days to approve or reject release (or indicate portions which might be dangerous to personnel if released).
After 5 days, the whole House can vote to force release.
Should the Committee vote to NOT release it gets complicated, but POTUS simply CAN NOT just declassify and release it because he has NO AUTHORITY to do so since it isn't an EXEC Branch document.
Is that clear enough?
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 3:46pm
anon_7905a says
More like the rats are jumping ship:
So many people in jobs surrounding Trump in the last year so have decided to throw in the towel, it looks like they’re saying “fuck this shit”
More like the rats are jumping ship:
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 3:46pm
anon_b5a29 says
Doesn't sound like a voluntary "step down".
Update: According to Fox News and CBS News's Pat Milton just answered the question of why McCabe stepped down Monday when he would become eligible for his full pension benefits n March: McCabe was reportedly forced to step down. According to Fox News, McCabe was "removed" from his post as deputy director, "leaving the bureau after months of conflict-of-interest complaints from Republicans including President Trump."
In both cases, his early departure suggests that he was forced out.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/fbi-deputy-director-mccabe-has-stepped-down-effective-today
FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, frequent target of Trump's ire, steps down:
Doesn't sound like a voluntary "step down".
Update: According to Fox News and CBS News's Pat Milton just answered the question of why McCabe stepped down Monday when he would become eligible for his full pension benefits n March: McCabe was reportedly forced to step down. According to Fox News, McCabe was "removed" from his post as deputy director, "leaving the bureau after months of conflict-of-interest complaints from Republicans including President Trump."
In both cases, his early departure suggests that he was forced out.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-29/fbi-deputy-director-mccabe-has-stepped-down-effective-today
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 5:06pm
House Intel votes to release controversial surveillance memo to the public.
The House Intelligence Committee on Monday evening voted to release a classified memo circulating in Congress that purportedly reveals government surveillance abuses.
The vote was announced to reporters by California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the committee, who called it a “very sad day, I think, in the history of this committee.”
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President Trump now has five days to decide whether he has any objections before the memo can be publicly released.
Last week, a top Justice Department official urged House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes not to release the memo, saying it would be “extraordinarily reckless” and could harm national security and ongoing investigations.
The four-page memo is being described by GOP lawmakers as “shocking,” “troubling” and “alarming,” with one congressman likening the details to KGB activity in Russia.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/29/house-intel-votes-to-release-controversial-surveillance-memo-to-public.html
The House Intelligence Committee on Monday evening voted to release a classified memo circulating in Congress that purportedly reveals government surveillance abuses.
The vote was announced to reporters by California Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the committee, who called it a “very sad day, I think, in the history of this committee.”
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President Trump now has five days to decide whether he has any objections before the memo can be publicly released.
Last week, a top Justice Department official urged House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes not to release the memo, saying it would be “extraordinarily reckless” and could harm national security and ongoing investigations.
The four-page memo is being described by GOP lawmakers as “shocking,” “troubling” and “alarming,” with one congressman likening the details to KGB activity in Russia.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/29/house-intel-votes-to-release-controversial-surveillance-memo-to-public.html
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 5:07pm
anon_034aa says
Except he can simply declassify it and make the rest of that moot.
Is that clear enough?
Except he can simply declassify it and make the rest of that moot.
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WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 5:08pm
WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 5:08pm
anon_8f378 says
I see another anon responded along with your response. No one linked any info at all. I'm too lazy to look it up. Can Trump declassify this or not? Link from a .gov site or something close to resembling credible would be appreciated.
Until I see something credible, I'm under the impression you guys are bots and just doing the good will of your respective parties. We'll see which one of you earns your keep with the response to this. I have those highly desirable "political bucks" that partisan bots desire and am willing to part ways with said "political bucks" if you convince me.
WookieMan saysHonest question, is he allowed to? Thought I heard some committee has to approve its release before he even has a say in it.
The President can declassify it.
I see another anon responded along with your response. No one linked any info at all. I'm too lazy to look it up. Can Trump declassify this or not? Link from a .gov site or something close to resembling credible would be appreciated.
Until I see something credible, I'm under the impression you guys are bots and just doing the good will of your respective parties. We'll see which one of you earns your keep with the response to this. I have those highly desirable "political bucks" that partisan bots desire and am willing to part ways with said "political bucks" if you convince me.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 6:29pm
anon_3b28c says
Which part of:
anon_034aa says
is difficult to understand?
WookieMan says
No, it belongs to congress, as mentioned above.
anon_034aa saysIs that clear enough?
Except he can simply declassify it and make the rest of that moot.
Which part of:
anon_034aa says
but POTUS simply CAN NOT just declassify and release it because he has NO AUTHORITY to do so since it isn't an EXEC Branch document.
is difficult to understand?
WookieMan says
Can Trump declassify this or not?
No, it belongs to congress, as mentioned above.
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WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 6:34pm
WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 6:34pm
anon_34fca says
I don't have a team I root for in this game. Mentioning a previous comment versus giving evidence via a link are two different things. If you don't want to link anything, that's fine. I didn't either as I mentioned I'm lazy, so not trying to be a hypocrite here.
I just heard it on the radio or something that the house intelligence committee or something along those lines has to approve its declassification. No one has confirmed this or refuted it with actual evidence. So I'm not sure what to believe at this point.
WookieMan saysCan Trump declassify this or not?
No, it belongs to congress, as mentioned above.
I don't have a team I root for in this game. Mentioning a previous comment versus giving evidence via a link are two different things. If you don't want to link anything, that's fine. I didn't either as I mentioned I'm lazy, so not trying to be a hypocrite here.
I just heard it on the radio or something that the house intelligence committee or something along those lines has to approve its declassification. No one has confirmed this or refuted it with actual evidence. So I'm not sure what to believe at this point.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 6:47pm
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/may/16/james-risch/does-president-have-ability-declassify-anything-an/
"One of the members of Congress who commented after the newspaper’s revelations was Sen. James Risch, R-Idaho. According to CNN, he told reporters, "The minute the president speaks about it to someone, he has the ability to declassify anything at any time without any process."
Is that accurate? Independent experts said Risch is on target concerning the legal powers of the president. Some experts added, however, that the senator’s formulation left out some context that is relevant for assessing Trump’s alleged actions."
"Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."
"One of the members of Congress who commented after the newspaper’s revelations was Sen. James Risch, R-Idaho. According to CNN, he told reporters, "The minute the president speaks about it to someone, he has the ability to declassify anything at any time without any process."
Is that accurate? Independent experts said Risch is on target concerning the legal powers of the president. Some experts added, however, that the senator’s formulation left out some context that is relevant for assessing Trump’s alleged actions."
"Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy, said that such authority gives the president the authority to "classify and declassify at will."
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 6:47pm
anon_34fca says
It's not difficult to understand, it's simply incorrect.
anon_034aa saysbut POTUS simply CAN NOT just declassify and release it because he has NO AUTHORITY to do so since it isn't an EXEC Branch document.
is difficult to understand?
It's not difficult to understand, it's simply incorrect.
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WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 6:59pm
WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 6:59pm
anon_3b28c says
Cool, thanks for the link.
Sounds like if he has read the memo he can talk about it. Trump that is. Technically though, members of Congress that have read the memo still can't talk about it until it's officially declassified if I'm to take the words literally. I don't think Trump just talking about it or even reading the memo verbatim would technically declassify it. I could be wrong, but that's my interpretation.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/may/16/james-risch/does-president-have-ability-declassify-anything-an/
Cool, thanks for the link.
Sounds like if he has read the memo he can talk about it. Trump that is. Technically though, members of Congress that have read the memo still can't talk about it until it's officially declassified if I'm to take the words literally. I don't think Trump just talking about it or even reading the memo verbatim would technically declassify it. I could be wrong, but that's my interpretation.
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 8:03pm
WookieMan says
That's probably true. What's funny is Trump saying he wants the memo released, but not doing it.
Technically though, members of Congress that have read the memo still can't talk about it until it's officially declassified if I'm to take the words literally. I don't think Trump just talking about it or even reading the memo verbatim would technically declassify it. I could be wrong, but that's my interpretation.
That's probably true. What's funny is Trump saying he wants the memo released, but not doing it.
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WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 8:12pm
WookieMan
2018 Jan 29, 8:12pm
anon_3b28c says
We shall see. I hate them all. Trump was the non-politician. Guess what, he's now a politician. Again, I hate them all. The power corrupts.
If the economy does great under him, awesome. I'm not linking anything of significance to politicians on the national level for the most part. My local school board has more impact on my finances here in IL compared to any national politician. So I tend to put them under the microscope first. Or should I say magnifying glass on a nice sun soaked afternoon ;)
What's funny is Trump saying he wants the memo released, but not doing it.
We shall see. I hate them all. Trump was the non-politician. Guess what, he's now a politician. Again, I hate them all. The power corrupts.
If the economy does great under him, awesome. I'm not linking anything of significance to politicians on the national level for the most part. My local school board has more impact on my finances here in IL compared to any national politician. So I tend to put them under the microscope first. Or should I say magnifying glass on a nice sun soaked afternoon ;)
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anonymous
2018 Jan 29, 8:34pm
anon_3b28c says
He just received the memo tonight from congress, after they voted to have it released earlier.
Any chance he's "draining the swamp", and waiting to release it, while the plug is being pulled, like it was for McCabe today?
Who else is inline to be "drained" in that memo?
WookieMan saysTechnically though, members of Congress that have read the memo still can't talk about it until it's officially declassified if I'm to take the words literally. I don't think Trump just talking about it or even reading the memo verbatim would technically declassify it. I could be wrong, but that's my interpretation.
That's probably true. What's funny is Trump saying he wants the memo released, but not doing it.
He just received the memo tonight from congress, after they voted to have it released earlier.
Any chance he's "draining the swamp", and waiting to release it, while the plug is being pulled, like it was for McCabe today?
Who else is inline to be "drained" in that memo?
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anonymous
2018 Jan 30, 8:39am
anon_034aa says
Did you make this up or is there some type of source? Where in the federal register did it come from exactly?
Because it's NOT an Executive branch memo, so he can't release it. Here's some education for a few of you:
trump can't actually force the release.
Not his report TO release/declassify.
We have discussed the process numerous times. The Committee has the authority to release it PENDING POTU and Nat Security Council and other agencies approval (Protecting personnel undercover and operations ongoing as well).
Exec Branch has 5 days to approve or reject release (or indicate portions which might be dangerous to personnel if released).
After 5 days, the whole House can vote to force release.
Should the Committee vote to NOT release it gets complicated, but POTUS simply CAN NOT just declassify and release it because he has NO AUTHORITY to do so since it isn't an EXEC Branch document.
Is that clear enough?
Did you make this up or is there some type of source? Where in the federal register did it come from exactly?
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Lawmakers who have seen the memo are calling for its immediate release, while the phrases "explosive," "shocking," "troubling," and "alarming" have all been used in all sincerity. One congressman even likened the report's details to KGB activity in Russia. “It is so alarming the American people have to see this,” Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan told Fox News.
“It's troubling. It is shocking,” North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows said. “Part of me wishes that I didn't read it because I don’t want to believe that those kinds of things could be happening in this country that I call home and love so much.”
“I believe the consequence of its release will be major changes in people currently working at the FBI and the Department of Justice,” he said, referencing DOJ officials Rod Rosenstein and Bruce Ohr.
Meanwhile, Rep. Matt Gatetz (R-FL) said not only will the release of this memo result in DOJ firing, but "people will go to jail."
Of all the recent developments in the ongoing investigation(s), this one is on the cusp of turning into a genuine happening.
Who's going to be in the cross hairs?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-18/explosive-shocking-and-alarming-fisa-memo-set-rock-dc-end-mueller-investigation